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Leveling with Frontline PvP in FFXIV

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Jolsn

Jolsn

Күн бұрын

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@ygnizemcenia6059
@ygnizemcenia6059 2 жыл бұрын
Additional tip for frontlines is open your map and shrink it in a good spot on your screen then zoom out that you can see the whole map of the frontline and lastly click the "lock" icon so it doesnt close even if you hit ESC. This will give you real time map awareness for objectives, allies and enemy positions.
@gilgammesh1
@gilgammesh1 2 жыл бұрын
Theres a lock icon?!
@fartimusmaximus8710
@fartimusmaximus8710 2 жыл бұрын
Stop telling people our secrets. I want to be the frontline god battle high 5 alone
@Umega101
@Umega101 2 жыл бұрын
This. Awareness is the best ability you can have in FFXIV PvP. If I had to choose between a greeny knowing his PvP rotation and how to 'alpha kill' targets vs one that has Awareness and puts themselves routinely in proper positions ... I'd choose the latter. Getting KBs doesn't mean much if you are consistently out of position and not effecting the flow of the battle. And to you "Battle High" chasers ... if you're as good as you think you are, you'll get BH easily by being in contested locations routinely rather than chasing non-objectives in pursuit of BH. Stop doing the latter and hurting your team for your own pointless numbers that no one else cares about.
@persies4397
@persies4397 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago I was really into pvp in wow, and honestly pvp in FFXIV is not nearly as bad as people said before I started playing. It's super casual and just fun. Plus the pvp gear looks amazing!
@ChaoZzBladex
@ChaoZzBladex 2 жыл бұрын
the pvp in xiv is something wich is fun to do on the side but i think having a focus on it like you could do in wow would just end in suffering xd thats why i dont try to focus to much on it and just do it on the side :D
@amiablereaper
@amiablereaper 2 жыл бұрын
And now it's actually really fun!
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz 2 жыл бұрын
I still feel like the thing that really has held back Frontlines from being more popular is the tab targetting / controller targetting systems in FFXIV. It can be so hard to properly target what you want when you want. Even trying to manually click target can be unreliable. Other than that, I feel like the PvP is super fun for most Jobs.
@Copain88
@Copain88 2 жыл бұрын
The only time targeting is an issue is when you're fighting with like all factions in one spot and so you've got like 30 people to sort through. But those situations are pretty rare, and you typically can just aoe the crowd
@Metadaxe
@Metadaxe 2 жыл бұрын
Playing a healer on PS4 is the only time I've felt like using a controller is holding me back significantly. There are times where I wish I could have a mouseover macro or whatever, but it's usually fine doing any job, any content, on controller. Healing frontlines feels absolutely scuffed. To target people in my alliance from other parties, I need to untarget everything, sheathe my weapon, then madly mash left/right on the dpad. Anybody who needs healing will die before they get it.
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Metadaxe Sage is the first time I've been able to really play Healer on controller. I have Macros for Targeting and for my main shields, etc. But it's only because those are effectively instant cast that I feel comfortable. I played Scholar to 80, but it became a nightmare to manage the stupid faerie and have to deal with Aetherflow stacks and targetting everything, etc. I'm sure White Mage would be playable too, but I haven't tried it. Just Astro til about 40 when I gave up and Scholar to 80 so I could do the Role Quests in Shadowbringers.
@EdwardPaulet
@EdwardPaulet 2 жыл бұрын
@@Metadaxe while I agree that this is the only scenario where I've had issues as a controller player, for alliance targeting you can do L1 + Left/Right. The problem is that PVP is more fast paced and unpredictable that PVE content so having to tab up to 8 times to target someone in the alliance means they're probably already dead before the heal goes out.
@pandamonium9255
@pandamonium9255 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Its been a thing ive just gotten used to.
@thighknives
@thighknives 2 жыл бұрын
one tip that either wasn't covered or I just didn't hear is that if you get hit by an enemy player while on a mount you get a really nasty slow debuff that leaves you super vulnerable to attack
@Beamin439
@Beamin439 2 жыл бұрын
i had no idea about this. i always avoided people on mounts because i thought id never catch them.
@HayTatsuko
@HayTatsuko 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that. I had no idea that being on a mount did that -- thought it was just enemy players with native slow debuffs hitting me!
@cosmosofinfinity
@cosmosofinfinity 2 жыл бұрын
It used to be like that even in the PvE open world!
@Boxes2142
@Boxes2142 2 жыл бұрын
Been really enjoying Frontlines myself recently. A lot more fun than the other roulettes where you'll keep getting the same dungeons over and over. Really recommend it to people who find themselves falling asleep at the wheel with the other roulettes :P
@andr0zzsenpai
@andr0zzsenpai 2 жыл бұрын
I swear people doesn't know there is like a million optional dungeons you can unlock, one always gets the same story dungeons lol
@davidcasey1119
@davidcasey1119 2 жыл бұрын
Really underrated levelling tool this, many in my FC never bothered with it until I encouraged them to give it a go, now it's on their daily rotation. If one team roflstomps then it's super fast exp and if it's more even game it's more fun so either way you win.
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my experience with it too
@NeguraGhost
@NeguraGhost 2 жыл бұрын
I started adding PvP frontline to my daily roulettes a while ago, because I wanted to farm a PvP glam and it was pretty fun AND you get really good exp and losing doesn't matter that much. More people should do it.
@つロつ
@つロつ 2 жыл бұрын
Frontlines is such a love/hate mode for me. When I'm winning, it's like, oh cool. But when I'm losing, man do I REALLY FEEL IT.
@camma12
@camma12 2 жыл бұрын
Well fuck me, I had no idea you could change jobs in a frontline, this changes everything for me
@바보Queen
@바보Queen 2 жыл бұрын
holy hell i didn't know that either
@Joeyfield0
@Joeyfield0 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't actually remember playing frontline pvp, once the duty started rolling I would blackout as the spirit of violence possessed my mortal body once again."
@johnmeyer5474
@johnmeyer5474 2 жыл бұрын
Frontline is also an ok source of Poetics. As a casual player, i use my daily PVP to get all my non-main jobs to level up slowly. its a great way to break the 60, 70, 80, levels to get to 61, 71, 81 so you can then also run Trust Dungeons. The daily PVP gives half a level. Great for when you're not in a rush, but want a good chunk of EXP. You dont even have to setup your hot bars. Go in, then switch to your main. The slow surplus of Poetics can then also be used to buy the max leveling gear sets for each expansion range. if you're planning a slow, get everything to 90, this is a great addition to the various options to get you there. good guide.
@nadoProducer
@nadoProducer 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool but two core mechanics you missed in this introduction for new frontliners: 1. Please please please put Medical Kit on your hotbar 2. Taking any attacks while mounted will inflict Limp (a huge slow debuff) on you, and that Limp will continue refreshing if you continue getting hit while mounted. And as a small note, the home base in Shatter is nearly worthless--it's 1 point every 3 seconds. Definitely not worth sacrificing your life to try back-capping or even reclaiming a base node. All that aside, thank you for introducing your audience to my favorite mode! I hope you continue to enjoy your time in FL rou and I look forward to seeing you all grow into bloodthirsty PvP'ers
@RussellJTh
@RussellJTh 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, thank you! I've been doing frontlines daily for a while now thanks to that juicy chunk of exp, it's nice to have the actual objectives clarified. I'm curious - do you know what the exp is like if you queue again after already having received the one-time bonus?
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried it, but I reckon if you're mostly out for XP then other methods are way better at that point
@RussellJTh
@RussellJTh 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jolsn Fair enough, I figured as much. Appreciate the video, super informative!
@mitsudafanni7978
@mitsudafanni7978 2 жыл бұрын
The worst thing about Frontlines is that it only gives good XP once per day. Getting first place in subsequent games only gives about 10-12% of a level. I find it so fun, and would rather farm FL when I'm out of Roulettes, but it's just too inefficient that I feel like I'm wasting my time.
@bad3ip2k10
@bad3ip2k10 2 жыл бұрын
It is the most inefficient way to level after the first roulette bonus. You're even better off farming fates instead of FL. Do pvp only once a day unless you're a hardcore pvp player
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the only consideration after the first is what you queue times are for the other Roulettes. Frontlines will almost always be the shortest wait time for DPS. But other things like FATEs or even Squadron / Trust and such are faster when you look beyond just Roulettes.
@RunRunRun1901
@RunRunRun1901 2 жыл бұрын
@@bad3ip2k10 it’s not inefficient near level 30
@jellydamgood
@jellydamgood 2 жыл бұрын
@@bad3ip2k10 or you want the mount.
@FGTutorials
@FGTutorials Жыл бұрын
Loving your guides, best I've found if I'm honest. How would you feel about doing a 1-90 fastest possible job leveling guide? (excluding MSQ of course)
@Jolsn
@Jolsn Жыл бұрын
I will add that to the list, maybe I can come up with something. Thanks for the suggestion!
@Borisslavs
@Borisslavs 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought of giving FL a try, but your video has convinced me. Good job!
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
Have fun!
@LucasBernardesRosa
@LucasBernardesRosa 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like you said this but it's important to highlight. The experience you get from Frontlines goes into the class that you ENTERED, not the class you play as. So if you don't feel like learning the new MNK shenanigan or their outdated nonsense in Frontlines, just queue up as MNK and immediately switch to a job you like playing like NIN or WHM... You can then play the entire Frontline as that class and level up your MNK without throwing a punch.
@keiyangoshin3650
@keiyangoshin3650 11 ай бұрын
If you told me one day I’d be having fun leveling my jobs through PvP, I would have laughed in your face. 😂 FFXIV changed my opinion of PvP because of how they made it work. Honestly an easy, none boring way to level up! 😁 Try it, see for yourself!
@vincentbeton
@vincentbeton 2 жыл бұрын
Was wondering what you meant by "Frontline" Roulette but then I remembered, that is what normal people call it. For me it's "20 Minutes of Shame and amazing Exp". I hope I'll eventually understand how PvP works in this game.
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz 2 жыл бұрын
It's really worth it to teleport to the Wolf's Den Pier place and just screw around on the training dummies there. I was leveling Bard recently and the way it plays in PvP is so different than PvE it took just going there and really rereading all my tooltips and practicing on the training dummy for about 15 minutes. But after that I got my first 100 point battle high in the very next game.
@Experiment.626
@Experiment.626 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the tips!!!!!! I’m a newb vet and never even tried pvp gonna give it a go now for leveling jobs looks like fun!
@blue40473
@blue40473 2 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful! Thanks for the vid.
@nash0089
@nash0089 2 жыл бұрын
I've been hitting frontlines hard because of the renewed interest. Gotta love
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
If they fix some of the connection issues in Frontlines that causes it to be whack sometimes it could be even better
@ninjakitty445
@ninjakitty445 2 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a rival wings roulette, I love that game mode
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping that the new PvP mode they announced will make it into the duty roulettes
@jellydamgood
@jellydamgood 2 жыл бұрын
Piloting brute justice to wipe parties or oppressors to snipe uppity punks activates all the neurons in my brain.
@surfx4804
@surfx4804 2 жыл бұрын
It is mostly random fun, where winning is random. Occasionally you get in a team that has half an idea what to do and win.
@Psoewish
@Psoewish 2 жыл бұрын
frontlines are just so slept on, rewards aside it's just straight up fun and I'll often spam frontlines just for the hell of it.
@thanh-habui4199
@thanh-habui4199 2 жыл бұрын
PVP Frontline is so fun. Best fun I have had on FFXV in a while! I wish I didn't listen to anti-PVP players and gave this a go a lot early. Most of the time these players had never given it a full go or worst, they never even tried it lol. I recommend it if you haven't tried it, it really tests your team work and skills on the battlefield. Ps: Please make more PVP battlefield contents! Love the fight scenes!
@BryanakaDwish
@BryanakaDwish 2 жыл бұрын
It upsets me whenever i hear people say pvp is not good in FF14. Frontlines and Rival wings is some of the most fun i have when playing and feast can get really competitive at times. I also feel like a lot of the pvp players are always willing to help and give advice. Really makes the whole experience fun.
@erdann4282
@erdann4282 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea you can switch jobs inside. That's awesome!
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! Any time in the main area. Some of the maps you can end up basically in the middle of nowhere after the objectives change. You can use the Return action like you'd normally use to head back to your home Aetheryte, or the beginning of Haukke Manor, to head back and change if you need.
@KatyaKit216
@KatyaKit216 10 ай бұрын
Did they stop leveling at 80 in pvp? I could have sworn I've leveled my dps past 80 through pvp as well.
@Adj4ni
@Adj4ni 20 күн бұрын
I love frontline but i'm wondering, for xp and reward purposes, is it worth it to do it more than once per day?
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 20 күн бұрын
If you want to level with PvP outside of roulettes, Crystalline Conflict spam may be better if the queues are short
@Izlude123456
@Izlude123456 2 ай бұрын
Late but how much do winning compared to losing change experienced earned in daily roulette
@HQQez
@HQQez Жыл бұрын
So, can you just spam this roulette frontlines non stop with bonus experience? New player, sorry if I missed that in the video
@robbybobbijoe
@robbybobbijoe Ай бұрын
i went into frontlines just now, ALL my abilities were gone and i cannot attack anyone. great mode :) real fun
@kggditb
@kggditb 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 100% loss rate, and im usually top 10 on my Alliance with points, dmg etc. Man i have been unlucky with this.
@notlimish8166
@notlimish8166 2 жыл бұрын
Frontline needs more love!
@FakeMaker
@FakeMaker 2 жыл бұрын
I regret that I haven't tried PvP in FFXIV sooner. Everyone was like "it's terrible, unbalanced, not fun, don't try it bla bla bla", and I was a dumbass for listening to them. Tried frontline today for the first time with an alt job, and it's so much more casual and approachable than WoW PvP for example, at least for me, since I'm no PvPer. Took me some time to get comfortable with the abilities, but that's understandable. Anyway, thanks for the vid!
@cattysplat
@cattysplat Жыл бұрын
The real problem is having to relearn your entire class and hotbars for PvP, almost all skills are different and some unique skills. Lots of combos replacing cooldowns. If you just play a few classes it's not a problem but learning every job is a ton of extra skills and some play completely different from their PvE style.
@glendreesen4934
@glendreesen4934 2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to have a normal party composition. Have had a all tank alliance party (1/3 were tanks). Seen 1/3-1/2 healer team and alliance where there was only 2 healers and won with all these part compositions. Most important thing is stay with the pack, don't over extend, and play the objective.
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's why Shatter is my least favorite. So much harder to keep everyone together.
@nati6260
@nati6260 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! What's the music in the background?
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's Sic Hvnt Leones from the new raid
@nati6260
@nati6260 2 жыл бұрын
@Jolsn FFXIV thank you
@nefariouspersephone9447
@nefariouspersephone9447 2 жыл бұрын
plus the pvp glam is actually pretty cool
@cosmosofinfinity
@cosmosofinfinity 2 жыл бұрын
PvP is severely underrated in FFXIV in general, it's got jank but it's some of the only content in the game that is unscripted and unpredictable and if you play smart and guard your life as if it is your only one instead of jumping into danger over and over, it's really satisfying when you achieve victory because it is a well earned and hard fought victory. It also really simulates well a feeling of large scale war army strategy decision-making too, a lot to learn about hard decisions and priority-making and making the best out of bad situations, plenty of times I have seen unlucky last place teams come through as #1 in the end
@yoshiiscool2002
@yoshiiscool2002 2 жыл бұрын
One tip for new players: READ THE WIN CONDITIONS OF EACH GAME. I think thats actually what was stopping me for enjoying game because i just jumped in there not knowing what the hell im doing.
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz 2 жыл бұрын
Shatter still my least favorite by far. I don't know if it's the nature of the objectives or just the layout of the map, but it is way too easy for even a slightly uncoordinated team to get super spread out. If you're trying to heal, it's a nightmare.
@Xylus.
@Xylus. 6 ай бұрын
Frontline is super fun imo, and very casual. There's 24 people on your team, so even if you're bad, no one will notice (unless you're toxic in chat and bad lol). Even if I lose, if I feel like I made good plays and got some good KOs then I'm having fun.
@GorillaSki99
@GorillaSki99 27 күн бұрын
Maybe I missed it but, after unlocking frontline..can I join as lvl 1?
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 26 күн бұрын
You need to unlock PvP through your Grand Company quests.
@Sai-sr6eh
@Sai-sr6eh 2 жыл бұрын
Please remember while playing frontlines is your lose points if you die. So try not to wonder off on your own. Keep map open. Get battle high
@bizzothagreat
@bizzothagreat 2 жыл бұрын
Is it gear sets just for pvp? And how do I get them?
@jaknafein
@jaknafein 2 жыл бұрын
is this actually a viable levelling option? I don't know anybody who does this. Would this be something you do after the potd push from 30-60? How does this compare to bozja/zadnor?
@HikariVictor
@HikariVictor Жыл бұрын
I leveled like 10 classes just playing PVP going for another 3 until 60 in 2 months and a half (I'm new actually), is pretty PRETTY viable to level up super fast and is like two different games. BLM is actually super fun to level at PVP
@sakuramoon3259
@sakuramoon3259 2 жыл бұрын
appreciate the information. the only reason i don't play frontlines is because, to be frank, I really dislike the PVP in this game. Too much healing, it feels like if a few people don't focus a target down a person can literally just heal back to full and go hide in the flood of players. In addition to that I really dislike the "zerg" gamemodes, I much prefer smaller game modes like the feast but that shit is dead.
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
that's fair, it's not for everyone and luckily there are lots of ways to level
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
Do they give you entirely new Hotbars or does it still use your 10 Job Hot Bars? I do a lot of bar-swapping for tanks and DPS, so I wouldn't want that to get all F'd up.
@Seanana_
@Seanana_ 2 жыл бұрын
Entirely new pvp ONLY bar
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seanana_ perfect, thanks!
@shahsparda
@shahsparda 2 жыл бұрын
I did it daily for the sake of levelling exp. Once all my jobs are 90, probably I won't touch this anymore.
@JasonNR
@JasonNR 2 жыл бұрын
I miss how the mode secure used to be played before. We used to split based on which alliance you were in, alliance A would go left, and alliance B was middle and be backup to the other alliances, and alliance C was right. Now, people just capture and leave without defending
@Copain88
@Copain88 2 жыл бұрын
Part of that is because the tactic doesn't work. If you're doing this and an enemy is just hording around they'll just destroy any defenders and butcher your points and farm off of you (since you lose points on death and they gain points).
@JasonNR
@JasonNR 2 жыл бұрын
That didn't happen much when it was ARR. Each alliance used to stay on their "designated" site defending/fighting until it was time to go to the middle. Alliance B was the back up to A and C and would help the side that couldn't hold their own or was being attacked by more than one alliance from the enemy teams. But with how it's played these days, I agree that it's a bad idea now. People just capture and leave, so staying makes you an easy kill. I just miss how it was played before because it was more organized, and people would actually play the objective 😅
@Unahim
@Unahim 2 жыл бұрын
@@JasonNR They're still playing the objective, it's just that deathballing it is a more effective way to play the objective due to Battle High. It's kinda like how I preferred the way Leage of Legends was played in before Season 1/during S1, when nobody had a clue what the "meta" was and everyone just dicked around and let you do fun stuff.
@JasonNR
@JasonNR 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unahim You're right, but I guess I prefer the smaller 8v8s fighting for a point rather than moving as a horde. But that is only for Secure that I think like that, in Seize and Shatter I prefer all the 3 alliances moving together. I wish there was a Frontline mode with only 2 Grand Companies though...
@tankster27
@tankster27 Жыл бұрын
Last time I've seen that strategy used (in Primal) was early SB expansion. That got abandoned. Some people queue synched and tried to revive the strategy in Aether late ShB expansion only for the casuals to point out that they don't care for that strategy. The strategy still exists. It's most likely on the Japan servers
@Syph1l1S
@Syph1l1S 2 ай бұрын
well put video
@michaelgerlach7137
@michaelgerlach7137 2 жыл бұрын
But my question/experience is this: it feels to me that the xp falls off after about 50, and 70 it rather dies....is there something im missing?
@holmesholmes.8784
@holmesholmes.8784 2 жыл бұрын
I dont feel like that, it still give me more than half every complete
@DuskEalain
@DuskEalain 2 жыл бұрын
Late but honestly FFXIV's PVP is some of the best in any MMO I've ever played and I'm honestly surprised it isn't as praised. It's a chaotic clusterfuck but it's a strangely _balanced_ chaotic clusterfuck.
@twest9388
@twest9388 2 жыл бұрын
So were just talking about the daily bonus right? Cause the regular amount of exp per match is awful.
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the duty roulette bonus
@archanglemercuri
@archanglemercuri 2 жыл бұрын
This is your favorite too? gj! You’ll get more exp for a win 🏆! It IS a blast
@orkman198
@orkman198 2 жыл бұрын
So how do i get my pvp skillbar? Only when i enter the game and i have to customise it there or is there a way to switch between pve and pvp skillbar? Cause i have my skillbar set up for pve but dont want to change it for pvp
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
Teleport to the Wolves Den, you can see your PvP abilities there
@orkman198
@orkman198 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jolsn ty for the reply! so at the wolfs den, my skill bar will change and i will see/have my pvp bar which i can customise independent from my pve skill bar ?
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
@@orkman198 Yep
@furuderika8093
@furuderika8093 2 жыл бұрын
Frontlines can be extremely fun, if there one to takes the mantle of leading the group.
@BlackRust
@BlackRust 2 жыл бұрын
Just in time. This is the only mode I haven't tried yet. My main is WAR, SAM is almost lvl 90, so there's only healer left to level to try "all" 3 job types in the game. I guess nothing says kill me like playing healer in PvP 😁 Thanks for the video.
@ascension2789
@ascension2789 Жыл бұрын
White mage is nuker in pvp
@sigmaphi
@sigmaphi 2 жыл бұрын
but wait this is the same frontline that takes over 30 min on EU region?
@jet44444
@jet44444 2 жыл бұрын
I wish tab targeting wasn’t horrible, it would make frontlines way better. Def needs work.
@davidcasey1119
@davidcasey1119 2 жыл бұрын
Are you using cone targetting (think that's what it's called)? It's not perfect but better than the default.
@taylon5200
@taylon5200 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidcasey1119 I think by default it's f11
@AsianBinLaden
@AsianBinLaden 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is I'm on Elemental data centre (JP), and for some reason I can never get a queue for Frontline Roulettes no matter what time I try. It always says "more than 30mins", and I could queue for over two hours with no avail. Makes me sad because I'm a sprout who wants to work towards those wolf mark glamours.
@christopherschutz6381
@christopherschutz6381 2 жыл бұрын
Check your selected duty finder languages, maybe you didn't enable japanese so the game looks for english speaking people only
@LoopBell
@LoopBell 2 жыл бұрын
aside from the language, additionally pick the hour. Generally daily rushing hour (00 jst), lunch break, and evening can give you instant queue
@vasilias7987
@vasilias7987 2 жыл бұрын
Try to enter it on 7 or 8 pm jst, usually less than 5 mins waiting Good luck
@mrbastos
@mrbastos 2 жыл бұрын
Frontline roulette is my consistent daily one if I don't have a ton of time. I prefer Onsal Hakair, but all maps are fun. Still not sure of optimal ways to burst someone down in the various jobs, but I still have a lot of fun with it. I do with it gave more experience outside of the roulette, but I'll take it. I've gotten Paladin to 50 last night and Warrior is nearly there too. Mostly just PvP because I'm terrified to tank in a dungeon lol
@gian-paolocassarino
@gian-paolocassarino 2 жыл бұрын
You need to do a quest line or be at a lvl before the duty comes up
@PVWallace
@PVWallace 2 жыл бұрын
Do you only get XP from it once a day?
@tankster27
@tankster27 Жыл бұрын
From the roulette, yes. People will usually settle for 3rd and be fine with this though. If you want to make the most out of your roulette win. You're almost guaranteed a level up from the roulette if you win. It can't be done all the time. However, just know the option is out there.
@d2boysg
@d2boysg 2 жыл бұрын
I am a 500days ffxiv subscriber and i have never play pvp. lol
@Keqing-
@Keqing- 2 жыл бұрын
Ever try to win win give more exp but those afk ppl who says that he get exp with afk and losing yes but winning gives double
@zacharyhall7466
@zacharyhall7466 2 жыл бұрын
It is far too painful to play this gamemode for me. But, I have to :( i need those hellspawn claws or whatever theyre called for a shredder glam
@Errol246
@Errol246 Жыл бұрын
Frontline is also my favourite way to level up, but on account of the EXP being so high. I actually really dislike the gamemode itself. I haven't won a match in months, and most other frontliners also seem to be queuing up just for the EXP with the occasional try-harder in chat who gives us actually good advice, then spams "GG" and "fucking noobs" when all of us braindead casuals do something wrong and accidentally throw the match. It's rough. But damn, does it give a lot of fucking EXP.
@medivh1035
@medivh1035 2 жыл бұрын
man, l wish 4v4 has roulette. that was way more fun than frontline. but frontline is quite efficient. the xp it gives is almost the same as the shorter main scenario roulette
@Ed-el6pp
@Ed-el6pp 2 жыл бұрын
u mean one pvp per day or spamming it?
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
One time for the bonus
@Sparklesniff
@Sparklesniff 2 жыл бұрын
I did my first Frontline roulette yesterday, and I didn't get that much exp. Is it based on your contribution or something? I feel like I didn't do much. I think I got about as much as maybe a trial or Normal Raid roulette
@robertblancke1416
@robertblancke1416 2 жыл бұрын
Watching him take 3 ranged lbs to the face while the healer does nothing. That was painful to watch. Frontline exp is really good though. I've done most of my jobs through frontline Which has hilarious effects on my game experience IE I have no idea how planary indulgence works and I've never casted living shadow (I never intend to play these jobs in pve)
@바보Queen
@바보Queen 2 жыл бұрын
frontline is fun as hell... im only on ARR.. i hate how FF fans really hate pvp in general.. i was shocked my guild has never EVEN TRIED IT... i can't wait for the new FF pvp mode
@buttlesschap
@buttlesschap 2 жыл бұрын
The class design is also simple compared to Wow and Gw2 with their traits and skill trees. It's more balanced imo. It's just crazy how dead Feast is when you account for the playerbase.
@Spaghetty
@Spaghetty 2 жыл бұрын
my only problem is that the match is so damn long and it gets mind numbingly boring in the first 5min
@Kenjitsuka
@Kenjitsuka 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, but playing music when talking only makes you harder to hear, adding nothing :(
@sxoxsxa6704
@sxoxsxa6704 2 жыл бұрын
I thought they patched switching classes in Frontlines back in shb, they brought it back? 🤔
@FabbrizioPlays
@FabbrizioPlays 2 жыл бұрын
I have no explanation for this, but class switching was a thing in 5.58 and it was a thing yesterday when I did my roul. So if they got rid of it in ShB, it wasn't gone for very long
@Duarte_GB
@Duarte_GB 2 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with frontlines is how boring it is, more often than not the games go on until time limit and its completely RNG whether you win or not.
@herstryp2883
@herstryp2883 2 жыл бұрын
In Frontline each team has a 33% chance to win and those percentages vary depending on how competent your group is. If it were totally RNG we would not have people with a win rate that is close to 45%
@ReplayMastersTekken
@ReplayMastersTekken 2 жыл бұрын
So basically spam frontline even without the daily rewards ?
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
No, only for the roulette
@ReplayMastersTekken
@ReplayMastersTekken 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jolsn oh okay t hanks
@Ketenkrad96
@Ketenkrad96 2 жыл бұрын
PVP is trash, but the exp is worth it, just suck it up and youll get about 50-70% of level after like 15 mins max.
@vandso677
@vandso677 Жыл бұрын
Why I don't play frontline: my pc is bad
@Drunklotus
@Drunklotus 2 жыл бұрын
Hello papa
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
oh my god
@SprDrumio64
@SprDrumio64 2 жыл бұрын
The best part of frontline is you dont even have to be the class you want to level lol
@DamnUsernameTakenFU
@DamnUsernameTakenFU 2 жыл бұрын
This is how I leveled my SAM, at lvl 80 I still have no idea how to play the class cause PvP has diff skill set. Lol.
@Hige92
@Hige92 2 жыл бұрын
When i wanna power lvl a Job i just do all the Daylie Roulettes
@kylemccready5081
@kylemccready5081 2 жыл бұрын
ive been doing this for months its such free xp its ridiculous its dumb af and some jobs are hot garbo paladin for example xd also remember to use your xp food before you go in as you cant use it while inside machinist and bard are giga fun would reccomend
@taylon5200
@taylon5200 2 жыл бұрын
Paladin is God tier if in the right hands and the right team comp. Tbh, most jobs are like that. There's maybe like 2-3 that aren't that great right now.
@roxiane
@roxiane 2 жыл бұрын
Im still too intimidated to try pvp out xD I’m the type who’ll just dash to kill when I see other players
@thebattlestation7113
@thebattlestation7113 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be intimidated by Frontline. I have days when it totally wrecks my adhd, but I still do fairly well. I don't even run regular duty finder dungeons because I "might" make a mistake. However, Frontline goes ridiculously sideways on a regular basis, which makes it almost relaxing (in a so bored you could scream kind of way/ or an omg, so many flashy things, and I bet I climb that mountain in the distance kind of way...) I'd at least give it a shot.
@0MosDefinitely0
@0MosDefinitely0 2 жыл бұрын
It's all fun at the end of the day
@mm.stgermain
@mm.stgermain Жыл бұрын
Oh man i hate Frontline
@alexmaganda5827
@alexmaganda5827 2 жыл бұрын
why is warrior like the best tank in pvp seems pretty unbalanced
@herstryp2883
@herstryp2883 2 жыл бұрын
It shows that you have never played with a Gunbreaker, the only tank that can do 3v1 and win
@TheEpicNub
@TheEpicNub 2 жыл бұрын
I hate frontlines now, it was perfect, now Tanks just spam stun you, throw you around like a fucking rag doll, not really sure how you find that fun honestly.
@Crystan
@Crystan 2 жыл бұрын
Frontline is a terrible option for levelling. You get the daily bonus, and then never look at it again. Not only is it the least fun game mode, being horribly unbalanced, it also gives terrible XP outside of the daily.
@Jolsn
@Jolsn 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure how half a level per day for 10-20 minutes of playing is terrible for leveling. Sure you can't spam it multiple times but the xp value you get out of it is simply the best out of all the duty roulettes on a good day and still excellent on others
@jaymzraulfin2227
@jaymzraulfin2227 2 жыл бұрын
99% was great till you closed with the gate keeping; "if you don't do X, your playing wrong" Na, they are playing differently, perhaps sub-optimaly, but they are not spending their free time having fun "wrong".
@taylon5200
@taylon5200 2 жыл бұрын
That's not gatekeeping, that's just being a detriment to your team. If you just dash in when you see a group of enemies you WILL get burst down. No matter what you do. Then, the ones you hit will heal back up and you're feeding the enemy points for dumb choices. It's by definition, the wrong way to play. All it does is fuck both you and your team by playing like that.
@TheGreatDanish
@TheGreatDanish 2 жыл бұрын
We forget to mention Frontline because pvp in this game is absolute trash. I'm glad you can enjoy it, but if I wanted to play pvp, I'd play literally anything else. I always feel awful after playing pvp, win or lose, becuase i just spent 15-20 minutes doing something I had no actual input in. The game just decided if I'd have 23 team mates who were asleep and just there for levels, or 23 sweaty pvp mains, and i had no choice in the matter.
@herstryp2883
@herstryp2883 2 жыл бұрын
Come on, your problem with the PVP is with the community and not with the systems KEKW
@chocomarmotte
@chocomarmotte 2 жыл бұрын
No input towards you winning or losing? A small handful of people playing smart, not feeding and building up their battle high can absolutely carry their team of 24.
@stuart7597
@stuart7597 2 жыл бұрын
Eh winning Frontline is just too random and the queues are only fast for a few hours each day, I would not recommend levelling with it.
@Rysskylt
@Rysskylt 2 жыл бұрын
Winning doesn't change the bonus exp. And it's less than dungeon queues unless you only play at midnight
@stuart7597
@stuart7597 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rysskylt Yeah for sure do the daily roulette but anything more I don't think is worth unless you can win consistently or... if you just really enjoy frontline then lucky you.
@AGuyWithFace
@AGuyWithFace 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like anybody who unironically enjoys 14's PvP have never played another game's pvp mode to understand just how bad it is. It's not even the systems behind the pvp that make it awful since they're fine enough on their own, it's the inherent latency you're forced to play with thanks to the game's terrible networking and insistence on server-side detection. You can be in melee range of somebody and not be able to hit them if they're moving at any speed in any direction, you can see someone drop to 0 HP only for them not to die and pop to full HP literal seconds after you've put a few more GCDs into them, you can use one of the tanks' grip abilities and it'll take seconds for them to actually get pulled toward you, and by the time YOU see them move their character has actually already ran an good 20+ yalms away from you. It feels like you playing in frozen molasses, and it feels awful. I still play it from time to time sure, but I can only stand it for so long.
@herstryp2883
@herstryp2883 2 жыл бұрын
I have played PVP from FFXI to BDO and I enjoy every match of this game and no, some things you mention are not true unless you play with excessively bad connection. The Meeles problem was solved 2 expansions ago when they increased their attack range, the problem you are talking about was in Heavensward and currently complaining about it is playing with a very bad connection. The rest of the problems if they are a big bug like the potions animation which is the worst shit I've seen in an MMO but once you know how to handle these problems it's not even remotely as bad as the one in FFXI or the thousands of other Asian MMO's .
@imrendered
@imrendered 2 жыл бұрын
We havent forgot about pvp, it's just makes all the jobs feel really generic and boring, all of the things that make jobs fun are gone, exc... You want people really interested in pvp instead of just there for a roulette? tell the devs -> 10mil extra subs = 100mil more revenue a month and just like wow, they will neglect and remove things with dumb excuses instead of really just balancing pvp, or improving glamour system.
@ladwarcoffee
@ladwarcoffee 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely wouldn't recommend leveling off of frontlines. Queue times can be fast, if you're doing it in the 2-3 prime time hours, but outside of that you can wait over 2-3 hours and not get a single match. Pvp in ffxiv is absolutely horrible compared to other pvp in other mmos. Pvp in ffxiv heavily relies on full parties or more focus on a single target.
@chistovmaxim
@chistovmaxim 2 жыл бұрын
are you sure you've selected all languages in the duty roulette search settings?
@ladwarcoffee
@ladwarcoffee 2 жыл бұрын
@@chistovmaxim yes, all language even thou on NA English makes up 99.9991% of users
@jet44444
@jet44444 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I’ve played all hours and all times of the day and I’ve never had to wait longer than 5min. I’m on Primal.
@chocomarmotte
@chocomarmotte 2 жыл бұрын
pvp is horrible because you need teamwork to kill someone??? How is it a bad thing lmao, also never had to queue longer than 5 minutes for frontline unless I queue past 1 am.
@KaitoCam
@KaitoCam 2 жыл бұрын
I do frontlines for the exp I don't try to win because I personally think frontlines sucks.
@magnuslello350
@magnuslello350 2 жыл бұрын
should be bannable to throw
@MrMannerless
@MrMannerless Жыл бұрын
Hate pvp but love exp? Then this comment is for you! Simply enter frontline roulette, mount up and go find a tucked away spot by an enemy base. Afk here while moving your character once every 20 or so seconds and watch KZfaq or Netflix on your phone til it’s done! Enemies can’t see you on the map and friendly players aren’t likely to go near enemy spawns! There you have it, problem solved!
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