Old Kratos VS Young Kratos God of War Ragnarok / God of War 2005 Blades of Chaos / Athena kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b81zkqup2Lacd40.html

Tyr gotta be thinking this Kratos guy is the absolute weirdest right now

I dont like how they reduced the amount of fire and ice that comes from the weapons

I'd say, the axe felt and sounded heavy in 2018. From recalling the axe, feeling your controller vibrate as Kratos palms it, to the heavy sound it makes when it arrives in Kratos' hand, it feels heavy. Even when it spins on its own when you hold R1, you can hear how heavy it sounds. In Ragnarok, it sounds and feels light. It doesn't feel like that heavy duty axe in 2018. I preferred the 2018 axe sounds and graphics. The ice was bright blue, distinct from the environment. The ice from the axe in Ragnarok seems to follow a warmer tone, which sometimes doesn't contrast with the environment, rather it blends in and one can seldom tell that he's deployed some ice attack.

It feels more powerful using the axe in the gow Gowr feels more realistic but the satisfaction is reduced

Some of these moves are now belong to the Spear. God of War 2018 was more raw power. Ragnarok focus on utility and versatile which mean you can go crazier with different combos this time.

the axe felt and sounded so much weightier and heavier in 2018. no idea why they changed it

the effects & sound have more impact in the previous game..

Hel Touch in 2018 was like a damn flash bang, but in Ragnarok it feels weaker but the flow up is a godsend in those damn Bezerker fights

If Fimbulwinter really drains all magic, then why are concentrated pockets of magic running around as Wraiths and Elementals trying to kill us? Just something I felt was weird

2018 had way better effect. Attacks felt more powerful, miss that in ragnarok

Those ice particles on GoW 2018's Ivaldi's Anvil relic hits different

i think it's worth mentioning that the Returning Whirlwind no longer is activated with L2-R1, and is now activated with L1(shield)-R1, along with Returning Storm. IMO this is a horrible decision since now you can accidentally fire off runics when doing fast combos with Rw or Rs. If they moved the input to L1 because they wanted to replace it with something else id get it. But it just seems like needless change that's just another backstep from 2018. i defiantly wouldn't say they work the exact same.

1:06 I really prefer ragnaröks here despite less effects. The reason is because in 2018 it literally looks like water, meanwhile in ragnarök it actually looks like ice

In terms of combat, I liked GoW 2018 more than Ragnarok. Especially when it comes to hand-to-hand combat, the lack of a skill tree for it in Ragnarok is disappointing. You have the Lunda Armor set that focuses on hand-to-hand combat yet there's barely any moves for it.

THIS GOTTA BE THE BIGGEST DOWNGRADE BUT THEY DID THE BLADES OF CHAOS EVEN WORSE

All the effects for both the Axe and Blades seems heavier in 2018 yeah, they are more swift now, kinda indicating that Kratos has mastered them and oh, Fimbulwinter drains magic lol

Effects and moves feels like improvement because you aren't blinded by the frost particle effect anymore, but the sound effect change make the axe feels really light and weak. The same problem with blade of chaos, there is no "OOMPH!!!" behind this supposedly heavy attacks.

I wouldn’t say ragnarok’s effects are worse than 2018’s. It’s personal preference really. Ragnarok has more emphasis on the actual element the weapons are using. Yeah the attacks in 2018 felt bigger and more powerful, but thats bc they were all just huge over the top streams and particles that were colored to resemble ice or fire.

Man, I really miss my Glaive Storm in Ragnarök! Ngl as much as I love this game, it kinda sucks having 4 less Runic options for both the axe and the blades compared to 2018

I cant be the only one that felt that the Axe felt a lot stronger in 2018 than it does in ragnarok i dont know if it is because 2018 had more ice and particle effects while using it

Atreus is just standing there like what are you doing I’m bored I want to go on a adventure

I miss holding R1 to throw the axe mid combo, used to do mad combos with that

Damn the sound designs got downgraded to the ground.

The running R2 and the L2+R2 in 2018 i miss so much.. Shit was epic, now its severely toned down and someone mentioned the ice isn't as sharp either.. Like the color of it isn't noticeable like it was before

I miss the old effects, they really make the blows seem to hit harder.

Honestly I miss the gow 4 control like the hold r2 attack is way better in gow4 and the blades is chaos heavy flames attack is better in 4

Tbh I love old attack more, the heavy r2 attack from the above and the hold r1 attack of throwing spinning axe is just great

In GOW Ragnarok you don't feel the weight of the weapons. Leviathan axe felt like a toy. Also you can't directly call axe when using blades when hit 🔺 instead of calling axe it whips the blade. God of war 2018 gameplay was more fluid and fast.

I think a lot of the comments are trying to say there is more impact and crunch in 2018 than in Ragnarok, which is definitely true. I don't have a huge problem with it, but I did notice that throughout my playthrough.

2018 feels more powerful and savage

Am I the only one who likes the lessen particles from attacks? Like I like to see the weapon in action whilst having a decent amount of contrail, too much effects kinda looks too plastic-y in ways, plus the attacks actually looks accurate to the elements that the weapons are portraying. I actually prefer ragnarok's combat overall, I love 2018's combat but I think this is a massive improvement from 2018.

I don't know how to explain it but the Axe felt like less heavy in Ragnarok

I like that they use less effects in GOW:R. Those effects sometimes blocks the view in GOW 2018. I expect to more easily see the enemies in front on Kratos in Ragnarok.

i honestly like the more intense effects in 2018

"the river of knives" in GOW 2018 looks way better than ragnarok's version. also it seems like it travels further too.

The noise and visual effects of the 2018 axe is better. The sound of the "cracking" of the ice after the slam and the glow of the axe itself, in Ragnarok are lacking punch and feedback. Still pretty good though.

I really missed the Hold L1 spinny catch move on the axe from 2018 gow.

Looking at that thumbnail, I thought Kratos was playing a guitar

I like 2018 better when using leviathan axe holding r1.

I think that Ragnarök's moves and effects streamline the look of the game. And instead of blue glow effect for the axe, it's more actual ice and frost.

The VFX seems more *godly* in 2018 😐

I kinda hoped they made combos for the frost awaken and immulation skills

I like both design , but 2018 is more heavy and good feeling for war , and ragnorak good for focus on combos and good graphic

Still miss the glaive storm heavy runic attack for the axe from 2018. That shit was my fav did so much deeps

I think the reason for having less effects (visual/sound) is because the amount of things the game already have. Because having all the realms and much more items make the game massive. So, if they have the same visuals and sound. The game wouldn't be on ps4, GOW Ragnarok would have been the most demanding performing game on the console. The ps4 would overheat horribly

In ng+ they need to make the weapons have a stronger aura

I think they toned down the effects a bit too much but I think what bothers me is the sound effects for the more powerful moves Wish they were a bit heavier I think they toned down the visual effects to make the game not as visually confusing to look at

They should've had option skills, you either can just one tree that has grinding storm or another that has the River of Knives attack.

Glaive storm was my favorite runic attack in 2018, why they deleted:(

Kratos: practicing his axe moves Tyr: don't mind me I'm totally okay with you trying not to kill me with your axe

Can't be the only one that preferes the weapons and armours from 2018. A higher level of polish and weight.

4:40 man in ragnarok it is like a flashlight, you don’t feel the power

Breath of Thamur is in both games, you must buy it from Brok and Sindri in GOW 2018 tho

Grinding storm was the best, shame they took it out

The sound design and the weight of impact is better in 2018

It's sad that ragnarok has lost his axe and Chaos blade effects. In 2018 GOW it looked so cool with the paritcles and now it looks so boring.

3:02 if you ask me.. that was an awesome move, dkw they removed in Rgnrk

Ngl, I fought the dlc statements, but there are a lot of things that feel too similar with a few upgrades I guess but even things like cinematic/powerful looking attacks are toned down, it really feels they added a few features but didn’t overhaul anything really

Ragnarok needs more vfx attacks doesn't feel as powerful as gow 2018 and both games also need quantity over quality enemies like in the old gow games

You know there’s a place in GOWR that’s not the crucible where you can practice on enemies instead of send the axe to space 😂😂

Now that I think about it, they should've went a similar direction to how Ghost of Tsushima handled wind effects and allowed a toggle between minimal and maximum particles, because some people like lots of flashy particles (like me) and others like the slimmed down look. Or even the sfx, which in my opinion was meatier in 2018 Everything is both an upgrade and a downgrade. Like for example, I love Skaldi's edge because the original precision throw lockon kinda felt like a waste of time when I could just combo throws AND get a headshot combo going, but in a runic attack with sick ass slo mo it feels much cleaner and usable mid combat. But taking out the original executioner feels downright wrong, like I want to CLEAVE people, there's already enough cutting going on. And leviathan's wake was just the sickest at sniping.

This man is a w he had to switch between games going through the loading screen just so he could show us this video

is it just me, or are the slams with the axe on the ground in the first one, are more badass?

I miss the sounds of the weapons in the first one

Leviathans wake is now frost awaken + aim r2

Look what they did to my boy...

2018 was so much better for combat(imo). still love ragnarok but really felt like a downgrade for the combat and armor/enchantment/talisman/skills system

Is it just me or does the effects of GOWR looks kinda worse and underwhelming than the GOW 2018, the Oomphing power💥 2018 delivers is just gone in Ragnarok 🙁 Still a great and masterpiece of a game but I just wished they retained the Oomph power effects but oh well 😔

Tyr be like: Please go away I’m trying to meditate here

The Axe to shield/bare hand combat was pristine

The UI in the menus look so much better in 2018

nobody didn't know that returning whirlwind has a follow up after 2 swings if you press again

I feel like they did a few things better in 4 than 5, and I don’t like that they removed a few things and replaced some with less cool attacks and stuff.

man the fx is SOOO MUCH BETTER in 2018. If they reduce it for plot reasons (Kratos have more control of his rage), I say nah... gameplay is gameplay. Edit: or because of Fimbulwinter too apparently

What I feel most lacking is that they removed the combo throwing move. Where if you hit the enemy in the head with light throw and time the return at the right time Kratos automatically throw it and you can do that until the enemy dies. It was so much satisfying. I felt like they lessen the effectiveness of the Axe thrown. Maybe to make the spear feel more attractive, having less overlap between the two. Also I expected a better integration of weapons. They should have built a combination of buttons to rapid cycle between weapons similar to God of War 3. This game requires your thumbs at the analog stick the entire time so you can be always on the move and controlling the camera, at least at higher difficulties. Taking your left thumb from the stick to switch weapon is really bad when you are surrounded by enemies. Especially because you can't obviously switch weapons mid a animation, it's have to finalize. So I need to send still for a moment until the switch is possible, remove my fingers from movement and into the digital directional. It would be more efficient if there was a shortcut, I don't know like L1+ O (I don't think this do anything) that made Kratos cycles to the next weapon already doing a attack to stanger a enemy. The other changes I'm fine with, like I prefer the more bombastic effects of the first game but I realize that one of the criticism over it was the combat was hard to read at a time. They focused so much in make it cinematic with minimalist hud that it affected playability. Most of the changes made were obviously to raise the spatial sense and readability of the combat and enemies and for the most part they succeeded. Let see what changes and balances they bring with new game plus.

Tyr is chiller that Leviathan Axe ever be

The stance change moves have 2 added differences that are cool that not many know about. If you hold the light attack button on the second attack the axe spins around kratos one more time. Also if you mix and match light and heavy attacks in gow 2018 you get a combo of 3 attacks. In ragnorok you can mix and match 5. Only found that out recently. That was awesome

5:58 _in the aaaarms of the aaaangels…_

I miss the old R1 hold move

Ragnarok is beautiful, but the 2018 version is more mysterious. In general, the previous part is much more beautiful in terms of story and drama. An example of this is Kratos' attempt to hide his past from his son and everyone, chasing Boulder and his return to his past to save his son, "the scene of the blades of chaos" and much, much more that remains in terms of story. And the plot is nicer.

Leviathan Axe in GOW 2018 was so much better, feel so much better. In Ragnkarok I feel it nerfed and with downgrade

Imagine showing these AAA titles to the dudes who developed shit like pong and space invaders. They would absolutely shit their pants.

Tyr's revenge is also a regular move in Ragnarök. Just hold R1 while aiming

That person meditating is looking like Lord Shiva

Tyrs revenge being a regular attack in Ragnarok is pretty cool

6:23 Tyr's Revenge is on Ragnarok as a regular skill called "Vengeful Sickle". I think.

in moveset & runic 1.skaodi's edge from hunter killer 2.vengeful sickle from tyr revenge in frost awaken mode 1.frost beach from fury of the ice troll 2.frozen ascent from thiazi talon 3.frozen lance from leviathan's wake 4.precision frost burst from frozen spike

I love the frost ancient laser

Why do i feel like kratos has more beard?

Both are good, but you can't deny that attacks in GoW 2018 were more satisfying to pull off

I gota say tho, the Axe sounds beefier in 2018 than ragnarok. Or was it because you were testing at the Spark of The World? I mean, different places has different filters with audio

Gow 18 fell more powerful and impact, gow 22 fell arcade and speed. Its not bad or good, its different

I liked the old GOW games better because of the impact of the gameplay & sound design. Not to mention the camera was much better when it showed everything on the battlefield rather than having to 360 turn all the time. But that’s just a preference. The new games aren’t bad but aren’t as good. I’ll always remember GOW for its Greek Mythology games. It’s like comparing masterpieces vs knock offs that tried hard.

I bet the reason they had to reduce half the effects is because they had to take account to cross platform with previous consoles

One thing i liked about 2018 is that the effects only became more after you upgraded the axe and blades a certain time I think it especially looked nice while fighting enemies in the wildwoods near kratos house because the lighting there gave the Axe’s FX that really beautiful ice blue. Also i 100% agree with the other comments, that the heaviness are impact of 2018 combat misses in Ragnarok.

Bro could have done it anywhere else but decided to do it where Týr wanted to chill💀

I miss the melee and the ace spinny attack

BROCK - THAT FIMBUL WINTER FOR YA

The shape of the Chaos Blades and Ax was as good and beautiful in Part 4 as it is in Raknerok