Lexus LS430 rear door card removal and speaker replacement

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2020 update: Sound test video here: • 2005 Lexus LS430 Sound...
I have slowly had to replace every speaker in my LS430. 15 years of use & heat has just disintegrated the foam in the mid & low elements.
This video details how to detach the rear door cards (very similar to the front--plenty of KZfaq videos on that already), and swapping the 6.5" speaker elements out of the factory brackets.
A few months ago, a dealership quoted me ~$900 to replace the 6.5" elements in the front doors. I purchased the OEM parts online for ~$385 shipped and replaced them myself in under 2 hours. Everything sounded better, but then I noticed my rear speakers were degraded too. Instead of going with the Mark Levinson Lexus OEM parts, I wanted to try some aftermarket ones: the PRV Audio 6MB250-NDY. A pair of those was only $130 shipped.
Tools needed: Plastic interior pry bar, assorted Philips screwdrivers, wire cutter/strippers or soldering/de-soldering equipment.
Time: ~2 hours start to clean-up.

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@CanDoCorey 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks man these videos are gold for other 430 owners!

@ECB281 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I just put a set of these in the front doors of my 2001 LS430. They sound pretty good so far. I had the same problem it looks like you had with the speaker not fitting flush in the mount. There are some little plastic ridges in the mount that bind on the cage of the speaker. They were easy to shave off with a razor so the speaker fit flush. I didnt bother reusing the foam ring.

@WillHennegan Жыл бұрын

Well Done! Great to hear.

@thirstquencher3203 3 жыл бұрын

You were smart to order those good brand aftermarket speakers!! They sound way better and will last WAY longer with better sound!! You should have just replace them all at once so you don't have to worry about that anymore 😁.. good content!! 👌

@rick15666 4 жыл бұрын

Very helpful video sir thank you! A little confused on why the resistance/ohms is different. I thought they were eight and didn’t vary, but what do I know

@JohnDoe-cv9pr 2 ай бұрын

Great video! Door PANEL

@dattepo7534 2 жыл бұрын

Very well explained good job

@minesaver 2 жыл бұрын

If no one else has commented, that second connector at the window switch doesn't need to be unscrewed. The bulb will just pull out

@buddyvdbfive4552 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Will, are front and rear speakers exactly the same?

@ryderintexas 3 жыл бұрын

Will, great video. I'm thinking of doing it myself rather than having Best Buy install a pair of those PRV Audio speakers. How long did that take you? AND, I'm hoping the front set is as easy as the rear?

@WillHennegan 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, front can be easier. There were already some videos for the front speakers on YT but I made this one because I didn't see any for the rear. If I was a pro or rushed I could probably do the job again in an hour, but I would give myself 2 or 3 to take my time and finish a few beers during the job.

@ryderintexas 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillHennegan I just paid a local shop to do it since I didn't want to take the time (I was giving myself 3 hours) this weekend. The fronts were falling apart and I've decided to do the rears -- and I'll use your video for sure. Thanks for this.

@joshgeorge83 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Will, great video. Curious why you chose these speakers you did. I know its not as easy to find 8ohm and ideal mounting depth of midbass.

@WillHennegan 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Josh. Some Lexus forum members listed these as a great aftermarket replacement for the price. Once I saw they had the right specs, I went with them. As you said, it is not easy to find elements that check all the boxes, so beggars can't be choosers I suppose. I used the OEM parts for the front doors, but wanted to see if I could save a few hundred dollars by using aftermarket speakers for the back. I never sit back there anyway! Still sounding great though from where I sit.

@mraiwa1000 2 жыл бұрын

@@WillHennegan Hey there, do you know of any differences in sound quality over the factory ML speakers versus the new aftermarket ones? Are you still running the factory amp?

@WillHennegan 2 жыл бұрын

@@mraiwa1000 I have not noticed any discernible difference in sound quality. I am still using the factory amplifier

@vargasdominick 4 жыл бұрын

I hope there’s a tweeter replacement video coming

@WillHennegan 4 жыл бұрын

I hope not! The doors, maybe someday, but they're still in great shape. If I have to remove the dash to get to the front ones though...yuck.

@rick15666 4 жыл бұрын

At what ohm rating would indicate an issue? What would be the potential cause, reversed polarity or??

@WillHennegan 4 жыл бұрын

Here is a great article on variations in speaker impedance: www.aperionaudio.com/blogs/aperion-audio-blog/the-truth-about-speaker-impedance The main concern would be like using a 2 Ohm rated speaker on a 8 Ohm rated amplifier. Prolonged use would overheat and damage the amp.

@alexron2023 3 жыл бұрын

Crutchfield has many speaker choices at lower prices and some with a perfect fit .The danger of using a dremmel near a speaker with a permanent magnet, you run the risk of allowing the metal shaving get into the coil of the speaker and you will never get them out.

@mr3DhimselfLIVE Жыл бұрын

My rare sub & driver door speaker jus went out and I'm curious if I put in after market speakers & a new head unit would I have to bypass the factory amp

@WillHennegan Жыл бұрын

That is a bit of over my helmet but I think you would as most aftermarket head units have built in amps with much lower resistance. Do lots of research and forum reading on this before diving in or spending money. I'm sure it has been done before and well documented.

@mr3DhimselfLIVE Жыл бұрын

@@WillHennegan Thanks

@d3gangsta 3 жыл бұрын

You know if the fronts have the same model? Or will these work up front? I need to replace all 4

@WillHennegan 3 жыл бұрын

The speaker elements are the same size, but, per Lexus, they are technically different parts, likely due to the different shapes of their mounting brackets. See the parts list here: www.lexuspartsnow.com/parts-list/2005-lexus-ls430/electrical/speaker.html If you were intending to use aftermarket parts and re-use their mounting brackets. I think you could just buy 2 pairs of the same speakers for front and back.

@thoughtsofa3rdgrader828 3 жыл бұрын

These are midbass speakers..so is there any treble or voice? what sound would come out?

@WillHennegan 3 жыл бұрын

Correct, these are mid range elements, a Jack of all trades and master of none. You'll hear the highs coming from the tweeter in the door, and low lows from the sub on the rear dash.

@SilverShrimpTX 2 жыл бұрын

what year lexus l3430 is this? I have a 2003 Lexus ls430, online says there are 6.5", not 6" as listed in your video

@WillHennegan 2 жыл бұрын

2005

@JZUCF30 Жыл бұрын

What size were they

@darwish21 2 жыл бұрын

How is the sound quality?

@OGYELLOW 3 жыл бұрын

I believe you said this, but these are the same for the front doors as well?

@apesintanks162 3 жыл бұрын

Yes they are. Check on dealer website theyre the same.

@JohnDoe-cv9pr 2 ай бұрын

Isn't that a speaker? I remember the element table but maybe car speakers have been added since I graduated

@skk3940 3 жыл бұрын

What is yellow tool u use to pry open called.

@WillHennegan 3 жыл бұрын

Search for auto trim removal tool sets : )

@Cart23787 Жыл бұрын

can i use 4 ohm replacement speakers for the front doors?

@WillHennegan Жыл бұрын

In theory yes, but I would recommend matching resistance of the amplifier for longevity.

@Cart23787 Жыл бұрын

@@WillHennegan thanks

@Orangematz 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think they sound better than the Mark Levinson speakers?

@WillHennegan 2 жыл бұрын

That is tough to say without hearing both of them side by side. Of course they sound great compared to my old broken MLs. I never sit in the back seat, and used OEM ML speakers in the front doors.

@munifkhateb4167 4 жыл бұрын

How’d they sound in comparison to the OEM ones

@WillHennegan 4 жыл бұрын

That's tough to say without being able to listen to both at the same time. They sound 100% better than my original damaged ones! These sound good enough to me since I never really sit in the back seat, and I can't imagine an OEM set sounding that much better for the huge price difference.

@danecobb4977 3 жыл бұрын

So these speakers would work both in the front and rear door cards?

@WillHennegan 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I believe they would for mine.

@danecobb4977 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillHennegan sweet, how have they held up, they also look like a bit of flinsy foam so I am just hoping I won't have to replace them again in 10 years haha

@danecobb4977 3 жыл бұрын

flimsy

@WillHennegan 3 жыл бұрын

@@danecobb4977 They are still working fine, but I should note I've ridden in the back seat of my car maybe 2-3 times. If people are riding back there, I usually don't have the volume loud enough to notice a difference.

@danecobb4977 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillHennegan gotcha, thanks for the help!

@Kaminospace 2 жыл бұрын

Any problem using the stock amp

@WillHennegan 2 жыл бұрын

16 years old and no problems yet.

@svsansone 9 ай бұрын

Are these the same as the ML speaker?

@WillHennegan 9 ай бұрын

They are the same size, but not like for like with the OEM ML part.

@AngelGuzman-ij7pl 3 жыл бұрын

Where is the video where u replace the woofer

@WillHennegan 3 жыл бұрын

My channel: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNBzl9iIx7ywpZ8.html

@watchme1368 3 жыл бұрын

What size are they all around?

@WillHennegan 3 жыл бұрын

6" in all doors.

@watchme1368 3 жыл бұрын

Will Hennegan TY! Planning to change them on mine too.

@BCqa 2 жыл бұрын

Aren't the 6.5", not 6"??

@playonblueray 2 жыл бұрын

Would you consider doing this for hire? My dad's sounds like garbage. We're local to Houston.

@WillHennegan 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jared, sorry for the delay here. I Would love to help, but my honey-do list is as long as my arm, and I've got to whittle that down before the wife sees more unfamiliar cars in the garage.

@Lodimerg Ай бұрын

The hardest speakers is panel positions.

@apesintanks162 3 жыл бұрын

I can see in a vid that OEM speaker has soft middle piece which means it also for high freq sound output, and prv has hard middle which means it should be more of a mid bass speaker. Assuming all that is correct you will probably lose some crisp high freq sound in your system. Is that a caseM it is very important for me so any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the great video.

@WillHennegan 3 жыл бұрын

No, my OEM door speakers had hard centers and no tweeter elements. These PRVs sound much better. The other ones you may have seen might have been in vehicles with an upgraded stereo trim package.

@apesintanks162 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillHennegan so is it safe to say replacing 4 apeaker with PRV should not compromise sound quality? I have non ML and I can hear speakers are blown. Cant find any info on amp and speaker specs for non ML. Thanks for the reply Will.

@WillHennegan 3 жыл бұрын

@@apesintanks162 It will probably be fine, but I cannot say for certain. Maybe try one pair first and see how that turns out?

@apesintanks162 3 жыл бұрын

@@WillHennegan kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i8mfg8uUkszenoU.html Ok I finally did my speaker replacement with all details in video. Thanks for inspiration Will.

@douglasbarr2636 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered a replacement foam kit for 60 bucks.

@seanjohn83 Жыл бұрын

Best thing to do. Honestly, replacing/modifying the bracket/unsoldering connection took much more time and energy for a lesser grade product.

@rick15666 4 жыл бұрын

Why did you chose to replace the rears? Sorry but that makes no sense to me, unless you could hear an issue with them like audible distortion or physical rattling or something]