The suspension has been fixed. I got my cx60 in December 2023. The suspension is soft and comfortable! I heard all cars manufactured after September 2023 had the improved suspension, and all the ones from before were recalled for suspension revision

battery on my 15 GX still solid;)

Mazda’s aren’t luxury cars…

Thank you, really keen to see if the suspension mods have made any difference. Disappointing to see this from Mazda in what is supposed to be their 'luxury' contender. Not to mention the jerky transmission.

Good on you for judging the car as sold, not as promised.

@@adas2409 Give them a couple of years, let them cook and it'll be good like their other cars

kindly quote the price in us$ too ...unless you do these vids for only Aussies

​@@realityosei3689 It's an Australian KZfaq channel. Prices are quoted in AU$.

Mazda is not a big company, meaning they don't have sufficient funds to cover everything.

@@acde9355 they don't have any problem charging for qualities the car doesn't have

Even stranger that they're not urgently rectifying them.

Mazda know they can charge these prices, because they’ve placed their products extremely well in the market.

@@lukeclifton4392It’s a huge gamble, as they are not as established as Toyota, for instance.

Glad it was helpful!

@@chasingcars also, to who ever in the CC office is replying to all the haters and those who feel they have to point out errors where they don't exist- I love the sass, direct and to the point. Keep it up!

Thanks for the sub!

Yes, it has a full spare wheel.

Your comment is unfounded as you've said "a very small difference in dynamics". The difference is substantial, not small.

So is the price

You're right, the NX and this are direct rivals. Not sure why this channel considers the RX to be so, when it's quite a bit bigger and much more expensive 😅

@@campbellreither550 indeed and the price point matches as well. I guess they just happen to have the RX as long term review and would have more thoughts on it and plus the RX and NX are quite similar same platform same power train.

Yep, seen road tests here in the UK between the CX 60 and NX. Not the more expensive RX

I decided the RX was the better comparator. Lexus SUVs are deliberately sized in between their German (or Mazda) rivals. NX is a smaller, narrower vehicle than the CX-60. Just because others have done it differently doesn’t mean this isn’t fair, in your words.

yes, it's kinda not fair, while the NX, RX, and CX-60 are basically the same height, and yes the CX-60 is closet to the width of the RX than the NX, length wise it's completely different, RX is a much more significant 150mm longer than CX-60, while the CX-60 and the NX is less than 100mm apart (80mm to be precise) riding on a more space effective FWD platform, which put it on the same class on anyway you look it, like how every other reviewers look it as well, i think either he just want the Lexus to win, or its the easiest one to get(since the RX is their long term-er) and even if they want the Lexus to win, according to his word the RX & CX-60 are comparable luxury wise, which we can safely say the CX-60 is noticeably more luxurious than the NX

RX is a different "bigger" category, not a balanced comparison.

@@PechuPeluche yup

Here in Japan the RX 350h is like twice the price of middle range CX60

Its a hybrid, it has plenty of torque.

The NX is shorter and narrower than the CX-60. The RX is longer than the CX-60. Lexus deliberately sizes its SUVs between the German rivals. Personally, I believe the RX is the correct rival here.

yes, it's kinda not fair, while the NX, RX, and CX-60 are basically the same height, and yes the CX-60 is closet to the width of the RX than the NX(it's still very similar in width between the 3), length wise it's completely different, RX is a much more significant 150mm longer than CX-60, while the CX-60 and the NX is less than 100mm apart (80mm to be precise) riding on a more space effective FWD platform, which put it on the same class on anyway you look it, how every other reviewers look it as well, i think either he just want the Lexus to win, or its the easiest one to get(since the RX is their long term-er and even if they want the Lexus to win, according to his word the RX & CX-60 are comparable luxury wise, which we can safely say the CX-60 is noticeably more luxurious than the NX

thank you (I think)

@@chasingcars you re most welcome! thank you for the video.

If the ride and transmission issues were fully resolved it would be in much closer contention.

@@chasingcars wow and with Mazada at $27,500 cheaper. very interesting!!

@@chasingcars actually as noted by @markandersson the CX-90 would level that $27,500 price difference. how about a new comparison much-up with the CX-90 please?

Interesting. Is yours FWD or AWD?

Space saver or a real spare tyre ? Cheers

@@chasingcarsAWD, it’s a space saver.

@@sjh4803space saver.

All mazda's have a smaller backseat than rivals. The direct size competitor of the NX is the CX-5

The NX is half a size smaller than the Mazda, the RX is half a size larger - but all have two rows

However, the NX is comparable in price whereas the RX is considerably dealer. I drove the NX and imo it is an inferior car to the CX-60 is every way. Compare the CX-90 to be fair. I have had the PCM transmission upgrade and it has essentially cured the transmission issues, which were not as bad as the tester claims imo. As for the suspension, while I acknowledge the Mazda is not fantastic in the rear end, it is comparable to my X3 M40i. Also not sure that the tester is being fair in describing the scheduled suspension changes as “relatively minor”. Free replacement of rear dampers is not a minor change.

I can't imagine how the NX is inferior in every way. That is a bold claim. For starters the NX has better fuel economy than an RX which was better than the Mazda here so it's not interior for fuel economy. I just can't imagine it's inferior in every way. Plus Lexus reliability. ​@@markanderson3618

It is a little longer and a little wider, yes, which explains part of the extra rear seat and boot room (as well as its shorter engine compartment). Still, these two are reasonable substitutes.

Your words will be right if mazda still a normal brand , but today mazda is a luxury brand

Fingers crossed. With a couple of years of experience in building this platform now, there is no excuse for the teething problems to persist

We're finding out exactly what is being done, and also testing an upgraded car in a couple of weeks time. We'll then do an independent review of the upgrades and let you know how much it fixes the situation.

Mazda is offering a suspension fix for all owners, and all new CX60 already have it installed. There's also an update for the transmission.

@@bauboni What are the technical details of the "fix"?

@@danielr3207 a “a revised rear shock absorber”, and for the trans "Powertrain Control Module (software) to the latest calibration, which combines the engine control unit (ECU) and transmission control unit (TCU)."

Considering that they wouldn't want to reduce their margins anymore than they'd have to, I reckon it would be a very very minor fix. Gen 2 and gen 3 would be the go me thinks.

The latest generation RX is a good looking car. Comparing to the last generation it's a big improvement. Its proportions are right. It doesn't have that ugly front overhang and generally the car is planted properly on the road.

Front of the new Rx is one of the ugliest ive seen, its the reason Why i havent considered an RX yet..

It does have potential. What it needs is an effective retune. Let’s see if the first upgrade does that…

Given nobody’s road tested the CX-70 I think it’s a little early to make the call that it’s the ‘proper’ rival, and there is no avoiding that the 70 is quite a bit bigger than the RX. Lexus SUV sizes are deliberate in-betweeners: the CX-60 is 150mm shorter than RX but the CX-70 is 220mm longer than RX…

The proper comparison is lexus nx vs cx 60. This is like comparing audi q5 vs bmw x5, it's just not right. World's first comparison between different categories.

It’s absolutely nothing like comparing the Q5 and X5, actually. The NX is not the same segment as the CX-60. It’s half a segment shorter and narrower, while the RX is half a segment longer and wider. Lexus does this deliberately. Their sizes do not line up with the Germans. To suggest they do is utterly misleading.

Really now? You think nx is half a segment shorter than cx60, for 8cm differnence? Yet you a l s o think, rx is half a segment larger than the cx60, for 18cm difference? Math is not you're strong point i see.

The CX-30’s ride isn’t as bad as the CX-60, but the -30 is indeed fairly stiff. Perhaps your car is on 16” wheels. If it’s on the 18s, well, it’s fairly stiff

Mine is on 18-in wheels The touring version​@@chasingcars

The lines are blurry, but the RX and CX-60 are correctly considered rivals. The NX is considerably smaller (4660mm long vs 4740mm for the Mazda) and doesn’t really have a direct rival in the Mazda stable. As for the CX-70, that’s really more of a rival - we think - to the more athletic cars in the class like the X3 and F-Pace. But there isn’t much in it.

@@chasingcars dimensions CX-60 4740 NX 4660 Ok 80mm difference RX 4890 Difference with cx-60 150 mm Agree that each manufacturer has own class limits but RX(4890) is a rival for X5 (4922), XC-90(4953), CX-70(90)(5100) And NX(4660) is a rival for X3(4706), XC-60(4688), CX-60(4740) So… X3 could not be a rival to cx-70 if cx-70 is bigger than x5 :) Anyway thanks for detailed updates related to Mazda fixes progress, this is something really rear on KZfaq, really nice work!

​@@chasingcarsCX-60 is closer to the NX in size than the RX, especially in terms of the interior space. Most of the extra length of the CX-60 when compared to the NX is due to the engine being longitudinally mounted, requiring more length for the same interior space.

I’m not really agreeing. Lexus deliberately sizes their SUVs to sit between the traditional German classes, so it’s always a judgment call (and I’ve made mine). NX feels and drives like the smaller, narrower vehicle it is - not like a BMW X3 (or a Mazda CX-60). Even so, I’d say the NX would have carried the win all the same as it’s ultimately similar to the RX in basic handling characteristics. Second, to suggest the CX-70 is somehow the direct rival to RX when it’s 220mm longer makes less sense than criticising the suggestion the CX-60 is the wrong competitor at a 150mm length difference. The fact is simple: Lexus doesn’t use traditional sizing. We have to work around that.

@@chasingcars regarding RX and cx-70, yep, hard to compare them as they are on polar size approaches. Regarding to which Lexus model compare cx-60 - to the one with 80mm difference or 150mm difference - got your opinion. Cannot say that fully agree with it, but was interesting to get a feedback, so thanks for that

It’s Mazda claiming it is now in the same league as Lexus and those other brands, not me.

@@chasingcars ic, should have told them that they're dreaming! Mazda having comedy hour!

Anybody that knows Chasing Cars knows that we're absolutely unbiased and independent. That's our thing. You may be experiencing some confirmation bias from your own purchase decision. All the best!

@@chasingcars before my first service Mazda offered to change the shock absorbers but I declined as I could not fault them! The ride is comparable to the cx5 that I traded in, in some cases slightly better so I don’t know where you found the ride too harsh!

Who cares? People who like their vehicle to drive properly

A CX-60 has NOTHING in common with a CX-5. What are you talking about?

@@Seriously140 a CX-60 is the modernized 7 year old and ongoing design of the CX-5. Is intended to be in that category. Mazda might try to sell it as an upscale design in their view to go more premium, and the fact that the CX-5 sells so well for them, at least in the USA, that it still makes sense to keep it, but still, is that same category. Sizes of cars have been increasing a little through out last years, every brand has done that, so saying it’s a bit bigger that the CX-5 doesn’t mean is not the same category. Most brands have size up a bit in their latest model years. Most people understand this and know the CX-60 is intended to compete in the same category of the NX, NOT the RX, that would be the CX-80 in that case.

Confirming we're correct in stating the boot space as 477L for the Australian market. Cheers.

Mazda says it's 570 litres and every review I have watched says the same. No idea where you guys get your information from but it's wrong. The Cx5 even has a bigger boot space than the 477 you say the Cx60 has..

A CX-60 would be an X3 competitor. Not even close to an X5.

I am on my third RX, all the 3.5l V6 RX450h, it handles well around the twisty roads as well on motorways.

The boot capacity is 570 litres not 477 litres.

RX pricing changed between filming and eventual publication. Also, the word is "maths".

@@chasingcars”maths” depends on which region you are in so “math” is also correct

It's not enough to just say, oh, it's OK, because the Mazda is a first-generation product. The fact is it has to be competitive with the benchmarks. Yes, the Lexus is considerably more expensive, but clearly, you get what you pay for in this instance.

Well said

I expect it has run flats instead. I've had 2 Lexus' with run flats now and I love them! Get a flat tyre, shows up on the dash, keep driving and get it repaired next day!

More on price than quality? Lookup who is regularly on top of most reliable car brands in the world, look up who is on top for best after sales service, look up who is always on top for most trusted car brand... These are independent global stats that don't lie. That's what money buys.