Remember that GTX 960 I did the ghetto fix on? Well I finally got some mosfets to attempt a 'real' repair. There were mixed results.
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@s.c.o.s46724 жыл бұрын
you may not get many viewers that will stay and watch the whole video, but those that do stay greatly appreciate your hard work!!
@Peanut.75110 ай бұрын
81 comments but no comments let me fix that
@necro_ware4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thank you very much. May be as an idea, I saw some similar videos from Russian guys and they all told, that if on of the MOSFETs blew up, it is usually not sufficient just to replace it. In the best case it will work for another week or so and, in the worst, like in yours, it will blow up immediately again. They say, that if you have to replace a MOSFET, you always also have to replace the controller, because it usually is the reason, why the MOSFETs blew up in the first place anyway.
@Adamant_IT4 жыл бұрын
I think you're right. This video ended up being super popular, so I might take another swing at this, just to see if we can finish the job. It'll be a while though!
@vitor9000004 жыл бұрын
Good advice.
@gaspardeelias24854 жыл бұрын
@@Adamant_IT Yes, i also believe the controller has turned on both mosfets (high and low ) at the same time, creating a path to ground through the low side mosfet probably, blowing the high side one. Replacing the controller too, might solve the issue
@yosuhara4 жыл бұрын
@@gaspardeelias2485 You mean NCP81174?
@CXensation3 жыл бұрын
@@yosuhara No - its the mosfet driver chip Adam mentions: NCP 81062 from ON electronics. They are available from Aliexpress.com Links to the ON datasheets site: www.onsemi.com/ www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NCP81062-D.PDF www.onsemi.com/pub/Collateral/NCP81174-D.PDF Apparently the mosfet driver chip fails by turning on the lo-side mosfet simultaneously with the hiside mosfet, thus taking out the weaker of the 2.
@j2simpso4 жыл бұрын
"we did actually burn test this one" You sure did! 🤣
@robertrombouts50953 жыл бұрын
darn it to late to make the joke xD should have found it earlier xD
@dawn52273 жыл бұрын
Quite literally
@TheWinkaway4 жыл бұрын
Dude, this is epic. I never knew it would be such an emotional roller-coaster. Haven't watched to the end yet but I'm rooting for you
@trumanhw3 жыл бұрын
I CANNOT TELL YOU how GOOD your content is ... and more importantly, how SUPERIOR your educational value is to anything I've seen.
@wahabfiles62604 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE REALLY AMAZING. MY REGRET IS WHY I DIDNT FIND YOUR CHANNEL EARLIER! A GOOD CRAFTSMAN ALWAYS SHOW HIS MISTAKES SO WE ALL DONT MAKE THEM! YOU ARE EXCELLENT EXAMPLE! REALLY LIKE YOUR TROUBLESHOOTING CYCLES!
@andlep3 жыл бұрын
I am watching you solder at 2am and find it fascinating. Love your videos 👍
@vomytdaug2 жыл бұрын
I paid 15k for electronics school and I learned more in this video than I did in 2 years at school.
@zachlake58973 жыл бұрын
Oh yay! I just watched the ghetto fix and was hoping there was an update video, and behold, here we go! Thanks again for the great content!
@concinnity12403 жыл бұрын
I’m watch these every night before I go to sleep. Wonderful info!
@walterg42003 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the details and explaining clearly how all this works. Very helpful. Would like to see more.
@saduniwathsala Жыл бұрын
Please try to do it you are the best guy explaining well throwing out lot of knowledge and experiment
@MarioDallaRiva4 жыл бұрын
Bravo, Graham! Super informative and entertaining.
@keithcoltron31713 жыл бұрын
I really like your channel as you don't floss over problems but show everything warts an' all, well done keep it going.
@anks8884 жыл бұрын
I would guess the driver chip was turning on the high side and low side at the same time common issue with switching supplies
@gonzomiller17204 жыл бұрын
That was really entertaining. Shame it didn't turn out as you hoped but hey, after all the replacement surgeries and explosions you still got it to work. That's a big win in my books. Keep it up! :D
@NilsJakobson4 жыл бұрын
I have tried these MOSFET replacements and failed each time. But I never tried to dig that deep and improvise. Thanks for very interesting video!
@yogevbocher36034 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the interesting lesson.
@gogee8510 Жыл бұрын
Love your determination and commentary.
@mnaemark Жыл бұрын
"It's Turbo dead! Ohhh Nooo" thank you, thank you, Thank You!!! I will be bogarting this quote over and over. Thanks for being human!
@JonathanWellskcender4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Know how buck converters work, but never though about how they're used for multi-phased VRMs. Thanks for the education.
@kevinjunior84413 жыл бұрын
thank god for these videos. I have a evga 960 that had a similar meltdown, Inductors exploded and it shorted, and the fan bearing blew out. the blue pcb burnt to a brown color. hoping it didnt destroy the traces in the pcb, that will make this repair a thousand times harder... But i wanted to try and practise repairing components. And this video was exactly what i needed! thanks a bunch!
@kevinjunior84413 жыл бұрын
Lol i did the same thing you did too! I plugged the 960 into a lower wattage psu, a 550 and it took power and fan kicked on, just didnt produce an image.. so i tossed it into my system to be faster with troubleshooting and plugged it into a 850w and suddenly i smell a burning smell, the fan is twitching and came to the conclusion my 850w surged into the card and fried a bunch of stuff.
@suicidalpig2792 Жыл бұрын
Great video & with a great deal of patience, well done :)
@babydust2me2052 жыл бұрын
I always watching your videos, and thank you that u mentioning the degree Celsius of hot air. Make more videos where here and waiting and starting learning
@lorenzocorradini75563 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos. I'm really getting interested in electronic boards and their components now :-)
@GlishaSo Жыл бұрын
that was crazy long and so educional video ! Respect for making videos like this to people understand little more more stuff :)
@tanerriffat79634 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Loved this video!
@ovalwingnut4 жыл бұрын
Thank You. And yes, learned alot (and I was sure I knew everything🙄). I enjoyed the magnum length video version. I ordered a pizza and told my GF to get lost. OK, I didn't do that.. I just let the air out of her 🤤 Anyhoot, you fought the good fight. Think I will pickup one of these classics. It will feel like an old trusted friend. Cheers 🇺🇸😁🇬🇧
@crylune4 ай бұрын
The fuck
@boyipis62624 жыл бұрын
i learn a lot with this Honest vlog.... i'll continue watching and leaning on you vlogs....
@ThePhoenix1983 жыл бұрын
'Honest' is a very apt word. He shows his failures and mistakes, not just his triumphs.
@joebobcedar3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I really learned a great deal!!!👍🏼😎👍🏼
@hadyyaseen85922 жыл бұрын
50:20 i was so happy watching this moment your way of explaining things is amaizng
@robinrochan93013 жыл бұрын
Thanks very good and nice video I learnt so much from you.
@Patrick-pl8wv2 жыл бұрын
I did learn a lot from this video, thank you.
@jimsinnovations27374 жыл бұрын
id love to see you fix some rx 570s an 580s i have a bunch i could send u man, i need fixed, but to see u do it would help me fix mine i love how u go over everything an explain it, SO AWESOME MAN i love you!!
@alanbenson15053 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video. Thank you.
@andreilucian104 жыл бұрын
I watch your videos like i watched The Shawshank Redemption or other great movies :))Imagine in high school i was the electronic class and none of those teacher talked like that and was so boring.Now...i watch with big curiosity, you explanation are so good and i understand no matter if my english is bad. :)) GOOD JOB!
@harryspapadopoulos88184 жыл бұрын
Man you are the teacher I never had🤗
@christopherkelly33734 жыл бұрын
Brilliant info - really useful and educational... many thanks for taking the time to share.. Subscribed ! :-)
@camcurtis26283 жыл бұрын
Very good try. I really enjoyed this video. Thank you.
@martonjuhasz65693 жыл бұрын
I like your videos very much. Your speach is 98% understandable for a non native, non supreme speaker :) You can teach me electronics - in English! - That is way more rare than you may think...
@eman594613 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I learned a lot I found an ATI RX series card in my closet going to try and fix the short with my new machine.
@hungrynapps3 жыл бұрын
I dont have a desk top pc. Mostly laptops I own.. but as a electrical technician.. this Is informative and interesting to watch
@onlyeyeno3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great and very interesting video ! ;)
@berbum45308 ай бұрын
I DONT USUALLY STAY FOR THE LONG VID....but i was fascinated so I finished the video
@andrewmeikle7854 жыл бұрын
Terrifc video learned a lot . I am playing around with some ebay failures , Looking into reflow if no obvious failures.
@radio-ged4626 Жыл бұрын
Interesting look into buck regulators. The only thing you didn't try was swapping out the driver i.c. I think that was faulty (thermally unstable) and provided the path to ground for the high side f.e.t. The driver i.c. probably switched the f.e.t. on for too long, killing it.
@SH-vv7zq4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this video - I learned a lot :)
@craigreynolds44493 жыл бұрын
Good work, respect chap
@mauriziomartelli21633 жыл бұрын
Boy, (i'm 63) you have done a good work. It will be that you not have fixed the phase, but for sure you have teached something of english to me!
@maricor19933 жыл бұрын
So very interesting video. Very educational.. i injoy watching.
@GadgetUK1644 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!!!
@Stux_234 жыл бұрын
Thnx for sharing knowledge... u are great man
@hadireg4 жыл бұрын
On top of the great content in your channel, I love your English! 👍👍
@rougeleroux68034 жыл бұрын
Agree
@dormankenneth4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this came full circle! Good info though!
@emersonarango6493 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the amazing explanation
@KILLER_W0LF.3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! More please !
@petlover89204 жыл бұрын
Graham bro, you are really awesome.....
@rougeleroux68034 жыл бұрын
Love the videos very educational
@SwapPartLLC7 ай бұрын
In my experience (not specifically related to graphics cards), if your MOSFETs short, you should assume the drivers have been damaged and replace them as well.
@BigEightiesNewWave4 жыл бұрын
Been at NorthridgeFix , felt guilty so checking in. 😂😍
@smilemore2094 жыл бұрын
SUBSCRIBED! Keep up the good work and Thank you for this information! :)
@zepplinc204 жыл бұрын
I love the cheap compact testers/o-scopes. However in this case I'd love to see a decent analog scope, at least in an educational video. Just constructive criticism. Nicely done though.
@Arek_R.4 жыл бұрын
True that, he's getting confused a lot just because the scope is limited and doesn't show properly what's going on. I think he should see full 12V on the mosfet output, mosfet is either off - 0V or on - 12V, it should not show anything in between.
@cweluszek3 жыл бұрын
@@Arek_R. That's not actually true, with such high switching frequency you can't constantly hold 12V or 0V at the output, I will always be something between. And for such purposes there will be no difference between cheap and professional o-scope, only slighly change in readings accuracy. Personally I use ad1102ca from Atten which isn't either cheap or expensive, but didn't notice difference when compared to cheap ones or some high end for thousands of $ ;)
@clems6989 Жыл бұрын
The difference isnt accuracy. The sample rate / memory depth, determine what can be displayed on the screen.
@danielharo26514 жыл бұрын
awesome video! ive got an rx480 im trying to fix and this is super helpful.
@deminybs3 жыл бұрын
Killer video, good info
@PapaMav2 жыл бұрын
Still, a great vid. I had no luck trying to replace a broken off 3.0 USB header pin on an older ASUS mobo, by desoldering/soldering (plan was to us a leg from a LED) but still felt satisfied with my effort in trying.
@ikativan21103 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration of how buck regulators work in real life. 👍👍👍 After theoretical explanation in a couple of previous videos it's nice to actually see it "in action". 😊😉 Thx for the effort.
@Krysty1119994 жыл бұрын
Nice work mr. !
@markg35064 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@aaaronmiller1002 жыл бұрын
great content. thanks!
@cweluszek3 жыл бұрын
"the short magically disappeard" :D There's no magic, the problem lays in the method you use to solder the mosfets (or actually any QFN-type components with thermal pads), placing to much solder on pads and then trying to push it out is a bad idea, 'cause you push it in all 4 directions, 3 visible and also the one that goes to G and S pads of the mosfets which you can't see but for sure will make a short circuit ;) So in my opinion it's better to clean the pads from old solder and use solder paste (even some cheap chineese one), SnPb is preffered (by me) 'cause of lower melting temperature :) @1:09:40 you start thinking why it shorted again and burn upper mosfet while it has no connection to GND, it's all caused by failed PWM controller and/or driver which drives low side mosfets constantly so at output you have GND all the time and when swiching upper one it simply burns out ( double lower side mosfets can handle that short, single upper one will blow up)
@jmalone41423 жыл бұрын
Amazing video keep it up
@wendyg43823 жыл бұрын
Another great informative video, please Sir keep them coming but also please don't endanger the lives of yourself or your staff
@chuff0084 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@phedrosk91793 жыл бұрын
How can you be so cool?! Thanks Sir!!
@christechtime4297 Жыл бұрын
I find it funny that right after I left the video and commented you need to read schematics, you start looking at schematics. Albeit not the card manufacturer schematics. I wonder why? Also critical because the phase ground didn't end there, couldn't you have traced it farther? I do understand though you showed how you can figure out without schematics what goes where, which is handy if it is obscure or old, but that card wasn't either. Can't you get small business loans to cover ultrasonic cleaners and Schematics websites? I can't find them for free but idk. Thanks, this was awesome! I learned a ton. Entertaining as well.
@hadyyaseen85922 жыл бұрын
man youre amazing i love you
@technomad9003 жыл бұрын
I have a GTX 970 looks like liquid damage , short out PC . Happy to post it for a attempted diagnostic video
@AndehX4 жыл бұрын
you have exactly the same multimeter as me xD Man, I'd love to work in a repair shop with you, haha
@davekelders2833 жыл бұрын
Forget your Kyles, Jayzs and Linusus.... This real IT problem solving! I wouldnt attempt it myself though... My clumsy fat fingers wouldnt be able to be this precise
@TechforTechs4 жыл бұрын
Good video 🔥💥💥
@albaresluis4 жыл бұрын
Superb!!!!!
@1este113 жыл бұрын
3rd LFC video and i learned a lot already.. subbed! Why this youtube only recommend your video just now?
@rbtgmnstcs3 жыл бұрын
Question is.. have you tested the coils which the mosfets are working together with? If they all have the same characteristics to different frequencies, or if other components have measured values slightly off specs. It's a longshot, but it might be the cause of why it's the first mosfet that shorts, if the harmonics might be off tune causing standing waves, or if some other component interferes. I was thinking, maybe you could trick it into running 2 phases instead of one at lower and moderate load to smoothen the transition to 3 (or 4) phases? I really enjoy your videos and your waffling :)
@ImaginaPower3 жыл бұрын
cleaning with isopropyl alcohol will help a lot and I believe that part that you did not know what it did is some kind of a boos or buck converter for voltage depending on the configuration.
@larrybaker22613 жыл бұрын
I'm a retired electronic tech from the USAF and I've seen a capacitor test good but then go short. Replacing the capacitor corrected the issue of a system blowing a fuse. I'd say replace the Q1 cap even if it tests good.
@FireballXL554 жыл бұрын
Hi I am loving your videos on repairs keep them coming. How ever it is not really a VRM, that term was used when the voltage regulator was on a small pluggable module, hence Voltage Regulator Module. I am guessing the the topside FET is not switching properly maybe the bootstrap capacitor or driver IC is not working properly. The input inductors are only for EMI reduction, if they were not fitted and it went short all that would happen is the PSU would go into chirp mode assuming you do not have any other components in the board that would fail 1st. I believe the weird chirping you saw on the scope was a sign it was not switching correctly, and the waveform on the output of the FET will be a pulsed one from GND the 12V, I am assuming your pocket scope cannot display the correct waveform.
@elizabethtorres60693 жыл бұрын
Sir, it's 3:48am in the morning... WTHECK just happened.. all I heard was turbo dead.. Mosfett just dropped dead!! 😂R.I.Pieces Mr. Mosfet. Sorry sir, I was quite happy for your accomplishment. Use the donor card.. what else can work as an inductor replacement? Dr. Frankenstein we need an Abby Normal Brain.. A better Mosfet that can handle a fuller load. This way the resistors can still take care of some of the flow.
@neelbanerjee30864 жыл бұрын
Lovely bro
@SuperFredAZ3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to imagine it's worth your time to attempt to repair a 960 board. I don't know about the U.K. but a board like this is worth about $150 functioning, it seems like too much time and effort for not enough potential reward. Anyway, I really enjoy your videos, keep them coming!
@mr.k32244 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@darrenuk833 жыл бұрын
How have I only just found your channel?!...I'm just waiting for my graphics to come out of the oven.
@MrBook1234563 жыл бұрын
well made video
@noeyanez76584 жыл бұрын
aewsome dude, keep it raining...
@serogapeterson86482 жыл бұрын
Videocard resurections.. Nice man
@gabrielenitti32434 жыл бұрын
at the start of page 13 of the datasheet at 21:57 sec, it's clearly written "if a phase is unused, the differential inputs to that phase's current sense amplifier must be shorted together and connected to the output"
@Adamant_IT4 жыл бұрын
Well spotted - that might've been the purpose of the resistors around the unpopulated driver chip.
@roy26892 жыл бұрын
I know this video is getting on a bit now but I just stumbled across it, and I couldn't help but notice that the electrolytic cap by the auxiliary power connector seems to have the polarity the other way round, just a thought...
@flrazvan3 жыл бұрын
Man, i am not an expert, i do repair things from time to time, but your voice and especially your English accent, really make me watch your clips. I have an issue with a keyboard: a column of keys get lights but don't send a signal, the keyboard is Logitech G pro. I try to bridge but it seems all keys ( F7, 5, T, G, V and Space) are one link on the board. Do you have any idea on how to start this repair, whats spares should I look for. This issue appeared after I try to resolder a switch ( I ve done this before, many times but never saw this type troubleshooting ). Thank you so much and Rock on!
@bandit60483 жыл бұрын
Awesome! It's such fun going along for the ride. I don't understand everything but it's fascinating to learn :) Sorry about your "quiet night". Oh does it matter that the first coil is crooked?
@b1rebel3 жыл бұрын
i got a gtx970 that set on fire, i had it water-cooled but the pump died. there are a couple of scorch marks on the water block it looks like a couple of tiny diodes. i might have to give this a go at some point.
@jlol49513 жыл бұрын
Did you put a fuse on the input supply, instead of the inductors (is it a potential bomb for your buddy)? Something like 10 - 12A perhaps. Enjoyed the video, cheers.