Well being able to show the highlights properly is also very important. Less tone mapping and more HDR impact.

@@micker9830 Well yes but if a TV doesn't get bright enough or cannot tonemap good enough to retain detail in highlights, that's not nearly as distracting as detail loss in the near black region. Sure you loose some HDR-impact and instead of a detailed sun or flashlight, you just get a white surface on the screen but our eyes are not that sensitive to that. If there is a problem in the 0-5 nit region, our eyes are way more likely to pick up that there is something wrong, for example black crush (lifted shadows are not that big of a deal imo though since you won't know they're lifted as long as there is still true black), uneven uniformity, bad gradiation/posterisation coming out of black or artifacts which tend to occur in dark scenes like chrominance overshoot, heavy noise or macroblocking. These things are way more important than a little blown out highlights also because - as classy said - it's visible in way more scenes than bright highlights and our eyes are more sensitive to it. The near black performance is the only thing I'm not quite happy about my S95C, as Classy said, there isn't a TV on the market yet that can do near black perfectly (Panasonic and LG are probably the closest atm), now that's what I like to see not more brightness.

Exactly, completely agree!

@@micker9830 The big difference is that tone mapping for peak highlights is almost always only noticeable in a side by side comparison, i.e. it is not perceived as a flaw on simple observation. Whereas weaknesses in the lower brightness levels are almost always perceived as disturbing and incorrect, e.g. as flashing artifacts. So I totally agree with Classy.

This is going to get really good with this apparent great new processor capability now. Can't wait for the Classy data breakdown on this one..

you dont even need to think. throw a dart. anyone would be more than satisfied with any of these

Until you play Mario Kart on them and pause and look at the screen on all 3 of them.

@@techsamurai11 I'm 76 years of age, my Mario Kart days are over. I bought the Sony A95L 77" and love it.

@@carlcat you made the right choice - Mario Kart looks a lot better on the A95L.

Yep they all look the same yet people will pony up day one price 😂

Some will never be happy

Yes it is, can't wait for the TV to be available on the market and to have more in depth videos about the G4.

This is a Classy video!!!!!

For the quality of the immagine probabilly lg g4 is the best tv of the world 🏆📺

@@AmurTiger-vm5dy do you have it or you made your impression here on KZfaq?

LG G4 OLED does not have the final software THIS IS POST-PRODUCTION AND DEMO TV , sony and samsung have a calibrated image, the lg g4 does not have a calibrated image

Mine came flawless with zero scratches. Regardless Some will never be happy no matter what.

Hey there im considering returning my a95l for the g4, can you let me know how it goes? :)

Keep in mind this is all 4k content he is shooting. 🙃 Need 1080 content and lower res for cable users to get the full idea of what TVs upscaling can do and what is more life like. Movie performance, tv shows and cable tv. Need more content to show that or at least talk about it. Preferably Less 4k demo content testing if possible for the everyday viewers habits.

My 65 a95L had zero scratches. January build.

The only difference lg made all over this years is evo and mla panels .

@@fullhd5277 the "only"?? and there is 2 gen of evo and 2 gen of mla. and there is heatsink too. all of this make difference. more resistence and much brighter, and better near black too.

The S90C does not have the performance of the S95C, as it is limited in nits.

Great tv you have .

@@sachaburki8535You can go to the service menu and make it way brighter if you want to though.

What happened to the G4 hitting 3000 nit?????

Time for an upgrade from my C1 55" going for an 65" G4

@fepethepenguin8287 That is true at 10k Kelvin native panel temperature can reach 3000 nits below 3% window (Vivid mode) at D65 it's 2000 nits still decent

@@kjell9745 Me too from C9

@@othman0077 ohhh that's right. It was at 10k.... wth ? Don't ask me. I did not think going to 6500 would drop it a full nits

Used the near black overdrive but its not quite the same for chrominance overshoot as some real content scenes. Certain scenes showcase it more than others. Streaming content can also amplify it from compression and less dithering or other effects used to mask near black issues.

@@ClassyTechCalibrationsIndeed! I'm skeptical that it's been 100% solved; all firmwares since 2018 have resorted to dithering near black and not using the white subpixel as a crutch/workaround, with varying levels of success. If they have truly fixed it at the *panel* level - and not just tweaked the dithering work-around for dark colours with spatial and temporal dithering - I'll be very, very impressed. Will be very interesting to see in the fullness of time.

This is the most important factor of anything. As an A95L owner, the G3 was close enough to the A95L in high quality content, but the A95L looked noticeably better in SDR

A11 processor

77

yes no more brightness loss in gaming mode / hgig.

Panasonic is better out of box , lg after calibration and overall .

As explained in the video they were in filmmaker (professional for the Sony).

second this!

Very good picture + very good sound vs. Very Very good picture + bad sound. I would pick the a80l, it'll be the better experience overall I think.

@@bilalbiriri6596 I believe the reason I am also doubting about the a80L is because I’ve read some reviews about it being the most dim OLED tv and that it apparently has aggressive dimming in game mode. In the store, Sony also had a very bad choice for demo video showing on the screen v.s. an LG and Samsung which really popped up and had that 3D effect.

Those are demonstrated in the video. Less crushing near black and mildly less ABL.

You won't even notice a difference, unless they were side by side. Once you start watching a show or movie you will enjoy it the same on either TV. I have an A95K and an A80J. The A95K has a better picture, but I watch all my movies on the A80J, because it's larger. I don't even notice or miss any PQ differences.

​@@micker9830I have a 65" A80J. Thanks for aliviating what FOMO I have 😂

Yes g3 is mid tier last year model 😢

G4 isn't worth the price you'd be better off waiting for a bigger jump for the cost difference between the two

they probably could do this but wont. This is how they get you to buy the newer model. It is now a selling feature :(

I'll be doing a lot more testing soon. Unfortunately didn't have time for any SDR.

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Did you purchase one already? 83”?

have you turned off reality creation?

@@techsamurai11yep. I fully played with every setting and every combination of settings

G4 if gaming is more important or TV is in a bright room (e.g. daylight) A95L if gaming is less important and older SDR, non-4k content id more important

Consoles media players aren't great, and it's just a bandwidth limitation. Not from the TV.

@@ClassyTechCalibrations got the answer form the best! Thanks brother

That's really subjective but I'd say with high interpolation LG and Samsung have less artifacts than Sony.

@@ClassyTechCalibrations classy I thought Sony had the best motion (overall), isn't that the case anymore?

No way you would notice a difference lol. These comparisons are like looking at something with a magnifying glass. Actually using the TV to watch a show or movie, you would never notice or miss any differences. The A95L is better in some areas.

LG offers much better deals in Europe, a 83" G4 for the same price of a 77 A95L could likely make me wanna forget about QD Oled. lol

Exactly,! I think sony’s prices in Europe and the UK are ridiculous. Absolutely love the A95L but wouldn’t hesitate to get an 83 inch instead of a 77.

@@Manuel.Medellin i have bought the lg g3 77 inch last year. its a bit scam. normally they upgrade the proccessor every year 1 generation up. this year 2 generations. so its a like a 2025 model. if i know that. i was not buying the lg g3. and was waiting for the lg g4

@@jantjedewaal i think they’re doing that with the C4 and the C5 will probably have the G4 processor. Sony are overpriced, but their ‘master series’ definitely stays top of the line for more than a year.

Probably more than 5-6 years ; tvs don't compete with monitors for gaming specs .

@@fullhd5277 Any source on that? TCL has been pushing 4K 240 Hz already (although with halved vertical res I believe) and Samsung is pushing their outrageously expensive MicroLED to 240 Hz. LG OLEDs have also supported proper 4K 120 Hz via HDMI 2.1 earlier than the monitor market, so your statement doesn’t hold true there. It really only depends on LG Display or Samsung Display to push their TV panels to 240 Hz, since LG/Samsung Electronics could very easily reach that level through DSC and they already are in their monitors. Might need a more capable TV SOC as well but since those two companies are also developing them in house I don‘t see that as a hurdle. It could easily happen any year, I‘m just interested if any industry insider knows the companies‘ plans of when they‘ll actually bring it to market.

4k at 240hz is gonna be really hard to take advantage of

@@dante19890 You do need good hardware for that but not the absolute best of everything and those TVs aren't gonna be for budget buyers either. With tech like DLSS in Performance mode and Frame Gen you only need to render at 1080p and achieve a base frame rate of 70+ fps to exceed the 120 fps my G1 can currently display even in games like Cyberpunk with maxed Path Tracing with my 4090. That's the best hardware you can get of course but let's say you're playing less demanding games and you use DLSS Performance + Frame Gen as well you'd easilly get past 144 fps in quite a lot of games even with a 4070. Still a niche group of people that'll use such a rig with a TV and aim for high frame rates like these but if you want you can take advantage of it even without completely busting the bank.

Can you check please*

I know the power consumption is higher so heat being expelled from it may increase.

@@ClassyTechCalibrations Thank you for fast reply, much appreciated

1. A95L 2. G4 3. S95C yea the G3 had too many issues

@@Manuel.Medellin I have a qd oled s90c. I want to see if the G4 color can match qd oled when the reviews come out. Vincent Teoh will be reviewing and we'll see what he says. The G4 is a great tv no doubt.

@@Manuel.Medellin LG G4 OLED does not have the final software THIS IS POST-PRODUCTION AND DEMO TV , sony and samsung have a calibrated image, the lg g4 does not have a calibrated image

@@Manuel.Medellin many issues. i have no issues. great tv mate. have the latest firmware.

@@Manuel.Medellin Sony lol 😅 Blind Shootout Loser of 2023 🤷‍♂️

I agree but they seem intent on continuing to push it until they get an RGB OLED/microLED alternative. They had a 3700 nit WOLED prototype behind closed doors at CES.

G series includes 5 year panel warranty.

LG G4 OLED does not have the final software THIS IS POST-PRODUCTION AND DEMO TV , sony and samsung have a calibrated image, the lg g4 does not have a calibrated image

LOL your getting rid of that TV less than a year?

@@vlcthefish God no. Moving it to the bedroom

@user-pu2ro8ok3r that's why I'm even more impressed. No calibrators where I live so accuracy out of the box is essential

Vincent’s video (and even this one) say it’s been improved substantially

It should say "Join" near the subscribe button.

@@ClassyTechCalibrations it’s not showing up in the KZfaq app on the iPhone. Tried pulling it up in safari on my phone and not there either. Strange. Hope you’re not missing out on members because of a bug.

@@TaylorCFP oh, yeah iPhone is different. On Safari when you go to the channel press the "aA" on the bottom left and should be able to open in desktop browser and see the join button.

Why do you need to change tv every year? G3 is still top notch, you will notice no difference lol

Here are the best ways to achieve that. Use contrast enhancer on high, set gamma to bt 1886 or 2.4. Reduce the brightness, force bt2020 on sdr with quantum tvs settings, turn on ai picture pro. My c1 looks insanely 3d with these settings to the point where it may scare you in some scenes because it looks like the objects are being thrown straight at your face. Try these settings and let me know and yes I saw the s90c and it's very flat looking unfortunately in a bright room. But those are with stock settings and I think the 3d depth can definitely be improved on it aswell if you follow my above settings! BTW how is the 3d effect of your s90c in a dark room compared to your cx? The g4 is the most 3d looking tv in the world right now as the processor is built to make the picture look more 3d.

No contest though really. I’m sure x95R will be a great tv but micro contrast is still OLED domain and LG processing makes it 3D like

LG G4 OLED does not have the final software THIS IS POST-PRODUCTION AND DEMO TV , sony and samsung have a calibrated image, the lg g4 does not have a calibrated image

As long as they stick with WOLED, that's hardly gonna happen, unfortunately.

@MrBritishComedy maybe that true but LG G4 is the closest TV to perfect now Sony A95L there's a noticeable delay in picture processing which can lead to lips sync issue also 2 HDMI2.1 only G4 with 5 years warranty dynamic cinematic movements LG G4 is the complete package this year

@@MrBritishComedywhite subpixel is needed for purest white highlights don’t be a blind qd cultist.

I want the 83" size so I'am really struggling to pick a 77" A95L over this one. You are getting less TV with the Sony...but yea Upscaling and Sound would still likely be better, as well as Google TV and that Premium Bravia experience. I'am split right now 😵‍💫

@@Manuel.Medellin Good for you this year 83" is MLA on the G4

This is the real question tbh

On home cinema .

Not yet, I was at LG HQ in NJ.

I agree, only if you go up in size. Otherwise hold out another year or two for the next big jump.

​@ClassyTechCalibrations coming from a G2 55 inch. Worth the upgrade to 55 inch G4. 75% PC Gaming. 25% Streaming and 4k Blueray?

Hell no…. I changed from a 2019 Panasonic GZW2004 to a s95c now and thats not a huuuuge Upgrade. G3 to G4 isnt worth at all. G2 to G3 was a much bigger gap

@@francis147741 G2 is still a great TV. Hold out another year or two.

It's one of the motion interpolation settings. It'll increase input lag noticeably if you disable allm.

HDTVTest said that you have to disable ALLM to make use of motion interpolation.

@@MirelRC edited the comment. You can but not with low input lag.

@@ClassyTechCalibrations yeah. That's the disadvantage

TV's are always getting better. and every year will make a difference. Its better to save the $1500 and in a few years it won't burn as bad to upgrade. Same concept with computers. side by sides fu*k our perception but once you get a G3 you'll be blown away and won't even think about something else.

@@305Nick Thanks, you just completely convinced me to go with the G4 this holiday. Very rational points 👍

ABL is reduced not getting worse.

idk Sony is still the best for upscaling, but this year LG seems to be right up there.

LG G4 OLED does not have the final software , sony and samsung have a calibrated image, the lg g4 does not have a calibrated image

Not really 🤷‍♂️ its possibly the best of those four, but its not worth the extra money at the moment

S95c was trash with black screen dropouts during gaming Same as my old ks8000 had

@johanmelis12 Nah clearly better.

S95C is third place here lol.

@@calisfinestdemon1703 First place*

​@@johanmelis12 I have the S95C since last year. I play games 8-10 hours straight at 4k 144hz with an RTX 4090 without a single screen dropout. Color volume and color brightness still better than the G4.

I tried grabbing one while it was on sale for $1799 but it’s at $1,999 now.

i dont think so. c4 has same processor as 2023 models. a9 processor. lg g4 a11. the skipped a generation this year. so its you get a 2025 model. because normally it will one step up in processing every year!