its always great hearing from someone who was there behind the curtain :3

Thanks for telling us! very interesting

So they were a lot like the stick in and F-16?

What happened after the lay off? Providing for a family after something like that must be horrifying.

Spaceballs: The PC Periperal

Where's the proof?

Interesting

Callan Antlej i read that as spongebob 360 🤦‍♂️

@@indoraptor6094 Let's play HL1 with SpongeBob 360

@@vappyenjoyer24 I can only imagine manipulating a miniature Spongebob to control Half-Life

A Christmas in January!

Osmosis Jones christmassssss........;)

As told by Clint "Strafemaster" Basinger

It brings up an important question. Is this video Oddtales or Techware? EDIT: This might of exaggerated the importance of this question.

2 in 1!

Adaptation-ception!

...So you can *adapt* to any situation..

😂😂😂😂

Apple's logic

Son...you're adopted

the iphone can never compared to a computer lol ....its to restricted and locked down ... most the older pdas in lgr videos can do simple things latest iphone cant do ..... change themes and customize menus , access file manager, memory card....send files via bluetooth , sideload apps ,, use windows explorer and access the device as mass storage ..i ..in 2050 the iPhone 52 will possibly allow ui customization altho i wouldnt bank on it :D

Danny B Tech ok nerd, ruin the simple joke

@@dannyBtech too* :p

@@dannyBtech Iphones can process videos and do work the same as a workstation pc is what he meant Such as editing 4k video.

@@Erythrox21 Did you really just call a viewer of this channel a nerd? WHAT A NICE COMPLIMENT!

I am the Gatekeeper!

Totally naming my next ESO character Strafe Master.

@@Dave_Rice I am the Juggernaut.

Yep, I heard it. ALL OF YOU HEARD IT!

Now LGR can go pro in CS2 😂

OH YESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's a petition I could get behind.

I'd sign that petition.

The 3DConnexion drivers and software package for their current devices ("3dxware") still have the chicken demo :D

I want to live in the alternate dimension where Chicken Demos became the standard way to test one's devices...

It's neon to let you know it's technology from the future! Or a mountain dew type product.

lol yes. thankfully, we've moved past that. It'll probably come back around at some point, though. :-/

I can't stand green packaging and green colored things except plants and vegetables. There's something unnatural about a green colored artificial object

Reminds me of the advertising for Earthbound.... ugh.

Because blue barf on black will never age. 🤣

You're not! I love watching it at night, it's so good.

I've actually put it on autoplay and fell asleep to them. Guy's voice is soothing.

Me right now at 2am

I watch on the toilet

I could go to sleep just listening to clint's voice

For real, it came to the world way before its time. If it had popped out around 2010, with cheaper and more efficient tech under the hood, I think it would have hit at least a stable niche in 3D software such as Blender.

​@@DinnerForkTongue The professional version of this still exists though. And it's niche is precisely that; CAD and 3d software: www.3dconnexion.eu/ Same company as mentioned in the video as having bought the technology. So in fact these are the direct descendants of that device, it's just they completely gave up on the consumer market and focused entirely on a professional audience.

I dunno, it seems like it's just stacking too many functions onto a single control surface. (At least for an action game controller; not doubting it's great for slow-paced business use.) And in particular, it's a control surface underneath 90% of people's off-hand. No wonder Clint's wrist was getting so tired. That thing was demanding he use his left hand with a ton of precision, while using his right hand almost entirely to grip. That's totally backwards. OTOH, I could see this being a godsend for lefties.

@@KuraIthys Which was the right move, I'd say.

@@jasonblalock4429 Don't know if you know what you're trying to talk about with some sort of self-bestowed authority.

lol you must be new here welcome to the internet XD

had that been the official tagline, this thing would've sold.

Hahahahaha, good one... 😅

@@vlc-cosplayer no. I will google it

Kizzabell you never came back. Was it that good?

Yashiro Nanakase that's honestly a genius idea

You cant do the up and down on both control sticks, theyd need a different input

i want katamari damacy, but you actually have to somersault to control it. it would be a nightmare, but worth every penny.

@@thomasjenkins7506 People would die

@@michaelg2502 only a few.

@Rick James5678 Now, if it says "Designed for Windows Me", RUN AWAY.

To tell the truth, I thought it was LGR having fun with the video. :)

Sounds like Mr. Peanut Butter from BoJack Horseman

Descent is still one of my favorite games! i wanted one of these so bad to play Descent! But i never saw one in my small area in Ohio.

And without knowing this thing existed here I was thinking of hooking up a 3dconnexion spacemouce for decent 2

Nah, that thing was fine, you just need to hold it horizontally. (not vertical) Then you would push the ball away from you to go forward, pull it towards you to back up. I rocked that controller back in the day.

@@NudeJawn How does it compare to a joystick with twist handle or a controller with motion sensors? Actually motion sensors allow for motions and rotations alongside all three axis so maybe a motion controller like an Oculus Touch or a Switch Joy-Con would be a very interesting peripheral for CAD applications in particular. What is your opinion on that?

@@Katzelle3 The controller was very robust feeling. with one ball you could what 2 analog sticks do. At the time, many people played FPS with out a mouse. You did not have to aim up or down in many games. . IT is far superior to a D pad, with 2 buttons. (for fps)

Reminds me of the dev 3d gun in the Boneworks

@@Katzelle3 Look out for the Razer Hydra, cool concept, some of that stuff ended up in VR sets, but probably with a very different implementation. IMUs are getting cheaper and more accurate each year and probably a lot of old tech used in things like the Wii Motion, PlayStation Move and Razer Hydra may have become obsolete by now... or competitors may just want to avoid whatever patents are still in force for those older iterations, either because the licensing cost is too high or the other company wants to force competition out of that segment, even if they essentially abandoned that segment since then. Also, look for GyroGaming and JoyShockMapper, people have been combining stick and gyro inputs for greater accuracy in FPS games, but AFAIK this is still restricted to PC games only.

Na you just hallucinated that neighbor.

Or maybe you are just the hallucination of your neighbour? 🤔

@@paulgascoigne5343 maybe we are all hallucinations caused by someone's delusion! 😂

Maybe we are all rubber balls in extradimensional game controllers.

Really, that's awesome. That came all the way from the 90's!

Same here for Game Dev, it's rad!

Working for the company right now. So glad LGR covered this. We have one in our historic devices collection but I've never had the chance to try it out. The chicken is great! Check out the jet too if you haven't.

Same, but if the CAD software is well designed... it is actually quite useless. Good that SolidWorks is not!

@@FroggyMosh The tech and concept may have, but 3dConnexion still makes these devices and they are fantastic. ( i also use this ) Definitely recommended for CAD or any 3d environment.

Actually yeah, didn't think of that at all but that would be pretty excellent.

Xybots

Man, going back further this would have been great for Centipede.

Heavy Barrell

Sinistar wasn't quite the same but this might be an ok controller for it.

Technically speaking, it doesn't have ANY Z-Axis.

@@spartanforce7 Im still trying to comprehend how I never realized that as a child!

@@spartanforce7 Or maybe more

@@spartanforce7 flying cacodemons, what about that or blocking ceilings some monsters cannot go under the lowered ceilings

@@Saver310 Not a coder here, but I assume it's the same as a game like Pokemon where there are just certain paths labeled as unpassable.

@@swat37 Google is your (heavily neglected) friend.

z inputs in Street Fighter

@@swat37 It's an input for Geese Howard's Raging Storm attack in some of the Fatal Fury and King of Fighters games. It requires you to (assuming you're facing right) input down left, right, down right, down, down left, left, and down right+punch very quickly and it's very easy to screw up by accidentally hitting up left or up right and end up jumping, or by not getting all the way to the left position before swinging to down right which simply causes the move to not come out. Many later games have simplified the input or added additional input options such as starting left and rolling the stick counter clockwise to right, then clockwise back to left, then down right+punch, and I believe one game even lets you do two hadoken inputs+punch. The original input is known as the pretzel because it looks a lot like a pretzel if you draw it out starting from the bottom left nub and looping all the way around in one continuous motion until you hit the bottom right nub.

Z motion is the worst explanation I've ever seen Capcom give when it's actually just pushing forward and then quickly inputting a fireball

@Harri Kirvesniemi flick forward then quarter circle forward, try it. Quarter Circle Forward is shorthanded by fireball or QCF

I don't think Stadia is pointless. Maybe little ahead of it's time and not done correctly. The system needs ~0 latency on controls and monthly subscription to play all the games like Netflix. Sadly Stadia has neither.

Why would anyone pay a monthly subscription for Stadia? My wifi isn't really that fast, and we've already dropped Netflix here because they kept jumping the price

@@sh-bf7bv uP

*pointless for customers

@@aidancommenting Just have it as an option, similar to Viz and some other companies.

It's called an Xbox controller. (Or PlayStation or Stadia)

​@@nthgth Not really, the Space Orb offers 6 degrees of freedom, while dual stick controllers give you only 4 degrees of freedom, unless you're counting in the gyros built in some of them, but not many games take advantage of them and you have to install and configure third party software* if you really want to take advantage of them on a PC. This is more like the Spaceball, SpaceMouse, Logitech Cyberman, Razer Hydra and so on. The Razer Hydra looked really neat, but I guess it didn't become a huge hit due to the same chicken and egg issue that such awkward innovative tech face: users don't want to invest in a new, expensive input device that isn't really supported by many games and offer almost no tangible benefit for most games, or has a steep learning curve before you have an advantage with it. If there are no users, no studios will design their games to fully take advantage of such tech either. We've been seeing the same thing over again with VR. Sure, there are some VR games that look really fun, but the tech is still a bit cluncky and expensive. It will still take quite a while before it becomes mainstream. * search GyroGaming / JoyShockMapper if you're interested in that, it could totally eliminate or even flip the advantage keyboard&mouse players have over joystick players on FPS games and solve the cross-platform multiplayer issue for good, if only consoles implemented that kind of stuff...

I was just thinking that the main problem with it looks to be the shape of the back of the controller and that this style tech sounds like it'd be excellent for flying games and the like.

the Spaceorb and the Virtual IO I-Glasses are the two gadgets I miss most from the '90s. Both kinda awful, but damn I miss 'em.

It was amazingly good for instant 180 swivel-fire-jump combos.

in 2019? no way lol

Along came analogs to render it obsolete. No way this thing is useful in the modern era.

@@BigPuddin Of course, but back in the day this was almost like cheating...lol. Like thise Aimbots we have today. I always appreciate new pieces of tech that make gaming easier or smoother.

@@jiminverness Indeed....that was one of the highlighted benefits if using it for FPS shooters...it gave you a big edge.

Aesthetic Supra surgeon kitty profile pic. I love it.

awesome, smash master

Muahaphh

Account checks out.

Or late at night after work! :D

There has been a few attempts to replicate this kind of tech a bit cheaper for a while, but I don't recall ever seeing one of those projects reach a "production" stage where anyone with a 3D printer and basic electronics skills can build their own, sadly. Of course, professional CAD products are still out there, but they're quite expensive and the API seems to be proprietary.

Oh force feedback.. That is a retro-futuristic tech I want making a comeback..

Dude! I remember my brother and I holding a demo version of it at a Babbages and it was like swinging itself around like a lightsaber and rumbling like a helicopter and it blew our minds! We didn't have modern PC games at the time so I assumed everyone had one but apparently it never really took off?? Has LGR done a video on it yet?

The closest thing we have to force feedback is console pads (vibration motors are the next logical step in force feedback, anyway).

@@greysky1252 Woah, I remember that exact helicopter demo. Blew my mind as a kid but definitely couldn't afford one, much less a computer good enough to play games that supported it.

@@Code7Unltd You are forgetting about Force Feedback wheels. They provide real tangible motion, instead of just a 'buzz' like an Xbox/Playstation controller.

We use them all the time at work. Space Mouse Pro that is.

The SpaceMouse and SketchUp got me through architecture school :)

I had one of these back in the day (still in storage somewhere) and use a spacenavigator still whenever possible. Star Citizen for eg, works great for. Hell of a learning curve using these devices for games, that most reviewers - even now it seems - use way too firm a touch on.

Have bought one too to use as joystick many years back, as it was mentioned in a game. Indeed, it sucks, though if you tweak it to no end, it might work. But, I'll use it only for 3D model things now, to move the camera.

It also works great in virtual worlds such as Second Life.

thedungeondelver when was that? I was in the Army 10 years and never saw anything close to this.

@@MagMan4x4 I was a contractor in Florida working on OneSAF and other projects, this was not in the field. Also this was around 2001/early 2002.

You probably cant I wonder if people could find that RTS, that'd be neat

@@tydyman2003 Understand though it wasn't a game with a win state, this was military simulation. It was about visualization, not play.

Was it VBS? Virtual Battlespace, I think is what it stands for.

The password is 1 2 3 4

louis tournas Hey! That’s the password on my luggage!

Not to be confused with Spaceballs!(tm) The Flamethrower

This controller was part of the search for more money.

I love the fact they included all that merch in the movie because they agreed to not release any. All an agreement with Lucas.

:))

Wasn't there a Saturn controller with this on it?

jnerdsblog no, it was a joystick on the official 3D controller.

It's basically what consoles were doing at the time, analog sticks, but with a twist

@@nthgth because they were a new concept, analog sticks for 3D games were being experimented on those consoles.

i remember the giant track ball mouses and had one for gaming

Was anyone else here into AlphaWorld in 1995? It was pretty cool proto "Second Life" style virtual space. The experience got me to buy a used SGI Indy in year 2000, mainly because it came with a built in VRML editor. In comparison to what 3D modellers and level editors were back then, VRML editor was pretty reminiscent of environment building as we know it today from Unity or UE4. And you could just drop the .wrl file on the web to have people visit your 3D spaces. Thought for sure something like this would replace IRC, newsgroups and other arcane forms of online spaces, but nah, 20y later only real new online experiences that's come about were youtube and social media (SGI Indy even came with a webcam and online video conferencing already in 1993). Though, regarding world building, learned pretty quickly it requires a bit more than knowhow and will to build an appealing virtual environment (like imagination), only thing I ever really modelled and shared was my apartment. :)

No, he's just holding it wrong. You don't grip the ball. You hold the actual controller & move the ball with your fingertips. The manual clearly tells you exactly how to hold this. He obviously just didn't read it. I own one in excellent condition to this day that was purchased back in the 90s when they first came out. If he continues to use it the way he holds it here he'll both break it & require carpal tunnel surgery.

Controllers having the same-ish layout is a good thing. It helps create standards.

That almost sounds like the modern 3D Connexion devices. Except that they are not orbs anymore. And they are not meant for gaming. But you will almost certainly see one of these devices on a desk of someone that does 3D/CAD.

Yeah, moving away from the orb honestly sounds like a massive improvement. For gaming, I think a stick instead of a ball, with a base to either leverage against or strap to your leg would work pretty well. And you could have the other hand on a keyboard too.

@@absalomdraconis Preferably with a twist input.

@@DinnerForkTongue : Well, yes, but this thing already does twist input, so that goes without saying.

Would one of those SGI, HP or IBM versions pictured toward the beginning of the video do what you’re describing?

Yes,true! I find it also funny that 3DConexxion is also the company behind these spaceballs controllers. You can see them on their history page in the back: www.3dconnexion.eu/company/history.html

I freakin' love my steam controller, to me it's like the perfect AIO controller.

I don't think so, since the ball controls movement and camera at the same time, I mean, you could probably get used to it but I doubt your proficiency in game would be worth the effort. Is nice to see steam controller users, such underrated device, I can literally play anything with it, from platformers to shooters.

Steam controller user here, represent!

Fun fact: you can plug the thing in without drivers nd it'll act like a mouse right out of the box--even on Linux!

I use my old Spaceball 5000 for such, you'll want to look up an open source program called " SX2VJOY " it will allow you to use the SpaceExplorer and other 3d "mice" for gaming..overall they can be kinda handy.

@@reignick1133 SV2JOY? Sweet, didn't know that existed. I spent over an hour today trying to get the XML rubbish configured for joystick input.

@John Smith Right for the cock joke! I knew I could depend on the community. More realistically you'd be using this thing in tandem with mouse or keyboard, which is what I was ACTUALLY getting at.

@@thekrautist mostly the elite dangerous community and strangely the star citizen community have been goofing around with such , I tried using Glove PIE but that was rather limited though SX2VJOY and Vjoy make it pretty easy to set up the controller for most games / applications.

@@reignick1133 That makes sense. Star Citizen was pushing the whole 6-DOF control scheme thing pretty hard. Plenty of people have dual joystick setups for that game alone, or joystick and mouse... But when thinking about dual joystick setups it became obvious pretty quickly that it's not really so natural to map translation control to rotational axes... One of these looks like a pretty good solution for that, so I'm not surprised people tried it. Really any game with support for 6-DOF control might benefit from this...

Which Sony mastered and provided the template for every other successful console moving forward.

@@Clay3613 successful doesn't always mean optimal. The dual shock style gamepads are still handicapping the game design progress.

@@InsidiousOne examples?

Dualshocks are bad for shooters and fighters.

leeaaannn into it.

I forgot about the goofy horns in the game. My computer wasn't good enough to run it at high frame rates, but driving games were the only ones I could play without getting frustrated with and stopping.

Boogey Van is doing it in the air! Now for a ride of a different sort. Hard work pays off for Monster Patrol!

You can actually get a 6 axis mouse for relatively cheap (below 200 usd) they look like those lock dials on a safe.

Its worth it, I use the crap out of mine

I never knew how much I wanted to be called StrafeMaster

It was impressive how he mastered that strafe.

No. There can be only one... per purchase. Go buy your own.

The beginning of it reminds me of the music from Kingsfield.