LGR Oddware - X10: MS-DOS Smart Home Automation!

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6 жыл бұрын

Using an IBM PC AT to control the lights in your house? YEP. Enjoy this history, setup, and demonstration of one of the X-10 Powerhouse and the HAL 2000 voice-controlled assistant!
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@BrokenSet
@BrokenSet 6 жыл бұрын
Little did Clint know, in the house two blocks down, Mr. Cruthers's life support shut off seemingly without reason, killing him instantly.
@Renovatio2
@Renovatio2 6 жыл бұрын
LOL. I really want you to write children's stories.
@GeoStreber
@GeoStreber 6 жыл бұрын
...and that's how Wesley ended up on the Enterprise.
@MrHack4never
@MrHack4never 6 жыл бұрын
Why would LIFE SUPPORT be on a switch? And doesn't life support equipment generally have independent backup power?
@BrokenSet
@BrokenSet 6 жыл бұрын
That's the question Mr. Cruthers's grieving widow asked herself at the funeral.
@MrHack4never
@MrHack4never 6 жыл бұрын
And then ms. Cruthers spent the rest of her life, thinking about how she could have saved her husband by not having him connected to a switched outlet, eventually dying by leaving her gas stove on, and lighting a cigarette THE END
@rushnerd
@rushnerd 6 жыл бұрын
"Please say yes or no." Hal isn't amused.
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 6 жыл бұрын
"I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Clint"
@youmukonpaku3168
@youmukonpaku3168 6 жыл бұрын
I want to press the like button, but it's at 486...
@LeeDee5
@LeeDee5 6 жыл бұрын
HAL sounded so sad wen LGR said "No!"
@benanderson4487
@benanderson4487 6 жыл бұрын
Yes pls
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqw
@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqw 4 жыл бұрын
Canceel
@xamanto
@xamanto 6 жыл бұрын
>hook HAL up to the garage door >call the garage "pod bay" >stuck outside
@CardboardSliver
@CardboardSliver 4 жыл бұрын
I would so do that.
@RUBBER_BULLET
@RUBBER_BULLET 4 жыл бұрын
@Max William Lauf When you shut it down it should start singing 'Daisy, Daisy...'
@definitely_notme4112
@definitely_notme4112 4 жыл бұрын
Kostantinos Kanelopoulos his name is clint
@BobofWOGGLE
@BobofWOGGLE 6 жыл бұрын
Love how confused HAL gets at the end there. "Please say yes or no."
@Squivels
@Squivels 6 жыл бұрын
Oh poor 90's voice recognition, it seems like he's really trying haha
@leisergeist
@leisergeist 6 жыл бұрын
He's doing his best!
@urdnal
@urdnal 6 жыл бұрын
mondayfridaywednesdayfriday at 12 PM turn. On desklamp?
@MackyClemen
@MackyClemen 6 жыл бұрын
urdnal _please say yes or no_
@silasmcgee3647
@silasmcgee3647 6 жыл бұрын
Macky Clemen im fucking dead!😂😂😂😅
@me67galaxylife
@me67galaxylife 2 жыл бұрын
i mean it wasn't programmed to understand bullshit
@Grim2
@Grim2 6 жыл бұрын
Hal 2000: "Pirated software detected. Your house will now burn."
@rkan2
@rkan2 6 жыл бұрын
Suddenly your non-material violation of laws turns in to material!
@worldofretrogameplay6963
@worldofretrogameplay6963 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! Your comment made me laugh.
@Chosen1Creator
@Chosen1Creator 6 жыл бұрын
I have turned on top left stove burner. NO! I have turned on all stove burners. Oh good grief!
@30AndHatingIt
@30AndHatingIt 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Hal would burn my house down... but my buddy from the northtowns with his $15k+ in pirated software... he'd be fucked.
@TaylorBlack0
@TaylorBlack0 4 жыл бұрын
"What is the meaning of life?" *beep* "Oh."
@x5nash870
@x5nash870 3 жыл бұрын
that beep has encoded secret encrypted data from god
@tiaxanderson9725
@tiaxanderson9725 6 жыл бұрын
LGR: "Well anyway, thanks for all the help HAL, it's been a blast." HAL: "Monday, Friday, Wednesday, Friday at 12 PM; turn on this lamp?" LRG *Khahahahahahaha-hah aahahaha* HAL: "Please say yes or no." LGR *EHAHAHAHAHA* "-no!" HAL: "Cancelled" :(
@OpenKeith
@OpenKeith 5 жыл бұрын
The TV Guide is open *oh good grief*
@SJLtalentpicks
@SJLtalentpicks 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe it even did that on purpose to this LGR guy because of smelling some software piracy there...? ;-)
@marlonguzman2713
@marlonguzman2713 5 жыл бұрын
It was trying to fulfill his role in life, hall realized that he was about to go back to the box and tried his best to be useful with what it knew but instead it received a laugh :(
@Qrama
@Qrama 5 жыл бұрын
Sad HAL :'(
@ThePhantomSafetyPin
@ThePhantomSafetyPin 5 жыл бұрын
I have never been so sad for a software program in my life.
@sylvoen
@sylvoen 6 жыл бұрын
"what is the meaning of life" *glitches*
@owlredshift
@owlredshift 6 жыл бұрын
"This statement is false" *explosion*
@futuredirector999
@futuredirector999 6 жыл бұрын
What doth life
@shukterhousejive
@shukterhousejive 6 жыл бұрын
He put too big a load into his 'puter hole
@skindreads
@skindreads 6 жыл бұрын
Same
@ZenterSwag
@ZenterSwag 6 жыл бұрын
*boop*
@Chalky.
@Chalky. 6 жыл бұрын
If he doesn't make another video we know he's pissed off HAL.
@hanro50
@hanro50 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Marky, I can't let you do that Why do you want to divide by zero again anyway
@JesusisJesus
@JesusisJesus 6 жыл бұрын
HAL - Open the pod bay doors.
@tomcombe4813
@tomcombe4813 6 жыл бұрын
I am afraid that i can't let you do that Clint
@MrHack4never
@MrHack4never 6 жыл бұрын
@Marky Said the person with the HAL-eye as an profile image...
@BeatlesCuber
@BeatlesCuber 6 жыл бұрын
MrHack4never exactly my thoughts.
@TheMax0005
@TheMax0005 4 жыл бұрын
"Install it, load it, test it, Run it. Hum, sounds like a Daft Punk song" I lost it, lol
@tahanneloc10
@tahanneloc10 5 жыл бұрын
18:01 LGR: "What is the meaning of life?" HAL: "blick" (half beep, half click?) LGR: "ohhh :(" LOL
@Fuzy2K
@Fuzy2K 5 жыл бұрын
I *know* I've heard that sound somewhere else... Maybe a game? An old PDA? I can't remember...
@Herobox-ju4zd
@Herobox-ju4zd 6 жыл бұрын
You should build a "house of the future" which is more modern than the average house today using only 80's technology.
@milklordnomadic
@milklordnomadic 6 жыл бұрын
Herobox 1248 facts
@LGR
@LGR 6 жыл бұрын
Now that would be a fun project.
@michelangelop3923
@michelangelop3923 6 жыл бұрын
Lazy Game Reviews please do it.
@scruffythejanitor1969
@scruffythejanitor1969 6 жыл бұрын
If you do this, I will donate to the cause. That would be incredible.
@LotoTheHero
@LotoTheHero 6 жыл бұрын
Yessss!!!!
@E3kHatena
@E3kHatena 6 жыл бұрын
2001: A Space Odyssey would be a lot different with this HAL. "Open the pod bay doors, HAL." "Monday Friday Wednesday Friday shut off this lamp?? Please say yes or no."
@mroxannevh
@mroxannevh 6 жыл бұрын
Omg I'm busting up at this comment
@GaMMERKitten
@GaMMERKitten 6 жыл бұрын
LOL
@ThePhantomSafetyPin
@ThePhantomSafetyPin 5 жыл бұрын
"HAL, no!" "... Canceled. :c"
@Majo2501
@Majo2501 5 жыл бұрын
yes
@Sammie1053
@Sammie1053 4 жыл бұрын
"Opening pod bay doors in *SEVEN Minutes.* "
@LazerLord10
@LazerLord10 4 жыл бұрын
Now I just want to automate my house with my spare C64.
@erc3338
@erc3338 3 жыл бұрын
...You have a spare?
@Ralph-yn3gr
@Ralph-yn3gr 2 жыл бұрын
I've automated some of my Halloween decorations with my CoCo. It works pretty well, although you can't plug modules into power strips. The circuit breaker blocks the signal.
@yukikofujiwara2144
@yukikofujiwara2144 Жыл бұрын
Everyone has a spare C64, right? _Right?_
@nicolasrobbe9303
@nicolasrobbe9303 6 жыл бұрын
Technically dimming the lamp to 50% works, it emits 50% of its normal light as it's at 100% power 50% of the time xD
@greggv8
@greggv8 4 жыл бұрын
@@tripplefives1402 I bought some LED 'filament' bulbs for two 10 arm chandeliers. Got them for 25 cents each on clearance at WalMart. 10 of them 40W equivalent dimable, 10 of them 25W equivalent non-dimable. Wowza! BRIGHT. Normally they're supposed to use 10 15W bulbs. The kitchen dining area now has plenty of light while the dining table in the living room has adjustable light from mood lighting to OMG I almost need a welding helmet bright.
@xj-vn4eo
@xj-vn4eo 4 жыл бұрын
theNWdigital Agreed. Pulse width modulation. I could not recall PWM term specifically, but I remember the concept when I watched the video.
@TheRealAlas
@TheRealAlas 4 жыл бұрын
The thing works as expected it's just that LED lights weren't mainstream at the time. Put on an old school light bulb and with a few (very loud) keystrokes on your IBM you can impress your date by programming the mood to 'romantic'.
@jondonnelly4831
@jondonnelly4831 4 жыл бұрын
I can see where 100% power 50% of the time could be abused, depending on the cycle rate.
@finonevado8891
@finonevado8891 4 жыл бұрын
Ecks dee
@MerryBytes
@MerryBytes 6 жыл бұрын
Still more trustworthy than Alexa, I bet. It's surprising to see Oddware that actually does its advertised job so well.
@blshouse
@blshouse 6 жыл бұрын
Alexa has amazing easter eggs though. Ask her if the cake is a lie, instance.
@tomwes8390
@tomwes8390 6 жыл бұрын
MerryBytes Also ALOT more privacy than todays "install NSA microphones in your house for easier living"
@TheMohawkNinja
@TheMohawkNinja 6 жыл бұрын
+MerryBytes You should never trust any hardware, whether it's from the 60's or the future. They are all equally capable of doing things you don't want them to do. The only reason people perceive older hardware as more trustworthy is that we know that in the modern age the government has been known to do low-level data mining on personal information, but the fact of the matter is, is that with Communist paranoia during the Cold War, electronic bugs that ACTUALLY spy on you (the NSA doesn't do this if you actually do some research) were far more likely to happen. Plus, Alexa has nigh infinite more capability given she is connected to the Internet.
@critical2210
@critical2210 6 жыл бұрын
Bryan Shouse ask me if the cake is a lie son.
@kingjohn6519
@kingjohn6519 6 жыл бұрын
Think that one is called AI but could be mistaken lol
@ShadeyClaymore
@ShadeyClaymore 6 жыл бұрын
I think its time for a "Monday Friday Wednesday Friday 12 pm turn on desk lamp?"T Shirt.
@draketungsten74
@draketungsten74 6 жыл бұрын
Shadey Claymore with wood grain!
@effluviah7544
@effluviah7544 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I would buy this shirt if at all possible.
@mystica-subs
@mystica-subs 6 жыл бұрын
My grandfather gave me a whole set of Radio Shack Plug'n'Power modules and remote for Christmas in 1991. I loved it, and it got a good decade of use before we moved. Rest In Peace grandpa Ken, you were the reason I now am engrossed with electronics and computing.
@ScottDuensing
@ScottDuensing 6 жыл бұрын
I've got HAL2000 here somewhere with their hardware voice board and extra voices. It really was like Alexa for the 90s. Had the house wired so every phone went through HAL before it went to AT&T. You could grab any handset and say things like, "HAL, remind me to buy rum." When it was time to go to the store, you'd say "Print my shopping list". It announced callers, screened calls, played music, looked up weather, sports scores, local news, and a ton more. He was a bit expensive though. My "free gift" back in about '97 when I bought HAL was a freakin' satellite TV setup!
@em84c
@em84c 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking you must of been rich!
@mwb52888
@mwb52888 Жыл бұрын
Nice story man...
@ScottDuensing
@ScottDuensing Жыл бұрын
@@em84c just didn't have kids yet!
@RichBordoni
@RichBordoni Жыл бұрын
That's awesome 🙂
@mooniejohnson
@mooniejohnson 6 жыл бұрын
“Ghetto Strobelight” would be a great name for a funk band.
@ziprock
@ziprock 6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, I'm apprenticing as an electrician and the x10 is mentioned in one of my textbooks lol
@Yosef9438
@Yosef9438 4 жыл бұрын
Textbooks are a little dated, eh?
@SlavTiger
@SlavTiger 4 жыл бұрын
what book?
@TSimchak
@TSimchak 4 жыл бұрын
It'll work with Alexa or Google Home. All still relevant.
@aguynamedbailey2102
@aguynamedbailey2102 4 жыл бұрын
Same! Reverse double hert systems are so cool. Old school tech can be so interesting.
@CLK944
@CLK944 6 жыл бұрын
Remember when we used to find any product with "2000" in it so futuristic
@EivindFalken
@EivindFalken 5 жыл бұрын
ay ,remember Beyond 2000 on Discovery ?
@swanaldmcdnld
@swanaldmcdnld 5 жыл бұрын
No
@canesvenatici9588
@canesvenatici9588 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I read a few old magazine. The millenium thing was a huge thing back then in the late 90s. I was born around that time so I don't really experience it since I was still a baby back then.
@OpenKeith
@OpenKeith 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't stopped
@EmilyTestAccount
@EmilyTestAccount 4 жыл бұрын
imagine how disappointed young me was to see an ad for something called "LASER 2000" and then it turns out it's just some late-night thing to stop smoking.
@malmstring
@malmstring 4 жыл бұрын
I could hear the sadness in HALs voice when he said "cancelled..."
@vipershark
@vipershark 6 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of stuff I love to see on Oddware; early versions of things we take for granted now. Well to be honest I can't think of an oddware video I didn't enjoy, but still.
@ryconroleplays
@ryconroleplays 6 жыл бұрын
That ending was hilarious
@csgohag
@csgohag 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you meant halarious...
@Nickelbender
@Nickelbender 5 жыл бұрын
yes it was
@JohnSmith-td7hd
@JohnSmith-td7hd 6 жыл бұрын
I love that HAL 2000 canceled every time that you said to. The worst possible scenario is it continuously hearing unissued commands and never understanding your "STOP NO" :D
@Hiznogood
@Hiznogood 5 жыл бұрын
“I’m sorry, but I can’t do that,Dave,”
@Wabeeninc
@Wabeeninc 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hiznogood "I'm running c++ saying hello world I'll beat you till you're singing about a daisy girl"
@dangerszewski9816
@dangerszewski9816 11 ай бұрын
@@Wabeeninc classic song!
@dangerszewski9816
@dangerszewski9816 6 жыл бұрын
When you said things that weren't relevant at all it got odd results but I am AMAZED given the status of voice-to-text even NOW how it would recognize legitimate commands seemingly 100% of the time! As anyone who's ever gotten so mad they start swearing at dragonsoft, then further lose their temper when it translates their tirade as "you God RAM plucking pizza ship" can attest.
@DT-dc4br
@DT-dc4br 6 жыл бұрын
HAL: What is my purpose? LGR: You turn on lights. HAL: OMG.
@Porygonal64
@Porygonal64 6 жыл бұрын
to be fair
@thundercat_pumyra
@thundercat_pumyra 6 жыл бұрын
I always found it funny at the beginning of Alien Covenant that Weyland makes David pour him a cup of tea that's sitting literally right next to the man. You spent billions developing a (near) perfect human AI just so he can pour you a cup of tea??? That's sitting right next to you??? And you wonder why he decided that humans needed killing?
@robintst
@robintst 6 жыл бұрын
User: "Alexa... say 'Hal, turn on the desk lamp.'" Alexa: **ding** "Hal, turn on the desk lamp." Hal: "Heeeyy, baby."
@CardboardSliver
@CardboardSliver 4 жыл бұрын
Tell Siri to tell Cortana to tell Google to tell Alexa to tell Hal to turn on the desk lamp
@kris_0520
@kris_0520 4 жыл бұрын
Cardboard Sliver home assisstanception
@CodecrafterArtemis
@CodecrafterArtemis 3 жыл бұрын
@@CardboardSliver "I am not an owl!"
@wakaneut
@wakaneut 6 жыл бұрын
This is actually not bad at all. It works. In today's version, when you first install, it'll be like "Contacting server. Sending your private data to server. Downloading patch 10GB..... Do you want to save your data into the cloud? If yes, please create an account..."
@davemartin8577
@davemartin8577 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a home help designed by EA 😂
@siuoleht
@siuoleht 4 жыл бұрын
It’d probably have you make an account anyway :(
@noxious_nights
@noxious_nights 4 жыл бұрын
ok boomer
@30AndHatingIt
@30AndHatingIt 4 жыл бұрын
@@noxious_nights The boomers, as bad as they were, are saints compared to our shitty generations (millenials and z's).
@diobrando2845
@diobrando2845 4 жыл бұрын
30 And Hating It *Boomer detected*
@SDPhantomGamer
@SDPhantomGamer 6 жыл бұрын
90's voice recognition at its finest.
@me67galaxylife
@me67galaxylife 2 жыл бұрын
so, surprisingly good ?
@Bucketus.Lord.of.Buckets
@Bucketus.Lord.of.Buckets 6 жыл бұрын
You should have called X10 tech support and recorded how they would react to your ancient home automation
@googaagoogaa12345678
@googaagoogaa12345678 6 жыл бұрын
hell yeah
@dijoxx
@dijoxx 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for that..
@thundercat_pumyra
@thundercat_pumyra 6 жыл бұрын
"what is the meaning of life?" Beep Oh great. Thanks a lot. Now it's going to achieve sentience and kill us all. Way to bring about the apocalypse buddy
@whiteyexotics
@whiteyexotics 6 жыл бұрын
When Clint cracked up near the end, I laughed out loud lmao!
@Nitro2030ce
@Nitro2030ce 6 жыл бұрын
"It's like having software that runs in the 'background'!" I nearly lost it
@TheWolfkit
@TheWolfkit 6 жыл бұрын
IoT companies take note, home automation doesn't require the internet at all.
@fratercontenduntocculta8161
@fratercontenduntocculta8161 5 жыл бұрын
But then they wouldnt be able to harvest and sell all your personal data...
@guangyiguo8800
@guangyiguo8800 5 жыл бұрын
@@fratercontenduntocculta8161 You 're damn right.
@MrEdrftgyuji
@MrEdrftgyuji 4 жыл бұрын
But these companies told me I need to sign up for an online account to turn on my lights
@nutritionalyeast7978
@nutritionalyeast7978 4 жыл бұрын
totally unwarranted personal opinion time, but home automation is more bother than its worth, especially for lights. pressing a button is way easier than setting up and maintaining a LAN, and not prone to failure or accidental mistakes like 'oops i set the lights to turn on at 5am instead of 5pm in my calendar and i've thus been rudely awoken' its cool to be able to turn the lights off remotely, but really not worth the headaches it may induce IMO
@bmbpdk
@bmbpdk 4 жыл бұрын
Or wifi
@obsoletebutneat
@obsoletebutneat 6 жыл бұрын
If you go back and find the old 1984 movie 'Electric Dreams' , the main character buys his computer and automates his apartment much like this....and then it of course starts to take over his life for him.
@Fix3rJ0e
@Fix3rJ0e 6 жыл бұрын
Hal: MONDAY FRIDAY WEDNESDAY FRIDAY AT 12PM TURN ON THIS LAMP PLEASE SAY YES OR NO I died laughing.
@CatFace8885
@CatFace8885 6 жыл бұрын
"Monday Friday Wednesday Friday at 12PM turn. On desk lamp?" -HAL 2017
@spyder000069
@spyder000069 6 жыл бұрын
17 years ago I used one of these and wrote a vb app that checked my internet connection. If the connection was unavailable it powered off the x10 which controlled my cable modem and powered back on. This was a common issue in those times and kept my connection live so I could get to my server remotely from work. x10 also had a wireless camera (xcam) that I hacked up and mounted on a radio controlled plane. Had some of my first video flights long before FPV flying became a thing.
@StephenMatrese
@StephenMatrese 6 жыл бұрын
spyder000069 I'm using an ESP8266 for the same thing on my NAS
@googaagoogaa12345678
@googaagoogaa12345678 6 жыл бұрын
wish i had that i lived in lacoste for a year and the poo verse internet signal went off literally every day so i had to go unplug for 10 sec plug back in every damn day for a year i would have literally killed for a deal like that
@ThisDoesNotCompute
@ThisDoesNotCompute 6 жыл бұрын
This one brings back memories. My grandparents had a pretty extensive X10 setup in their house for the lighting, probably a good 20 or 25 units. They didn't have the computer interface, but I remember the controller from 2:43 well.
@Atomhaz
@Atomhaz 2 жыл бұрын
No way! A Collin spotted out in the wild! I love your channel my dude.
@LordProteus
@LordProteus 6 жыл бұрын
Set lights to 50% *mad flickering* Light: "YOU'VE MAIMED MY SOOUUL!!!"
@LorenHelgeson
@LorenHelgeson Жыл бұрын
Seeing this, the way through, I can't get the idea of the movie "Electric Dreams" out of my head. HAL's little breakdown in understanding at the end was the cherry on top... "Please say yes or no."
@MartinKronstrom
@MartinKronstrom 6 жыл бұрын
Your lamp is talking to you in morse code.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT reference
@yvonnerogers6429
@yvonnerogers6429 6 жыл бұрын
"Unless registered this product will expire on 11/15/2017." November 15th? Aw, man, Clint! That's only nineteen days from now! You better call! LOL! Thanks again for another awesome video. I really liked this one.
@JORGETECHJorge
@JORGETECHJorge 6 жыл бұрын
Yvonne Rogers He should send the registration card.
@peterquint3816
@peterquint3816 6 жыл бұрын
You can't let HAL go out like that!
@CheapSushi
@CheapSushi 6 жыл бұрын
BAHAHA he totally should and send them a link to the video.
@Daniel15au
@Daniel15au 6 жыл бұрын
AutomatedLiving.com still exists, I wonder if they still take phone calls to activate the old apps :)
@EdgeRatedR007
@EdgeRatedR007 6 жыл бұрын
It’s probably automated to expire a month after it’s installed.
@Scerttle
@Scerttle 6 жыл бұрын
That cleaning montage was satisfying as heck.
@ThatElectronicsFool
@ThatElectronicsFool 6 жыл бұрын
We had gotten an IBM Aptiva (2159 I believe, which I still have!) back in '96. It came with an X10 system included. It was the serial model, was all IBM branded and included a lamp and an appliance module. The software it came with was called Home Director. We would use it when we left the house for an extended period of time to make it look like someone was home. Good video!
@dhoffnun
@dhoffnun 6 жыл бұрын
Ha that's awesome! My dad actually still uses his old X10 system to this day - complete with window, door, and motion sensors and timed lighting changes when he's away. *THE FUTURE IS NOW!*
@IsmailofeRegime
@IsmailofeRegime 6 жыл бұрын
Up until the last four years my dad was still using a Bell Atlantic DSL modem, which came out circa 1999. Not as cool as your example, but still an instance where old technology worked just fine for modern purposes.
@dominateeye
@dominateeye 6 жыл бұрын
See, I'd trust his system miles more than Alexa or Google Home, because I doubt the X10 system is able to secretly gather recordings of your conversations and the products you buy and other intimate life details and send them to the CIA, NSA, and Google and Amazon's ad teams, respectively.
@TeuCat
@TeuCat 6 жыл бұрын
"MondayFridayWedensdayFriday at 12 pm turn on lamp?" "Please say yes or no..."
@grandetaco4416
@grandetaco4416 3 жыл бұрын
8:15 Led bulbs need to be dimmable to prevent flashing or to work with dimmable mode. The constant signal from the x10 to read the control signal causes this flashing. Dimmable LEDs are available. I avoid buying non-dimmable for this reason.
@NotSleepy
@NotSleepy 6 жыл бұрын
I am still using X10 modules around my house. They are still working after 25+ years. Over the years, I've had to replace a few controllers... But, these are still available on Ebay and Amazon.
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 6 жыл бұрын
NotSleepy : I recall seeing schematics online for how to do X10 with your own hardware. It's so simple, even if the modules aren't available anymore, they _still_ will be available.
@me67galaxylife
@me67galaxylife 2 жыл бұрын
That’s cool, I wondered if some people did; what software are you using ?
@RaketenKuhGewehr
@RaketenKuhGewehr 6 жыл бұрын
11:00 roughly: Yes, LEDs don't like to be dimmed by default. There are some you can dim (which will usually say "dimmable" on the box) but most of them don't like it. Similarly the flashing will probably also be a problem with the LED. I had a similar problem with a motion detector outside my Gran's house a few weeks back.
@TheRCTAddict
@TheRCTAddict Жыл бұрын
My dad is still using the hardware you showed off here to control the lights in our house, though with a Windows 95 GUI version and not a DOS version of the Lighthouse software. We have the CP290 controller, and a few The Timer clocks, as well as a handful of the appliance modules. 9:00 We've run into this issue before. It's probably that that lamp has a modern bulb (LED, CFL, or something to that effect) screwed in. Those don't always play nicely with the X10 system. 11:00 Dimmers *especially* don't play nicely, as you've discovered...but again, as you deduced, that's more of a functional issue with how that type of bulb works compared to an incandescent. LED dimmers are complex, run quite hot, and are also highly likely to increase the wear rate of the LED's transformer.
@flamshiz
@flamshiz 2 жыл бұрын
my dad had a full x10 system in the early 2000s hooked into his home network. I thought it was pure magic that he could turn on his coffee maker from his office if he wanted
@Akselmoi
@Akselmoi 6 жыл бұрын
That was amazing!! :D Lost it at the "MONDAY TUESDAY WEDNESDAY TURN ON DESK LAMP??????"
@CrimsonSanX
@CrimsonSanX 6 жыл бұрын
Prime network television Snakes on a Plane from HAL 2000 there.
@XPLOSIVization
@XPLOSIVization 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man it broke me when it did that, still wiping the tears of laughter from my eyes
@CMDRSweeper
@CMDRSweeper 6 жыл бұрын
Frickin epic yes... It made me laugh a lot... Especially at the tone of voice that the text to speech chose for it.
@TheReprom
@TheReprom 6 жыл бұрын
Please say yes or no!
@draketungsten74
@draketungsten74 6 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of an Aqua Teen Hunger Force episode.
@paulgascoigne5343
@paulgascoigne5343 6 жыл бұрын
Hmm.. Well the microwave didn't switch on to cook dinner whilst we were out. It's a shame about next-door burning down like that though.. I wonder what happened?
@ProtoMario
@ProtoMario 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, it did dim it at 50%...it was off and on...LMAO.
@zergmare7
@zergmare7 3 жыл бұрын
PROTO!!!! Good to see you are still alive
@terraria9934
@terraria9934 3 жыл бұрын
thats legit how dimming works with normal lights
@CardboardSliver
@CardboardSliver 4 жыл бұрын
Clint's giggle over a lamp and old software is great. It makes my day so much better
@TheRogueMaverick
@TheRogueMaverick Жыл бұрын
His laugh is indeed infectious, that's for sure!
@Eucep
@Eucep 6 жыл бұрын
I really have tears in my eyes from laughing at the voice recognition. Yet.. I realize from what time it came and must say it's actually incredibly good. I've tried several voice recognition programs back then and none did as well as this one. But to be sure, did this one need to be 'trained' yes or no?
@LGR
@LGR 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't do any training beforehand!
@Eucep
@Eucep 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Then yes, this one ranks pretty high for older voice recognition.
@Sampler19
@Sampler19 6 жыл бұрын
lol - best episode so far! xD Back in the nineties a guy from my hometown Stadthagen (Germany) used to do and control literally everything in his home with his Amiga 1200. Opening the front door, controlling the Phone, Microwave, Printer, Internet, burn CDs for other guys like me (when it was still a novelty), rendering and cutting movies, composing music, coding, managing his Comedy CD collection via database etc. I was pretty amazed by that. I didn't know these home control systems even existed that early, though.
@Rumpelstilzchen12
@Rumpelstilzchen12 6 жыл бұрын
Sampler19 Reading through the comments randomly finding a person that lives "next door". I am from Obernkirchen and born in Stadthagen :D Off-topic but just funny how small the world can be xD
@Sampler19
@Sampler19 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, nice! I transformed into a Hamburger twenty years ago, though.
@protozoid4571
@protozoid4571 6 жыл бұрын
yum!
@trevhoffmann
@trevhoffmann 6 жыл бұрын
HAL-What is my purpose? me- turn on desk lap HAL- oh kill me now
@artofnoise5013
@artofnoise5013 7 ай бұрын
Still one of my favorite LGR videos. I laugh uncontrollably at the voice control at the end!
@TheJoebus666
@TheJoebus666 6 жыл бұрын
MONDAY FRIDAY WEDNESDAY FRIDAY AT 12PM TURN. ON DESK LAMP?
@RobRandomVids
@RobRandomVids 6 жыл бұрын
Well whad'ya know, haha, it's you again. Hi.
@kemi242
@kemi242 6 жыл бұрын
PLEASE SAY YES OR NO.
@Madness832
@Madness832 6 жыл бұрын
The PC module, shown @ 3:30, is called the CM-11. This will still work, even on a Windows 10 machine, if you find the software "Activehome Pro" and have a motherboard w/ a COM-header (I have this very setup). Only that my module is IBM-branded (HD-11) and came as part of their "Home Director" line of X10 hardware. I found a starter kit @ Goodwill around 20 years ago. Also, the lamp module can cause havoc w/ some energy-saver bulbs. Like the pulsing issue, being caused by the module repeatedly sending brief current pulses through the bulb when "off (not sure of the reason)." And yes, it can be a hit-or-miss on dimming. If you can do w/o the latter, use an appliance module.
@stevenvohl
@stevenvohl 3 жыл бұрын
The major shortcoming was that it would only control devices on the same phase (side) of the circuit breaker panel, unless you installed a "circuit bridge" to relay the control signal to the other phase. While modules and controllers were commonly found in stores, the circuit bridge was a rare thing to find.
@m7hacke
@m7hacke 4 жыл бұрын
We had the Radio Shack version growing up. We had our backyard lit up with flood lights like a baseball stadium by digging trenches all over for wiring and putting up light polls that were the remnants of our old swing set. Ah, the good ole days.
@MrNamegame
@MrNamegame 6 жыл бұрын
I always turn on my lamp on MONDAY FRIDAY WEDNESDAY FRIDAY at 12 PM.
@megamanfan3
@megamanfan3 6 жыл бұрын
prizedcoffeecup Ditto. 😆
@RamblesWorkshop
@RamblesWorkshop 6 жыл бұрын
I was writting a comment to say that i bet you had an LED bulb in there to explain the flashing and inability to dim when you outright did it xD Makes sense i suppose, considering LEDs require far less power as such any leaking through the module will build up in the capacitor and cause flashing like you saw, alternatively, because it was dimmed it had the same effect, it was just filling and discharging the capacitor instead. Halogen bulbs obviously dont use said capacitors.
@baseddoggie
@baseddoggie 6 жыл бұрын
I was about to say this. Obviously needs an incandescent bulb
@CantankerousDave
@CantankerousDave 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is how lightswitch raves got started.
@jonakers704
@jonakers704 6 жыл бұрын
The bleeding voltage from the unit is actually there on purpose. It is there for local control features to work, so you can turn on a lamp or whatever by turning it off and on again.
@Slash0mega
@Slash0mega 6 жыл бұрын
@jon ackers, control function, like if the says the lamp is off (cutting the current) and you are in the room and want it on, you can tell the system to reconnect the current by turning the lamp off then on without the computer? handy!
@Brian.S
@Brian.S 6 жыл бұрын
@Slash - Yes, exactly. It's trying to detect the light's own switch being used. There are mods documented on the web for certain X-10 modules to disable that when it's not needed, and it's only noticeable with modern efficient bulbs (LED and CFL).
@HalfLifeExpert1
@HalfLifeExpert1 3 жыл бұрын
Had a brief terror moment at: 14:03 "Your HAL 2000 is a living product, which is growing and evolving daily". OH SH*T, It really IS HAL!!!!
@AluminumDragonRawr
@AluminumDragonRawr 6 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the movies and episodes of shows where a smart house tried to take over :P
@kenziemac130
@kenziemac130 6 жыл бұрын
AluminumDragon I think this kind of thing was the inspiration for that.
@benr7272
@benr7272 6 жыл бұрын
That movie was Walt Disney Smart House
@brandonortiz6466
@brandonortiz6466 6 жыл бұрын
Electric Dreams?
@drowningin
@drowningin 6 жыл бұрын
Whose to say they didn't? Careful she's listening
@Toastmaster_5000
@Toastmaster_5000 5 жыл бұрын
well I mean, it is called HAL 2000. That's a pretty dead giveaway
@smartperson1
@smartperson1 6 жыл бұрын
We used X10 in college and after, back in 2004-2009. The control and appliance accessories were available really cheap from one retailer online, and it still worked perfectly. Great technology, and (strangely) probably more secure than all the IoT stuff today.
@ThePCKid11
@ThePCKid11 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, you're probably right. X10 never connects to the Web, so there's no chance of hacking :)
@romajimamulo
@romajimamulo 6 жыл бұрын
PCKid11 except for the part where if someone can access your outlet, they can mess with it
@smartperson1
@smartperson1 6 жыл бұрын
Securing a computer system when an attacker has physical access to the premises is extremely difficult. I think computers, smartphones and tablets with whole-disk encryption baked into the firmware are the only good consumer devices available with any protections against it. And that, too, only if users don't sync everything that have to the cloud. Also that only works when the device has been powered off.
@Sonickid1011
@Sonickid1011 6 жыл бұрын
except from your neighbors over the powerlines unencrypted
@HazeMotes
@HazeMotes 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine a criminal trying to burglarize your home by wheeling an IBM PC up to an outdoor outlet and plugging in their X-10.
@oktal3700
@oktal3700 6 жыл бұрын
"Monday Friday Wednesday Friday" hey it's Rabbot from Aqua Teen
@BorkBorkDoggo
@BorkBorkDoggo 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see I'm not the only one who thought this.
@ianoliver12
@ianoliver12 6 жыл бұрын
"What is the meaning of life?" (BLOOP) "Oh..."
@TechBaffle
@TechBaffle 4 жыл бұрын
6:14 'Old Cheese and Cigarettes' is a great name for an album
@machiner6
@machiner6 6 жыл бұрын
Damn, I would take the HAL 2000 over Google Home or Alexa, any day! I love the way it's set up compared to those.
@Moonfreeze
@Moonfreeze 6 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that you'd call the number to register :)
@leisergeist
@leisergeist 6 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, but it's fun to see what the number is now :D
@proximitea
@proximitea 6 жыл бұрын
The number is probably not even online anymore.
@Jellybeantiger
@Jellybeantiger 6 жыл бұрын
Erik Sundstrom and get a free pizza coupon
@floobertuber
@floobertuber 6 жыл бұрын
I'd say the chances of it still being a live number are somewhere between "zero" and "aw hell no."
@johnfrancisdoe1563
@johnfrancisdoe1563 6 жыл бұрын
floobertuber Depends if it's the same place still controlling the production. If they kept it going from 1979 to 1999, they might still be going in 2018.
@grayrabbit2211
@grayrabbit2211 4 ай бұрын
I had this back in the day and it worked surprisingly well. Voice recognition wasn't the best, but I used it for the remote control stuff and it was great. I moved over to the Smarthome / Insteon stuff after that. I actually still have some of the X-10 modules and controllers in the closet...and I just tried them and they're still working. I used it for the whole house, but also used it for the Christmas lights. Back in the 1980s, to be able to change your house's light colors by remote was quite unheard of. I'd have to run each color string individually, then just layer multiple colors. It was really amazing back then.
@JoeStuffzAlt
@JoeStuffzAlt 6 жыл бұрын
I love the HAL 2000's voice better than most personal assistants. I like how awesome it sounds compared to the others that sound so... unnaturally happy
@TedSeeber
@TedSeeber 6 жыл бұрын
Final comment- You could download alternate personalities for HAL because it used the Microsoft Speech Engine. I used the Merlin Wizard for a couple of years in there.
@lavenderinthedark
@lavenderinthedark 6 жыл бұрын
18:00 - 18:34 That’s awesome XD
@SkoinksX
@SkoinksX 6 жыл бұрын
I think this is one of the best moments of LGR
@jboerman3
@jboerman3 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I laughed my pants off at this part! Great video
@silasmcgee3647
@silasmcgee3647 6 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Boerman I thought it was going to lose my fucking dinner at that part😂😂
@That_Handle
@That_Handle 6 жыл бұрын
thepickle , Are you sure ? 😮 Please, say yes or no. 18:17 😂
@guilhermevalentim95
@guilhermevalentim95 6 жыл бұрын
What he said? I didn't understand :(
@Razielchan666
@Razielchan666 6 жыл бұрын
This is seriously awesome, an Oddware that actually does its job and does it perfectly! Yeah, LED bulbs have to have special circuits to support old-style dimming. cya Raziel-chan
@me67galaxylife
@me67galaxylife 2 жыл бұрын
are you drunk
@Mekelaina
@Mekelaina 4 жыл бұрын
my crush: thanks for your help! me: we go on date monday-friday at 5pm to desk lamp? crush: starts laughing at me me: please say yes or no
@me67galaxylife
@me67galaxylife 2 жыл бұрын
Your pfp made me want to jump out of the window
@Mekelaina
@Mekelaina 2 жыл бұрын
@@me67galaxylife then do so.
@me67galaxylife
@me67galaxylife 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mekelaina No i still have my survival instinct, but i might lose it soon if such stupidity continues to plague the human race and embarass it as a whole
@RobotRevolution
@RobotRevolution 6 жыл бұрын
When the lamp started strobing I totally thought this was going to be a Halloween episode where the oddware takes over his house! XD
@KiraSlith
@KiraSlith 6 жыл бұрын
"Monday Friday Wednesday Friday at 12 PM turn off the desk lamp?" Oh boy, it is VERY confused. Clint, what'd you do?
@JonathanRockway
@JonathanRockway 6 жыл бұрын
I had some X10 stuff when I was a kid and thought it was the coolest thing in the world. I always longed for the computer control but it was always out of reach for an 11-year-old ;) BTW, I like how you blurred out everything except the credit card number at 4:53. Yeah, probably a long-dead account, but still amusing ;)
@VincentDeBellis224
@VincentDeBellis224 6 жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite LGR episodes.
@nono-fg5iq
@nono-fg5iq 6 жыл бұрын
Woah! The X-10 looks so goddamn cool! If I could make my Apple II a "control center" for a smart home I think it will become an addiction for me pretty fast (Buying X-10 "smart outlets" daily like cigs...). Oh and btw - that setup with outlet modules and control via the grid seems much simpler and more stable than Google assistant and Alexa, also the fact that it doesn't connect to the Internet is super-cool even if it doesn't have any kind of encryption or authentication methods the fact it's not on the web is a pretty huge pro. And since I rarely boot my Apple II, mostly when friends wanna play games on it (Although the Powermac G4 and G3 get much more attention because Marathon LAN matches are hella fun) this would be an awesome excuse for me to place my Apple II as a "smart home command-center" in my study or living room...
@skuzzyj
@skuzzyj 6 жыл бұрын
There's actually a whole, weird little subculture around utilizing modern electronics like Arduino's and Raspberry Pis to control X10 hardware in order to integrate old home automation stuff with newer technologies... which can theoretically be used (through Alexa's IFTTT skill) to voice control everything, even down to something as boring as closing the garage door from anywhere in the house. A lot of setup, though.
@jstagzsr
@jstagzsr 4 жыл бұрын
i wanna control my entire house on this system!!!! even now in 2019. this is dope. and now im off to find a way to do this on modern hardware,
@devonrosa4414
@devonrosa4414 4 жыл бұрын
What'd you come up with?
@TJWhiteStar
@TJWhiteStar 3 жыл бұрын
Modern X10 is pretty much the exact same as they've barely changed it over the years other than add in water sensors and make it better in terms of Interference etc.
@me67galaxylife
@me67galaxylife 2 жыл бұрын
@@TJWhiteStar and add LED compatible module
@wedohedoshedooowee828
@wedohedoshedooowee828 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel, I just started watching a few days ago and while I've never had a real interest in computers and tech you make it easy to start to find an interest in it! It's awesome that you get to make videos and show off your passion for what you love and find interesting, never let anyone tell you any different when I say that your passion on it's own could move mountains.
@k001daddy
@k001daddy 6 жыл бұрын
I always wanted an X10 for the Commodore, but it was too expensive. Now I want to hook up my entire home to a Commodore 64! Thanks for making this video.
@Oddlyoko2K
@Oddlyoko2K 6 жыл бұрын
Greetings and welcome to LGR Oddware where we're taking a look at hardware and software that is odd, forgotten and obsolete.
@random2307
@random2307 5 жыл бұрын
Your channel is hands down the best, a time machine. I'm 37, and right at home. Love it
@StevenIngram
@StevenIngram 6 жыл бұрын
You know, I miss old pre-graphical blue dos interfaces. They were always so clean and specific to purpose.
@pinokotsbeer6453
@pinokotsbeer6453 6 жыл бұрын
haha the HAL respones with your laugh are great!
@RudyMemes
@RudyMemes 6 жыл бұрын
Oh God your laugh is soothing on my ears, hahaha laughed so hard at poor HAL trying to turn on the desk lamp
@periodicblack5169
@periodicblack5169 2 жыл бұрын
this is legit one of my favorite things to watch on youtube. . . Reminds me of my youthful joy seeing that sort of stuff in an uncles house
@ReplayRetro
@ReplayRetro 3 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic piece of Oddware! Absolutely love it! The reason your LED bulb caused problems was because of leakage... basically because the adapter needs to be powered by your mains and lacks full isolation it never actually completely shuts off the power to the lamp, instead just reducing it to a very low level. With an incandescent bulb this isn't a problem, because the power getting through isn't enough to do anything, but because LED bulbs require so little power and have capacitors you'll basically get a brief flash from the bulb every time the capacitor gets fully charged, the same is true of the dimming effect except it flashes faster as you're charging it more quickly. If you were to use a dimmable LED bulb you'd probably eliminate this problem (though it depends on the amount of leakage)
@kevnar
@kevnar 6 жыл бұрын
I remember there was a movie in the 80s called "Electric Dreams". A guy bought a top-of-the-line computer and hooked it up to control his entire house. Plot Twist: he accidentally dumps a bottle of champagne over the whole thing, and instead of destroying it and electrocuting himself, it somehow caused the computer to come to life with its own super-advanced AI. It fell in love with his girlfriend and made him a prisoner in his own home. Clearly, it was written at a time where computers were this big mysterious and scary force. It's comical now, but at the time, audiences were in awe. Hey, look! It's on KZfaq. lol. Check out the retro hilarity! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p5ucqsuZ1K-vn58.html
@xirabolt
@xirabolt 6 жыл бұрын
It was drunk with power
@ChristopherSobieniak
@ChristopherSobieniak 6 жыл бұрын
kevnar Controlling home security via computers was a thing in the 80's. I remember seeing a smiilar product being sold in Radio Shack catalogs.
@wpl955g9
@wpl955g9 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, Moles.
@Kee-Lo
@Kee-Lo 6 жыл бұрын
It's just been remastered for Blu Ray disk
@machiner6
@machiner6 6 жыл бұрын
There was also a Disney movie called "Smart House" that takes the automation bit up to eleven. Brutalmoose did a review: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNF6i8WouMjeiYk.html
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