Scott Burrows 😂😂😂😂😂🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

Everyone here knows that this guy has no girlfriend. It's as mythical as his friends "Al & Sheila" living completely independent from all government...if "Al & Sheila" even exist, as well.

@@nopes4545 right, we should all move to rural Arkansas and dig wells, put up solar panels and hunt our own game like his mythical friends...this way we don't have to depend on government in any way. That is, of course, until the guy living next to you decides he's just going to take your property and dry up your well water with his bigger guns.

He probably knocked her up and owes child support but doesn't want the government telling him he has to take care of his children.

@@nopes4545 Ah yes his friends that are on the run for tax evasion because they tried to be independent.

Social Libertarians do exist.

Vasilijan Nikolovski Actually it came from mutualism if I remember

@@cupthought919 to 99% of the world "libertarianism" is libertarian socialism

@@marciamakesmusic I'm saying the origin of the word comes from mutualism, which was an ideology incorporating liberalism and socialism. I never said anything about what most of the world thinks

@@cupthought919 Way too many fucking labels for things. Libertarian socialism/marxism is already a thing, why add a different label onto it? When I hear mutualism, I think of symbiosis or parasitism.

What does one thing have to do with the other?

@@judethaddeus9856 The caller claimed he wasn’t trying to trick him, but got mad at Sam for not being tricked. I’m not sure what the confusion is here.

@@judethaddeus9856 o00

Blake from Arkansas is a good caller I love listening to him and Sam. Good guy even if I think his ideology is flawed a bit.

lmao that's exactly what my mind went to

Lol I was listening to that one last night (I'm just now discovering Sam Seder) and that part had me staring at the screen with my mouth open, and then I busted up laughing. The disconnection to reality with these people is just stunning.

haha exactly

I think I went through that phase when I was in my mid teens. But it was so long ago I can't recall. Maybe I skipped it entirely as obviously stupid.

Amen.

I went through it when I was in high school. People like the guy that called in never grew out of that teenage mentality

I’m still in it, I’m just a libertarian socialist

I think the most “libertarian” I ever have been was in my early 20s when I was bitching about having to pay taxes from my salary

Libertarians seem to have differing ideas from the traditional Republican party which has now mutated into Trumpism. But in every election so-called Libertarians I’ve personally met (and there are many, I’m in a red state) vote R.

Republicans consistently demonstrate that they lack a coherent ideology. Libertarians have one, it’s just stupid

@@andyrihn1 It's not as coherent as they think it is. After all, they are against antitrust laws because it violates free association, but they also claim to oppose monopolies, and they oppose unions.

@@wvu05 they think monopolies can only exist with government support (this is incorrect and stupid but they believe it) and that unions hinder the employees’ rights to freely associate with their employers (for worse pay, safety, etc)

@@andyrihn1 It's coherent in the sense that if there are competing claims, they will _always_ side with corporate and monied interests over consumers and workers, but it's not coherent in the way they think it is of just wanting the most freedom for the most people.

I'll address it. Utopia doesn't mean "no place". Ou-topos means no-place, eu-topos means good-place, have 'em make a little baby bastard together and you get Utopia. Thomas More is making a joke about how his imagined perfect isle is a fantasy world, because even in the story Utopia isn't real.

danzigvssartre So, is that a small government because they're just two, or is it a big government since even if just one of them ends up getting elected, it will be 50% of the population in their independent sovereign nation who's part of their government!?

I can understand disliking modernity and wanting to be more self-sufficient or dreaming of living in the wilderness, but to base your entire political philosophy on this goal of not ever having to rely on anyone else is pretty selfish

I want to know where they get their baking soda or toothpaste. If they manufacture them then that’s truly amazing, you could say unbelievable.

The census shows most of us don't choose to live in Arkansas either.

@@TheFreepie It's also just stupid. If he is friends with this Al and Sheila, they are relying on someone else to some degree. Anybody who is truly a loner is gonna go insane fast. There's a reason solitary confinement is considered a form of torture by some researchers and people reading into that research. I think the more realistic isolationist dream is to be a Ron Swanson; someone who is self-sufficient, asocial, spends lots of time alone and generally avoids people, but is also in touch with friends and people in society, and at one point or another is going to realize that they're better off relying on other people and being relied upon to some extent than being as isolated as possible. Without going into specific Parks and Rec spoilers, I think Ron Swanson's arc is a decent portrayal of the idea of a stubborn libertarian realizing they have to come back to reality sometimes and that sometimes the best things in their life are going to come from friends, not from hiding away. And they can still lean toward being a stubborn isolationist without giving that up.

Let's hear it from my retinoblastoma peeps.

Seems like this dude has never heard of DNA.

Lmao. The moment the libertarians decide to call in, Sam has already won the debate

gov't military and gov't roads are pragmatic

Nothing wrong with society, as long as it's voluntary.

>Government in a democracy is a reflection of the people's will No it isn't. Or at least not in the USA, UK or AU it isn't. The Governments in these countries repeatedly get voted into power and carry out unpopular acts such as war crimes or privatisation against the wishes of most of their population.

@@unitedfools3493 you're being too simplistic. A democracy is literally defined as a country where the power resides in the hands of the people. So just purely based on definition what I said is correct. Now to address the other point. Yes countries like the US which is typically referred to as a democracy often enacts public policy which the people disagree with. And that is precisely because the US isn't really very democratic. Far too much political power rests in the hands of wealthy/corporations/lobbyists, etc. Countries which are labelled democracies can have serious democratic deficits in their structure. You're just looking at it all wrong. The correct conclusion to draw from a so-called democratic country enacting unpopular policy is that the system of government in these particular countries is flawed and not really very democratic rather than what you're trying to do and say that no in fact they actually are completely democratic but the definition of democracy is wrong

and when the country is experiencing a surge in conservatism then the welfare benefits will be cut : the majority will determine what the minority will receive and if they want the minority to receive a very small amount of money then that's all they will get...……………………………………………...that doesn't sound like a good thing

Eric Bilodeau actually direct democracy that reflects the will of the people(you know, actual democracy) isn’t a government as they’re aren’t any rulers. So it’s antithetical to a government

@@cupthought919 unless it has a court system

This guy really wants to Beg the Question but he isn't smart enough to set you up.

I they get a tumor, they'll just take a knife and cut it out themselves.

That seems to be their core tenet. Arguing with reasonable people on the internet.

@@tove236 Big hunting knife and some tough hemp fibers would be a great way to stitch that wound up.

My opinion of libertarians: just right wingers that have been flung from the right wing centrifuge.

Central to the pop-libertarian and conservative ethos is the phrase "the only good government is small government." (And by "small" they mean "virtually non-existent"). Why? Reasons.

@@redjalapeno5714 Often rightwing atheists who don't feel at home with fundamentalism.

@@cloudofthought - nah. I get it. They see corruption in government and don't want it to impede them or infringe on them. But because they're fundamentally anti-social narcissists, they don't care about anyone but themselves. So they see no use in fighting for GOOD government directed by the people to provide services, and would rather it just go away entirely. It's juvenile thinking, but there it is.

Just wanted to say this is a good point and exactly what we have been seeing in practice in recent history. Government is corrupt and not up to the challenges of the times because so many of the roles in government are filled with crooks and greedy fools, in large part because a lot of people think government is bad and don't get involved instead of acting to make it better.

They can't do that. They're stuck in an adolescence of juvenile individualist platitudes and damn the consequences or the real world.

( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°) seems like a large majority of the time they end up admitting that they view most people as less intelligent, capable, and worthy of living with dignity as they are. A worldview constructed around supporting an overinflated ego.

Ily😭

@@aino1010

Let the Free market decided if they want to pay your ransom if it's to high I'm sure a harsh Yelp review will solve the problem

hey now i dont know, this is one of the more levelheaded ones

He didn't understand a lot of things.

I mean, Lance Armstrong was a world-class cyclist *BEFORE* contracting cancer...

"But i jog, sam. I wont get cancer." Oh no

Also do they forget injuries happen lol? Especially in their ideal world where pesky health and safety regulations will all be got rid of lmao

@@mrbadguysan That's becayse he was a Drug Kingpin for the other Cyclists.

Bruh. Like having a healthy lifestyle is *not* a guarantee of a life without illness. People don’t understand cancer . No wonder why they think that the “health industry” “hides” the cure. The chances of getting cancer if you have a healthy life are low, *BUT NO ZERO.*

Exactly. I don't think anybody is STOKED about getting an abortion, but it is an absolute must that women have this option

If they had, they wouldn't be Libertarians. And that's why we love them, isn't it?

@@GrahamBarth maybe so, LOL!!!

Because they don't interact with anybody who doesn't buy into the same ill-conceived bullshit. Their lives consist of watching libertarian, survival and prepper videos and posting on social media with fellow nutcases.

@@huehuecoyotl2, boy, we just have too many nutcases in this country and their becoming dangerous to our well being.

LMFAOOO

At 2:41 you can hear Blake's brain screaming:"Oh s**t, Sam just flipped the script on me!"

Lold

"Sam, I knew you guys would try to put that common sense and context crap into the analogy like you always do, so I just wanted a simple answer to my 'not-gotcha" question."

The hilarious part of that one is how hard he fell into that very common trap. That’s a classic old interview question, but either he didn’t know it or refused to acknowledge it because he wasn’t going to give up his point… Whatever that was…

"non aggression principle" "sovereign citizen" "'yes or no' question" "voluntary association"

The other thing is that Arkansas has plenty of laws on the books for people with septic tanks and wells. It's not like people can just run out into the woods and dig a well anywhere they want. They have to go through a process. Even if Al and Shiela didn't dig the well, someone did.

Best comment here lol

yes because private firms never develop technologies

@@contekozlovski Missed the point completely.

@@contekozlovski the solar panel was created by private sector people so i don't know what the point is

Collaide I bet he has some amazing debates in the shower

Does he plan on sterilizing poor people? How does he plan on getting poor people to not have sex?

4. "Hey, don't bring real world questions into my scenario! That's just appealing to emotion!"

It's the new conservative talking point against Medicare for all

Too bad they don't practice what they preach.

Back in my day of like 2006 watching Penn and Teller they'd say the almighty market provided the best healthcare. Now there all saying shit like "I don't believe in private insurance just eat some carrots."

@@Dupe14 If they believed in the market they wouldn't be clinging to fossil fuels.

A lot of times they call in and say the other libertarians did a poor job of explaining it. They'll do it better. It's an ego trip.

"Why do the libertarians keep calling in?" Sam has made it known that he welcomes libertarian callers. Those videos tend to get more hits than others.

@@MichaelAronson You'd think that the callers would watch a few videos, realize they'd get slaughtered, and not call in.

@@kevinskiles2033 Dunning-Kruger never fails. Nor does Sam.

JackgarPrime they gave up for quite a few years but I guess they’ve forgotten how badly they get owned.

I think the only people who can truly be said to live independently of government are hunter-gatherer tribes who haven't had contact with the civilized world.

Poor guy. A lot of people that claim to be Libertarians are like this. I know too many people my age (30s) that are similar. You cannot have a reasonable conversation with them for the most part. This segment is a perfect example.

I guarantee this guy sits around and watches libertarian youtube videos all day and posts on social media with fellow libertarians, then feels so confident that his logic is airtight that he can 'destroy' Sam and the gang. It's like preparing to survive in the wild by playing lots of Minecraft.

if he does have a gf he bought her when she was probably 12 with meth cooked in his buddies solar powered trailer

@@comradeyuri2972 he used his private army/police force to impress her

The strength of rugged individualism has given them mutant healing powers. Obviously

Because they are experiencing a prolonged childhood mentality. Their entire ideology is directed at the institution of policies that limit resources towards minority groups with the intended effect of preserving white male dominance. Libertarians are sad little snowflakes that want to intentionally inflict cruelty on anyone who isn’t them since most of them are weak little bitches who are too afraid to confront anyone in person, so they get their kicks by denying medical care to sick people who would die without government aid.

I suspect it's because a lot of libertarians grow out of libertarianism before health issues become something that they're mindful of.

Also if children get sick.... It's their lifestyle 😑😑😑😑😑

Because the majority of them are a bunch of fucking kids or greedy small businesses owners who only care about themselves.

He's all over the place and I'm loving it

Literally started cackling. 😆

I think "Wait- this is the part where you SIMPLIFY it?" takes home the gold.

To be fair, libertarians debunk their own silliness by just opening their mouths. Just there's a bunch of idiots that actually believe that living in the 1800s was a good thing as a worker.

Its so annoying to watch because while right, the dude on the phone has no idea how to combat sam's deflection and debate tactics. Sam is not good faith, so if anybody is going to have a fair conversation they need to know how to call out his bs. Not to mention sam's community is literal cancer. Don't confuse debate skills with correct positions.

​@@yarvaelol you are so full of💩.

​@llarvae5359 why don't you call into the show? Show us how a true libertarian defends their worldview. Sam likes to drill down to pragmatics in these conversations, because otherwise it's a completely hypothetical discussion that results is dueling theory. So, sam avoids the trap and asks them how exactly does libertarian praxis manifest. It may be annoying to you and it may be argumentative, but it's not bad faith. Sam is always engaging honestly. Just because he doesn't follow you down your dialog tree doesn't mean he's acting in bad faith.

@@ampere11 Sam is absolutely not good faith and is focused on solely optics in his convos. He will stake no position in an argument so that he doesn't have to commit, and then proceed to essentially interview the other person until he thinks he finds a chink in their armor and proceed to parade it around like it means he has won. He does this in every debate I have watched of his. Most of the debate feels like clueless Sam interviewing another person and often agreeing. Since he doesn't make well defined claims there is nothing for the other person to attack but i bet most viewers don't realize how many concessions he is making while he does this. Essentially to debate sam you would have to be really firm in holding him to a point, and have a well fleshed out position. He essentially debates to impress his echo chamber, not for truth. His terrible takes in Kyle Rittenhouse or debates over that should be enough to show how much of a joke he is. He is also very often guilty of strawmanning any view that isn't his own which means he is dim and can't understand them, or more likely is a manipulative commentator. Its not that he isn't following a dialogue tree, but rather that he is only looking for gotcha's, name calling, and manipulating his audience. I'm not referring to this video specifically either or defending the libertarian here because honestly I'm not sure what they were getting at either but of course sam is going to imply, and his fans are going to eat this up, as an accurate portrayal of the ideology which is what i was pointing out in my first comment.

@@dougm4160 Hey, enjoy your echo chamber.

Bruh you and all of your family should have just taken better care of yourselves /s

Had me dying

@@tommyscholly Blake it's a simple question

These libertarian ideas can be debunked so easily it’s comical

I prefer to just call him a "master 'bater"

@@TadValente I don't because no one's better at that stuff than I am. I've got the blisters and burns to prove it.💪

he's very good but I think steven has psyched himself out so much he's going to get a nervous condition named after him

@@grammarofficerkrupke4398 I think I’m better in my opinion

@@CriusXI Are you suggesting a jerk off?

@broccolli god Looks like you don't know who Ayn Rand was.

She wasn't dependent, just greedy because she still had wealth until she died.

@broccolli god Yeah, she was really principled and exemplary... oh, wait !

That was mind boggling. I am a libertarian BUT women should be less free because reasons. I wish Sam brought up rape or severe health issues which would lead to both mother and the child's death (diabetic mother, genetic disease, complications during pregnancy, any sort of surgical intervention which requires anesthesia, etc).

"All I wanted was a very simple answer to a very simple question. It's not a 'Got'cha!" Sam: "OK: Iindependent. Goodbye." click But seriously, the guy calls in to a political talk show to "debate", then demands one word answers to false dichotomy questions. Can't have any rational discussion or anything like that. What a genius.

They are. Libertarianism must be redefined form what it was to be compatible with socialism. And no one with any power whatsoever is pushing "socialism" in America. It is a boogie man, meant to keep people from realizing that government can actually be a positive in the lives of the people - even in a capitalist economic system. In fact we've SEEN government effectively and successfully used as the counterweight to capitalism in America. When the balance was right, we had the biggest expansion of the middle class in the nation's history. Libertarianism was literally created to counteract that balance, and put the power fully in the hands of capitalists.

@@douglaswilliams1680 bro you act like you have to be totally capitalist and or totally socialist. Life is a spectrum, not everything is black and white. There can be mixed stances, mind blowing, I know.

@@xenos_n. I didn't "act" like anything. And what I WROTE, actually indicated that I know exact opposite of what your saying I "act like." Furthermore - I actually think that a capitalist economy, regulated for the benefit of the citizens (what dumb people in America call socialism) is the best way to go.

@@douglaswilliams1680 you're kind of insufferable 😂

@@xenos_n. but I'm not wrong. In my experience, people who don't know what they are talking about often think those who do are "insufferable."

*5 month year olds ftfy

@@WarningBFG-isHiring That's fair.

I know right I had a 3rd molar that didn't come out of my gums got infected. But genetics right. I should have been born from a species that had big enough mouths for all their teeth

it's awesome, I had never seen this!

Libertarianism and socialism are antithetical cuz Murray Rothbard said so in the 50s hurr durr 🤪

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same

Right? "Can't pay for healthcare, just don't get sick". Makes tons of sense if you don't think about it (or anything) too hard.

Great counter example!

Ask him if he was born in a hospital.

I was literally gonna say lmao It's obvious he was trying to insinuate casual sex or something ~insidious~ But plenty of women in many kinds of relationships and situations get abortions Dude's a total idiot

Lol I like how he literally asked them if the government controlled all of the money ...Yes Blake. I'd say they make that pretty clear on all of those dollar bills plastered with nationalistic symbolism.

tj22 lmao poor pitiful Blake.