Chopin Etude Op. 10 No. 1 - 4 EFFECTIVE EXERCISES to learn it // Practice TUTORIAL // Danae Dörken

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Danae Dörken

Danae Dörken

Күн бұрын

Chopin’s Etude Op. 10 No. 1 probably is one of the most played and practiced Etudes of the piano repertoire. Take a look at these four very simple exercises that you can incorporate into your practice routine that will help you gradually increase your abilities with this piece and eventually be able to play it comfortably in every situation!
Here is a video on how to learn Chopin’s etude op. 10 no. 2:
• Chopin Etude Op. 10 No...
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@JohnFred1964
@JohnFred1964 2 жыл бұрын
How to thank you? It's so rare that a concertist of your level share how she works on a piece. That' awesome, thanks a lot! Please keep going posting videos, that's very very helpful.
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@osamaal-awadhi4287
@osamaal-awadhi4287 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that ur so sweet
@temujinlegacy
@temujinlegacy 2 жыл бұрын
It's such a rarity for a professionally trained pianist to give advices on youtube. Thank you so much! Your job is much appreciated
2 жыл бұрын
So glad that I am able to share my experiences! 🤗🙏🏻
@freespirit995
@freespirit995 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful recommendations- I've been trying to play this piece for many, many years but don't have a teacher. Inevitably, I have not made much progress but these exercises give me hope that I might one day succeed in playing this magnificent piece "tolerably"... Thank you very much for sharing these ideas.
3 жыл бұрын
I wish you all the best on your journey with this piece, it’s so rewarding when you finally get to the point of being able to play it. 🤗
@keepLaffN
@keepLaffN 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same exact experience! Lol
@APFELSTRUDELL
@APFELSTRUDELL 2 жыл бұрын
marvellous piece.I'm trying to work it.I'm 65.It's now or never ! ty !
2 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing, have fun with the study! 👏🏻🤗
@mateusquasetuga
@mateusquasetuga Жыл бұрын
I’m learning it now. Tried it last year and got sore right hand. Coming back to it now after working on releasing tension a lot. It really is a major milestone. I can hardly believe that I’m even able to play it at 100bpm. It’s such a rewarding piece as it slowly comes together.
@richardforshaw8479
@richardforshaw8479 2 жыл бұрын
You play this study so comfortably, even the most awkward moments, and because you‘ve lived with this since you were in your early teens, it flies off the fingers with ease. Wonderful.!
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@aaron_pilsan
@aaron_pilsan 4 жыл бұрын
cool, dass du das machst! 👍🏽👍🏽🔥
@Lavovoyaye
@Lavovoyaye Ай бұрын
You help me immensely, I was a bit scared when I was given this to try, I just had 3 years playing, many thanks
@ChrisKogos
@ChrisKogos 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you!
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked the exercises!
@rothschildianum
@rothschildianum 3 жыл бұрын
You are lucky to have a great teacher. My teacher was a child prodigy, he just does not know how to teach. He thinks either you can do it or not. One time, I wanted to learn Revolutionary. He said it is impossible..... He was wrong....! I love to show him that I can play Revolutionary. I even played in a competition.
3 жыл бұрын
Good for you! Nothing is impossible and I love your mindset! 💪🏻👏🏻 Keep going strong!
@legecla7302
@legecla7302 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the hardest Etudes by Chopin. Had watched many tutorials about this etude and will definitely try your advice .. thank you soo much! more power
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, have fun with it! 💪🏻 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@AlexanderDincht
@AlexanderDincht 3 жыл бұрын
I like how she plays the dynamics of this piece. Sometimes dreamy and grand , sometimes cautious. It’s nice to listen to it. Also , she is really right about the patience you need for this piece. It’s so transparent that you can hear every mistake. Unlike some other etudes, you can’t muffle it away with pedal. Slow but stead really wins the race. Personally I am not a fan of accentuating all 4 16th’s separately. It can cause unnecessary up and down wrist movement as shown in the video slowing you down. Especially when you use this piece also to strengthen the hand. Which for many is mostly the case. Grouping together the 2nd and 3rd 16th note will both strengthen fingers, and help coördination of the hand and train the wrist movement or flexibility you need for this piece. Also these chopin etudes you need to learn by heart. Start with learning the harmonic progression and framework of this piece. It helps with wrapping everything together. Otherwise nice tutorial. 👍
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your comment, such great input! 🙏🏻
@keramatkhajavi9671
@keramatkhajavi9671 2 жыл бұрын
You are unique, dear teacher...As always, it was great and professional. Thank you very much for this tutorial ... Please continue sending the video. It is very useful. And we appreciate you
@chriss6733
@chriss6733 3 жыл бұрын
That's so clear,and so helpful. Really nice of you to share your knowledge this way. Sat at the piano today with this one for the first time.
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, my pleasure! I am so glad that you found it helpful.
@Juscz
@Juscz Жыл бұрын
This is by far the best tutorial on this particular Chopin etude. Thanks for you hard work on the video and thank you as well for sharing!
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@andrewhicks8340
@andrewhicks8340 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!! I have started on this first Etude, and knew to work slowly and patiently, also the groups of four notes. Your other tips were new to me: I am excited about putting them to work. Also I will take to heart your teacher's counsel to play something from these etudes every day. It is going to be a long time before I have much fluency with this, and that is fine with me. Again, thank you!!!!
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I am glad you liked it and keep up the great work! 👏🏻👌🏻
@jamescao2008
@jamescao2008 3 жыл бұрын
You are one of the best professors to clearly teach how to separate the difficult big one to easier small pieces.
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! 🙏🏻
@a11wang
@a11wang Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the lesson. For many years, I have been thinking about playing these Etude without much courage to start. (don't have a teacher). Then saw other video a month ago, that gave me some hope. So I started, but the progress has been slow. I will incorporate your recommendation to practice everyday. Hopefully one day, I can play this piece from start to finish. Not in a hurry. Just any in my life time will be fine. Thanks again.
@FlorianCordier
@FlorianCordier Жыл бұрын
Thank you 1000 times for giving us some cues to work on this piece. I love it and couldn't play it as a kid, now I will get back to it and practice with your exercises.
Жыл бұрын
💪
@giuseppeT8091
@giuseppeT8091 2 жыл бұрын
Complimenti, davvero ottimi i suggerimenti per affrontare questo studio possente. Ho tentato varie volte di affrontarlo, ma lo scoraggiamento ha sempre prevalso. Il tuo video mi ha invogliato nuovamente 🤞
@jeffscop
@jeffscop Жыл бұрын
Great tips on how to practice. Thank you so much.
@javiercmh
@javiercmh Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! Will try these exercises out :)
@SYWPiano
@SYWPiano 3 жыл бұрын
I'm also trying to bring this piece back, and I found so many interesting ideas from your video, thank you so much for sharing!!
3 жыл бұрын
So glad you found it helpful! 🙏🏻
@i9avici7a5
@i9avici7a5 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you would have a video on this. You’re so generous with your time - thanks for sharing your expertise!!! After so many years I am hoping to make some progress in this etude.
2 жыл бұрын
All the best for you and have fun with the exercises! :)
@danielangelo4363
@danielangelo4363 Жыл бұрын
Thank you a lot dear Danae. Your tips are so useful. It's really kind of you to share your mastery. Your videos are really the best. Hugs from Paris.
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@PlayBetterJazz
@PlayBetterJazz 6 ай бұрын
I have been playing this study on and off for the better part of 15 years, some of those years I didn't even touch it but have been revisiting it again recently. I have tried multiple teachers, any and all practice methods, tutorials I could find. I still cannot get that damn descending A major arpeggio and descending B7 arpeggio during the climax (before the E major) at tempo. I will try these out! I''m still determined. I have a very strong love/hate relationship with this piece lol.
@Kastrn-b2b
@Kastrn-b2b 4 ай бұрын
brilliant! bravo!!!
@16_Okai
@16_Okai Ай бұрын
This was very helpful! Thank you!
@jamieo1048
@jamieo1048 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your sharing.I'm practicing this piece and your video is quit helpful.
2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻
@petergreen1869
@petergreen1869 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff. Many thanks maestro.
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻
@goognamgoognw6637
@goognamgoognw6637 Жыл бұрын
I am just back from practicing this in the first exercise, and i wanted to watch you demonstrate again because it is much harder than it looks when you do it.
@massimilianopicuno8979
@massimilianopicuno8979 3 жыл бұрын
Ottimo video, bellissimo. Utile, didattico. Infonde serenità. Complimenti
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻
@SOLOTU1ful
@SOLOTU1ful 3 жыл бұрын
Muy buenos ejercicios muchas gracias, estaba un poco perdida, respecto a como empezar a estudiarlo...
@user-tb1ob3jm5l
@user-tb1ob3jm5l 9 ай бұрын
정말 도움이 많이 됐어요 감사합니다 연주도 정말 훌륭해요 !!
@user-wk8cf8wx1d
@user-wk8cf8wx1d 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the video!!
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! So glad you liked it :)
@Kassiusday
@Kassiusday 3 жыл бұрын
I love Chopin very good news then !! I started as beginner straight to learn nocturne op 9 Eflat major ... ! ( Specific method ... will help !!! ).. oww what a beautiful piece !!
3 жыл бұрын
I love that piece, absolutely beautiful!
@redblue2743
@redblue2743 3 жыл бұрын
Great advice thank you! I just order the book Chopin 10 and been waiting. For now I am still practicing Czerny
3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! And Czerny is s great choice before Chopin 👏🏻
@k.k8291
@k.k8291 3 жыл бұрын
Good tips, and your playing is incredible.
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻
@4Finer
@4Finer 3 жыл бұрын
Very good! Thank you!
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, glad you liked it!
@pianisthenics
@pianisthenics 4 жыл бұрын
KHK's most favorite etude along with no.2! It's Phu here! greetings from Bangkok!!
4 жыл бұрын
Hiiii!!! Yes, so true, KHK loved these two. 😉
@shivankmenon4722
@shivankmenon4722 3 жыл бұрын
Who's KHK?
@Sokolovpianist249
@Sokolovpianist249 3 жыл бұрын
KHK stands for Karl-Heinz Kämmerling, I think. (Her former teacher)
@maxwell8762
@maxwell8762 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@metteholm4833
@metteholm4833 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! Thank you!
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻
@robertlivenmore1786
@robertlivenmore1786 Жыл бұрын
Very inspirational, and so beautifully presented. I discovered this etude when I was 18 and a beginner and tried to play it! I saw middle C in the first bar and thought, ok this should be easy. I was trying to do things myself without a teacher. Too bad because some guidance would have been most helpful at that point. Now I have recital plans, an encouraging instructor, and a couple of etudes (not #1) are performance candidates.
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful! All the best for your further piano journey and thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@andrewmorton3344
@andrewmorton3344 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your great ideas! I am hoping that practicing this etude will eventually increase the stretch of my right hand to roughly where my left is now.
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Your stretch will definitely improve when practicing this study. Have fun with it! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@lucasfrb
@lucasfrb 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I made an experiment in my youtube channel, just spent 2 weeks practising this piece and then made 2 videos (1 at the end of each week), and I was able to do it because of your tutorial, (i mention that in the description of my video), thank you very much!! :)
3 жыл бұрын
Just watched the video, great job!! Thanks so much for watching and I am very happy that you found the exercises helpful. ☺️
@Violinio100
@Violinio100 2 жыл бұрын
Безусловно у Вас дар педагога,но имея такую широкую звуковую палитру,вдохновляете к творчеству.Спасибо.
2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻
@songotenson
@songotenson Жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips. very helpful.
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@andy85s71
@andy85s71 3 жыл бұрын
Please, more video like this! I have subscribed your channel! Very very interesting!
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! More videos coming very soon :)
@mauriceamaraggi8098
@mauriceamaraggi8098 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Thank you.
Жыл бұрын
🙏🏻
@santysappia3576
@santysappia3576 4 жыл бұрын
Realmente muy buenos tus ejercicios. Los estoy aplicando en el N2 op 25 cada 2 compases.. Pienso ayuda mucho a enfrentarse de a poco con la velocidad final Desde ya Muchas Gracias Santy
4 жыл бұрын
Gracias 🤗
@thepianocornertpc
@thepianocornertpc Жыл бұрын
The first excercise are nr.12,13,14,15 taken from Alfred Cortot's methode du Travail.
@anar3915
@anar3915 2 жыл бұрын
That you, I believe I shall apply those tips to other pieces as well 😊
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, absolutely, have fun with it! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@carmirobertcrucerucontact7215
@carmirobertcrucerucontact7215 3 жыл бұрын
12:25 somehow if the movement just passively happens, and if it is a very small, it shouldn't be a problem. Great tutorial
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) And yes, I definitely agree. If it is just a small movement and isn‘t actively led by the elbow, it doesn‘t create a problem. Have fun with the study! :)
@marcindega9910
@marcindega9910 10 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot 😊
@Riedel777
@Riedel777 3 жыл бұрын
Great advices! Txs! Sounds relaxed, how you played it.
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@JoelHernandez-yl6yw
@JoelHernandez-yl6yw 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos have helped me so much! I’m ready to tackle these pieces but there aren’t any instructors where I live. Keep up the good work and hope to keep learning from you!
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! So glad you are finding the videos helpful :)
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 Жыл бұрын
You don't need an instructor. Chopin never had a piano teacher only violinists teaching piano.
@JoelHernandez-yl6yw
@JoelHernandez-yl6yw Жыл бұрын
@@ericastier1646 I appreciate your support. I have the fear of playing something, and getting into bad habits with my hands. But I’ve been doing it on my own for a few years now and relying on content this like one for help.
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 Жыл бұрын
@@JoelHernandez-yl6yw You're welcome. If that helps your motivation, i have no teacher and never had a piano at home. I have to go elsewhere and am learning this etude. I had piano teachers before and i can assure you these videos are more useful then they were.
@JoelHernandez-yl6yw
@JoelHernandez-yl6yw Жыл бұрын
@@ericastier1646 I promise you this is not spam. I just got this recommendation for a video on Chopin’s hand and finger movement. Cheers and good luck in your piano studies. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldmda7iiudrXiHk.html
@dakkktory6645
@dakkktory6645 4 жыл бұрын
thank you I apreciate you cause you helped me a lot
4 жыл бұрын
So happy to hear that, thank you!
@tktthornton7104
@tktthornton7104 11 ай бұрын
Excellent exercises. It would have been helpful if you had given us the respective bar numbers in the second exercise (and if the grand piano had been tuned . . .).Really, thanks very, very much!!
@natevizzi2901
@natevizzi2901 2 жыл бұрын
wow ..... clean
@andy85s71
@andy85s71 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about op. 10 n. 4 and one about op. 10 n. 12
@cmenb67
@cmenb67 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful tutorial! I've been practicing this Etude and I will introduce these new exercises. Thank you.
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! All the best with it :)
@aaron_pilsan
@aaron_pilsan Жыл бұрын
amazing 🤩
Жыл бұрын
🤗😘
@goognamgoognw6637
@goognamgoognw6637 Жыл бұрын
You are incredibly good, i know how difficult it is to play this etude. For me the first page of this etude are the hardest arpeggio especially C major. The middle pages arpeggio that everybody finds so difficult actually are not. Everybody is using the wrong fingering and jumping on the wrong notes. I don't know why Chopin didn't write the fingering but once you find it (it took me years !) then that middle section is almost easy, it's even the place i rest my fingers because there is less difficulty. The hardest bar in the whole etude is the return of the C major arpegio.
@user-uy6op6en4h
@user-uy6op6en4h 11 ай бұрын
Какая у Вас апликатура в 30,32,36,64 такте ? Спасибо.
@adewaleagosu4630
@adewaleagosu4630 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this lecture. pls how about the finger placing on the keys . what and what fingers are to be used ? thank you
@mewcury111
@mewcury111 Жыл бұрын
hey!could you do a video for chopin op 10 n 5?it would be really helpful
@ranlynx8783
@ranlynx8783 3 жыл бұрын
I wish l can play this beautiful chopin l will do my best. You are so nice person!♥️
3 жыл бұрын
That’s so sweet, thank you so much! 😍🤗
@tsebobo3916
@tsebobo3916 4 жыл бұрын
Great!
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :-)
@LalzJeNeSuis
@LalzJeNeSuis 3 жыл бұрын
WOW, 1000th follow =) Thanks Danae.
@LalzJeNeSuis
@LalzJeNeSuis 3 жыл бұрын
Reminder for rythms : First exercise ; 2nd note first day, 3rd second day, 4th third day, 1st fourth day.
3 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you!! 🙏🏻
@AlessandroContimusic
@AlessandroContimusic Жыл бұрын
Very cleaver practice suggestions! Just as an improvement tip, try to re-study everything without using your thumb (yes, it's obsessive stuff, I admit it)
@goognamgoognw6637
@goognamgoognw6637 Жыл бұрын
If Op 10 no 1 was a mountain and me a mountaineer then i would describe my 15 years of trying to learn it as the whole history of the Everest ascent with failed expeditions and aborted routes and falling down the mountains and having to restart from base camp. I'd say i have never reach camp 6 but sometimes stayed at camp 4 and a few times just a few hours a camp 5 before it all fell apart with tension setting him, cramps and the hand becomes rigid and being forced to descend back down to camp 1 and even base camp ! The progresses are never permanent you keep seeing your technique fall apart and delearn your progress, exactly as Chopin said. I know the notes of this study as if it was the C major scale but still haven't summited this beast.
@ezequiel8465
@ezequiel8465 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!! These advices are gold for me!! ❤️
3 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻 so happy to hear this, thank you! 🙏🏻
@tfpp1
@tfpp1 Жыл бұрын
One lmore thing I do with this study is take each arppeggio (every 4 notes) and turn them into triplets like this: 1 note / 2 notes together / 1 note . . . C / G-C / E . . . etc. All the way up AND down. Slow tempo, of course and all that good stuff. I'm sure you could do something similar with various permutations of triplets.
Жыл бұрын
Great addition, thank you! :)
@toutouzim007
@toutouzim007 3 жыл бұрын
Super 👍 🎹😊
3 жыл бұрын
Danke 🙏🏻🤗
@clailai7865
@clailai7865 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your clear explanation! It's so helpful! I find your wrist going up after each four notes look very tiring.
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I actually do the wrist to relax it and make sure that it doesn’t get tense and tired. 🙂
@edalene
@edalene 2 жыл бұрын
@ so when speeding up and playing the entire piece, should the wrist still be constantly raised?
@jamiewhite6798
@jamiewhite6798 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. New sub
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! 🙏🏻
@marcosromerapiano
@marcosromerapiano Жыл бұрын
We will NEVER Thank you enough!!..Please come to Brazil...come soon!!! Pliiiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!
Жыл бұрын
🙏🏻🙏🏻
@CarlosValero
@CarlosValero Жыл бұрын
Amazing tutorial. Thank you very much! I wondered if you have a video or suggestions to practice repeated notes. I am practicing Ravel's "Alborada del Gracioso" and struggling with the sections where repeated notes appear..
Жыл бұрын
Here is a video on octave repetitions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d9qKdNOFt6ineIE.html Hope this helps! But also, I will make one on repetitions in general in the future :)
@CarlosValero
@CarlosValero Жыл бұрын
@ Hi Danae. Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my request and the link to the video. I really appreciate it. I have been looking at your other videos and I really enjoy the content. Thanks again!!!
@pompasduris
@pompasduris 4 жыл бұрын
Skip to 4:30 for the first exercise discussion.
@user-wk8cf8wx1d
@user-wk8cf8wx1d 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Lindsaayyy
@Lindsaayyy 3 жыл бұрын
Why can’t they just start it when the video starts LOL thanks for the timestamp I always look for these!
@Kassiusday
@Kassiusday 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lindsaayyy because some are like me pure beginners they need and deserve more info to introduce a specific coaching lesson 🙂 ... results are wonderful !!
@Gardener7
@Gardener7 2 жыл бұрын
Some very important things are said prior to this.
@martinschulze5399
@martinschulze5399 3 жыл бұрын
some of these exercises are contained in cortot's edition
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, a wonderful edition!! 🤗
@whatsmylogin
@whatsmylogin 2 жыл бұрын
Most tutorials on this piece recommend practicing in alternative rhythms or making the arpeggios into chords. I would ask why this is better than just playing the notes as written at a tempo where you have 100% accuracy and evenness.
2 жыл бұрын
Practicing the arpeggios in chords helps secure the exact hand position for every arpeggio and creates very helpful connections between brain and muscles. However, of course you still need to practice the notes separately to achieve accuracy and evenness. 👌🏻 thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@d3l_nev
@d3l_nev 9 ай бұрын
When do you think somebody should start learning chopin studies?
@goognamgoognw6637
@goognamgoognw6637 Жыл бұрын
I feel more comfortable with Op 10 n 2 than n 1, BUT n 2 injures my hand even though i feel no cramp or tense playing it. So i avoid practicing it even though i can play it through (almost).
@danielharris9403
@danielharris9403 7 ай бұрын
Q: Would you recommend transposition into other keys?
@r.j4449
@r.j4449 2 жыл бұрын
I already know it by heart. Now I´m practicing at a 55 tempo and I plan to slowly, maybe after a week or ten days, increase the tempo in 5-10 points. I began faster but I saw that I lost control and that in a piece so technically demanding I had to do it in other ways more accurate. Within a month? I´m planning months lol
2 жыл бұрын
Take all the time you need, that’s exactly how you should do it! 👌🏻 Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@r.j4449
@r.j4449 2 жыл бұрын
@ Sorry I did not see your response. Thanks for your answer. Practicing this stude so much almost caused me a tendinitis in the right hand or something. My hand did not feel normal 😁🤦‍♂It´s not carpal tunnel because I don´t have the symptons, but now I´m taking it in easy. Just playing it very slow now and then so that I don´t forget what I learnt but giving my hand a rest. This etude is not hard in the sense of that it´s difficult to learn it, but playing it fast with the perfect tecnique and without tension is the problem and the key.
@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool
@AllThisOverASliceOfGabagool 4 ай бұрын
Would it be worth an intermediate piano player learning this piece at a slower tempo?
@erickenn96
@erickenn96 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Danae.....would you practice Op.25 no12 the same as this etude or with hands together? What tips do you have for no12?
3 жыл бұрын
I would practice the first exercises separately, but then the 2-bar-sections in half and full tempo with both hands together.
@efthymislemonidis4283
@efthymislemonidis4283 3 жыл бұрын
Any tips to release tension and fatigue while playing this etude?
3 жыл бұрын
I would say to 1) make sure that your left hand is completely relaxed while holding the octaves so that there is no extra tension translarinf into your right hand. 2) move your body with your right hand to make the hand position as easy as possible. 3) use some of the high notes (5th finger) as “release points” in which your wrist quickly releases any built-up tension through a short forward motion. Hope this helps! :-)
@efthymislemonidis4283
@efthymislemonidis4283 3 жыл бұрын
Should all the notes be played legato? I have seen some ytebers in the descending runs actually shifting the hand rather than playing them all legato?
3 жыл бұрын
For me, some of the chords are not possible to be played legato completely, so I would also agree that the handshift is necessary!
@Ignacio_Suarez
@Ignacio_Suarez 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Danae. Thank you for your advice. I have a question on the page 2 (bar n°15 --D,G,D,E). How I must rotate my hand? because when I increase the tempo I lose my hand position.Ty
4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest not to stiffen your wrist and stay in the same position, but focus on the rotation and fluid movement in order to manage to play this passage. When I play, my wrist kind of goes down while playing G and then more to the right while playing D and E. Hope this helps!
@Ignacio_Suarez
@Ignacio_Suarez 4 жыл бұрын
@ Thank you so much! Best wishes from Spain
@henrikhillberg1623
@henrikhillberg1623 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! As an amateur I probably don't live long enough to learn to play in that final tempo you use. I have struggled some years with op10 #3 but it is still not floating. Hard work and harder the older you are. Anyway, good to have fun during the path. I wounder how professional pianists take care of their fingers. It would be a disaster to have a finger damaged so you couldn't place for some days. Sometimes I get the outside of the right thumb acing. Probably because it touches the left key when doing downwards arpeggios and not using the correct position of the wrist. Sometimes the fifth fingers could ace because they have been too straight and not bent enough when pushing the keys. How can a professional pianist play for hours in practice or consert without damaging any finger. Is it only a question of relaxation. Relaxation I have understood is very important. In the beginning it is very difficult and almost impossible. The more you play and practice the easier it gets. Maybe a tip to talk about in a video of yours is how to treat your fingers and hands as a professional. Nails not too short or long, exercises to perform outside the piano, good to strengthen the hand muscles by digging in the garden but not too much, use fingertip papertape if you haven't practiced for a while and lost the extra skin on the fingertips, etcetera. Regards /Henrik
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! It always makes me very happy to encounter auch dedicated amateur pianists that are working towards improving their technique in order to make music with many different kinds of pieces. Keep going, that’s so wonderful! And yes, op. 10 no. 3 isn’t an easy one either. 😉 Thanks for the video idea, I will definitely add it to my list! 🤗
@ericastier1646
@ericastier1646 Жыл бұрын
It really is about developping the brain perception of your body involved in piano playing. Much of piano playing is about muscle memory and the ability to create them. It is as much a study of the human learning process than the instrument itself. You have to learn to learn. Flexibility is crucial but comes from good practice. Progress depends very much on the type of brain activity you have while practicing. Nothing will miraculously be learned by osmosis over time, you have to develop a conscious intent of learning bit by bit and monitoring how your brain and body is learning. Regularity in practice is the most important. No special care is needed for fingers. If anything pianists hands are stronger than normal.
@rainmolderkivi2263
@rainmolderkivi2263 2 жыл бұрын
I am total amateur, and my dream is to play some day at 75% speed as you and other pianists are playing. I do small exercises and indeed there are progress. Fingers somehow has some memory how to hold your hand.
2 жыл бұрын
Yes exactly! Keep going, that sounds great and wishing you all the best progress with the piano! 🤗
@EmmolMe
@EmmolMe 2 жыл бұрын
Your suggestions were good. But one difficulty of this piece is also the stamina. The final performance you have done, it has been cut 4 times. I do not find it honest. 14:50, 15:28, 15:49, 16:16.
@jckhammer
@jckhammer 3 жыл бұрын
At what grade level should you approx be at when trying or attempting to play any of chopin's etudes. I made it to grade 8 RCM years ago in my early to late teens then stopped. I recently picked up playing again a year or so ago . Bern Been relearning my scales again.
3 жыл бұрын
I would say that you could definitely start practicing these exercises at a very slow tempo. The earlier you get your hands into these partners and the more you practice it at a slow tempo often, the more effective the end result will be. 😊
@jckhammer
@jckhammer 3 жыл бұрын
@ ok thank you for your reply and that totally makes logical sense . I love your explaining style on camera and your approach to teaching. Very unique and pleasant. I subbed , thanks again!!
@efthymislemonidis4283
@efthymislemonidis4283 3 жыл бұрын
How long did it take you to play this etude up to that speed?
3 жыл бұрын
I started it at the age of 14 and practiced it regularly for 2 years, very slowly increasing the tempo until I reached that speed.
@ganjamozart1435
@ganjamozart1435 3 жыл бұрын
Which etudes would you say are the most crucial to learn from op 10 and 25 for a solid basis.
3 жыл бұрын
I would say that op. 10 no. 1 and 2 are already a great basis, one could also add op. 10 no. 9 for the left hand and op. 25 no. 10 for octaves as well as op. 25 no. 6 for thirds, which is a very hard but also super helpful one!
@ganjamozart1435
@ganjamozart1435 3 жыл бұрын
@ Thank you for the quick response and advice. Strangely I find Op 25/6 the most playable 😂 and Op 10/1 has been a nightmare forever.
3 жыл бұрын
Wow! For me, it’s kind of the other way around. 😂 But that just goes to show how different techniques and hands can be.
@carmirobertcruceru1395
@carmirobertcruceru1395 3 жыл бұрын
@@ganjamozart1435 10/5 and 25/2 are good choices too
@MrInterestingthings
@MrInterestingthings 2 жыл бұрын
I've gotten used to doing the first one in many different keys . BMajor and Db are easier .Bb is very uncomfortable . GM is difficult a are A and Ethe black and white together make more difficult . I play 2 ,5,7,8,9 of opus 10 and 12 ,2, 11 aminor I used to practice every day now right hand is weak .
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that’s an amazing selection of studies, sounds great! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@alfieong8733
@alfieong8733 3 жыл бұрын
I really stuck on 8:46, measure22, first of all, I can't play fast, and then i will stop at the middle, it's like D#BA~BD#BA. i really hope this exercise will help me! Thank you!!
@alfieong8733
@alfieong8733 3 жыл бұрын
between A and B is really difficult....(I'm crying)
@alfieong8733
@alfieong8733 3 жыл бұрын
and also measure 33,34,64,70,72 is extremely difficult too... if I can play these fast and smoothly, I think I can finish this study...can u help me a little bit pls :(
3 жыл бұрын
The bars you mentioned are definitely among the most uncomfortable ones for me as well. Besides the exercises I mention in the video, I would also say that it could help to give the 5th finger a bit of an extra impulse (especially in the bars where there are the accents). When the harmony changes within the bar, you could also take a little bit of extra time to make it a bit easier. Generally, take your time and increase the tempo very very slowly, as soon as you feel comfortable with the tempo that you are in right now. Have fun and enjoy it! Hope this helps🤞
@alfieong8733
@alfieong8733 3 жыл бұрын
​@ Thank You! i will work hard on it, its a short piece, but really need to take time on it. I think it is because my technique is not as high as that level, but it is an Etude, I think it will definitely let my technique higher and higher! if I can play it smoothly! I will share it with you! you video l think can really help me, anyway I need to work hard haha
@efthymislemonidis4283
@efthymislemonidis4283 3 жыл бұрын
How long did it take you to master this etude.?
3 жыл бұрын
I started it quite young, at the age of 12 and practiced it a little bit almost every day. I was able to play comfortably play through it in tempo about 2 years later.
@townnet
@townnet 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, my hand only can reach 8th, is possible to play this?
3 жыл бұрын
Hi! Yes, absolutely. I think that as long as you can reach an octave, you should be able to play this study. I have also made a whole video on hand span and how to increase it, which you can check out here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5lhdK2oqbTVdYU.html Hope this helps! :)
@townnet
@townnet 3 жыл бұрын
@ Thank you so much.
@PianistStefanBoetel
@PianistStefanBoetel 4 жыл бұрын
5:02 What's the purpose of the wrist lift?
4 жыл бұрын
It’s to make sure that the wrist and all the muscles are completely relaxed after every section.
@PianistStefanBoetel
@PianistStefanBoetel 4 жыл бұрын
@ Cool! Will try that out.
@Sitbon08
@Sitbon08 4 жыл бұрын
Danae Dörken . Hi. Great playing. I’m studying the Taubman approach which focuses being balanced on the playing finger. I’d be interested in your thoughts on this demonstration video of the first Etude as there seems to be visibly similarities but also differences. www.golandskyinstitute.org/two-excellent-videos-demonstrate-the-taubman-approach-used-at-high-performance-levels/. Thanks
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