You mean that a person who spends about 2,000 hours a year operating a piece of equipment might actually know more about it than the self-appointed Internet experts? Well...that's disappointing isn't it...

@@buckhorncortez he's just an operator.He is not an expert like internet experts

Why should he cast that bucket, and beat the shit out of the rigging, when there is a dozer sitting down below who could push that shit up to him, think again asshole I ran a 2570BE and know about the abuse the rigging takes sand or rock!!

You are wrong, he is either unskilled or just don’t care. He has not been on this machine very long ,I know because the spreader bar is not bent like a horseshoe!

What he is haphazardly attempting to do is called casting, I can do that without even making a noise.

They are built in the state of vorarlberg (Austria) and are fully hydrostatic operated, so they dont use clutches and other parts that cause a lot of wear.

Nice, OUKRH5.... ALWAYS nice to learn something... Thanks for you input - it's appreciated....! G

this is more a duty cycle crane type dragline and nothing close to larger B&H draglines now made by Caterpillar, the 8750, which requires assembly on-site

As far as I knew from working for Komatsu/P&H, Draglines these days were just huge open-cut machines 3-9,000 tonnes, didn't really know there were still crawler cranes set up as small draglines.

@@OUKRH5 They are built at the Liebherr factory in Nenzing Austria, I have been there for training many times.

rambo38505 do you have a Facebook ramboo bro

Ya but slamming that bucket like that is uncalled for and really hard on the machine, none of the dragline operators do that where i work or our drags would be worn out

Anna Bortion machine now has 2500 hours only problem we have had with it is from the def system which is not related to tossing the bucket around which we still have not had any problems with.

It won’t hurt that bucket to slap the ground here and there, some landing were harder then others but he definitely had the touch where it counted and that was getting material into the feeder and not all over the ground around it. He could use to float the bucket a bit more and not bog the crowder winch so much. And lower bucket returning to cut a bit sooner and slower to save on the spool brake

He wouldn’t last one shift in a coal strip operation. You go replace that point sheeve because he lets his hoist rope pull to the side, and the shock to the machine by dropping the bucket. Must be related to the owner.

Kind of what I was thinking, who the hell buys a brand-new dragline for a sand and gravel operation.

Lol i see it the same way. So many here say bad operator as if the big chunk of steel gets hurt when falling 20 feet lol. No common sense people have.

PinkOld I wish that I could say yes but it does not. maybe liebeherr could work on this for future software updates, that would be such a great feature to have especially with these computer control machines. with as many electronics this machine has it would be an easy feature you would think? we have thought the same thing how nice that would be.

Yep, it’s like someone buying a lambo, but then only driving it 25mph in a 55mph zone everywhere they go. Same thoughts here with this machine, if your gonna spend that much money on a machine that powerful, use the power

I was thinking that very thing myself.

@@stnicholas54 I know a guy who nearly dropped a PC490 off a 25' bench because he was mining with his tracks parallel to the face. Also unconsolidated material.

you see this one? yeah, boring as hell and slow kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j5epibV8urXOdXU.html

Holy crap that’s huge lol. I used to run a 2 yd one. Took certain steel when we would rebuild it, heavy shit it was, think it was manganese

Soft landing there chuck...he's not bouncing it off granite boulders.....He could take the swing out of it a bit better so as to have the bucket land square, without slowing his tonnage/per day....

I'd say it's unfortunate for us to see how the bucket lands but it actually does cut the cycle time, means more productivity

I know nothing about this stuff, and I thought the same thing. Why is dropping it like that? Because it's sand? It's still abusing the equipment.

WHEN you bang your chain against the bucket it will wear them out faster . The crow foot is real heavy it will take a toll real fast.

Also did you read the comments at this machine is brand new when this video is taken? And that giant delay from when it lands from when he starts dragging the bucket in was a computer problem which wouldn't let you drag the bucket untill it let you... That has since been fixed. In retrospect I probably should have never posted this video until he had the hydraulic brakes all electronic machine figured out better they're obviously allot different than the old Northwest mechanical drag lines. We had before.

We`re also doctors, let us know if you need medical advice

You should see the number of self-appointed, nuclear physicists that comment on atomic bomb testing videos...

@ and I, another self appointed expert, will inform you that not only is the person doing the wiring wrong... but so are you.

If you look carefully, you'll see that he's feeding the processor as fast as the processor can move the material.

Drew Hall based out of Nw Iowa

Drew Hall yes I did replace the northwest not this current one though the one sitting next to it is a model 6 the one who replaced was a Model 95 WT around a three and a half yard machine

KeenLaF gravel. For use on gravel roads in Iowa.

5 yard bucket, and what look like 30-second cycles. Figure 600 yards an hour in full swing.

I was thinking to myself "They actually make these like they used to", of course albeit with modern hydraulics and hygrostats instead of disc and shoe clutches :P

@@Pow3llMorgan ya what i was thinking, too , being it a newer uptodate machine, yet still cost effective or they would not make them ,kinda cool

Digging depth and radius an excavator would never be able to compete with a dragline without taking layers. this way the gravel can be mixed top to bottom.

doesn't excavators have long arms now?

Long arm excavator has less than 1 cubicmeter bucket so it's not productive

Check out my channel you'll find that we are feeding a rock crusher

You would need a really really big long reach to move the same amount of material as this. we are currently using a 6yd bucket moving material from 45ft deep with a somewhat larger radius than Long reach could reach. On a good day if our crusher don't break down we can move up to 10,000 tons a day. The size of a long reach you would need to compare to this dragline I would imagine would be way too big to move from site to site.... We are portable operation that usually moves seven times or more a year

Thanks for reply looked like soft enough material you could put large size bucket on a trackhoe and the speed of the machine might make it worth while but cool to see dragline in action

@@Tomhellyer Totally agree. At first it's a buzz operating ADTs and excavators, but after a few years, especially on big bulk muck shifts it just becomes mind numbingly boring. Load at point A, tip at point B for a 12 hour shift six or seven days a week.

Said no one ever!!

If it still had the same operator then I’d suggest it’s wrecked

Been a long time since those roamed the Earth.

In this video is a 5 cubic yard we we're still breaking in the machine now we are running a 6 cubic yard

I was thinking the same thing. Made me think, how much weight can that winch pull in? Imagine the strength of one of those old huge draglines.

Henry Janice I was thinking the same thing

Larry Poston the worst "operator" I've ever seen.

Hell, I'm not even an operator and I could see that he was badly abusing the whole rig, cables, pulleys, bucket, chains, even the boom, doing that stupid high speed drop.

There is as much as a 5 second pause from the time the bucket “crashes” until all the slack is taken out of the dump line and so forth and digging resumes. Beginners always do this. You can avoid this even when casting to the outer range of the machine. The technique must be carefully developed over time to avoid risk of damaging the machine. It is subtle, but quick, smooth, and a “next level” sort of thing. Dropping the spreader bar on the bucket is absolutely unnecessary unless you are digging underwater and can’t help it. Problems with casting technique can be identified from the moment the bucket was emptied that I will not get into. This pit clearly has one of those special cultures.

Just had to watch it again no digging plan anyway now I can go and puke

1.3m USD in 2016

jetegtmeier71 we're portable so we are all over in the northwest corner.

cool cool just wondering ,I'm in Waterloo :)

My grandfather used to have a couple of drag lines for his gravel pit operation near Charles City. I remember riding in one once when I was a kid…but cannot tell you anything about it. I do know you don’t want to park them on the edge when heavy rains are coming!

A good operator is poetry in motion!

دزو بعد الفيدوات

Я вот тоже смотрю и не понимаю, зачем такой тяжёлый противовес

Id like to know which mine it is cause ive hauled out of just about every single one in iowa lol

Infandous Ktenology the machine only had around 50 hours on it during the making of this video it now has close to 2,500 hours on it obviously the operator is a little bit more used to the machine now we still have had zero problems with the machine and or bucket. I still don't understand why there's so much hate when there is no problems being made to the machine and or bucket. But obviously everybody gets a keyboard and they get really tough and how awesome they are at life. but I will agree if you are casting more than likely you do not have enough boom but in this case we decided to run the bigger bucket with shorter Boom for more productivity which means tossing it out little further to get the depths we were trying to achieve. I will try to get some time to upload a new video and how the operator works now since there is so much hate on this one but hey I guess everybody knows how to run a brand-new dragline in the first 50 hours that is completely electronic controlled and completely different than an old manual dragline.

@Infandous Ktenology such an insightful reply from someone who has such extensive experience from running draglines... oh I mean keyboards.

rambo38505 I think you’re doing just fine! I’ve seen the videos of you guys running the old NW. Could tell you didn’t need any coaching at all. Don’t let those jealous dragline operator wannabes get to ya!

DieselTech73 this thing can reach much further down

Don't you have any thing better to do than comment on the same video that you already commented on from 4 years ago... By the way we are still using the same bucket from 4 years ago.... But I'm sure I'll see another comment from you saying the operator needs fired because you think he still operates the machine as he did 4 years ago. And something about the poor poor bucket that were still using because it still hasn't broke..... My God people!

erichansen82 it is a wonderful machine we have had lots of problems with the def but if you want to buy a new one you better get ready to Pony up a lot more and 700k

ok ill be watching the used machine market in 10 years or so:)

I've seen them slam those into solid rock selfs just to break them apart. The sparks are amazing to see!

It would seem it's because has using swing momentum to reach out further then the boom. And the bucket probably doesn't care.

Mike D less fuel

this is not as large as built on site like the Cat 8750 dragline, it is a duty cycle crane built for production capacity and thus can be partly disassembled and transported in two or three transports

ONE guy to hire.

This is actually a county-owned gravel pit they wanted top to bottom mixture for road maintenance gravel

Waste of good looking sand.