Was nice to meet you both after getting evicted from the Nemesis queue. This was the video I was talking about that I had seen. Darren

mate eagle claw was running on open day riders where on it

lightwater valley will deffo flop now they have removed their thrill rides, they aim for a family audience but most families have older children, the only rides that would appeal to the older children are the pirate ship, eagles claw (running but not on their website) and sky rider. the slides are also really popular but with it being the only roller coaster like ride for older children the lines are all the way to the bottom of the stairs. Also lightwater valley need to work on its appearance, I don't expect much but they're are weeds all over and honestly it would look a lot nicer if they put more money into park maintenance instead of aiming their park to children.

The Ultimate looks like it will be permanent, they have removed the signs and trains. I don't think they could afford to take it down so have just abandoned it. The ultimate did need work so I presume they have used the pandemic as an excuse to get rid of it, along with raptor attack and the black pearl. I'm sure Lightwater valley will fail the same way American Adventure did, its basically following in the same footsteps. The new rides are seriously cheap budget rides and nothing special.