Lightweight Rippers: 2019 KTM 390 Duke vs. 2019 Kawasaki Z400

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KTM has changed the way we look at small-displacement naked bikes with the 390 Duke. No longer is it just a learning tool for new or inexperienced riders, but now, no matter who you are, if you can’t find a way to have an ear-to-ear grin riding the baby Duke, you probably don’t have a pulse.
Cue the Kawasaki Z400, for Team Green's entrant to class, the naked version of the Ninja 400. How does the new Z400 compare to the 390 Duke? Let's find out.
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@normanhughedicko4076
@normanhughedicko4076 5 жыл бұрын
After owning the Duke390 for 2 years I finally trade in for the Kawa Z400...No regrets..Yes the Duke is torquey from low rpm which is good for city riding..But again lose juice around 90mph and with the counterbalance shaft againts vibration its quite struggling at 95mph on long freeways...I used to ride bigger bikes but again the Kawa is something i feel more confident for long rides with my wife..Can’t deny the looks goes to KTM but again reliability and cheap parts is my preferences
@bearlusconi3915
@bearlusconi3915 5 жыл бұрын
im the only one who prefer kawasaky estetic?
@Will-uu8ed
@Will-uu8ed 2 жыл бұрын
Did you find them much different in comfort levels? I'm 6 ft 2 and wondered if either was better for a taller person
@Try2KeepUpK
@Try2KeepUpK 2 жыл бұрын
I got the saki for the same reasons you said
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 2 жыл бұрын
Well i dont cruise at 90+ mph but are these things buzzy at all at 70-75mpg?
@krrishgupta6131
@krrishgupta6131 2 жыл бұрын
@@bearlusconi3915 no bro, I'm also in Kawasaki esthetic!
@kermit8619
@kermit8619 3 жыл бұрын
Got a Z400 in July 2019 . I now have 41,500 KM on it and it run A1 . Started to use Amsoil 10W40 after the break-in . Very happy with the little bike .
@yuriteixeira5816
@yuriteixeira5816 3 жыл бұрын
Mind me asking for your height?
@kermit8619
@kermit8619 3 жыл бұрын
@@yuriteixeira5816 1.76 Meters .
@lucasc2945
@lucasc2945 3 жыл бұрын
Dang you put 40,000 on yours already hows it holding up so far? I've got 7600km on mine and most people think that's a lot for a 2 year old bike. Unfortunatly its snows 8 months of the year here. Change my oil every 1000 royal purple synthetic.
@kermit8619
@kermit8619 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasc2945 Now at 48,000 KM . Second valve check next week with new spark plug and air filter . Not a single problem except the chaine failing ( just one bad link ) at around 30,000 KM . Can't ask for better than this . Ps. I just got a new Suzuki SV650X so I put a way less KM on the Z400 :-) Ride safe buddy !
@kermit8619
@kermit8619 3 жыл бұрын
@Alex To run A1 : Run perfect
@joshuavanochten3619
@joshuavanochten3619 4 жыл бұрын
1:40 dude on the left totally just almost passed out 🤣
@Dankfz1
@Dankfz1 4 жыл бұрын
Haha he's just in his head thinking "blah blah blah shut up so we can ride" I love that they kept that shot.
@charlesbrown8879
@charlesbrown8879 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that they left that in lmao
@scee8474
@scee8474 4 жыл бұрын
Jason Hart jesus that was weirdly aggressive
@charlesbrown8879
@charlesbrown8879 4 жыл бұрын
@@BEEBEE159 I am american...
@charlesbrown8879
@charlesbrown8879 4 жыл бұрын
@@BEEBEE159 No thanks, but I appreciate the offer
@keerthivignesh7188
@keerthivignesh7188 4 жыл бұрын
The way duke takes on the twisty roads looks absolutely mad😱,the level of performance on offer on such a lower CC bike is just incredible, brilliant chassis by KTM
@numberonetopgun
@numberonetopgun 5 жыл бұрын
The Duke being a single cylinder is going to need a new top end every so often, its just the nature of the beast. The bike it self is cheap but KTM parts are very expensive compared to Kawasaki parts. Something to be aware of before buying one. EDIT: THIS IS FOR U.S. BUYERS. The ways tariffs are Japanese bikes are ALWAYS CHEAPER then the European bikes in the states.
@baconwhip
@baconwhip 5 жыл бұрын
It's the other way around, kawasaki is one of the most expensive brand to buy parts for.
@numberonetopgun
@numberonetopgun 5 жыл бұрын
@@baconwhip Maybe if you live in Austria. Japanese bikes are always cheaper to buy and repair.
@DearMajesty
@DearMajesty 5 жыл бұрын
@@numberonetopgun or if you live in India
@aut0tech
@aut0tech 5 жыл бұрын
@@numberonetopgun in india ktm prices are way to less when compared to Kawasaki Kawasaki wants to be *so called* premium brand here
@actually4660
@actually4660 5 жыл бұрын
@@aut0tech No in India Kawasaki bike is expensive but parts are cheaper than Duke 390.
@paulb6295
@paulb6295 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison but I wish you guys would've discussed maintenance intervals and overall cost of ownership.
@paintup46
@paintup46 5 жыл бұрын
Last couple videos are really gettin better. Good work dudes.
@loduke3905
@loduke3905 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 2019 KTM Duke 390 as my first bike Wednesday... I have done every bit of research I could on all the suggested beginners bikes but it’s funny that the KTM was the bike I saw that got me itching for a motorcycle. I kept going back and forth on buying a used vs new, private or dealer, and ultimately decided on opting for the KTM when I got a hell of a deal. I got a 2019 KTM 390 Duke Brand new, zero miles for WTD price of $4500. It was a no brainer. I love the bike. I already added a wind screen as she’s going to be my commuter on most days. Gonna throw on a slip on later down the road but the biggest issue I am having is the seat height. I’m 5”6/5”7 chick and I am fine with everything BUT mounting. The Duke wants to sit up right and she likes to sit high. Problem is that when I mount her and go to place my right leg over she wants to buck you off and tip onto the right side. I’m buying a adjustable side stand which hopefully will resolve the issue and make it easier for me to get on with a better lean angle. If need be I will have her lowered as well. Point being... if you’re interested in the Duke and 5”8 and under, be prepared to do some mods to ride comfortably, especially if this is your first bike. I am have a lot of fun and regret nothing but I know I could’ve had them lower it and throw it into my purchase price. Oh well. Lesson learned. For the money, KTM knocked it out of the park. ABS, traction control, Slipper Clutch, Upside down Fork, LEDs, the display and of course the tech on this bike is sick. I love that it has Bluetooth and I can upload my directions/maps on to it, listen to music as well as answer calls, all at the tips of my fingers. The ability to turn abs off, or go supermoto, and the track feature is cool. It’s a great bike, highly recommend. I did test drive a Duke before buying but apparently they changed the seat height and I thought it was still 30”... well it’s really 32” on my years. Great review guys.
@robl3415
@robl3415 4 жыл бұрын
I am 5,10" and it was just right when i went to go sit on one today. I would imagine at 5,7" it would be a little challenging. Is this for first bike? I am really trying to convince my wife to let me buy it. I live in NYC and think it would be a great commuter.
@desertf0xgaming698
@desertf0xgaming698 4 жыл бұрын
Rob L hopefully im getting the duke too after all this coronavirus thing is over. I havent had the chance to sit on both of them, might do thta later too. My concern is seat height since I’m 6’3”. I hope it fit me well, really liking the duke so much..
@sorrymybrad
@sorrymybrad 2 жыл бұрын
hold on, the 390 has bluetooth and navigation? i thought it wasnt available on anything but the 1290. did you have to go to a dealer to unlock it? or did you get it like that from the factory? and did you have to pay anything extra for it? if so, how much?
@easye1311
@easye1311 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this detailed review .. I'm the same height as you so are you saying I will not be able to flat foot it? That's a big deal foe me as a new beginner..Kawasaki is great too low seat height cheap and reliable parts for the most part ...ABS for both bikes is great..I think I'll go with the z400 ..
@glenndeason
@glenndeason 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the smaller displacement comparison. It really helps me as a newer rider to get a wider perspective on my options.
@principlemethods5281
@principlemethods5281 3 жыл бұрын
What are you looking at getting?
@Partnerthedog
@Partnerthedog 2 жыл бұрын
I started on a CB300F 2016 its perfect for beginners, 6 speed fuel injected single 296cc goes 100mph and 0 to 60 in 6 seconds. And honda are, yes boring but the most reliable bikes of them all. I plan for a z400 for my next sportbike. Im getting an XT225 first though dual sport
@RonaldBrowerusnret.
@RonaldBrowerusnret. 3 ай бұрын
Not only a wider perspective but it also helps you decide which one to buy.😘
@RonaldBrowerusnret.
@RonaldBrowerusnret. 3 ай бұрын
​​@@PartnerthedogI wish everyone would get experience in the dirt before their road going days. Less people would be crashing. As your skill increases you will be starting to want a bit more. It's inevitable. A six hundred would be a better choice. You're going there eventually. If you have the knowledge of what to do, how to control a bike so that you do not drop it while maneuvering at very slow speed, it's the same if you gained ten pounds, or one thousand pounds. You get used to the weight and handle it accordingly. There are little adjustments to make because of the mass, but it's easy A half a ton of Honda Gold Wing is light as soon as you are underway. It is still mammoth, but mammoth is fun too. Maybe your next bike is going to be a liter bike. Just get the training and you'll be just fine. But you won't be soon wishing for more.
@Partnerthedog
@Partnerthedog 3 ай бұрын
@@RonaldBrowerusnret. it's been a while... I owned a few yamaha MT07 and now a ducati hypermotard!
@mishimposble
@mishimposble 5 жыл бұрын
Can i have the reliable kawi engine in the sexy duke chassis?
@MrPink2024
@MrPink2024 5 жыл бұрын
*Exactly* 👍
@falconknowledgey
@falconknowledgey 5 жыл бұрын
The new dukes are much more reliable than the older models.
@mishimposble
@mishimposble 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they are. Its a great looking bike. 2 cylinders would be more appealing though.
@YamahaR12015
@YamahaR12015 5 жыл бұрын
KTM has come a long way in reliability from what I've seen. Just cant find a dealership
@srimansanjit6588
@srimansanjit6588 5 жыл бұрын
Will said bro
@angshumansarmah6626
@angshumansarmah6626 5 жыл бұрын
Well I'm surprised to see the pricing of these 2 bikes in the USA. Here in India, it's totally different. You get the kTm at the half of the price of the Kawasaki. The 390 Duke we have at around like $3700 and the Ninja 400 at around $7500. The Z400 isn't yet released here. Though there is a HUGE price margin gap between these two here. Great video as always. Ride Safe ✌️
@thebigwarthog
@thebigwarthog 5 жыл бұрын
Angshuman Sarmah KTM is made in India that’s why
@gprcamp1435
@gprcamp1435 5 жыл бұрын
That has everything to do with the KTM being made in India. No import tariffs, no transportation, etc.
@aut0tech
@aut0tech 5 жыл бұрын
@@thebigwarthog yeah ryt bro But the bmw 310s are expensive here than in America They r too made here 😅
@angshumansarmah6626
@angshumansarmah6626 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pointing out at the margin gap and the price of the Kawasaki. I don't exactly know why Kawasaki has increased the price tag of the Ninja 400 by around $2000 in India compared to the as Ninja 300 was but the price remains same in USA I know KTM is made in India and that's why it's priced low. Why wouldn't I know 😄 I'm from India too.
@pr00shit
@pr00shit 5 жыл бұрын
wow... thats crazy!!! in my country the kawi is like 300$ more expensive only.
@oldftrpilot2593
@oldftrpilot2593 5 жыл бұрын
Been riding Sport bikes since 1965. Got up to a ZX-12 and Numerous Duc’s but as John said I have been downsizing for about 10 years and I have never had more fun than the KTM 390. Had to get it cause my wife hogged her old Duke 640 and I wanted to keep up. John and Egan have been my gurus since 35 cent gas.
@mega-hb4re
@mega-hb4re 4 жыл бұрын
The Duke is really good looking but nothing like kawi engine and reliability.
@pranaym3859
@pranaym3859 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tanmay_390 Even with same maintenance I'm sure kawi's engine will last more
@brodavid9960
@brodavid9960 4 жыл бұрын
KTM 390's have overheating issues. Even the newer models that supposedly were "fixed" still overheat in warmer environments...
@mustafaalbarak9157
@mustafaalbarak9157 4 жыл бұрын
@@brodavid9960 YOUR MOTHER!!!! (has overheating issues!!)
@Unique_Racing
@Unique_Racing 4 жыл бұрын
Bro David that’s the RC390 lol the duke haven’t heard about that on the newer models , the RC390 people like to keep the revs highs at all times and you can’t do that lol have to cool the engine down 😂 do you watch moto3 ?
@pavantejareddy4883
@pavantejareddy4883 4 жыл бұрын
@@Tanmay_390 who said that ktm parts are cheap
@christopherdubas7302
@christopherdubas7302 3 жыл бұрын
Finally two guys who know what they are talking about and do not beat around the bush. Good job!
@kylesharpstudios6794
@kylesharpstudios6794 5 жыл бұрын
I just got a steal on a brand new 2017 390 Duke for $4,000. I can safely say it's the most fun I've ever had on two wheels.
@Shane101A
@Shane101A 5 жыл бұрын
4k, that's insane. Good for you bro.
@theindianspeedster8229
@theindianspeedster8229 5 жыл бұрын
Initial models which were launched in 2017 had some minor issues but KTM was kind enough to solve all of them with a software updates for tft display and new remap for ecu for better throttle response at idling ❤️
@rahularora3053
@rahularora3053 5 жыл бұрын
Damn, i didn't know it was that highly priced in countries other than India over here we get a new one for $4000 and yes obviously because it is manufactured here but damn the prices are really high, i bought a second hand Duke 390 2014 model for $1000
@nirmalyamisra
@nirmalyamisra 5 жыл бұрын
390 sells for 3,221 dollars ex showroom in India
@rahularora3053
@rahularora3053 5 жыл бұрын
@@nirmalyamisra I mean you add everything RTO, insurance etc
@thebayleaf221
@thebayleaf221 5 жыл бұрын
Both are great bikes to be honest. I have friends who rip around the mountains with these bikes. The only thing I cannot be sure about is is the long term reliability of each bikes(for those who want to use these bikes all year round).
@oo7Grexx
@oo7Grexx 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Just bought the 18 Duke 390 yesterday part of left over stock from the dealer and paid $5300 CAD is equivalent to $4000 USD. I can’t wait to rip around with this little bike. :)
@Obelix804
@Obelix804 2 жыл бұрын
Any problem so far
@lomparti
@lomparti Жыл бұрын
5300 for a brand new one? Thats what theyre going for used in Ontario right now
@christmg4682
@christmg4682 5 жыл бұрын
Duke 390 is more expensive than Z400 there? Wow Z400 is almost twice as expensive compared to Duke 390 in India.
@Tavinho502
@Tavinho502 5 жыл бұрын
Because Duke 390 is made in India sharing same engine as bajaj
@pauld.b7129
@pauld.b7129 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like we're getting ripped off, they charge us double for the KTM lol
@christmg4682
@christmg4682 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tavinho502 wrong. Bajaj shares Engine with KTM. Those engines are made by KTM but since Bajaj manufacturers KTM's bike there,they can use the engine for their bikes.
@Frukzo
@Frukzo 4 жыл бұрын
Same here in eastern EU, this duke is 60% of the price of the Z400
@gilbertos1984
@gilbertos1984 4 жыл бұрын
In India its 2000 dollars less
@calvin_dabos
@calvin_dabos 5 жыл бұрын
Nice thorough comparison. Keep it up!
@Slashoom
@Slashoom 5 жыл бұрын
1:37 Imagine John falling asleep... lol
@adnguyen777
@adnguyen777 5 жыл бұрын
:)) lol
@Traveller_piston
@Traveller_piston 5 жыл бұрын
Slashoom 😂😂😂
@sacinthasadaklum1304
@sacinthasadaklum1304 5 жыл бұрын
Wadak na
@dantheman4life
@dantheman4life 5 жыл бұрын
Ridiculous that my lady even pointed out that he fell asleep standing up.
@nastyscorp
@nastyscorp 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@florme6494
@florme6494 5 жыл бұрын
I wish the KTM design team came together with the Kawasaki engineering team and made me a duke 400.
@theindianspeedster8229
@theindianspeedster8229 5 жыл бұрын
Flor Me really that combo will be a killer 💪🏻
@d-nice2866
@d-nice2866 5 жыл бұрын
Aint the duke 390 a 400 or close?
@nyilsdn
@nyilsdn 5 жыл бұрын
I wish the same but the other way
@mitulchaudhari5561
@mitulchaudhari5561 4 жыл бұрын
Ktm is making a twin cylinder 490 series. Hope its more reliable than the my rc390.
@nakusahs
@nakusahs 4 жыл бұрын
A duke 490 Will come in a couple years
@adammorgan3017
@adammorgan3017 5 жыл бұрын
Had the 2017 Duke 390 for 1 1/2 years , no serious problems apart from condensation on the TFT display which they replaced. no over heating issues, but as the bike runs lean due to EU emmision law I fit a Rapid Bike easy fueling module which helps keep the pot cooler and have notice the fan doesn't need to come on as much.. Oh and the bike is awesome 👍
@mattjacomos2795
@mattjacomos2795 2 жыл бұрын
One of the better reviews online. I like the way you guys leave subjective opinions out of the mix and don't just talk about yourselves... Refreshing. I'm an experienced rider and I USED to own a couple Yamaha 1981 RD350LCs. The power to weight ratio (read FUN Ratio) is right close to these subjects. I sold the Yamaha(s) because by the time you get into the power band, the law enforcement overkill will ensure you lose your license and there's just NO way to ride an LC legally.... I always liked the ER6N, which was the closest thing to the LC in pure "feel" a little bit buzzy and a little bit twitchy and just about the same performance. But I have always had a soft spot for the Duke 390 and this review points out the Duke's advantages. looking at the aftermarket power commanders and so forth on the Duke forums it would seem that after overcoming the emissions tuning of the bike, there will be an acceptable level of fun and performance in the Duke. I think I'll be purchasing a 390 real soon. I didn't hear anything convincing about the ABS and the quick shifter, although I don't believe that is stock in the US. Also, I don't recall you guys mentioning the slipper clutch.
@darseyno1520
@darseyno1520 4 жыл бұрын
Can I ask what kind of one piece suite is that you are wearing and where can I get my hands on one.
@bangrunus420
@bangrunus420 4 жыл бұрын
Duke 390 : fun, cool looking Z400 : fast, reliable Personal​ opinion
@codegenesis34
@codegenesis34 4 жыл бұрын
I think you got the point here... One thing they don't mention in the video is the position. I think that you'll be way more at easy on the track with the Kawi rather than the KTM
@bangrunus420
@bangrunus420 4 жыл бұрын
@Bernd DasBrot duke has 43hp while z400 has 45
@bangrunus420
@bangrunus420 4 жыл бұрын
@Bernd DasBrot for me on most websites i see 43, also consider this Duke 43hp​ at 9500 rpm 37nm at 7000 rpm Z400 45hp at 10000 rpm 38nm at 8000 rpm 1 cylinder bikes have harder time reaching top speeds
@radgiegamer935
@radgiegamer935 4 жыл бұрын
siwavong yodnoo that power will delivered completely different in the duke though, you will get better torque through the low and mid range early on, which in my opinion is better and more fun
@khalildemetillo7304
@khalildemetillo7304 3 жыл бұрын
Duke: issues on engine but fun to use. Z400: fast acceleration, much reliable and good for long ride.
@tysonmissile5104
@tysonmissile5104 5 жыл бұрын
The turn indicators are huge on this KTM, the Duke 390 we get else where has small LED units 🧐
@ralphwarom2514
@ralphwarom2514 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing content as always.
@davyboycolon530
@davyboycolon530 5 жыл бұрын
I like the ktm but I've owned Kawi's n they r dead reliable n cheap to own . I hear ktm 390's still overheat . I would keep the savings and update a few things on the Kawi . I would take the Kawi for sure
@Shane101A
@Shane101A 5 жыл бұрын
Plus the warranty on ktm doesn't cover the electronics.
@dwaijgenforce2439
@dwaijgenforce2439 5 жыл бұрын
@@Shane101A on my ktm duke 390 they changed the TFT-display on warranty 🤔
@mateobecker6530
@mateobecker6530 5 жыл бұрын
@@Shane101A that´s not true!
@sprakatutis
@sprakatutis 5 жыл бұрын
I live in a tropical country and it's already summer time here and it doesn't overheat at all. For warranty, at least here in Philippines, electronics is included.
@42much1
@42much1 5 жыл бұрын
@Mário Pereira Where are you from? Portugal? Your opinion is really important for me , because after this video my intention is to replace a Honda XRE 300 for this KTM. What can you tell more about your ex bike woes...
@rudedog3529
@rudedog3529 5 жыл бұрын
The only weakness I have found with the Z 400 is the clutch springs. Slips bad in high rpm shifts. It only has 3 plates and 3 springs. __A set of Barnet springs for about $ 30 is the cure.
@rebman5150
@rebman5150 2 жыл бұрын
Please send me more info. Mine slips when I get on the gas at 5000 rpm or more.
@loganmw
@loganmw 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebman5150 like he said, barnet clutch springs. I got a set for my z400 because i’m having the exact same issue
@rebman5150
@rebman5150 2 жыл бұрын
@@loganmw I actually changed out my springs. Didn't have to do the rod or bearing. Mine is a 2020 Z400 and beginning in model year 2020, Kawasaki used the shorter rod and thinner bearing, but still used the weak springs. Slapped in the Barnet springs, and it does not slip any more, no matter how hard I get on the throttle.
@DoglinsShadow
@DoglinsShadow 2 жыл бұрын
1:05 eye roll 1:38 nearly falls asleep Most entertaining parts of this video
@robertsalyers1351
@robertsalyers1351 5 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are Very Helpful I just traded my pcx 150 in on the Z400....only road it 15 miles and I am Very excited I picked the Kawasaki
@robertsalyers1351
@robertsalyers1351 4 жыл бұрын
I've put 800 miles on the bike in 5 months now and I Love my Kawasaki z400 it's so light and fast for a 400cc bike....I feel 25 again every time I Ride it
@jeladsnikpoh1289
@jeladsnikpoh1289 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of your comparison, but like most KZfaq bike reviewers, you didn't mention the elephant in the room- reliability and cost of ownership! The KTM looks better, might feel a tad more torquey (not why I buy small cc bikes). The Kawi gives you a great bike that's far more reliable for less $$. Make that a Ninja 400 for me though! 🏍
@crazycrashcompilations346
@crazycrashcompilations346 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone see that massive eye roll at 1:05 when he said "the cousin"
@MrAlcmj
@MrAlcmj 3 жыл бұрын
He had an attitude the whole intro lol
@metalsadman
@metalsadman 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrAlcmj he's having his period lol.
@27Zangle
@27Zangle 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrAlcmj - The intro was kinda long, forced, and clearly several takes. I thought the attitude was hilarious as a kid's attitude with the parent that won't shut up when all the kid wants to do ride or play with his new toy.
@ampassionstruck9138
@ampassionstruck9138 5 жыл бұрын
Z400 is super refined, its a twin, parts r cheaper, doesnt need much maintenance , dpendable, reliable.....on the other hand! Ktm looks much sexier than the kawi.
@pritam0167
@pritam0167 5 жыл бұрын
Ciao my friend & Uncle Bob for making very interesting allover revealed shoot with awsome Photography..🙋‍♂️👍🤘
@TerenceKaplan
@TerenceKaplan 5 жыл бұрын
Biggest complaints on the Kawi were the seats and liking the KTM looks more.... I look forward to a rematch should the z400rs ever come out. :)
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 4 жыл бұрын
If it looks anywhere as nice as the z900rs, Ill take one. Get on this Kawasaki.
@BrokenFiddles
@BrokenFiddles 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see you guys again. I enjoyed the comparison. Based solely on the looks, KTM is a clear winner. Kawasaki's headlight and wheel design aren't my favorite.
@chris5k132
@chris5k132 5 жыл бұрын
In terms of looks, the 390 Duke is way up
@__7000rpm
@__7000rpm 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! What were Kawasaki thinking with that headlight design? If not for that, I would have picked the Z400 for it's reliability and the almost on par with Duke performance.
@andrewstambaugh8030
@andrewstambaugh8030 2 жыл бұрын
Get some vinyl wrap in classic kawi green and cover that orange up and you get the best of both worlds!
@craigbannister7826
@craigbannister7826 2 жыл бұрын
But for reliability not even close.
@SpaceApe020
@SpaceApe020 2 жыл бұрын
How can two people have such differing opinions? I don't know. For me it's the exact opposite, one of my reason to stay away from the KTM is it's horrible looks. Like seriously, that headlamp looks awful. Like really really awful. If I saw both of these on the streets, I think most people would say the Kawasaki looks much better
@joeglenn7323
@joeglenn7323 5 жыл бұрын
7:14 John and Troy think ,"These are nice, but I wish I was on that.'
@ReshardsAutomotiveWorkshop
@ReshardsAutomotiveWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my Aprilia V4...🤔
@bigjerm210ify
@bigjerm210ify 2 жыл бұрын
Saw the duke on the road today and it’s absolutely gorgeous looks so good rolling down the road.
@kartikeyan6578
@kartikeyan6578 5 жыл бұрын
Whats the music at the start of the video?
@corklj14
@corklj14 5 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for John to yell “get off my lawn” to the dude who rode by.
@davidtsw
@davidtsw 4 жыл бұрын
1:30 look at the old guy xD He's either an excellent actor or he's falling asleep haha. Hilarious either way.
@chuduckien
@chuduckien 5 жыл бұрын
In my country, Z650 has the same price with new Duke 390 2018 (Both ussed bike), Which one do you prefer for commuting. Can you explain with more details. Tks.
@entityofthevoid7040
@entityofthevoid7040 2 жыл бұрын
Ok best intro ever. I had to hear that like 3 times before watching the video.
@rocketj7449
@rocketj7449 5 жыл бұрын
Forgot to talk about acceleration and top speed? If I recall, the Z400 is slightly quicker which may tip the choice back to the Kawi.
@itsmybike1078
@itsmybike1078 5 жыл бұрын
promo guys are not allowed to tell you the top speed, theses guys are paid to say what they are told.. ever noticed they never say a bike is utterly pants? lol worst place to get a review, always watch owners reviews :)
@rudedog3529
@rudedog3529 5 жыл бұрын
Top speed on my 2017 KTM 390 was 99 mph. ___I got 114 mph out of my 2019 Z 400 on the same stretch of road.
@sneakerjoe23
@sneakerjoe23 4 жыл бұрын
Z400 is just so ugly
@rocketj7449
@rocketj7449 4 жыл бұрын
@शिरीष ರಾಮಾಯ your comment makes no sense. The heart can cause us to be emotional, which can cause us to be senseless. Logic and common sense can be muddied and unclear. "Listening to your heart" can cause people to make bad decisions. I know KTM likely has created the styling of this bike to move hearts, but when you look at the specs of this bike, it just doesn't compete with Z400. Sorry buddy.
@rocketj7449
@rocketj7449 4 жыл бұрын
@शिरीष ರಾಮಾಯ and who really cares what you think? To each his own.
@saccyind
@saccyind 4 жыл бұрын
Duke 390 can Never match the refined and silky smooth Japanese engine of Z400 . Duke 390 vibrates at lower RPM like any other single cylinder .
@danoff__
@danoff__ 3 жыл бұрын
Ive owned both here in bulgaria, ktm hands down, absolutely hated the kawa
@numberjuan5837
@numberjuan5837 3 жыл бұрын
@@danoff__ Why did you dislike the 400? I’m deciding between both and would love your opinion
@danoff__
@danoff__ 3 жыл бұрын
@@numberjuan5837 really boring bike and riding it on twisties felt awful, get the ktm, its better in every way
@sindthekid
@sindthekid 2 жыл бұрын
@@danoff__ felt awful how? right now I ride a honda grom
@njminer
@njminer 3 жыл бұрын
"The older you get, the smaller you like". After 35 years of riding that is so true. I think I'd still prefer a welterweight (550-750 cc) but I'm waiting until my daughter gets her Ninja 400 before I make my final decision. Living in the suburbs makes me appreciate torque over horsepower.
@avmc2821
@avmc2821 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!!
@mikethefz07guy79
@mikethefz07guy79 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my 390 Duke for 6 months and haven’t had a problem as of yet. We’ll see after 2 years (like everyone is saying here).
@harshgoel8288
@harshgoel8288 5 жыл бұрын
i own a 2017 duke 390, 20 months have passed so far, idk what will happen after 4 months
@gprcamp1435
@gprcamp1435 5 жыл бұрын
The key is not to over rev the engine.
@taylorpreston8502
@taylorpreston8502 13 күн бұрын
Have you found it reliable?
@ryanoconnor8004
@ryanoconnor8004 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2015 RC390 and race it I have had only small problems and the bike has nealy 30,000km on it. And here in New Zealand we pay $8 for 1 us gal of fuel
@shaktisinghrathore1792
@shaktisinghrathore1792 5 жыл бұрын
Ryan O'Connor 1 gal= how many liters
@fredkilian4049
@fredkilian4049 5 жыл бұрын
I feel for you. Here in South Florida gas is $2.20 /87 RO and $2.80 /92 RO USD per gallon US. ( 3.7854 Liter is one / US Gal. )
@drissgreen1280
@drissgreen1280 5 жыл бұрын
what brand of riding gear is troy wearing?
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 2 жыл бұрын
Is the kawi buzzy at all at 70-75mph and do u have any power left those speeds?
@mzk6550
@mzk6550 4 жыл бұрын
yep...i would take the ktm, i just love the way it looks. it's a true cali bike. thanks!
@arya7757
@arya7757 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys really it felt more real than our Indian reviewers and especially the background was what you call lit AF 🔥🔥🔥
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 4 жыл бұрын
I have owned a 2016 Super Duke Gt and recently purchased a 2018 Super Duke 1290r. Love the engine!!
@yashpandey8156
@yashpandey8156 4 жыл бұрын
Genuine video guys...awesome
@nitindabas1990
@nitindabas1990 4 жыл бұрын
I owned the 390 for three years and 35k km sold to my friend. Now it has almost 60. This bike is super fun but it you want to put more than 50k don't buy it. It ages badly and starts to fall apart. Has major electronic issues. Engine leaks. Harsh engine vibes in 1 and 2 gear. also it's not comfortable .
@kenspix
@kenspix 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I ride with a friend who has a 390 and he's had a lot of engine problems, (runs sweet when it is running well) but I want to know that I'm not going to break down when I go for a ride.
@sarahdell4042
@sarahdell4042 4 жыл бұрын
They feel incredibly cheap too.
@BikerwolFF
@BikerwolFF 4 жыл бұрын
You must get shitty 390's where you live... my 2016 Duke 390 is a few km's short of 110 000km, maybe a third of that off road... Here in Africa our summer temps are regularly way over 40 degreess C - no overheating... and I'm a big bloke - 6'5 and 97kg... So far I have had to replace one set of sprockets, 3 sets of brake pads and countless tyres (I ride it like I stole it)... no engine issues, nothing has fallen off or broken, even with some bad offroad conditions...
@nitindabas1990
@nitindabas1990 4 жыл бұрын
@@BikerwolFF good for you bro, I got mine when it was newly launched in 2013 so that might be the case. Ride safe
@riteshr9477
@riteshr9477 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitindabas1990 thank Bajaj for its legendary cost cutting tactics.
@nwmotog
@nwmotog 5 жыл бұрын
Host: dont giveaway where we are riding. Camera man: pans over state recreation area sign. 😂👍
@digitalnation2876
@digitalnation2876 5 жыл бұрын
the main camera is foggy or is it intentional filter/effect?
@darthkarroto2183
@darthkarroto2183 3 жыл бұрын
So hard to pick don’t know which one for my first bike any advice.
@OwaisAbbasiMrWOLF
@OwaisAbbasiMrWOLF 5 жыл бұрын
I like the style and structure of ktm duke and i like the power and sound of kawasaki z series.
@OwaisAbbasiMrWOLF
@OwaisAbbasiMrWOLF 4 жыл бұрын
@Bernd DasBrot i meant engine quality smoothness
@ytascoobs
@ytascoobs 4 жыл бұрын
Svartpilen 401, Duke 390 with out all the flash and a classic look 😉
@yuriteixeira5816
@yuriteixeira5816 3 жыл бұрын
And a 2k upcharge in the usa
@tanner1152
@tanner1152 Жыл бұрын
How are the seat height between the two? I’m 5’3” with 26 inseam
@limemeier5794
@limemeier5794 5 жыл бұрын
can I go for a Duke with 6‘4 ? Or does that Look like me Sitting on a Pocket bike ? Should I rather buy a sm?
@patrickcallahan2885
@patrickcallahan2885 5 жыл бұрын
Though KTM has some higher spec components, I think my choice would be for the Kawasaki. The twin cylinder versus the single may prove more reliable in the long term. As for me, I typically upgrade my bikes with aftermarket pieces anyway, so the addition of braided lines, or fork springs is a small thing.
@ws8080
@ws8080 2 жыл бұрын
All those reasons and cheaper in my market as well.
@solar8600
@solar8600 5 жыл бұрын
If you are on a budget maintenance is not something you would want to spend a ton on, so go Kawasaki if you want reliability.
@vinerod12
@vinerod12 5 жыл бұрын
i agree!
@Masters_Yukesh
@Masters_Yukesh 5 жыл бұрын
It is depend on where you live KTM Duke is cheaper in India
@solar8600
@solar8600 5 жыл бұрын
@@Masters_Yukesh I mean you will pay a lot in repairs and upkeep compared to the z400
@Masters_Yukesh
@Masters_Yukesh 5 жыл бұрын
@@solar8600 kawi spare parts also expensive in India it need to imported(long waiting time) from Indonesia As I said before it depends on where you from
@solar8600
@solar8600 5 жыл бұрын
@@Masters_Yukesh Thought you just meant the bike, you did not say anything about parts... By the way are there no Kawasaki dealerships in India? (Genuinely Curious)
@lewisglennie
@lewisglennie 5 жыл бұрын
I have owned the Ktm for over a year now, and it’s never let me down, and I wouldn’t change a thing
@piotrwawrzycki8815
@piotrwawrzycki8815 3 жыл бұрын
Troy where did you get your riding outfit it looks really cool, is it CE rated?
@ricardoa1661
@ricardoa1661 5 жыл бұрын
saw a list of least reliable bikes... KTM top 3 of least reliable , and i do LOVE the kawi green
@MTMoctor
@MTMoctor 5 жыл бұрын
I gota know the name of that 1 piece suit that Troy is wearing. Please let me know!
@BigRedtheGinger
@BigRedtheGinger 5 жыл бұрын
I knew your test road looked familiar! That whole area is fun to drive. I say drive because I'm still trying to find the time to learn to ride and get info on what bike to buy was a noob.
@kamilf9558
@kamilf9558 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys Thumbs up 👍 Thanks for sharing I was waiting to see the Top 🔝 speed for Both Bike 🚲 :) maybe next time Peace
@donaldsoncole3095
@donaldsoncole3095 5 жыл бұрын
Kawi all day long, just change that dreadful seat and add a top box in back for hauling stuff!!!😎
@jdroofcleanpw
@jdroofcleanpw 5 жыл бұрын
And go a tooth down on the front sprocket so you can get better around town use out of that rev happy engine.
@user-mb4xy2cz3t
@user-mb4xy2cz3t 3 жыл бұрын
If you're planning to have a 400 for more than one season or put a lot of miles on it, buy Kawi, that thing won't give you any trouble and just run.
@hamzzdz61
@hamzzdz61 4 жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to getting the duke but some people say the kawi is better in general, can any experienced rider advise me
@joebotz1243
@joebotz1243 3 жыл бұрын
Which one is better for someone who is 6-3?
@RobertSmith-le8wp
@RobertSmith-le8wp 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I love the KTM, and it is a great bike, I keep my motorcycles at least 4-5 years or longer I just don’t trust the KTM long term. Every Kawasaki I’ve owned has been absolutely perfect in regards to reliability, although I’m sure that could be said for most Japanese bikes. Currently I have a 2005 Kawasaki Z1000 and it does everything I need it to. I can’t imagine getting another bike in the next 5-10 years, that’s how much I love and trust it. I will say that the Z900RS is very tempting looks wise and I may get the Z400 for my wife as she wants to ride with me on her own bike
@HR-eb4vs
@HR-eb4vs 4 жыл бұрын
My duke 390 is almost 4 years old Ill be lucky if I get to keep it for life I wouldn't sell it because it so unique. It all about maintenance and caring for it like a pet. Take the risk buy ktm if you like it otherwise have fun anyways.
@yathishbl3757
@yathishbl3757 4 жыл бұрын
So my 390 will do 6yrs now (the first version) and the engine still performs well, getting a good mileage of 28-30kmpl and changed the sprocket ONCE... No other engine,coolant,suspension issues and i usually ride like a hooligan....have done 65k and the bike still touches a top speed of 100mph with little vibration(because you know the single cylinder) and most of all the only 2 times i had to get it serviced for parts was because i crashed !!! So mirrors,the side fairing stickers and rear wheel is changed!!! Now how's that for your reliability doubts
@joebotz1243
@joebotz1243 3 жыл бұрын
@@yathishbl3757 that's awesome thanks I'm really looking at that bike. Just curious how tall are you? I'm 6-3 I'm wondering if it's too small
@yathishbl3757
@yathishbl3757 3 жыл бұрын
@@joebotz1243 I'm 5'7 and can't flat foot on the bike however it's very comfortable for me and doesn't feel very big...also I have the first version of the bike and have ridden the latest version and it'sbetter than the first. It's better if you try the bike yourself
@joebotz1243
@joebotz1243 3 жыл бұрын
@@yathishbl3757 thank you yeah I'm going to have to go and sit on it I wish they allowed to test rides
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 5 жыл бұрын
In Colombia KTM DUKE 390 costs 1000 dolars less than kawasaki z400 so is a better choise than z400
@siddhantbaranwal5339
@siddhantbaranwal5339 5 жыл бұрын
In India it cost TWICE as much as the KTM does.
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802
@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 5 жыл бұрын
@@siddhantbaranwal5339 Because the ninja 400 is not made in India, mean while ninja 300 since last year is made in India and kawasaki doesn´t have to pay so much taxes to sell it in that country.
@siddhantbaranwal5339
@siddhantbaranwal5339 5 жыл бұрын
@@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 I think only the plastics consoles brakes tyres and stuff are made in India else are brought as a CKD. Ninja 300 sells for a price in which an American could buy a 400
@siddhantbaranwal5339
@siddhantbaranwal5339 5 жыл бұрын
@Pantos Soup MADE IN INDIA = KTM So prices in ₹ is 2.3 lakhs which is $3200 If it's made in India it's about 60% of the price sold in US. AND YES THAT INCLUDES PARTS which also cost less (60%) if you buy it from OEMs
@siddhantbaranwal5339
@siddhantbaranwal5339 5 жыл бұрын
@Pantos Soup I see so the parts cost the same ?
@rickymahoney6664
@rickymahoney6664 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I’m hesitant on the KTM is the color. Green is my #1 in almost everything but as a first bike I’m having a hard time finding anything better for the price over the Duke 390. If anyone has any suggestions I’d love to hear them.
@applenuggets662
@applenuggets662 2 жыл бұрын
That’s funny cuz I’m not fan of the Kawasaki’s green Color lol but in love with ktm’s orange color
@thresh86
@thresh86 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great vid! I rode yesterday the Duke 390, vivid fun, annoying radiator fan. Still trying to figure out what bike passed by you during filming! Loud, aftermarket exhaust, propably 4 cyl, was it an Aprilia V4?
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking CP4 or V4 Ape.
@AwesomeEricD
@AwesomeEricD 5 жыл бұрын
Is the KTM reliability improved ???? If not, I'd pick the Z
@AwesomeEricD
@AwesomeEricD 5 жыл бұрын
@WildSandwich You gonna have so much freakin' fun !!!! Happy wheeling, man !
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 жыл бұрын
Not sure. Would have to evaluate all the nuance differences between the Duke and RC. The RC is still behind the times cohesively. It's got a lot of ignored bits and pieces that need updated. I'd buy a Duke over the RC as things sit right now, easily. But, that sensibility factor in the back of my mind knowing that a Kawasaki motorcycle just isn't going to give any trouble and can be trusted for well past 100k miles with proper maintenance? Hard to get away from that, in spite the character differences. Just hope Japan gets off its proverbial butt and starts making interesting reliable machines akin to the good stuff Europe has been churning out in the last decade, especially in the sub 1000cc sport market. I've got a unmodified '18 MT-09 right now, and that 790 Duke is really calling to me. I'm hoping to get a test drive this year.
@jonasv19
@jonasv19 5 жыл бұрын
My friend owns a 2012 390. 30k km’s, he beats the crap out of that engine. Not a single problem, maintenance is key.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 5 жыл бұрын
@@jonasv19 Which is very true. However, people using the RC390 for club racing are doing maintenance, and using their machines to the limit. It's exposed a lot of issues (wiring, overheating, head gasket, etc) with the RC. Ari Henning has a video on that bike in full race trim.
@melvin5818
@melvin5818 5 жыл бұрын
I have no problems so far and tons of looks. I have heard from other riders the newer ones are having far less problems. So I think it's worth it if it's a 2018/2019 since they fixed the problems on those.
@johnsk3948
@johnsk3948 4 жыл бұрын
I am 1, 84 m... And 85 kg in shape... .. Am I too big for Duke 390?
@MZ-bl6wg
@MZ-bl6wg 5 жыл бұрын
What was the bike at 7:15????sounded great and had them frozen like medussa for 10 seconds staring at it.
@ReshardsAutomotiveWorkshop
@ReshardsAutomotiveWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I looking for... people's guess. It sounds like my Aprilia V4, but the R1 sounds similar.
@dr.dipendrakandel
@dr.dipendrakandel 5 жыл бұрын
Any news on KTM Duke 390 Adventure?
@pushbike1324
@pushbike1324 5 жыл бұрын
390 Duke is so much more desirable if you can accept that it will likely have issues. One of many vehicles for me so the issues have been no big deal! Great back road ripper.
@sindthekid
@sindthekid 2 жыл бұрын
is this still true today in terms of ktm/husqvarna reliability?
@Cemsicles
@Cemsicles 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone got a name or link for the full suit he is wearing? Dig it!
@CampbellZeroOne
@CampbellZeroOne 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too! Look like it's a kevlar rain suit.
@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist
@EvansBrasfieldMotojournalist 5 жыл бұрын
Del Rosario F-Light www.delrosario.nyc/collections/f-light-coveralls
@krixtian2318
@krixtian2318 3 жыл бұрын
Here in my country duke 390 is around 1500usd cheaper than the z400, wich one would you pick?
@klimairradosawcelinski2460
@klimairradosawcelinski2460 2 жыл бұрын
what kind of motorcycle suit you have
@zenden6564
@zenden6564 5 жыл бұрын
Kawi for me, engine durability over "cool" factor appearance.
@MrKdr500
@MrKdr500 5 жыл бұрын
for commuting Kawasaki, for absolute fun factor with heaps of personality....KTM!
@ChristopherP
@ChristopherP 3 жыл бұрын
The 390 Duke is a beauty, I choose it all day.
@JoJo-qx5wc
@JoJo-qx5wc Жыл бұрын
love how john pointed out how fun these smaller bikes can be,how they got plenty of power and is easier on the wallett with its fuel consumption
@ATDesign-
@ATDesign- 5 жыл бұрын
Epic video!
@Fuzzbuzzed
@Fuzzbuzzed 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vıd... Love Ur work.. U guys are my ınspıratıom
@ThePicc98
@ThePicc98 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 2020 Z400 and it’s something else! It’s amazing! My brother is gonna buy the KTM 390 so we’ll see ;)
@HansTacsuan
@HansTacsuan 3 жыл бұрын
Thoughts?
@ThePicc98
@ThePicc98 3 жыл бұрын
@@HansTacsuan I am so happy with the z400, I'm having so much fun!
@HansTacsuan
@HansTacsuan 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThePicc98 did your brother end up buying the KTM? I was wondering if you could compare
@ThePicc98
@ThePicc98 3 жыл бұрын
@@HansTacsuan I'm sorry but no, my brother bought something else so I can't help you with comparing them :(
@sindthekid
@sindthekid 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePicc98 what did he buy?
@markmacarayo6105
@markmacarayo6105 5 жыл бұрын
How about the top speed between ktm n z400?
@IamJay
@IamJay 5 жыл бұрын
Is there overheating issue for KTM Duke 390?
@captaintom9521
@captaintom9521 5 жыл бұрын
Quick fix, SPAL fan and Engine Ice coolant. I put black widow exhaust on my 390 which gets rid of the big catalytic converter and all the heat it's stores and allows air to move through the bike, while also dropping 8 pounds
@IamJay
@IamJay 5 жыл бұрын
@@captaintom9521 thanks for your idea.
@beliver1003
@beliver1003 5 жыл бұрын
I will also agree to them 390.....looks cool....390 is better💙💙💙💙💙
@beliver1003
@beliver1003 5 жыл бұрын
In India ktm price is low. ..it is half of that of a ninja 400..ninja will cost more than 7500 $ ...so Indians always prefer 390 and we have a lot of 390sss
@vivek3366
@vivek3366 5 жыл бұрын
KTMs are made in India and kawasakis are CKDs , hence why
@vivek3366
@vivek3366 4 жыл бұрын
@Bernd DasBrot Agree, let me re type. The KTMs which are cheaper than kwackers in India are locally made. 😀
@marksharp5486
@marksharp5486 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a duke and everyone who knows about bikes says theses are a very good bike to ride . I pick it up this week can’t wait .
@The.JZA.
@The.JZA. 7 ай бұрын
I’m 6’4” and i own the 2020 390 Duke and I love it. It’s plenty comfortable and punchy torque. If you core drill out the baffle/db killer in the exhaust it sounds a lot better too without being too loud/obnoxious. I love it. Awesome bike, looks cool, handles really well and is really easy to ride in traffic and on a faster windy road. The tyres are okay but they wear out very quickly so you’ll have to factor that in. I had to replace mine at 4,000km and I put on Michelin Road 6’s that are supposed to last a very long time have great grip in dry and wet.
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