Ligier Myli range test

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@donkulous9165 Жыл бұрын

When he started Jamming to "I like to move it move it" in a car that only goes 45km/h I started laughing so hard. Love ya Bjorn... Keep rocking the videos man!!!

@aarong9378 Жыл бұрын

This car makes the Mitsubishi i-MiEV look like a luxury car.

@moestrei Жыл бұрын

I Miev kinda has the minimum specs for an ev and was a great package (minus the looks).

@2phonesbabyken Жыл бұрын

Hearing the electric motor struggle to maintain 45km/h the entire time was probably the funniest part of this video

@lesbendo6363 Жыл бұрын

The motor. Bit seems loud, could barely hear Bjorn singing. I got to move it move it! 🇨🇦

@lete66222 Жыл бұрын

@@lesbendo6363true but have you heard disel powered mopedcars they are loud!

@nazzarenopisano652 Жыл бұрын

I initially thought, "Should I watch this one? Is it worth it?" I took the chance and you were hilarious! I love how you had so much fun embracing the limitations of this vehicle. Lesson learned - don't skip Bjørn videos!!

@gasdive Жыл бұрын

170 km range is fantastic!

@onlineactivityvideo Жыл бұрын

😄 so fun to see you driving this tiny car! I kind of like these little moving objects. 1000 km challenge? 😎

@pegefounder Жыл бұрын

For 100 km 133 minutes driving, 180 minutes recharging. So 10 * 133 minutes driving + 9 * 180 minutes recharging = 2950 minutes. Just a little bit above 2 days.

@Tyriama Жыл бұрын

Oh, this was you. Down Gjelleråsen I passed you when you let people past. We're not used to the 45kph cars here in Oslo. Much more common going out to the small towns. (Btw, the asphalt at Alnabru is "supposedly" getting worked on soon. They just redid the asphalt going down Grorudveien down from the Kalbakken T-junction and down to the 4-way with Tesla, as that was horrible as well with loads of potholes. One day we'll get to go to Alnabru without feeling that you're destroying the car.)

@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I try to let people pass me especially on places where it's illegal or hard to overtake. However, as I said in the video, many Norwegians are very passive and they don't overtake even if there's many good places to overtake. Ligier is so small that it's easy to look past it to see if it's clear or not. Way harder to look past a big tractor which typically also drives the same speed.

@udoeiblmaier25 Жыл бұрын

And now please the 1000km challenge.😂

@aarong9378 Жыл бұрын

That would be approximately 18 hours of driving and 42 hours of charging!

@firehog Жыл бұрын

We need north pole test too 😂

@vifgull Жыл бұрын

I like to move It, move It.

@flassi Жыл бұрын

cannot be last video, we need 1000km range test :)

@maxhazeleger2854 Жыл бұрын

You pronounce it like ‘lee shjé’, so far awesome vid. Love to see moped cars getting covered!

@jormungandr6247 Жыл бұрын

😄👍

@tesla-spectre Жыл бұрын

This one on the 1000km challenge, that would be a week's work 😂 I never undestood why they (ir the lae makers) put the limit on 45kmh instead of just 50kmh which would have made it less of a traffic blocker 🎉 5kmh make no risk difference but would make traffic a lot smoother

@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын

The law says max 45 km/h. Otheriwse 16 year olds won't be able to drive them legally.

@tesla-spectre Жыл бұрын

@@bjornnyland yeah same here. O was not clear, I meant the law makers with "they" ... stupid law

@henrikforsman2530 Жыл бұрын

In the EU you can drive these when you are 15 years old.

@jacopodeangelis3033 Жыл бұрын

In Italy you can drive mopeds + this type of car at 14 y/o, the legal speed limit for this type of vehicle is 45kmh but basically every one of them can reach even 70-80kmh because the majority doesn't have a software limiter

@ericmentzel5278 Жыл бұрын

the consumption and the look of the belt-drive-train is very similar to my Citroen Ami. Higher charging speed is more important than bigger battery in this class, like you said.

@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 11 ай бұрын

But charging speed is linked to battery size. If you double the battery size, you can double the charging power. The time for a full charge might be the same, but how much time you need to gain a certain range is less.

@ericmentzel5278 11 ай бұрын

@@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 a VW eUp from 2013 has a 18 kWh battery. It charges with 40 kW nearly 80% SOC. A eGolf from 2019 has a 35 kWh battery. It charges with 40 kW. So, back to the good old EV times:-)

@TheBoondj 10 ай бұрын

I am going to buy a myli epic. In reefblue i want to tak you for your video

@geemy9675 7 ай бұрын

@@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 charging speed is only linked to battery size once you are maxxing out the cells charging speed. here for instance 12kWh / 2kW (6h charge) it could peak 10x faster no problem even a passively cooled Leaf can charge 80% in 30 min. these smale cars are never gonna have 400V dc fast charging..

@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 7 ай бұрын

@@geemy9675 yes, I guess your right, with a 12 kWh battery, it should for sure be possible to have faster charging than 2kW. At least 1C shouldn't be any problem, probably 3C. I guess the major point could be the cost of larger chargers, as well as added weight. I haven't been able to figure out battery voltage for Ligier Myli, but I don't expect it to have anything close to a 400V architecture, to remotely allow using 400V DC-charging (as you point out never gonna have 400V DC fast). (As a reference I believe the Cirtoën Ami has a 48V battery pack. I'm not surprised if Ligier has a battery pack of similar voltage, and probably the same voltage for 4kWh, 8kWh and 12kWh configuration, just putting 2 or 3 modules in parallel if you want more capacity, to keep most of the design the same. As s minimum, I think an option for triple-charger would be interesting. 3-phase: 400V AC @8.7 A = 6 kW (3 chargers in star configuration) 1-phase: 230V AC @26A = 6 kW (3 chargers in parallel configuration) Or maybe just double-charger as an option too.

@andrewcooke8014 Жыл бұрын

Great little car. Thank you for testing it.

@jinny7 Жыл бұрын

....practically had Turtle mode from beginning.. lmaooooo

@benbeverley561 Жыл бұрын

This would work well I think in cities and suburbs like we have here in Australia, but would need to increase the speed to 60 kmh, which is what the majority of the roads are limited to. 45 kmh is just too slow and will slow down the trucks and buses.

@ahmednaim3413 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations for 300,000 followers

@frankelf3151 Жыл бұрын

In the UK this will be called a quadricycle like the Citroën Ami.

@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 Жыл бұрын

Quadricycle is the European classification L6e and L7e vehicles, respectively light and heavy. While the subclass L6e-BP are light quadri-mobile for passenger transport (like Ami and Ligier) And subclass L7e-CP are heavy quadri-mobile for passenger transport (Like Renault Twizy) In Norway all classes with 45 km/h max speed are called 2-3-4 wheeled mopeds. L6e-B are "light moped car" and L7e-C are "heavy moped car" (even if the later is not restricted to 45 km/h, but otherwise closely resemble) Some people argue that L6e-B and L7e-C are "not cars" because they are "quadricycle". Yes they are in that class, more specifically quadri-mobile. But what is a car? M1 class are: "passenger vehicles with a maximum of eight seats in addition to the driver's seat", several vehicles within M1 would probably not be described as "car". Car (according to Oxford Dictionary): a road vehicle with an engine and four wheels that can carry a small number of passengers I will argue that L6e-BP and L7e-CP vehicles fit perfectly well within the dictionary definition of a "car". Because "car" isn't actually a term with a legal definition, while quadricycle and quadri-mobile are. They are not necessarily mutual exclusive.

@Gazer75 Жыл бұрын

So the lights are more like the old school cars where the low and high beam has separate bulbs and the low beam is off with high beam on. Pretty sure cars I owned in the 80s and 90s had this light system.

@BoatLoadsofDope Жыл бұрын

Iook at these the same way as Tuktuk or Citroen Ami. It's a more refined cabin moped. The high beam low/beam are exactly how it works on mopeds as well.

@w0nd3rlu573r Жыл бұрын

10:05 I am surprised they even bothered to put high beams on this thing :-)

@alexjobs Жыл бұрын

I like to Moove it Moove it 😂😂😂😂😂😂 ❤

@kjh789az Жыл бұрын

A,B,C - Always Be Crazy! Not a car, more an escapee from The Simpsons! Thanks for sharing this alternative reality.

@thomaseriksson3182 Жыл бұрын

Ny frisyr!👍✌️ Snyggt! Bra video ❤ soundproof and suspension is not soo good!😁

@antoniocirino8444 Жыл бұрын

Now it´s time the test of the Xev Yoyo. There is the light quadrycicle version and the heavy one which can go up to 80kmh.

@longstoryshortless Жыл бұрын

Very Funny! Nice energy man, made my day)))

@seb. Жыл бұрын

15:48 best clip ever 🤣

@andersn8547 Жыл бұрын

KZfaq wants you to do 1000 km challenge in this!

@phiiz3r Жыл бұрын

Super handy little city car! If something like this can be made more efficient then fitting solar becomes a more attractive proposition.

@luxaly9510 11 ай бұрын

solar doesnt help much toyota prius has solar roof option... it ads 8km a day at best... that means sun is shining optimal and no shadow...

@Mehrdadi94 Жыл бұрын

review Electric vans too. last week I drove a Toyota Proace electric from Oslo to Hokksund and for the first time i understood range anxiety :))

@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 Жыл бұрын

Torally agree with the comment about battery size, and charging. I think smaller versions with 60 km and 100 km range could be interesting, as I expect the battery to be a significant contribution to the cost. I think the Ligier seems interesting, but I woudn't mind to save some on smaller battery. Chargning I think would be nice to have option for 3x10 and possible to run in parallel for single phaser 30 A, or 3-phase 10 A. then you could benefit some from 16A 3-phase and 32A compared to 10-16 A single phase.

@LoneWolf-wp9dn Жыл бұрын

yes but the range will be worse in winter... and in time

@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 Жыл бұрын

@@LoneWolf-wp9dn yes, of course, but if you only need 10-20% of the realistic range on any day, it seems a little overkill to pay for that much buffer.

@yhfsywfit Жыл бұрын

Bjorn any chance to review the Dacia Spring? Suddenly they r everywhere in 🇫🇷 France

@Danne89 Жыл бұрын

@10:00 The lights were like these on my Scooter Moped that I had when I grew up. Super annoying. I had to hold the "flash high beams"-button down to have both on at same time or otherwise I couldn't see shieeet...

@cadillaclover 3 ай бұрын

Very nice videos you have 👍🏼😀

@Joe-lb8qn Жыл бұрын

Hilarious. I want to see you test the Microlino.

@victormarian7889 Жыл бұрын

yes, at roughly the same price - only 10 % higher ! - the out - performance is much better, so hands - down ...

@jooptablet1727 Жыл бұрын

Replace the belt drive with a Model 3 motor, should be way more efficient (and powerful)

@seanwoo9140 Жыл бұрын

In Chinese market, the cheapest WULING mini EV can go beyond 80km/h😂, and cost less than 5k US dollars.

@michal_pasek Жыл бұрын

The motor is making exact the same sound like Citroen Ami.

@Croaker369 Жыл бұрын

When you were back home it sounds like there’s an alarm for a impending nuclear attack being sounded. 😂

@emgee44 Жыл бұрын

Recently watched your previous intro video to this car, interesting test drive. Would I buy one? Possibly, given the choice over a scooter and given the climate here in the UK, but the roads here are not much better than yours, in fact probably worse so and congestion would still be problem, at least with a scooter one could filter through the traffic.

@febrianadji5758 Жыл бұрын

Micro car isn't really that efficient from get go Overseas, GSEV lineup from Wuling marked something close to 80 wH/km despite being in similar dimension as MiEV without trunk space

@mkmproductions9257 Жыл бұрын

I would like to see a headlight test of this car!😊 But guess it's to bright in the nights for the moment. Edit: Comment above written before watching the video, but still, a proper headlight test would be fun!😂

@faustinpippin9208 Жыл бұрын

I always find it weird that the gov limits this category to 45....just let it drive 50 so it doesnt stop traffic..... the extra 5km/h wouldn't make any difference for the car but it makes a big difference for blocking traffic but I guess i expect to much from the gov, it will probably take them 60 years to think about it

@Spottermarc2011 Жыл бұрын

Looks like a competitor for the Opel Rocks

@artokiiskinen1058 Жыл бұрын

Comparing it to the silence makes more sense. I think the 73 Wh/km is okay compared to the 38 Wh/km for the SilenceS01 you tested. Weight still has impact. Silence is 215 kg with you on board and this thing is probably 475 kg.

@verboseEV Жыл бұрын

10% loss at 1 phase AC seems too low, that could expect the high consumption numbers.

@colla555 Жыл бұрын

THe low beam / high beam pattern switching exactly behaves like an H4 halogen bulb with two filaments.

@fredrik7814 Жыл бұрын

Hello Bjørn, There are several good deals on 2WD vehicles currently. The big question is how well they perform in winter or off-road conditions. In addition to most of them being rear-wheel drive, some cars have software that allows you to engage both wheels when you're stuck. Can you start testing this? It's very interesting for those who can manage with 2WD.

@swecreations Жыл бұрын

Proper nordic/extreme winter tires like the Continental VikingContact 7 is much more important than 2wd/4wd

@kristianmandell5194 Жыл бұрын

Hello Bjørn. Did you run at full power the whole time, after switching off the eco mode at the beginning of the video? 170 kilometers is incredibly good in that case. Although they don't say it, they usually mean that the range is based on eco mode, when it comes to electric mopeds. Thanks

@philherb3843 Жыл бұрын

You need about 2-4 kW to maintain 45 km/h in flat terrain. So the motor is not on full power because of the speed limit. The few times on hills and acceleration would not change too much range.

@impuls60 Жыл бұрын

This car was shockingly expensive when I looked it up. How can a 16year old afford 150-200k?

@MMSaabChannel Жыл бұрын

Can we get a 1000km challenge on this one? 😂 Handles like a boat 😂

@matynaty82 Жыл бұрын

Funniest video ever!!!! Bjorn you have to make 1000 km challenge. I would watch the whole live video if it would be so funny 😅

@rjbiker66 Жыл бұрын

But you aren't hypermiling the ligier when doing 45 km/h. Probably need to try 30 km/h. Is there an unrestricted version with taller gearing.?

@EVSpeed Жыл бұрын

could you send me the website link of that adapter for ac charging?

@obiskeyone Жыл бұрын

1000 k challenge is going to take a week

@verboseEV Жыл бұрын

Leeroy ftw 🏃‍♂️

@ddensa Жыл бұрын

Leroooy Jenkiiins!!!!

@pegefounder Жыл бұрын

Let's make a calculation about hyper miling a Tesla 3 at 50 km/g. 14 m/sec * 1700 kg * 0.01 rolling resistance * 9.81 gravitation = 2,34 kW or 4,68 kWh for 100 km. 14 * 14² / 2 * 1,3 (kg m³ air) * 2.2 m² (front area) * cw=0.22 = 0.86 kW or 1.72 kWh for 100 km both together 6.4 kWh/100 km. This means extreme efficient. For the Ligier. Even when I estimate 1.6 m² front area with cw=0.38, this has at this low speed no big influence. This means inefficient.

@joachimschulte8574 Жыл бұрын

I hope, there will come a 1000k challenge 😀

@sivertliljedal490 6 ай бұрын

You need to try a utv (Canam or Polaris)

@fordwebster8113 Жыл бұрын

How much does this thing cost?

@ELCEV Жыл бұрын

They should just rename it "ShittBoxx"

@juanvga Жыл бұрын

Looks cool. just give me at least 65 km/h

@xboxice2005 Жыл бұрын

There must be a way to unlock more power in this.

@yhfsywfit Жыл бұрын

As a European w teenage children I appreciate this video. Also, I like to move it 😂

@TomLaceyJohnson Жыл бұрын

I know you prefer google maps. But when you use cars without a satnav but have CarPlay or android auto, why don’t you tend to use android auto?

@JDCarnin Жыл бұрын

This thing, with this Range but with added fast charging would be totally sufficient for me. Sadly as far as I know no one implemented it in this class of car. Edit: Just looked up the price, I´ll keep my Deutschlandticket for the next 40 Years...

@Jeruzalemforever 9 ай бұрын

I can say you need to balance the rear speakers with the front, standard they sound like shit (too little use of the back "bass" speakers) but with a little radio tweaking they sound a lot better.

@philherb3843 Жыл бұрын

I drive with various pedelecs, including a speed pedelec 45 km/h. I note my consumptions, so here is my list (without charging losses): pedelec 25 km/h: 3-5 Wh/km pedelec 25 km/h with kids trailer: 8-10 Wh/km s-pedelec 45 km/h: 20 Wh/km sitting upright and 15-17 Wh/km deep low. So the 70 Wh/km for the 45er car seems ok. I don't think you can charge it with 1C with a smaller battery, because the battery is not cooled at all. And a bigger charger is really expensive, you also need a charging station. For going to work and back, even in winter, the battery size is quite good. You can go one hour per direction, so about 40km and have enough reserve for extra tour to the family or shoping after work.

@philherb3843 Жыл бұрын

Another thing about the lower power at the end. Normally, they use 48V batteries. They go down to 35V when empty, but at 15% they are still above 45V. The motor controller normally is limited in Ampere, so maybe 125A. At 48V this is 6kW, but at 40V only 5kW and at 35V only 4,3 kW. You need about 3-4 kW to maintain 45 km/h, so every hill will slow you down when the battery is nearly empty.

@longstoryshortless Жыл бұрын

And what is the price?

@alaasadek2908 Жыл бұрын

Any news about Tesla FSD? Can you test it in Oslo?

@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын

Not available in Europe.

@samusaran7317 Жыл бұрын

Interesting NEV

@geemy9675 7 ай бұрын

15:48 I like to move it move it doing 45km/h in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere

@MrUled Жыл бұрын

In eco it may go further

@eb1888. Жыл бұрын

You could charge faster but would the battery need liquid thermo management. Does it have it?

@Mues_Lee Жыл бұрын

maybee you can pee on the battery :D

@CampGareth Жыл бұрын

Maybe not, a Leaf charges at 6.6kw (I think) and doesn't have active cooling. C rate might be high on a small pack but it won't be high for long and it won't be charging often since it takes so long to drain.

@vorlon81 Жыл бұрын

Isnt this like the Hongguang mini ev?

@kiwijonowilson Жыл бұрын

Wow, I don't think I would want my children driving this here in NZ. 45kph is just too slow, even around town, and I wouldn't want the hazard of the children having to deal with angry motorists! Even 50kph would be a big improvement.

@claessjostrom565 Жыл бұрын

I see Millennium Falcon!

@krisvandermeulen253 Жыл бұрын

It has the aerodynamic properties of a polished brick.

@koosb8162 Жыл бұрын

Ligier used to have an F1 team, right?

@jameslastinger Жыл бұрын

Hammertime! 🤣

@moestrei Жыл бұрын

Love how you care about everything EV. However from my Moped days I know that you need enough power and speed to be able to float with traffic. Everything less is really dangerous.

@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын

Regulations, reglations, regulations...

@KineticEV Жыл бұрын

This is a good short range or city vehicle and like you said, it's a decent vehicle for a teenager who this may be their first vehicle and one they don't need t take on a road trip given it's power and speed. I do like the fact that it has a decent size infotainment screen. The fact that it's Android Auto compatible is great because other than the basic car functions I'm sure the infotainment isn't much to speak of. The car should definitely be kept to around town/local driving. Even the 60km motorways is too much for this one.

@mondeo984 Жыл бұрын

In stupid Denmark you need a special drivers license and must be 17 years before you can drive a 45' vehicle

@ezquimal Жыл бұрын

Have better battery than the Nissan epower

@s.kxx1956 Жыл бұрын

I like to move it move it

@tridruankham2657 Жыл бұрын

❤❤❤

@uwesz7940 Жыл бұрын

1000 km Challenge ?

@AaronStarkLinux Жыл бұрын

I think the belt in the electric motor has some loses.

@johumm455 Жыл бұрын

yep, but a chain would be noisy. And a complete solution with build in motor is not yet available? Hub motors would be cool!

@AaronStarkLinux Жыл бұрын

@@johumm455 No chain, no belt, just connected to the wheels

@aarong9378 Жыл бұрын

Swap the sprockets and see how fast you can get this car going! Put the big sprocket on the motor and the little one on the drivetrain!

@ivorholtskog5506 Жыл бұрын

It looks like it is just a city car. Definitely not for the highway.

@MrVeeBlog Жыл бұрын

Its- sounds like an AM radiol, lol

@Deddily Жыл бұрын

1000 km challenge? 😜

@xboxice2005 Жыл бұрын

45kmh is dangerous should be at lease 70kmh :)

@dt2526 Жыл бұрын

It reminds me of 2008 Chinese androids phone 😂😂.

@tridrean Жыл бұрын

♥♥♥

@slmkbh1 Жыл бұрын

Norwegian Nisse 😂 Here in Denmark we call them Fjeldaber

@slmkbh1 Жыл бұрын

It also reminds me of the time I tried a Kewet 4

@Don1981 9 ай бұрын

Its freaking scary 😂😂 i know i got a opel

@ltkwok Жыл бұрын

10 miles per kWh!

@vesav2442 8 ай бұрын

Very best car.....

@davidperrott5743 Жыл бұрын

Er.... It's Leezheeay, roughly.

@twogsds Жыл бұрын

Is Chademo disappearing from Europe?