My mum picked up her Pink EK. Holden from Muir's motors brand new.

15 years old car for $1450. Sounds a lot.

Our remarkable leaders have made sure that wont happen.

Too bloody right, we’ve totally lost our unique identity!

@@hajorodyk1470 Mate we gave in, stopped fighting for our country, totally surrendered to the corrupt elites..... Time to wake up is now or forever we are enslaved

@pjdsa sorry Australia is fucked, it's a shell of itself. Sold out by traitors.

@@realsocrates5272 must agree with that, spot on mate.

My first car, at age 17, in 1966.

True.. however, neither Ford nor Valiant had the history behind Holden as an entity and family in Australia. As for which was better, it's a matter of opinion and which you had in the family. Personally, I believe Holden was the better car.. those old Red Motors were near indestructible and had bullet proof reliable. They never suffered issues during Australia's hot summers either, as some of the early Fords did(know nothing of the Valiant). I know Holden well, had a HK Holden(1969)with a 186 red in the family for some 25 years(parted with it in 1995).. the motor lived on in a HG premier(1970) for another 15 years after that. The HG was finally retired in 2014 and let go of in 2020. It was still running like a sewing machine when it went.

@@gooseknack they were no more reliable than chrysler's 225. holden, while having its genesis here, was not that after gm took over. the commodore, like the xd falcon, was a car engineered from an existing european model, the opel. the xd came from the grenada.

​@@lifelongbachelor3651the xd may have looked like a MK2 Grenada but it was just a rebodied xc with only the headlights/front indicators the same as the euro model

Yeah not having to polish your own car cook your own food or even clean up after yourself.

No need to apologise. You're lucky to still have those memories, thanks for sharing them 😊

Ramble on brother, we about same age, and a few miles were done in holdens all through the sixties. i heard of humber snipe and others of the fifties but the first i really remember was the "FB" ( secound hand, in about '63, first new (family) car was HK 161 in '68. All good memories

With the right-turn signal on all the way, too!

@@lezlezman1843 Ah, yes-the little finger thing that poked out the side. A revolution in design!

A minor delay

P76 - Also hide 4 of your mates in the boot to sneek into the drive-in.

That colour was called "home on the orange", acrylic lacquer was just replacing nitrocellulose "Duco" about then so DuPont brought out a range of dazzling colours with fancy names to lift the appeal of their product. There was another crazy colour called"take me home to mother". There were about 10 colours in the range. Stavros

The P76. A much maligned car.

I don't think anyone could have been more superficial than Ray. What a shame.

Agree entirely...like most stuff on commercial TV it's dumbed down to the lowest common denominator.

@@mikevale3620 As John Logie Baird said when he invented the TV " I dont know if I have done a good thing or bad". I think he did a good thing, just the corrupting influences of the channel owners have turned it into a worthless commodity.

Yes they were like tanks. My Grandmother drove one lol and scared the shit out of me when she got behind the wheel 😂

Your a GOOSE And so is the person who replied to you about her cranmotha scering him

Lucky bastard, I had a 770 , got 16mpg on one run which I'm proud of.

HEY CHARGER 🤘

Mostly German Opel Senator and Opel Commodore with a local engine which dated back to 1964. The Holden in-line six was a close Chevrolet design that itself dated to the late 50's.

Jason Carpp z

thanks mate.

Yeahh these..days..not the craptiva mate TED ..they even changed the beer...fucking hypster shit generation..tooheys extra dry...KFC killed my uncle....craft beer is for hypsters who cant drink forshit...in2000 pub 8 pints 4 hours ..t bone chips veg drove the motor car home..💋🤣😂🇦🇺🤓🤭never again..likethat...thats GUINESS TOO...FUCK OURSOCIETY THESE DAYS...AUSTRALIA UR FUCKED...VB ISTHE BEST BEER...BRING BACK KB GOLD...goodon ya boss APD 83 falcon...

Because of all the bitching Muslims coming in, you'll never get Kingswood Country re-runs on the TV again ... while they play MASH re-runs every year.

@Aussie Pom Too many unpolished dipsticks in Canberra.

Money on the fridge!

That's interesting to realise how recent it was. A woman and her teenage daughter were the first to drive all around Australia in the 1920s. There were no roads in much of the more remote country. I had a book detailing their adventures in one chapter but I seem to have lost it. By 1930 several people had done it.

"Today's cars aren't cars but rolling computer juke boxes, very very expensive ones." I'll second that, Craig.

LTLUCKYLUKE it would be nice if there were a Australian home grown alternative; however, the startup cost would be outrageous. The government there wouldn't be willing to finance the effort and I can't see any individual or group willing to risk it on a 'new unknown' brand dedicated to what in reality is a small market.

Sadly Australia has become a full socialist country and socialists don't build any thing well if at all.

Roy Sage Australia built 4 cylinder cars before howard signed the free trade agreement with Korea in the late 90's which saw cars like the Hyundai Excel for $13.999. The reason they built large sedan was because that was all the rest of the world was already importing everything else into Australia. The subsidies were part of the Buttons plan in order to lower tariff in the 80's. The car companies should have sacked everyone and left when John Button announced his plan in 1985. It doesn't matter who owns the company nobody works for their injury or loss and neither should they.

Even if they were not designed here many 4 cylinder cars were built here. The free trade agreements were and are treasonous. The excessive rules, regulations taxes and central banking all played a role. Ford threatened to leave as early as 1985. The 1995 incident your referring to is the Ford Taurus car which ford hoped it could to import and replace the falcon with. Holden thought about doing the same when the VL commodore came to an end in 1988 but decided against it because at the time Australians still wanted 6 cylinder and V8 rear wheel drive sedans and no other GM plant was building such a car. The subsudies were a sort of substitute for the tariff reductions. The car companies should be commended for their stupidity for staying as long as they did because only a fool would keep investing when the governments were doing their level best to destroy the industry especially since the majority of Australian manufacturing had already been offshored or gone bust. It wasn't. Most Australian products are not banned and they can go into Asian countries without tariffs BUT there are other rules and costs these governments can impose on Australian products which make buying them very undesirable to the locals. If you want to know what is really behind the demise of Australian Manufacturing google "The Lima Declaration" of 1975. Most modified cars lose money it doesn't matter the make but generally stock used 4 cylinders hold their value very well.

Sandy Websdale finally you guys have cars that are better built... If AU cars are any good to 'Au conditions', why not export them but cater for the export market i.e smaller engine but its maintaining durability

They were exported.

I Agree.

Weren’t Holdens basically German Opels and Vauxhalls with V8 engines propped in them?

@@southwest3671 Once upon a time.. That`s how we rolled

@ letsseeif: FJ NOS? (new old stock)? In 1956 the FE replaced the FJ.

Correction. My father's FJ Holden was bought new in 1952, two tone green bought from Preston Motors Melbourne from Mister Speedy to Mr. Pace. [My little funny-but true.]

@pjdsa I'll have a head on with my valiant into your Poofter car any day.

cause it was a Toyota Camry SV21, rebadged , great cars none the less

GMC? Genetically Modified Crap?

@Rodger Hodgson no surprises here

Known as the P38 in the trade, because it was half a car.

I suspect this actually was an Australian version of a similar advertising song used in the USA, which was about "baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet".

@@hebneh Yep you're right

That would of been an FB Holden Sedan. All those early Holdens right up until 1974 or thereabouts were based on Chevy models.

Graeme Williams : Did you hale from the Wattle Park region?

Memorable Holdens: 48-215 (FX), FJ, FE, FC, FB, EK, EJ, EH, HD, HR, HQ, HK, HT, and HG, with the HK introducing the two door iconic Monaro.............PS: Please note, HQ comes after HG and not after HR, cheers...

@@davidhamilton506 You have one wrong HQ should be HK then after HG comes HQ

@@raymossop4610 Thank you Ray, you're indeed correct. I've just noticed my gaff there. Yes, way back then I was returning to Canberra from Sydney down the Hume, and spied a Vehicle Transporter load of new HQs. I remember disliking the taillight/indicator set up that was installed in the rear bumper bar. Later that week, I called into the Holden Dealer and looked it over, and came away not all that impressed. I'm just four inches shy of 6 foot and in sitting behind the wheel of the HQ, I'm like just looking over the steering wheel. Anyhow, thanks for the feedback. I've now corrected that error. Cheers and stay safe ol' mate...

Tom Quigley chrysler was always the best...

Yep, totally agree

Leyland?

VW beetles were built to 85% Aussie content, gearboxes, engines, castings all bodywork was pressed & assembled here in the 1960s, I worked there in foundry & heat treatment.Factory was in Westall Vic

Yes Chrysler was conveniently overlooked...despite it building the best 6 cylinder engines in Australia, the HEMI 6.

They just go Faster!

On a good day you could hear them rusting or was that Ford?

Ford. Found on rubbish dump

Just get sent to Japan to be converted to Toyotas.

Bradoutandabout, actually history always repeats itself.

@steve gale Maybe, but they were designed in the good ole US of Hay and built by a Yank company, so what does that tell you?

CheesyTV They were made higher 13" i believe to give plenty of clearance on dirt roads ie Outback , not many paved roads back then.

Neither can Jesus!

We do.

Only when we are not driving our Valiants across the gibbers.

Sort of took of didn't it?

Most of them were inferior to the Holden.

Every kid's lament.

Yer it was called the Falcon but it changed every couple of years in design, we designed all our own falcons up until the last one, we also built and designed the territory which was an SUV based around the falcon platform, Ford have been built in Australia since the T model rolled of the production line at the disused wool-store in 1925, we produced all our own iron and as far as I know they were completely Australian made. we made our own cars before Tarrant got involved in building Fords.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarrant_automobile

But not rust proof

@@frankwatt745 Kidding, Frank? I still own a 1965 Valiant AP6 PV v8 over 50 years and no rust.

How many people do you think have stuck their you know whats, in the car exhaust pipes??

Now he's prime minister.

Fukn oath u could...best drive in car...bar chev impala lol🇦🇺🤓😂🤣🤟

Thank God for that!

BIGGLES, Did he go backwards? FE was before EK.

306 CHAMPION Definately 48-215.

*306 CHAMPION* Ah yes, the P76, the only vehicle at the time, where one could lay a 44 gallon (205litre), drum on it's side in the boot (trunk), and close the lid................The drum, as depicted in one of the car's advertising stunts is empty, as there's no way you could manhandle a full one in, short of rolling it out of a Bobcat's bucket, and pity the dead drop to the boot floor and how the rear suspension would hold up. Then of course, to unload, would see the boot lid removed, and grapple hooks hook under the top edge, hmm, no, second thoughts, I reckon I'll have that 44 of Anti-Freeze delivered, lol................ Anti-Freeze, by volume is far heavier that petrol. Actually, that advertisement for the P76 at the time, was just to show it's humongous boot capacity. Thanks for the memories...

The regular Holden was the 48-215, the Ute was the 50-2106 and I'm sure there were other designations for the Business model, Taxi model....

As a teen in the 60s I pranged Dad's EH Holden 😁

Talking of Newcastle, when I was a teenager there was the Newcastle song with the FJ sitting outside the Parthenon milk bar in Hunter Street. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zt-InNGBvrGRep8.html

Well that explains EVERYTHING!

@@ahorsewithnoname643 With Normie and 4 mates all sitting in the front seat.

Ask the mongrel govt.

I remember the LLoyd Hartnett, its most outstanding feature was no reverse gear, no doubt LLoyd planned to rectify this later. GMs actions are reminiscent of todays Big2 supermarkets.

Ray Martin is still alive. You're talking of him as if he were dead.

@@neilforbes416 Ray Martin is alive? I thought he was like Agro, only brought out of his box when needed.

@@ivanolsen8596 LOL

starmanskye. I have seen a couple of 4wd Falcon utes with high ground clearance. I don't know who made them though.

@@bossdog1480 They were converted using Willys parts, cant remember who did the conversion, Holden did a ute too. Neither took off, a shame, the owners loved them.

@@ivanolsen8596 I saw an FC converted to a 4wd about 40 years ago in Bunbury. I don't know how they got it registered over there with the anti modified car Nazis, but it was around for a while. Looked 'diferent'.

@@bossdog1480 I think 40 years ago the Bunbury Council would have handled the licensing of vehicles, before the nazis took over. The councils checked the vehicles themselves and if they thought it safe and roadworthy it got licensed. Now there are guidelines for mods, then it has to scrutenised by a so called engineer, hardly worth the bother anymore. BTW, I saw a 4WD Rolls Royce in QLD a few years ago, it came from Rainbow Beach.

@@ivanolsen8596 The Nazis were already well established back then too. If you had an old Holden and it had to go over the Pits they would take a large crowbar and try to drive it through the floor. If it went through the car was only good for spare parts after that. That's why I was surprised that the 4WD FC was able to pass registration. The checking station is long gone. It used to be on the main street down near where Drooly's Pizza used to be. They used to work strictly to the book and you had to line up early or you wouldn't get seen that day. Many a good old car was denied rego by those p..ks. The GOOD thing with WA regos was that once a car was rego'ed it didn't have to be inspected each year like in NSW. The cops would always look your car over when they pulled you over and if they didn't like what they saw you got a sticker. That meant a trip to the Pits and if the car had ANY faults it would fail. In those days we never had much money so a lot of old cars never made it out alive.

A pick up truck is NOT a Ute

Inept, useless, treasonous politicians is what happened. Too concerned with the welfare of every country but Australia and its people. Labor and Liberal have totally screwed this country.

@Mick At least I'm not alone... WTF - Fluoridation ?

I still remember the old Australia. Lived there for five years, from Europe, but I ended up settling in Canada. I often think of the old days and no matter where you live, the world has changed fast the last 20 years.

No speed limits ,No seatbelts ,No alcohol limits ,0.8-0.5-0.2-0.0 , No car industry!

lol well said. but better not say too much. FFS last time I saw some aussie guy say literally the same thing about the change in times, feminism etc etc he got ripped a new you know what badly by women AND simp males about being a sad such and such (saying it nicely lol) that was just mad and sad and over all didn't know what he was talking about apparently. the PC crap will forever run things now... I am scared to think really.

@Neil Forbes what's so iconic about that

@Neil Forbes of course everyone would know that LOL

@neilforbes416 yes something like that