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Von Gonta Haus

Von Gonta Haus

Жыл бұрын

The mechanics of dog breeding and creating a line of dogs (or even a separate dog breed) is explained. This is meant to be educational in nature.
How dog sports influences selection of animals:
vongontahaus.com/dog-sports-a...
Breeding good dogs is an art and not a science. Yet a breeder needs to breed consistent breed type using the AKC approved standard for each breed. Many people are against any kind of close breeding but that is simply ignorant and the fact that many breeders think this is taboo/incest breeding think of the human taboos against that. But breeds were created in the first place by inbreeding and creating very high quality dogs involves intelligent line breeding. This video explains some of the benefits weighted against the risks of this approach.
We know that know inbreeding has two consequences that matter to a breeder, one positive (uniformity and prepotency) and one negative (loss of vigor and fertility). Therefore, it would be useful to be able to calculate the degree of inbreeding of an animal because it would make these effects more predictable. This was important because these two effects were at odds with each other; breeders could increase predictability and uniformity by inbreeding, but not without also having detrimental effects on an animal’s health and fertility. Breeders couldn’t just keep inbreeding and inbreeding to get better and better dogs; with each incremental improvement in uniformity and homozygosity, there would be a price to pay in health, vitality, and reproductive performance, traits that are collectively referred to as “fitness”. The short-term gain in consistency from inbreeding was paid for by a longer-term penalty in viability. For those in the business of agriculture, which dog breeding is, it was critically important that the balance between the positive and negative be controlled. Producing great dogs today would be counterproductive if the ability to produce new stock in the future was diminished. How do you a balancing act therefore? This video attempts to explain it.
Complexity aside, the coefficient of inbreeding has become one of the most powerful tools a breeder can use, not only to predict the potential danger possible from a particular mating in terms of decreased fitness and increased incidence of genetic disease, but also to anticipate an animal’s possible value in the genetic improvement of the next generation. Used without consideration of both positive and negative effects, inbreeding is invariably destructive. But used carefully as part of a breeding plan that strategically balances its benefits and dangers, inbreeding can be a powerful tool.
Please refer to earlier video on line breeding/inbreeding/outcrossing:
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Intro video:
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Part1:
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Part2:
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Part3:
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Part4:
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Breeding better Canines via Understanding Genetics
Excellent book on dog breeding:
www.amazon.com/Planned-breedi...
reference websites:
www.instituteofcaninebiology....
bloodlines.net/highflyer/coef...
davidcavill.wordpress.com/a-b...
Pure Bred Dog:
www.netpets.com/dogs/reference...
Virtual Genetics Lab:
intro.bio.umb.edu/VGL/index.htm
Punnett Squares: www.athro.com/evo/gen/punexam....
OFA - Orthopedic Foundation for Animals: www.offa.org/diseaseinfo.html
OFA Search - Search the Database for breeding Adult Certifications ( if they arnt listed - I would re-consider your purchase!!) www.offa.org/search.html
Breeding in order to Better a Breed:
www.nrta.com/breedforfoundatio...
ABC's of Dog Breeding:
www.joyslynslhasaapsos.com/abc...
Canine Inheritated Disorders Database:
www.upei.ca/~cidd/intro.htm
Responsible Breeder???:
www.iupui.edu/~ihls400/respons...
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@Brightcreek
@Brightcreek 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for the content. I appreciate your expertise.
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus 16 күн бұрын
My pleasure!
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus Жыл бұрын
please subscribe to our channel
@pseudopetrus
@pseudopetrus 9 ай бұрын
I have breed shepherd malinois cross, the shepherd developed hip problems later in life, the malinois crosses were all good.
@user-uy5df4mm8r
@user-uy5df4mm8r 7 ай бұрын
i love the temperament of the mix if it´s the right dam to the right sire. I have a male strong gsd and i adopted a female dutch mal mix. this female mix was supposed to be spaded , she was.n´t her and my male gsd had a litter of 11, i kept the best male and he´s a great dog. i plan to have his hips and elbows tested that´s how impressed i am with his performance. great content .
@adityashetty9241
@adityashetty9241 5 ай бұрын
hey man loved the explanation would love to see a video on all the health testing one must do as a breeder especially if they are using line breeding / inbreeding thank you 😄
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus 5 ай бұрын
embarkvet has a test kit for 125 canine diseases, including epilepsy and DM. OFA hip and elbow X-rays are required. Some disease, like Degenerative Myelopathy are such that it only appears as a recessive trait, masked by a dominant gene. So if both partners are carriers, the offspring will definitely have this disease. Linebreeding and inbreeding doesn't cause bad genes. They are already there. But it exposes bad genes because a carrier of a recessive trait, that meets up another carrier, because you're increasing the allelic frequency of a certain ancestor's genes, will now allow for two carriers to meet up, which otherwise would not have met up and been masked by a dominant gene. Some diseases, like epilepsy, can lie hidden for 30 generations, and only show up many generations later. This was true for a long time for the German Shepherds bred in the United Kingdom in the 1930's-1950's. So certain countries are known to have certain lines of dogs with certain diseases. So you must choose the very best, healthiest dogs, where you know the ancestors as far back as possible before inbreeding. Some diseases appear to be connected to color genetics. For example, the spots on a Dalmation led to incidence of deafness and kidney disease. So we don't breed genes, just for color for instance. Genes are in clusters and other factors are involved, because you're breeding the total animal, not just a color gene. That's why an Irish Setter was mixed in with the Dalmation to fix the issue, but the issue is now back. In German Shepherds, when color gets faded and washed out, this is undesirable and Captain Stephanitz felt that faded color is a sign of genetic weakness. So when the border opened up, and the DDR dogs were available, breeding the sable, and pure black dogs to the West German dogs re-invogorated the gene pool and the dark sable dogs with the racoon eyes increased overall health and vitality in the breed that was getting bottle necked with the black and red dogs that we only saw. In the French Bulldog, some colors command higher prices from buyers, and people pay a lot of money for these colors. They are asking for serious problems from a breed that is already not a healthy breed in the first place. That's why breeders should never breed for color in order to command a higher market price point. That's not healthy for the breed. In general, if you inbreed, you must immediately out-cross, and then line breed in the next generation to a less related ancestor. If you line breed (as opposed to inbreed),it's safer, you don't need to outcross as often, until you reach a genetic bottleneck. Once you've locked some traits, you need to outcross. It has benefits, without which we wouldn't have the world's most beautiful horses, the cows that produce the most milk, the sheep that produce the most wool, but it has drawbacks. It's a tool to be used intelligently.
@adityashetty9241
@adityashetty9241 5 ай бұрын
lovely explanation @@VonGontaHaus
@elizabethguerrero9547
@elizabethguerrero9547 10 ай бұрын
thank you for taking the time to make this informative videos
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus 10 ай бұрын
My pleasure! So nice of you!
@CaribbeanPhotoGuy
@CaribbeanPhotoGuy Жыл бұрын
Extremely good content loved this series
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus Жыл бұрын
thank you for watching! Please subscribe to our channel.
@terrysibley9636
@terrysibley9636 Жыл бұрын
That was very good. The genetics are truly a wonderful path to follow. I would like to here your input on using the female as the basis for a line. Thank you very much
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus Жыл бұрын
breeding on the female line versus male line has similarities and differences in the approach. I feel one approach is to develop a line from a 3-3 breeding on a female champion, like I use Frenzi, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iph3epN70rfLaGQ.html via her son Bourne vongontahaus.com/bourne-von-wolsfriede and her Grandson Mac vom Wolsfriede kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9t8hqxovdLGp6c.html You would breed a Bourne von Wolsfriede daugther (who is a therefore a Frenzi grand-daugther) to Mac von Wolsfriede (who is grandson of Frenzi. Therefore, you have bred a grandson of Frenzi to a grand-daugther of Frenzi. Furthermore, such a grandson would be a 2-3 line breeding on Jucan von Peroh kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qa9je5iUqpmXgok.html But a 3-3 on Frenzi. So this would become a 3-3 on Frenzi and a 2-3 on Jucan. You have therefore taken a line breeding on a male dog (Jucan) and then did a line breeding on a female (Frenzi). In this fashion, the line breeding on the female line is considered an outcross with respect to the male line. In other words, you are crossing two inbred lines to each other, so they form a "nick" in the breeding program. Each line is not being inbred further with respect to the same common ancestor. Instead, each line has a female common ancestor on the female side and a male common ancestor on the male side and you are then breeding these to each other. Tha's how you would do a female line approach, as a cross to an line-bred male line
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus Жыл бұрын
You would cross two lines. Your female line will a be a 3-3 breeding on a female champion. (a first cousin mating). Your male line with be a 2-3 breeding or a 3-3 breeding on a male champion. You then mate a male dog of the 2-3 male line to the 3-3 female from the female line. This would create a line breeding of two famous ancestors having the greatest influence in the F2 generation of breeding. Please see detailed answer below.
@terrysibley9636
@terrysibley9636 Жыл бұрын
@@VonGontaHaus thank you very much
@terrysibley9636
@terrysibley9636 Жыл бұрын
@@VonGontaHaus thank you so much. The genetics are really amazing. Thank you
@CharlieTheCaneCorso
@CharlieTheCaneCorso 9 күн бұрын
On the nwa cane corso podcast Joe had on a man named Mr morales a breeder of presa canario Mr morales spoke about the DDR breeding program in Germany at that time, Do u know anything more in depth about the DDR breeding methodology Would be interesting to hear about that
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus 8 күн бұрын
Wertmessziffer • DDR Rating System This is the best rating system ever put together in my opinion. With these numbers we can determine much about the dog without video or picture. Young dogs between one and two were evaluated using the ZTP or Zucht Tauchlichkeits Pruefung, like a Prelim test. Dogs over two were evaluated at the Koerung or approval process for entering the breeding program. Much like a license it had an expiration date, two years. It also could be fixed (final permanent) by the administrators after 3 tests and examinations by age five. Occasionally an exceptional dog was given the more permanent Kor after just two presentations to the committee. The system used number as follows: first number was body type. Second number was power/structure/constitution. Third number was body issues, such as low-station, hock issues or anything else. Fourth number was temperament. The fifth number was degree of sharpness (not to be confused with fear, but the thresholds before a dog exhibits aggression. So a dog with good nerves was not a sharp dog). The next number was the degree of courage and hardness: ability to take pressure.
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus 8 күн бұрын
Here's video on my channel where I discuss it to some degree: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fKmpZr1n3ZjMfn0.htmlsi=h1UODkz_8JeIyJ3F
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus 5 күн бұрын
good reference: ddrgermanshepherd.com/understanding-the-ddr-rating-system/
@dwilliams9801
@dwilliams9801 Жыл бұрын
Great content ! I’ll work on creating a King Rott from the black & Tan Tibetan Mastiff and Rottweiler. While you work on creating the Super Shepherd from the Malinois and German Shepherd 😂😂😂 . The German Shepherd didn’t always have a slant due to the short hind legs and roach back . Any thoughts on what contributed to this ?
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus Жыл бұрын
The overly slanted back in the German Shepherd started with Canto Weinerau. The Martin brothers in the 1970's and 1980's were extremely responsible for the separation of the breed into the showline type and working type. The penultimate instance of betrayal of this breed were the Martin brothers, Walter of the von der Wienerau kennel and Herman whose kennel was vom Arminius. Walter was the guiding light, the architect of the new German Shepherd, and Herman was SV president from 1984 until 1994, only two years before the passing of both brothers within weeks in the fall of 1996. Corruption was endemic at the top, for when Walter’s dogs became Sieger it was Herman in his role of SV president who was making the selections and handing out the trophies, when he was not actually selecting his own dogs, as in these Sieger selections. So one brother acted as the breeder while the other brother handed out the trophies. Then everybody wanted to breed their bitches to the winners of the trophies. The dogs most responsible for the separation are named below: 1986 & 1987 Quando von Arminius 1992 Zamb von der Wienerau 1996 Visum von Arminius So they controlled who got the trophies and those who bred to their stud dogs got the trophies! Anyhow, the separation of the breed can be seen in the above named dogs. If you wish to learn more, you can visit our website at vongontahaus.com/articles/
@VonGontaHaus
@VonGontaHaus Жыл бұрын
The AKC will not accept a new breed tied to only 2 existing breeds. It will consider it a mix. You need at least 3 breeds to create a new breed. You also have to find homes for all the puppies you will produce that are mixes until you finally create your breed. You need to show it breeds true for 5, generations before they admit your new breed. I suggest you follow my half siblings drawing I made in the video, but make the third female a French Bouvier. It will be similar size to the Rottweiler, but you will add the third breed as you need to do to be able to eventually register your new breed with AKC. So Female A should be the Mastiff, so should Female B, and the third Female should be a French Bouvier. The sire should be the Rottweiler. You want the female to be bigger than the male, and from the larger breed, to carry puppies from the smaller breed, not the other way around
@dwilliams9801
@dwilliams9801 Жыл бұрын
@@VonGontaHaus wow, thanks for the information
@dwilliams9801
@dwilliams9801 Жыл бұрын
@@VonGontaHaus thanks again . Right now it’s just an aspiration for me though
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