Linus uses products with issues because he believes in them. I use things with issues because I'm broke and it makes decent things seem better. We are not the same

I went for a Fold3 due to the large screen size helping with my visual impairment. While you can increase the font size on a regular Android phone, a lot of apps break as they just aren't designed with that in mind. The larger screen helps prevent app layouts breaking. I did need to get the screen protector replaced recently, just outside of the 1 year Samsung guarantees them for, but they replaced it while I waited free of charge.

The main gaming feature that phones like this stand out for is literally so you can emulate a DS like for like. Its the same form factor and i can imagine how cool it must be to get such a immersive ds experience on a modern phone

I was due for an upgrade and decided to give a fold phone a try. I thought I wouldn't open it often but it would be nice for certain things. I am finding so many reasons to open it. I actually enjoy the smaller size when it's closed, I wear and XL glove and found most phones difficult to hold and use for one hand operation and this fold phone is so much more comfortable. I also really like the thicker size when closed and it actually fits better in a pocket.

The price is the only thing keeping me from buying a Fold. I really want one too because I'm one of those people whose hands are too big for normal-sized phones and typing on them is a constant exercise in frustration.

Foldable phones have come so far but they have so far to go, excited to see and hoping newer companies like nothing jump in on this

All these points make sense, and I would buy a folding phone if I didn't already have a flipping one. For my use case in particular, the super compact form factor of a flip far outweigh the advantages a fold brings simply because I work in construction. Yes, I am frequently in dusty environments and working outside in hot weather, which doesn't sound good for a flip phone, but the size of it means that I can fit it into those little chest pockets on safety vests/jackets and keep it up and out of my gross, sweaty pant pockets. Plus, if I do get a phone call during the day, it's always quicker and easier for me to grab my phone out of a chest pocket than digging into the pockets on my work pants. The other big selling point for flip phones for me is that, in contrast to one of the points in this video for folding phones, I have quite small hands. My hand size means that even candy bar phones, like my last Pixel 3 XL, were literally always a 2 handed operation. The extra narrow profile and extra small size of my new Z Flip 5 means I can use it one handed, and my entire hand can wrap around my phone like a child holding onto their favourite toy if I don't want to drop my phone accidentally. Yeah, these 2 reasons I mentioned are honestly pretty minor in the big picture, but they have managed to be such important and critical factors of how I use my phone that I wouldn't trade my Flip 5 for any folding phone ever.

So glad you made that shout out about the torch thing, i do that on a regular basis too on my fold 4 and dont think ive heard anyone mention before, honestly such a life saver at times. The 4/3 content too that slaps on these types of screens both old shows and emulating ps2 games

Long Time Fold user here. Little known disadvantage to using your main camera for selfies: the much shallower focus plane means that in selfies with friends, usually one of them is out of focus. Not complaining, but that actually pushes me to use the normal selfie camera when im around people.

I find it funny how we went from flip phones back to flip phones. We’ve come full circle.

With the Fold 5, Samsung made a Foldable that doesn't have any huge compromises in terms of build quiality and should be the new benchmark (no doubt there are some better Chinese foldables but availability is an issue) from now on. Other than the plastic screen (which I never made a scratch for almost 3 years I used a Fold 2 before), it looks like a normal phone, feels good in the hand, no gaps, wedge shape, creaks, or cheap materials. We'll have wait and see if there are issues with the screen like with the previous version ( I personally never had that), but after one and a half it's still perfect. Now that big screen phones are gone, this is the only real option to have a proper size screen available. Plus when Folded half, it's a tiny phone for one handed use. The price is an issue, but at least the Flip style phones are getting reasonable (and buying a second hand Fold is always an an option).

Im currently using a surface duo 2 and I love it for all the same reasons. I just can't switch back to a candybar anymore, but with the issues with the flexible screens I don't really want to switch to those as well... Lovely spot to be in

4:53 the manga is oshi no ko, a recommended read indeed

Foldable phones are a rather lovely idea when phone size is considered. I'd never want a huge phone, but having a bigger screen is quite useful, and foldable phones potentially could be smaller and still have some screen area left. Additionally, they can be folded, isn't that silly?

I’m really debating on buying the next Flip to come out. I’ve currently got an iPhone 13, but I’m beginning to become bored with this locked ecosystem. They don’t really offer different sizes, and I like smaller phones which is why I think the flip is perfect. Full phone and I can fold it in half. The Fold isn’t bad either, it’s just not what I need rn.

I have the Fold4 waited until the price dropped a bit. Been rocking it for a year now. I got tired of my big slab of an iPhone Pro Max. I really like the size and the function of it. Small when you need it and big when you need it. I don't think I can go back to a non foldable phone. Wish there were a lot more options to choose from.

After an entire life of getting the oldest supported phones and whatever the carrier was offering for a good deal to continue my already going contract, I decided to splurge and go for the Fold4 about a year ago. I'm honestly never going back. Having a screen I can just take with me that doesn't feel cramped for watching things is incredible, not to mention that it's like the perfect size for reading ebooks or comics, things that feel better with the wider format.

Having a pixel 7 pro, i would love the pixel fold. But when its £1800 vs the £650 i spent on this. I could buy my phone a 7a for my wife and still gave nearly half the price left over (which i did) Guess i could also buy a good tablet too and still have money left over. That price is just unjustifiable for the same specs or worse that the 7pro (excepting the screens)

I just upgraded to my first foldable and it feels so liberating haha. I'd always get a headache trying to reply to friends and family, or trying to split screen some apps for notetaking, but now writing out messages and replying feels so much better and so much easier on the eyes. I've gone from the person who only replies once a week or two, to someone who can comfortably hold a continuous texting conversation in one sitting

My wife and I both had fold 3's just about the same age as Linus's, until about a week ago. Thought by version 3 should be pretty "worked out" and LTT had reviewed them. I'm a coder so I don't go out and get dirty, etc., so keep that in mind. My inner screen, out of the blue, just crackled and broke down the fold, nothing in there .. just crrraaccckkk. I do not unfold all the time just when I need more visible space. It worked, but with a big black bar down the middle. Needless to say it was not paid off and I was not happy. My wife and I agreed, with a case these are kinda heavy and a bit bulky. The outside screen where you spend most your time is rather narrow. Apps don't seem to consistently support the narrow outer or wider inner screens well. I loved the larger screen for the size, my vision isn't great so its nice to have a bit more space for bigger stuff. It was great on planes for movies and such. In the end we paid off both of them early, traded into Samsung for the cracked and uncracked trade in's and both got S23 Ultra's. I'm thinking the screens are really a risk point still. Something to consider. The weight/size is noticeable. And really did not use the inner screen to justify the risk. I don't code on it and not a content provider like LTT so probably not as useful to me as for him. Its way too much money for the risk. I still have my old S1 candy bar on a charger still running downstairs. Go figure.

8:57 had the same issue with my first Flip 3. The screen protector also serves as a barrier to not let those plasticizers escape from the top most layer of the screen. Once those plasticizer are gone the plastic screen can no longer absorp the folding procedures that well causing the top layer to crack open. I now use Whitstone premium film on my Flip 3 and this one holds up strong since almost a year now. Most likely gonna use this also on my Flip 5 once it's screen protector starts to bubble up.

I really wanted to buy a fold until I saw the price and was like "yeah not happening any time soon", will definitely buy if costs go down a bit

Got my Pixel fold about a month ago now. Agree with every single point here, though I do want to say if you get one you will worry about it. I was the dude rocking a naked phone my entire life, never actually worrying about if I'll break it because I know how to hold onto a phone, but I can't help but worry about the folding screen breaking from anything other than being incredibly gentle with the entire device. Probably don't have to but it's $1800 and I want this thing to last at least 18 months

I started with a Z Fold 3 and just upgraded to a Z Flip 5. I love it and as long as they keep improving foldables, I will stick with them.

I love the idea of using a big screen foldable phone but I don't even buy phones at flagship prices so the price is a big no no for me, and I would consider spending close to 999 for one of these if they could last 5 years without issue, but as Linus pointed out, the foldable screens seem to be too much of a hit or miss, you always see a new post from someone who has a fold telling their screen died or has bubbles, etc. In other words, it is a cool luxury/rich-enthusiast device, it's an expensive phone that only makes sense for someone that if it dies in less than a year or 2, you won't be too mad about having to buy a new one (or just can't afford to replace). So, for the time being I'll just wait and hope that in a few years they start to last more and get cheaper, we'll see.

When I was a kid I always played on my nintendo 2DS and 3DS, that showed me just how useful a folding device can be. I'm hoping to see foldable phones become more affordable!

I've been using Galaxy Fold 2 (replaced by Fold 3 after a flood at a camping 2 years ago) and I just don't know if I'll ever be able to go back. The extra screen estate is just so good to always have with you for showing pictures of your cats, or reading a book on the Kindle app, or browsing or KZfaq... I do miss the camera of the Galaxy S20 Ultra, but that's a small-ish price to pay (unlike the phone itself).

I find it funny that he submerged his phone into his pool 3 weeks after... rip!! Love you Linus

I've been daily driving a "foldable" for the last 3 years. The reason I put that in quotations is because until just a few months ago I was using the lgv60 which is NOT a folding phone but does come with the amazing "dual screen case" unfortunately over the last year i've been experiencing more and more software issues and i couldn't just get a new model lg because lg stopped so i upgraded to the fold 4 and i couldn't be happier. There's obviously a few things that aren't perfect about it but it's a strict upgrade from the v60+dual screen since I no longer have a HUGE black line down the center of my "wide view" apps amongst other things.

I hope they continue to develop these kinds of phones. I hope one day the can make a design that doesn't break so fast

I use dex a ton on my fold 2, amazes me that I can replace a phone and a tablet as well as being able to have a full desktop experience with my phone, desktop web browsing with mobile apps on a monitor, but obviously not much gaming (other than emulation) or any non browser productivity

The problem I have with foldables and the primary reason it cant replace my tablet is the aspect ratio, most of what I use my tablet for is video playback which is either 16:9, 18:9 or 21:9 and all of these end up barley being much bigger on a fold due to the big black bars on the top and bottom than a regular phone. I'd be interested in a triple foldable device like what was shown at CES 2022 but the current square foldables don't do anything for me.

I've been needing a video like this. I've wanted a folding phone since the fold 3 but I've always stopped myself from pulling the trigger because of the cameras. And after going to a store to check on the camera for the 5 I was right. To me, because I take A LOT of pictures and videos I'd rather stay with the quality of the s22 ultra. But I can't wait to see future devices with better cameras for me to switch

Would love a foldable phone. Having a bigger screen on-the-go like that is like a dream, but the price and fragility of the device is a major concern for me. Outer screen is also still too narrow for my taste, and it needs to be wider.

You can get case stands if you actually need an on the go stand. The benefit of a larger screen is massively overstated; the vast majority of things a larger screen benefits, like remote desktop, remain a nightmare with onscreen keyboards. You're far better off, if you need a big screen regularly, carrying a thin portable monitor, keyboard and mouse in a backpack. It's a better experience which is dramatically cheaper, and wearing a small backpack around is convenient for many other reasons. Of course, you can also just go for a laptop in that case too-you can get a reasonable _gaming_ laptop in the price range of most folding phones, lmao. Split screen is and has been available on other phones for a very long time, but again, it turns out split screen isn't actually that useful for things phones are used for. I do use split screen on my candy bar phone to watch videos while I do other things, and it works OK for that, but basically any other use can be solved with widgets: why not have your conversation or contact list full screen, and just a little floating widget for your active conversation? Folding phones might be attractive for people with very high budgets who don't care about the price. If you don't have to worry about spending an insane amount on a phone you will almost certainly need to replace in a year or two, a folding phone is marginally better than a normal phone at some things, sure. But it's absolutely not worth the money for the vast majority of people and even then, a backpack setup kicks a folding phones ass at literally every minor advantage it has over a 'candybar' phone. It's a status symbol. That's it. Which is fine if that's what you want, but pretending it's a practical option is ridiculous.

Obviously, they need to make a foldable that has more longevity for the folding screen. Perhaps easy snap-on-screen replacements is the thought I'd had!

I would really love to see a video like this on the flip phones like the Z Flip 5. I think for very specific people, it can be a really awesome experience 💕

The conversation starter thing is very true. It feels like my Fold 4 gets comments almost every time I pull it out to pay for something. I'm not sure I particularly want the attention, but in today's world I'm kind of on board for anything that helps break the ice even a little bit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

For anyone wondering, the manga shown in 4:53 is Oshi No Ko ‘s first chapter. Banger series and awesome anime btw.

The "its a stand" one is very nice We had someone with a foldable in my last holidays (group tour) and it was very nice for group pictures

I considered a foldable and got one. 7 months later when the middle screen delaminated and Samsung refused to honor the warranty and I ended up stuck with a $2200cdn front screen I left fold. S23 is now the daily driver.

I got my LG G8x ThinQ with the dual screen case back in 2019 and still use it today. I *much* prefer it to a foldable due to it having none of the negatives you mentioned, except thickness. It's basically like running a desktop with two monitors instead of one ultrawide. Running separate apps always works and, if you crack the 2nd screen, replacing it is easy and less than $200. It's age is showing, though, with the speed and camera not keeping up to modern standards.

Fold 5 User Here: let's not forget how well built these phones are. I dropped my fold 3 folded without a case multiple times onto tile and scuffed it, but there was no damage to the glass. The only problem I had with mine, as you mentioned, was the micro cracks in the crease of the folding screen, and I used that 20% of the time. Luckily, Samsung let me trade it in for $800, even with the screen cracked. Let's hope the newer generation folding screens hold up to daily use without cracking after a year of use.

I got my gen 3 fold a day before release. I've been loving it. No issues at all, other than when I charge with a cord and want to text text, it'll get wonky and type random stuff at times. No biggie. Other than the screen protector peeling again, it's perfect

Just as you love the bigger screen, I actually fell in love with the smaller screen of the Flip 5, it's so easy to look at google maps while walking, sending a message, looking at pictures, making a selfie with the dedicated camera, flipping trough the specially made widgets. I really hope developers and Samsung itself come with much more creative ways to use the smaller screen! And I also hope Phone manufactures find a sweet spot for flip and foldable phones that has the perfect image ratio.

I just got the Z Flip 5 yesterday and wow I am really impressed.. The folding screen is so good and that 3 and a half inch flex window screen is a game changer

I'm driving LG G8X Dual screen for 4 or 5 years, since its release. It has all the benefits of dual screen without any downsides of it: You can pop off the phone from the DS frame and have normal sized device when the need arises. I love it. Yes, it has giant divide at the center, but without the second screen and productivity it gives I feel limited.

0:48 I love that sponsor transition, I never expected that kind lol

I came for the tech, stayed for the old-timey sponsor segues.

I had the Z fold 4 for a few months right after it came out. I found that I used the outer screen more often than the inner one. The big screen was nice, but because of its odd shape, I actualy have more screen for media like movies or youtube videos on my galaxy s23 ultra. I found that the foldable screen was more of a novelty than functional. A few months after I got it I sold it and got a galaxy s23 ultra. I've been much happier with it.

That LTT backpack you guys sell would fit a tablet pretty well. Speaking of which, I wish more people would use backpacks. I use one when biking to work or around town. Fits my lunch, the stuff I need for work, and devices I want for entertainment. Never leave the house without it. Can't fit a Steam Deck in your pocket lol.

Wow, the many things that a foldable phone can do is super cool. I never owned one myself, but I am blown away by how much potential it has for something so innovative as this. I'm excited to see more of what these foldable phones can do in the future, I bet it can do so much more.

I've literally done what Plouffe is doing in the intro before. Went somewhere where I didn't have a bag for some reason and needed to go through a security checkpoint and stuck a tablet into my JNCO's. Security was surprised and impressed I was able to stick it and all my normal pocket stuff like keys and wallet in there.

I've never liked using pop sockets before getting the zfold 5, but it helps so much with the extra weight and size

I replaced the inner screen twice on my fold 3 (lasted about 8 months each). Not a deal breaker for me since it was under warranty both times. Hoping for better reliability on the fold 5.

Verizon replaced my Fold 3 for free due to the screen protector peeling up, and I hadn't even bought it from them, just had the whole account protection plan. I got the free replacement from them, then traded it in for $600 off a S23 Ultra and omg the S23 Ultra is so much better. Having real cameras and a normal aspect ratio is awesome! Foldables, the outer screen is useless due to it's super narrow width, and inner screen is mostly wasted space when watching any movies, which is the only reason to have a bigger screen.

How's the daily dive, uh.... I mean drive goin' for ya?

You didn't cover deterioration of the foldable display where it pivots, is that perfect now?

I just took the warranty replacement protector off my z fold 3 and have been raw dogging it for the week. Do you think the crack on yours might have been because there wasn't a screen protector? I've been assuming that using 3rd party protectors was a risky proposition since the difference in thickness/bend might cause screen damage.

Linus: You can't fit a tablet in your pocket Women: Wait you guys get pockets?

Ive been on the Fold 3 since it came out and I absolutely love it. For me, the biggest downside was the screen protector for the tablet. Just like how Linus described it bubbling up, mine did as well. Took it off (including the one on my front screen as well) and havent had any issues. Plus, the screen protector isn't that great anyways that is pre-installed. If we could have a flexible gorilla glass (i know wishful thinking) would be better than the flimsy piece of plastic they used as the screen protector. Plus, after taking it off, the images are much more clearer than they were before.

I want a fold for basically all the reasons you mentioned and also gaming on my GamerSir. its been great with my pixel 6 pro but my friend has a fold and having that massive screen with a controller clamp is amazing.

Looks like an amazing device to switch to once the technology settles for some more years and gets better. And also something I'd love to get once it starts getting cheaper than the price of my phone and tablet combined.

I'd feel too much anxiety going from a glass screen to a plastic one I could scratch with my nails. A screen I might damage when applying a plastic protector on. Does this anxiety go away when you've owned a foldable for a while? Do you just lower your standards, and accept it will be full of scratches?

1 reasons linus doesnt daily drive a foldable: pool

I love my fold3 dearly and it was well worth it, but I did have screen protector peel and now also micro cracks by the fold - appeared exactly a year after getting it. Its not an issue but it is unnerving. Hopefully fixed by when I upgrade. I really like the thinner Honor and Xiaomi folds

I own a S23 Ultra. I looked at the folding phones but, not sold on them yet. I agree a larger screen on the road would be nice without bringing an extra flat panel with me. The problems at the end if the video, screens cracking, screen protector issues, they were really bad on the first and second gen phones but, getting less of an issue now but, they still have the problem. They are very expensive and can be prone to problems STILL. Neat tech but, I think in 5 more years, I might get one when you never hear about cracked screens besides when someone drops a phone, I might grab one. The biggest thing with my phone, I turn it on and works as it should. Too critical to take a chance where I might have a problem.

I always loved the idea of the LG Wing, similar to a foldable, but no easy scratches. Of course there will be less screen real estate and other problems.

All I want is a phone that is a phone, that can still be updated... Yet all phones become bigger, more expensive or can no longer be updated.

Can you do a remote desktop access video? Like comparing Moonlight (mostly gaming), Google Remote Desktop, Wake-on-Lan, windows remote desktop, etc.

As someone who daily-drives a iPhone 13 Mini and loves small phones I even agree with Linus here, foldables are great in theory if they weren't so expensive and once the kinks get fully worked out but I wish we would get foldables that are

If like me you hate having even a normal candy bar in your pocket but want a nice big phone screen, the flip style phones are great for many of the same reasons. That said, one thing he didn't touch on too much is the fragility of the screen itself. It's basically plastic so it's not very scratch resistant and can be punctured with enough pressure. JerryRigEverything has great videos about their durability

As someone who owns a Z Fold 3 and is extremely annoyed at the fact I'll be spending double on phones from now on because of how much I love foldables. I hear ya. Want that Pixel Fold so bad lol

with winter approaching you should do a video on using a gaming pc as a heater and debunk if a 600w heater is the same as a 600w pc

I have had the zfold 4 for about a year and a half, removed the factory screen protector and the only thing ive noticed under sunlight is little divets that make no difference to the image quality, reading is amazing on the device

4:53 I never knew that I could see Oshi No Ko in Linus Tech Tips, what a world we live in

Not anymore...

This is why I miss my LG phone with the dual-screen case. It came in so handy. Like you said, it's nice for people that have big hands, which I have. Using the second screen for a keyboard was very handy.

I have all the camera features on my ZenFone 6 with a flip since 2019. Plus, I don't have any weird dot on the screen or that weird feel on the middle of the big screen. Plus again, huge battery. Plus, headphone jack.

Enjoyed my fold 3, but switched back to an s22 ultra because working at a major cellular corporation, I see every day how they have a LONG way to go as far as longevity.

I was showing friends a picture on my Pixel Fold while on a shuttle last week and it caught everyone's attention. At least 5 people asked what phone it was and an old lady beside me said she felt like she was in a commercial 😂

I have to stress the durability part here a bit more. Up until the new folding-phones, phones only got more robust and durable by eliminating mechanical/wear-parts. No more pull-out antennas, no more mechanical number-/letter-keys, no more slider-phones, no more ports that can wear out (wireless charging and wireless audio). So a "bar" style smartphone right now is basically an inert block, that will stay intact forever unless you break it by mishandling/dropping it. A folding phone on the other hand re-introduces a mechanical wear-part that will fail sooner or later just from normal (!) use. Pair that with the fact, that a defective folding mechanism or broken screen cannot be fixed for a reasonable price, and you have created the most expensive and highest tech consumable ever. This will also have a strong impact on the used-marked. Why I would have no issue using a regular 2nd hand smartphone, as long as it was well taken care of, I would be very hesitant to buying a folding-phone that already has got some dirt in the folding mechanism or some delamination in the center of the screen. So a folding phone is the best compromise yet for having a tablet and a smartphone in the same device, but it doesn't come for free. And I'm not talking about the price upfront, you are paying for this convenience by reliability and longevity. If you're the kind of person to happily spend 1500+ $ to have a cool tool for 1-2 years and then consider it "written-off", then this is the pinnacle of this way of life. But if you value longevity and would like to have a device usable for 5-10 years, this is simply not going to happen with a folding phone. I honestly don't get why so many people allegedly care about sustainability and on the other hand innovations like these get so much hype.

Screen protector on my Fold 3 failed and I've replaced it with ultra thin glass protector from Whitestone, it is amazing and feels like glass surface, unfortunately they cancelled that product line for some reason

Really good video, but you missed some important points. Not all foldables are about expension. Some are simply about reducing the pocket size. I just upgraded from a Z Flip 3 5G to a Flip 5. I love the fact, that I have a full candy bar in my hand and it still takes away so few space in my pocket. Also, I never had any problems with the screen. The screen protector needed replacing every few month. But I went to the next Samsung store and it was done in 15 minutes for 20 €. A glas screen protector on a candy bar is not cheaper. To be fair, the battery is smaller and I payed 1000 € for a 500 € phone, just for the fact that it folds. Still, as I mentioned, I just upgraded. And you also forgot to mention, that the flip is much cheaper than the fold...

A few weeks ago, I saw a promotion that Samsung was doing with trade ins. It was pretty generous, they offered far more for my old phone with a dying battery than I ever would have gotten anywhere else, so I finally bit the bullet and got a new phone after seven years. I went with the Z Fold 5 and while I haven't had it very long, I agree with pretty much everything in this video. The extra screen real estate is just so nice. Once you get used to it, you really can't go back, at least for certain tasks. Others, are just fine on the front screen. Though, at least on the Samsung, the front screen really is cramped. The height is fine, but it really needs to be about a half inch wider. I also, can't argue that the thickness and the weight is an issue. It really does feel like you're carrying around two phones in your pocket. The worst part though, I'd like it to be even thicker, just so they can get the cameras absorbed into the body of the phone, that camera bump is massive. Biggest issue that I have with it, is actually opening the thing. The hinge has fair amount of force behind it, so you really can't open the thing accidentally. That's good. The bad is that the sides are just so smooth, it can be hard to get a decent grip on the thing to pull it open. I'd like to see some ridges along the side to really be able to grab on to it to open. You can buy cases that do this, but due to the nature of the phone, you have to basically glue them on, and I really don't want to do that. I know it sounds like I'm complaining, but honestly, if you watched the video, you already know all of the good things about the phone, so no real reason to repeat them. If you're thinking about moving to a foldable, and have the money, or can find a good trade in deal, they are honestly fantastic devices.

I don't know how the galaxy fold 3 was, but I have a fold 4, in fact a USED fold 4, and its construction quality is something else, because of being used it had some minor scratches, but that was it, it had no screen protector in any of the screens, no case, and yet only had some minor scratches and dents on the outside body, that's amazing, and, while I face daily some of the software quirks, the pros are so much bigger, even the battery, that while it is far from amazing, it's super doable for a normal day. To me right now, the only big downside is the cameras, they are good, don't think that the folds can't take good pictures, they can, but if you compare the fold 4 to somehing like even a S23+ or worse, the S23 Ultra, yeah, it falls behind real fast, but that's still the only issue I have with it

After this video was a motorbike video sponsored bei quad lock and that got me thanking about the durability and how you use it with your motorbike.

I just want a foldable with no outside screen, like the surface duo.

Pixel fold. Best phone I've had. And I've had alot. Love it

Hadn't considered that back camera selfie aspect. I guess the same also applies to flip phones too.

Strange indeed you didn't update this content to include the Honor fold (that you're talking about somewhere else) which addresses (and solves) two of the drawbacks you mentioned at the end: price and weight+thickness..

Basically 80% of all pros you mention here also go for a tablet that might cost 2-3 times less than a fold. I go around with a backpack anyway and my fingers are huge enough for thumbtyping on a 10-inch tablet, so yeah. Tablet might just be a better option in many cases, especially since it doesn't have the notoriously unreliable folding mechanism.

Having not bought my own, but spoken to people who have, I mostly share Linus' view on foldables, the dealbreaker for me is the screen being so easy to damage, but once that gets fixed I expect I will become a foldable owner myself

How do you put a case or glass screen protector on one of these? One drop and it's done for.

Most of these points where you were saying "more screen is more betterer", I would just go to my PC or laptop cuz its usually close enough. but I am very intrigued by the smaller flips.

I'm watching this on a zfold 5 lol

I pretty much agree with everything you said here. I have had a fold three for just on 2 years now and my experience seems to be close to yours. The folding screencover started to lift so I removed it. and now the screen itself is getting very small find cracks in the center. I have not yet drowned it :P When it fails I will get another because even with the downsides the screen size is just such a big deal for me.

nowadays there arent many downsides to folding phones but the main ones that still do exist are pricing - it makes sense cause more phone = more money but im still in highschool. though i dont go through phones every year so when i get a new one in the far future im definately getting a fold(if the other problems are fixed or done in a better way), the crease - it might just be one of those things thats amplified on camera but its very noticable, and finally the inside screen being scratchable by a finger nail isnt very much to my taste.

4:13 now with quad black bars where it has been uploaded in 16:9 with black bars built in

I am a working man and I sweat a lot at the gym. This phone would be fair for many occupations and hobbies, but the folding screen and hinge designs are still years away for someone who likes and does grimy and gritty work. From a friend who has a gfold gen 2, his lasted a month with our sort of lifestyle. I cannot live happily without doing caveman things and this phone isn't compatible with that lifestyle. Maybe one day.