Steam Deck Competitors are ALREADY Here

Steam Deck Competitors are ALREADY Here - GPD Win Max

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We tried both AMD and Intel versions of the GPD Win Max, a "handheld" portable computer for gaming on the go. Can it beat the Aya Neo, and can it rival what we've seen from the Steam Deck so far?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:22 Specs
3:25 Thumbsticks
6:30 Doom Eternal
7:40 Thermals
8:47 Dirt 5
10:10 F1 2021
11:40 Little Big Planet
12:25 Tekken 6
13:25 Benchmarks
14:35 GPU Dock
16:40 Handheld Experience
17:30 Conclusion
18:37 Outro

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@zombl337og 2 жыл бұрын

this is exactly what Valve wants. A bunch of protable PCs that can do anything like a normal PC......including running Steam and/or SteamOS

@benneboii8117 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Showing people that running AAA games on portable devices is possible will only be a benefit for them, regardless of system used.

@zinger565 2 жыл бұрын

Bingo.

@applehazeva2739 2 жыл бұрын

Steam Deck is basically PC 2

@vivianfoxtail5425 2 жыл бұрын

no matter who you go for steam wins

@castiel5076 2 жыл бұрын

@@applehazeva2739 More like PC Lite.

@jackm8083 2 жыл бұрын

Those look like a little laptop that the stereotypical bad guy uses to "hack" into stuff

@Ebsy1 2 жыл бұрын

"It's a Unix system! I know this!"

@LightningSquad 2 жыл бұрын

I uploaded my Face Reveal...

@DigitalJedi 2 жыл бұрын

ikr. I kinda like it though. It's cute in a weird cyberpunk way.

@stacksmasherninja7266 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ebsy1 then the story reveals that it's a GNU system

@azyrael96 2 жыл бұрын

Using the sticks as well.

@nexaentertainment2764 2 жыл бұрын

"Steam deck competitor" costs over 2x as much, performs worse (at least from what we've seen so far). Yup. I get it, valve is almost certainly selling at a loss, but still. It's not even close, unless you /need/ the keyboard.

@bryanmiller476 2 жыл бұрын

Well the these come with twice the storage as the maxed out steam deck and the steam deck isn’t gonna be sold anywhere besides valve themselves, probably not even on Amazon

@dramaticmudderer5208 2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanmiller476 I don't think it matters that much because most of the time it's going to be shipping from china, no offense

@moltenhydrogen2218 2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanmiller476 throw a 1tb kioxia bg4 into the deck if you're handy enough and add a microsd card (or have a bunch) for additional games. since you're upgrading storage anyways get the base model deck. Buy a caldigit nano for 230 dollars and rip the bg4 for it. Maybe even throw in a 1tb sandisk extreme for another 200 dollars. 400 + 230 + 200 = 830 dollars. Still 170 dollars short of the gpd win max, and with double the storage (although the microsd will obviously be slower). Use that 170 dollars for an aftermarket keyboard or a dock/usb c hub, or maybe some steam games!

@bryanmiller476 2 жыл бұрын

@@moltenhydrogen2218 the steam deck is sold for a huge loss at all storage sizes and done so cuz they have no plans to sell in stores, it’s gonna always remain only available online from valve themselves and they make up money by steam games which they get 30% of all money from anything sold on steam And upgrading the internal storage inside the steam deck isn’t made to be customer friendly and will void the warranty Then you gotta reinstall steamos to get that stock experience back and you don’t even know if that steamos will even be made available like that, we could be looking at a situation where once you erase steamos you are then stuck having to use another os

@moltenhydrogen2218 2 жыл бұрын

@@bryanmiller476 No it won't void the warranty. That's illegal in the US. And yes, valve has confirmed that steam os 3 will be available for download. Why would they not have it available for download? Please use common sense if you're going to make up excuses.

@SeanHodgins 2 жыл бұрын

These could be awesome for robotics applications.

@Shredxcam22 2 жыл бұрын

ABB has one for their irc5 robot controller and it is trash.

@fonix32 2 жыл бұрын

I was searching for a ultrabook / tiny PC for robotics and arrived here.

@tsionwilliamson1385 2 жыл бұрын

You say robotics I say networking and penetration testing I mean that things small enough for me to shove in my jackets inside pocket or a small bag with really good spec to size ratio and an inbuilt Ethernet jack and usb 3.0 IO I think that makes it like the perfect solution for anything you'd need to do in the field with a computer

@VincentGonzalezVeg 2 жыл бұрын

The platform, like a bike this thing that does this thing we want The idea mana-fest

@edstar83 2 жыл бұрын

@@tsionwilliamson1385 "perfect solution for anything you'd need to do in the field with a computer" Like hack the Gibson. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rL9-obOpncy-cqc.html

@LonelySandwich 2 жыл бұрын

Alternate title: highest end Intel chip barely beats previous gen AMD chip

@post-leftluddite 2 жыл бұрын

barely beats previous gen AMD chip with 3 year old GPU architecture....good for intel, finally using that R&D budget literally more than six times bigger than AMD's to get a win

@Uryendel 2 жыл бұрын

It's more because the intel chip is overheating than anything else

@strangestecho5088 2 жыл бұрын

@@Uryendel Bad thermals isn't really an excuse for a mobile chip.

@speedracer2please 2 жыл бұрын

"-While constantly glitching and stuttering" lol

@HanSolo__ 2 жыл бұрын

Nah it does not beat old AMD, it's an error margin.

@gnpaone 2 жыл бұрын

My first thought was "Is the netbook back in the market?" 😀

@BloodshedRomance 2 жыл бұрын

I actually really liked netbooks but the performance wasn't there so these make me extremely excited.

@dodecahedron1 2 жыл бұрын

they never left, current small entry level laptops and chromebooks are exactly the same thing in everything but name and performance

@madgodzilla12465 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see netbooks make a comeback in the mid range market. The smallest laptops we can currently get with modest specification is about 13". I'd like to see some 5500u systems around 8" or 9".

@h3xd3m0n9 2 жыл бұрын

You mean omnibook

@jbritain 2 жыл бұрын

The modern netbook is the chromebook

@TheJuggtron 2 жыл бұрын

We're heading back to the old days of "it depends what you're playing"

@thedestroyer3879 2 жыл бұрын

Becuse we no longer are on the gamecube and ps2 days

@TheJuggtron 2 жыл бұрын

@@thedestroyer3879 i was more refering to the days of Voodoo2/3, Virge, Riva128 etc

@zequixd519 2 жыл бұрын

@Comas Turda write it on Twitter cuz no one in KZfaq will trust you

@HippyHouse 2 жыл бұрын

@Comas Turda i think you secretly love the melanin

@sommerblume9671 2 жыл бұрын

@@zequixd519 what

@DwarfBaerdyn 2 жыл бұрын

"Specifically designed for you, the small business owner..." While I appreciate the vote of confidence, I do believe there has been some miscommunication. 😆

@NiphanosTheLost 2 жыл бұрын

Hell, I've been getting e-mails for months now trying to teach me how to improve the logistics of my semi truck fleet. I'm just trying to figure out when I bought one.

@joshuatatro4503 2 жыл бұрын

The problem for everyone except Valve is that AMD APUs with RDNA2 cores are currently exclusive to the Steam Deck...

@alexipestov7002 2 жыл бұрын

@Rettznom Economies of scale... lets see what Steam can pull off there

@locked01 2 жыл бұрын

Exclusive? Is that so?

@jonasamon9091 2 жыл бұрын

unfortunately, by the time the deck ships and is in the hands of consumers, there will most likely be rdna2 apus in new laptops and desktops.

@tienatngo9199 2 жыл бұрын

no one talk about battery?? i think It:s the most important thing. Long battery life make switch be a truly portable gaming device. I dont think steam deck can handle an AAA game for 1-2 hour, just like some gaming laptop.

@hendrikheim5665 2 жыл бұрын

@Rettznom The cost for them is overpriced is because demand and supply is low, to make profit and make back research, marketing and other stuff they have to charge a premium. There is a reason you could've found at times find laptops with a 1650 with ryzen 5 4600h under 600 easily, heck I even bought one under 500. When you have scale then you can keep the prices lower. Those overpriced gamepads in component probably doesn't even cost 400

@EmblemParade 2 жыл бұрын

As good as these are, Valve just blasts them out of the water in pricing. That's the real transformation that Valve is creating, bringing PC gaming down to a cost and level of accessibility that it frankly never had. $400 and you're in.

@hassam363 2 жыл бұрын

The thing I'm worried about is how long that price will last. It's some seriously aggressive pricing.

@voltagekd6159 2 жыл бұрын

Real talk

@ahsanihafizhu7129 2 жыл бұрын

@@hassam363 hope that they produced a lot of steamdeck enough so that it's hard to be scalped

@-Burb 2 жыл бұрын

@@ahsanihafizhu7129 You need to have a reservation to get a steam deck order, and you have needed to use steam for a couple months to get a reservation so most orders shouldnt be bots

@dontmatter966 2 жыл бұрын

Isn't that how the console business has worked for awhile now? They sell a product at a loss for awhile, and recoup the costs with other services that make it profitable.

@GianniKnowsBest 2 жыл бұрын

Linus: "These are not good for racing games " Also Linus: * proceeds to test racing games *

@kodingamedev 2 жыл бұрын

he was talking about the controls, not the graphics lmao

@squitlertron 2 жыл бұрын

Well how are you supposed to know how good it is if you don't test it?

@lanarkorras4411 2 жыл бұрын

Those ergonomics totally kill it as a gaming device though, whereas the keyboard... Well, I'd neither want to play nor work with that thing for as long as I would have to in order to justify a purchase in the first place.

@nesyboi9421 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, as someone who for the longest time only used a 3DS and DS for mobile gaming, I think I could actually get used to the thing considering its form factor is so similair. What would get me is the position of the sticks and buttons and the overall weight of the thing. Oh and at its price point I would rather buy a laptop and hook an xbox one controller into it.

@Ryan-li8qc 2 жыл бұрын

I dont want to hold a laptop

@andersonwallace4365 2 жыл бұрын

There is no scenario where this would be my preferred device.

@Marioand64Luigi 2 жыл бұрын

The steam deck looks to beat these by miles. These arent handhelds, they're literally small laptops that look like a nightmare to actually hold. Not to mention being way more expensive and worse performance wise.

@ligametis 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair they are worse in gaming, but overall way more versatile with that keyboard and even thunderbolt.

@Marioand64Luigi 2 жыл бұрын

@@ligametis But at that point why not just buy a gaming laptop? These things look about as portable but with less power. And sure thunderbolt is there but again, why not just buy a laptop? Is anyone really gonna buy a graphics card to connect these things to? I certainly wouldn't.

@ligametis 2 жыл бұрын

@@Marioand64Luigi Are you talking about buying gaming laptop in place of steam deck if you think just about gaming? Agree, gaming laptop is better than a deck with way more performance or even Switch due to library. But these GPD "mini laptops" are unique, they are a full computer, just a lot easier to carry.

@Tennila2 2 жыл бұрын

@@Marioand64Luigi This is why I decided to just use my phone with a Razer kishi controller to emulate games. And now when cloud gaming is getting more available there is really no need buying a powerful handheld or even a laptop. And if you still want a powerful pc then I think your correct in buying a laptop instead, since the ergonomics of these handhelds are far from optimal if you account for the weight and grip that they have.

@derekfurst6233 2 жыл бұрын

@@ligametis I'll say one thing, I type faster on the steam controller than any other controller i've ever used. And its not even close. On an xbox controller, I type like 20 words a minute tops. Steam controller i'm typing as fast as I can text, its amazing. even if you have a controller without touch pads, steam input has this "daisy wheel" thing (although i can't remember if they discontinued it or not) that even made typing faster on xbox controllers

@Thesilvernintendo 2 жыл бұрын

Valve: yes, exactly what we want. We don’t have to make it and people will still buy our games.”

@nexaentertainment2764 2 жыл бұрын

Well, half the reason for the steam deck is likely to push adoption of valve's OS (or linux in genreal) too. They seem to want to be freed from being reliant windows.

@WolvenSpectre 2 жыл бұрын

yeah... all the people will buy these $1750 GPD PCs instead of a Steam Deck or a compact laptop with a controller and stream the games.

@soragranda 2 жыл бұрын

@@WolvenSpectre I mean, the most value steam deck is the 700 dollars one... And most would still be buying more storage anyway, 1tb MicroSD is about 250 dollars. Cheapest than the ones right now but the steam deck would still come out next year H2. To that moment Zen3+ (with rdna2 GPUs are coming out!).

@Saiyan485 2 жыл бұрын

So basically, these competitors companies are manufacturing nano-ultrabook gaming laptops that have joysticks. Kek.

@neck-o 2 жыл бұрын

@@nexaentertainment2764 I don't think this one was running a Linux environment, but it could. Perhaps?

@azel7056 2 жыл бұрын

If anyone’s curious about the price and just lazy to look it up here apparently it’s around $999.99 on Amazon while the Full price is about $1,049.99

@waawee2186 2 жыл бұрын

And it sucks compared to the steam deck

@ThatsMrMaxHeadroomToYou 2 жыл бұрын

Currently £1399.99 on Amazon UK, exactly 4 times the price of the 64GB model of the Steam Deck.

@Mabruk853 2 жыл бұрын

yummy that looks soooo comfortable.......i can almost feel the pain in my wrists already, yeah nice. come on if it has a physical keyboard, it is just no damn "handheld" no matter how powerful

@orionfell 2 жыл бұрын

Idk doesn’t look too different than like a big 3ds

@Mabruk853 2 жыл бұрын

@@orionfell from a more abstract perspective you are absolutely right, but at least a 3ds is not square ^^ and it just really does not look comfortable at all

@DaJuicer5024 2 жыл бұрын

I run fighting game tournaments here in California, and can confirm that fighting games are 100% tied to being 60fps. Each move has a specific frame data, that assumes the game is running at 60fps. So things can get a little wonky if you run the game at anything other than 60fps.

@ZedDevStuff 2 жыл бұрын

is this why most fighting games slow down instead of loosing frames like most games?

@miguelborges7913 2 жыл бұрын

@@ZedDevStuff yes

@DaJuicer5024 2 жыл бұрын

@@ZedDevStuff From my understanding, yes. All of your attacks, and movement all have specific frame data, that is tied to the game being 60fps. I can use Dragon Ball Fighterz as an example. Most Light attacks in that game have 6 or 7f startup, and at 60fps it looks smooth. If you change the FPS from 60fps to anything else, the game will still have those attacks come out in 6 or 7f, but since the amount of frames you’re getting is different that will cause the game to look much slower if you dip in FPS. Or much quicker if you uncap the frames manually.

@DigitalJedi 2 жыл бұрын

@@ZedDevStuff That's exactly why. Frame based physics means that as it loses frames, it physically takes longer to calculate each thing.

@nexxusty 2 жыл бұрын

Why would use a shit terrible game like that as an example. LOL, you run tournaments for that trash? SF, Tekken and MvC are the only fighting games that matter.

@InsanitiesBrother 2 жыл бұрын

"The first GPD handheld with Intel XE Graphics"... Also Linus, has literally held the GPD Win 3 in his hands....

@allensword1855 2 жыл бұрын

Ikr I facepalmed when he said that

@HanSolo__ 2 жыл бұрын

Savage!

@foxdart 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah LTT has gotten just big enough that clearly Linus has less and less time to proof the scripts properly. Like ffs if they had watched their own content they would have seen this error. I know the guy just reads off a screen but even Linus in the moment should have grabbed this one.

@Vysair 2 жыл бұрын

@@foxdart LTT has script??

@techfreakjames 2 жыл бұрын

@AFK SOLITUDE You're recalling his line after the intro music. Before the music, Linus did say that the Win Max 2021 is the "1st GPD product with Intel Xe graphics." I noticed that error too. His editors have made mistakes like this before like when he reviewed the Win 3. Linus mentioned the GPD P2 Max but his editor showed a B-Roll of the GPD Win Max (2020). I'm not surprised if his writer makes such an error too. It's hard since they make a lot of videos per week.

@Casavo 2 жыл бұрын

It's funny for me as these devices fit my gaming profile way better cause of the keyboard yet I find the steamdeck more interesting. I only play strategy games like hoi4, ck2, and total war and yet I'm more interested in a steam deck that is impractical for that type of gaming.

@GaryA1682 2 жыл бұрын

Valves pricing strategy is aggressive and highly competitive if you ask me and it obliterates the prices on this systems regardless of spec advantages or disadvantages the only reason I myself would consider the gpd is because of that thunderbolt dock which is amazing to have but is it required for my use? Probably not. I look forward to the steam deck release 😎

@Ray-ji8xq 2 жыл бұрын

In Tekken 6, The Brokenness you were seeing was due to using Asynchronous Shader Compilation in RPCS3, Which skips rendering the objects until the gpu can recompile a shader and put this proccessing on a different CPU thread(s), It's worse on the Intel CPU because that has half the cores, meaning less threads where shader compilation could run.

@TheMedievalNerd 2 жыл бұрын

I'm more of a DOS Box retro gamer. And this thing about shaders with some emulators confuse me. Why doesn't it compile the shaders in advance? They have to be built in active memory on the fly?

@Ray-ji8xq 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMedievalNerd It's nearly impossible to extract shaders from any given game and recompile them ahead of time since they can be modified before being presented to the emulated GPU, so it ends up being redundant as the shader would need to be recompiled on the fly anyways. There's no way of knowing which shaders will be modified at any given time, so Emulator Developers resort to simply compiling them as fast as possible to minimize stutter.

@mbsfaridi 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMedievalNerd Interesting.

@TheMedievalNerd 2 жыл бұрын

@@Ray-ji8xq Awww! Thank you so very much for the detailed explanation! And now I know!

@Ray-ji8xq 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMedievalNerd No Problem 😊

@Xfade81 2 жыл бұрын

I always love how the auto generated subs say "do maternal".

@ronniebasak96 2 жыл бұрын

That's one way to read it

@marxist-leninist-protagonist 2 жыл бұрын

😳

@quinton1630 2 жыл бұрын

I searched for Doom Maternal to see what jokes people made up before even seeing those subtitles. Linus dropping jokes here

@Adam-qs5ir 2 жыл бұрын

Ha!

@jack0654 2 жыл бұрын

"Hey, I finished cleaning the menswear section of this department store, which section should I do next?" "Oh, could you do maternal" "Doom eternal!?"

@tmdosu 2 жыл бұрын

4:30 Still works with Trackmania well since it doesn't have analog acceleration or braking.

@zacharykew-denniss5068 2 жыл бұрын

Ah, Little Big Planet. I grew up on that series. We need a new one 😭

@Burssty 2 жыл бұрын

I really like that PC handhelds are going to be a competitive market. Will be really healthy for the handheld market and help compatibility between form factors for applications. Bring it on

@TheJohnboyhunter 2 жыл бұрын

"I really like that PC handhelds are going to be a competitive market." No, they won't. No one but Valve will release a handheld at what could be considered a competitive price, everyone else will just buy laptops if theybother at all.

@nomad_0036 2 жыл бұрын

always that one guy who has to be against something

@Tippy555 2 жыл бұрын

@@nomad_0036 yes, thats the point of discussion. having only one sided opinions lead to flawed and biased views

@nomad_0036 2 жыл бұрын

@@Tippy555 putting somone down is not discussion.

@WolvenSpectre 2 жыл бұрын

If you call $1750 competitive...

@Fishvap 2 жыл бұрын

Valve is the best player on the field. They're pushing Linux gaming hard and we will most definitely be seeing games with anticheat in the near future. I'm excited to see what they do with the Steam Deck, and I'm INCREDIBLY excited to see the capabilities of the Steam Deck. Here's to a decade of hopefully great advancements in technology!

@credit0880 2 жыл бұрын

linux gaming should have been on top years ago. sad its still yet to happen but, hey, its gonna happen!

@billyhatcher643 2 жыл бұрын

i agree cause game companies hate linux alot so i bet theyll make it impossible to play them on linux

@hossel_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@billyhatcher643 why would game companies hate Linux? just because they don't support it, it doesn't mean they have a distaste for the platform. it's just not worth it for them

@myopinionbetter4287 2 жыл бұрын

@@billyhatcher643 full time linux users are such a minority that most companies don't care. Many linux users still also use windows OS specifically for games which are incompatible with Linux. So companies don't invest in such a miniscule sector unless it grows, after 5%-10% there will be a decent attention to the platform. It's not some irrational hate lmao

@battlebuddy4517 2 жыл бұрын

@@myopinionbetter4287 plus Linux community tend hate closed source software so there that as well

@thecaybob1 2 жыл бұрын

The last segway was so great, I actually watched the ad.

@JMPoly 2 жыл бұрын

That "twist" effect after intro totally got me. XD

@AdmiralBison 2 жыл бұрын

The rise of handheld PCs/Gaming PCs. Hopefully there will be more options, skus and sizes to fit different budgets and demands. Personally I am hoping for an all spec'ed up 9'+ screen handheld gaming PC that could be my main PC for work and leisure.

@jordannoell4222 2 жыл бұрын

I find it much more likely that the steam deck will be the only real handheld pc on the market, and everything else will fall by the wayside. Valve is selling these at a competitive price to gain more msrketshare and get even more people on steam. Other hardware manufacturers are selling these devices and need to make a profit off of the hardware itself, have thin profit margins as if is, and are selling too an incredibly niche and underdeveloped market.

@Luxstar13 2 жыл бұрын

this more like the revival of netbooks and portable pc console at the same time.

@scurvofpcp 2 жыл бұрын

I've been using a win gdp max (prior version) for about a year now as a travel machine and they are decently sturdy and does pretty well with the thunderbolt external gpu. The intl iris in it kind of sucks balls in some games though, like anything pre 2012

@DwarfBaerdyn 2 жыл бұрын

Can't help but be the snarky one here. "...for an all spec'ed up 9'+ screen..." You must be a big one if a 9ft wide gaming console is portable to you. Jokes aside, taking the Switch approach and beefing it up by an order of magnitude does sound nice.

@scurvofpcp 2 жыл бұрын

@@DwarfBaerdyn The thing I like about it most is the form factor. it fits in a 10 inch box and that can really be nice for travel, rather than keep it stuffed under the car seat or behind the seat in the net, I can keep that bad boy in the glovebox.

@scarletspidernz 2 жыл бұрын

Intel: We can make the gpu faster by not rendering some things half the time 🤣

@Theboss00077 2 жыл бұрын

Thunderbolt port is great addition for this device and I hope Stema Deck will have it or at least USB 4

@vladislavkaras491 2 жыл бұрын

Man, this is great how computers are finally evolving ;D!

@Jdudhhsuxbsksj 2 жыл бұрын

I like to believe inside the deep areas of valve there lies a steam deck where there is a bunch of emulated games on it where most people are playing breath of the Wild

@bradhaines3142 2 жыл бұрын

probly the 1st desk. they know their market

@datachu 2 жыл бұрын

Lol, I'm actually playing breath of the wild right now on my 2-in-1 gaming laptop (in tablet mode of course xP)

@li5up6 2 жыл бұрын

It's funny that even when you are valve the only games worth playing are made by Nintendo

@calebstuder448 2 жыл бұрын

When BOTW released I'm pretty sure there was a huge race to see who could crack it for PC first. It took very, very little time

@GenuineRage 2 жыл бұрын

@@calebstuder448 yeah but im fairly certain all the early builds of it were running the inferior wii u version

@sergeybond97 2 жыл бұрын

I think you should also test performance at low wattages (10 - 15 watt). That would give around 3 hours of play time or more. Max performance with max power usage is ok but you definitely don't want use device in this mode and constantly charging it to play.

@chincemagnet 2 жыл бұрын

I’d be carrying around a power brick in my pocket with a 6 foot USB cable to charge while I played 😆

@lucasrem 2 жыл бұрын

sergeybond97 What u use now, is it better ??? This is for kids, not the nerdy games in mums house.

@JamesMichaelDoyle 2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem lolwut?

@aarontimm 2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem have a day off

@CiDK 2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem this is absolutely for the nerdy gamers living in mom's basement

@Narfu1 2 жыл бұрын

The DS was so ahead of its time - I mean just look at this, it's literally a BIG 3DS xD

@JmKrokY 2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@JmKrokY 2 жыл бұрын

What about dual screen Game & Watch

@nesyboi9421 2 жыл бұрын

I'd rather play on my DS than this tbh

@jesusbarrera6916 2 жыл бұрын

this is a laptop....

@nesyboi9421 2 жыл бұрын

@@jesusbarrera6916 yeah, a laptop with sticks

@jorgamund07 2 жыл бұрын

9:36 Production gets tired of correcting Linus and slaps stickers on the screen to keep him from mixing them up.

@ChannelRejss 2 жыл бұрын

"Maybe more broken ... but it runs faster." New Intel technology offering more fps unveiled. They call it "live removal of game assets during gameplay". What isn't there, doesn't need to be computed.

@lucasrem 2 жыл бұрын

GNZ We, developers need to support that, but we do more offscreen rendering now for ray tracing and all. u need to understand it first! Why you cry that, are you willing to rewrite all titles for this intelGamboy crap????

@ChannelRejss 2 жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem Where was I crying? It's clearly just a joke. 😅 besides, even if the assets need to be used for computing GI in the back, there's hardly any denying that visually clipping whole models will result in less compute for textures and possibly reflections, refractions etc...just out of curiosity though is that Tekken title actually even calculating any amount of GI at all?

@kieranlee9610 2 жыл бұрын

said this before say it again weirdly enough its just linuses gpd win max amd that gets more fps than the intel version intel one usually gets 10fps more in most games says this on the site too

@MrHeHim 2 жыл бұрын

The best/worst part about testing two completely different GPUs is that the drivers render different settings. So if you put in medium, you might actually be getting just under medium. This is part of driver "tuning" which IMO isn't cheating if it looks the same.

@sim2er 2 жыл бұрын

Depends on the driver settings

@greghowards1098 2 жыл бұрын

The best part is that, you don't have to be the bad guy

@jackcutter2 2 жыл бұрын

I'm still loving that Gabe is ENCOURAGING this. He WANTS people to he able to play anything on the go with a handheld PC, not a laptop that overheats if it's playing anything other than Sims 2 😂

@Thewaterspirit57 2 жыл бұрын

Laptops have come a long way in terms of good gaming options :V If the laptop overheats, that would be more on the manufacture not making a good enough cooling solution, or even the user trying to push the system too hard. Even the best gaming laptops are high end tier at best, not enthusiast class (which is another step)

@MrREAPERsz 2 жыл бұрын

Laptops today are just as powerful as most gaming desktops

@fartyfat6539 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrREAPERsz its more about affordability. yes there are tons of powerful laptops to play games with, but what's the point when it costs you 10x more than console/mid tier PC. that's why handheld PC like steam deck is a good idea. Its good enough to run some AAA games but its price is low enough to be an option to console gaming.

@Handles-Suck-YouTube 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 1050 ti Nitro 5 that I run both Destiny 2 and other semi-demanding games on without issue. ... all it took was ubdervolting the CPU with ThrottleStop and locking the fans to max. That said, I did try a 3070 equipped Triton 300 and that thing's awesome.

@MrREAPERsz 2 жыл бұрын

@@fartyfat6539 laptops are expensive because of portability. You can set up your laptop anywhere and play AAA titles maxed out. The steam deck is a good option, but it's only good because Valve is already rich as hell and can sell at a loss.

@Netsuko 2 жыл бұрын

I mean at which point do we stop saying "handheld" and start calling it "small notebook" Because honestly, the GPD Win Max is just that. A small notebook.

@ShockingPikachu 2 жыл бұрын

May we call it a netbook. Coz they were small notebooks

@marvinzimmerman1878 2 жыл бұрын

@. not really

@marvinzimmerman1878 2 жыл бұрын

@. not really

@thesteelrodent1796 2 жыл бұрын

machines this small used to be called palmbooks (a term coined by HP IIRC). They mostly died out because they're overall terrible to use and cost more than most 13" laptops

@MondoMurderface 2 жыл бұрын

This is one of the situations where the "Why not just buy a laptop" crowd has a point. The controls look awful so you would almost certainly need a controller anyways, adding a ton of girth to its carry size. Its for someone, but not me. Sticking with my steam deck preorder.

@MrFastFox666 2 жыл бұрын

From what I've heard, the Win Max actually has some decent ergonomics once you get used to it. Also, the Win 3 has the same Xe Graphics on the i7 model and is much smaller so it can fit in your pocket. The i7 ii65G7 is also likely better for gaming since it likely uses less power, leaving more available for the iGPU.

@dramaticmudderer5208 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrFastFox666 Never put a device(or anything) with joysticks out and vulnerable without a cover or something in your pocket, it damages them

@CAGEtheGEGEG 2 жыл бұрын

they've been here

@freemansfreedom8595 2 жыл бұрын

14:55 you forgot that it may also includes surprise fireworks!

@mikestevejunior 2 жыл бұрын

You finally show your face after a long while. I miss ya, glad you're back

@JoseGarcia-mi4ig 2 жыл бұрын

Too bad most of these “hand held” devices, literally cost the same as a budget gaming laptop with actual performance and cooling…

@sumeunggai5665 2 жыл бұрын

Ain't no gaming laptop going for 599. Only talking steamdeck

@JohnnyinCLE 2 жыл бұрын

@@sumeunggai5665 ... With a GIMPED storage option, no less. Give me 2282 or nothing at all.

@bytezero3818 2 жыл бұрын

And no battery time to speak of.

@DarkLink1996. 2 жыл бұрын

I mean, the non-max GPD Wins can literally fit in your pocket, so you're paying for convenience there

@JohnnyinCLE 2 жыл бұрын

@@bytezero3818 Don't get me started on that. THE PHAWX have a very good assessment on the Wh math, that does stand up, against the theoretical being touted. Like The Phawx, I've been using and testing portables for a long time. I have no doubt that Valve will eventually release a nice device. But the first model ain't it for me.

@Fintara 2 жыл бұрын

Even if they were the same cost as the steam deck, I'd probably still go for the steam deck. I like the form factor of it much better. I'd hate that keyboard being there when trying to play something with the joysticks. If I want a keyboard for the steam deck, I'll get a Bluetooth or USB solution.

@Thornskade 2 жыл бұрын

The keyboards on these aren't in the way at all. It's like a Nintendo DS but with a keyboard instead of a screen. They are also designed so you won't hit any buttons by accident.

@stagger9660 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah steam definitely wins in ergonomics

@rishirajsaikia1323 2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention that RDNA2 will be faster than the two.

@dramaticmudderer5208 2 жыл бұрын

@@Thornskade I think they meant it being in the way as in you have to force your hands around the keyboard to even hold the joysticks instead of them being in front of the keyboard

@Thornskade 2 жыл бұрын

@@dramaticmudderer5208 You don't have to. These keys don't get pressed by accident.

@manuelnunes1502 2 жыл бұрын

GPD came out before steam deck which I think some don’t know. It is nice to see more handheld PC being made.

@claverommel4638 2 жыл бұрын

That is so informative dude.

@elliotmarks06 2 жыл бұрын

10x smaller and it's still more powerful than my PC...

@CJSpade39 2 жыл бұрын

Not just 10x smaller but also 10x more expensive than your computer

@peekachugaming3231 2 жыл бұрын

So you watched the Video in 1minute. Its out 1minute and your commentary is 1minute old right now. So your PC seems to be blazingly fast if you can comment over the performance already.

@isaacmoon6739 2 жыл бұрын

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@elliotmarks06 2 жыл бұрын

@@peekachugaming3231 I'm on my 4.5 year old phone...

@benjicohn 2 жыл бұрын

I love when the captions just say “???” When a background person speaks . I love the LTT editors

@janpieterse7329 2 жыл бұрын

Would use these type of machines for on site tech support. Just need a hdd dock and maybe a portable dvd burner.

@YogurtSnipe 2 жыл бұрын

Portable gaming pc’s/decks getting better makes me so happy.

@orderlyhippo1569 2 жыл бұрын

“Who needs stutter when you’ve got butter.” -Linus 2021

@Maindric 2 жыл бұрын

Literally read this as he said it. Surreal.

@justahuman9273 2 жыл бұрын

@@Maindric it happens to me so often that it gets creepy 😂

@mattdeltoro2952 2 жыл бұрын

If they made a shirt with this saying I’d buy it

@mrbrittas3254 2 жыл бұрын

why quote something he said?

@Maindric 2 жыл бұрын

@@mrbrittas3254 why quote anything at all? Just looking at it, it's obvious OP liked it enough to provide emphasis to it.

@Falcon5ive 2 жыл бұрын

"Intel's top of the line...it promises to be an absolute beast, it's got 4-cores...." oh I see, Intel gets a participation trophy now.

@bigmclargehuge1170 2 жыл бұрын

More cores isn't necessarily going to help if you're limited to 25w.

@phionfire 2 жыл бұрын

@Kawaxte which is a lot slower than the competition in single-core, which is way more important for a device like this. So what's your point?

@Resanctify 2 жыл бұрын

These idiots fell for the core amount hype. 6 cores is barely a thought for actual thinking power users for browsing while a game is loaded. 4 cores is still the most non-VM users will need on a regular basis. You people have hype rot in the brain, you do know clothing brands aren't that different either right?

@phionfire 2 жыл бұрын

@Kawaxte it’s a handheld, if you want to do workstation tasks buy/build a workstation; fewer, faster cores, are far more useful here. This isn’t an argument, I was just pointing something out. If you want the best of both worlds, the closest thing is an M1 MBA/Pro, depending on how long your loads are, and how much you care about the slight performance deficit of the Air when it eventually clocks down. But then you can’t game very well, so they’re not very applicable here. They’re just the only true thin-and-light machines competitive with desktops in pro-level workflows.

@etaashmathamsetty7399 2 жыл бұрын

@@bigmclargehuge1170 with ryzen apus you can "overclock" (tdp increase) them using ryzenadj / renoir mobile tuning and more cores do help with a 25 watt tdp another thing i noticed with my 4700u is that it performs terribly in dx11 games but when using vulkan my fps is greatly improved

@phillee2814 2 жыл бұрын

I'm most impressed with the Intel, as that is currently WAY behind in terms of software graphics optimisation, and there are bound to be some huge gains to be had once developers start catching up with that. I wonder if it can operate over PoE?

@BESTNOODLEREVIEWS 2 жыл бұрын

what a time to be alive. this is the stuff i dreamt about 15 years ago

@8diva8 2 жыл бұрын

"We made it to where the Master Chief is standing on his thing." My brain just blue-screened xD

@UNORTHODOX_ 2 жыл бұрын

I’m glad I’m not alone!!

@nailozaz7596 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not alone!! (1)

@98SE 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not alone!! (2)

@anikun 2 жыл бұрын

"The best intel graphics to date" That was a very low bar to beat

@ryanwakebradtelle8682 2 жыл бұрын

One use case for a small keyboard with big ish key, especially for someone with small hands, às with 2 keyboards one for rash hand

@ziad3077 2 жыл бұрын

The title is misleading gpd win max was released before the steam deck was even revealed

@TYKUHN2 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised the Intel was faster in many cases, it was rendering half as much.

@jakelewis7595 2 жыл бұрын

I feel GPD should use the trigger style bumpers, plus if you are using it on a tv it can add for more ventilation when its sitting down on a table.

@gotoastal 2 жыл бұрын

The eGPU situation and lack of USB4 support on the Deck seems like a massive oversight

@snackbarian9937 2 жыл бұрын

Linus holding his mousepad and shouting his store front is more convincing than those 15 second ads before KZfaq videos. Shut up and take my money lol

@nokian9005 2 жыл бұрын

It's really weird to me that I can watch the no-audio closed-captioned "preview" of any of your videos, and my brain just fills in the silence with an imagined version of your voice.

@334nickg 2 жыл бұрын

So basically they're really small laptops that are uncomfortable to use and only get an hour or so battery life? I'd like to see a comparison of a full day of gaming between this class of laptop, a switch, and an ipad w/keyboard & controller. Maybe throw a laptop with a dedicated GPU in the mix as well.

@Its_Onion 2 жыл бұрын

hey guys can you do a good overview of Steam Remote Play? I've gotten awesome use out of it and i was wondering if you guys figured out some cool tricks or something for it. Something like how registering Notepad in the host PC as a game will unlock the rest of the pc to remote. you basically can get your host pc performance on your phone wherever you go.

@stephendavis1837 2 жыл бұрын

this thing would be amazing for flashing PLCs at work

@sietsedegrande213 2 жыл бұрын

It does look less usable as a handheld though

@Clickscap 2 жыл бұрын

When he played doom it looked pretty comfortable

@izamanaick 2 жыл бұрын

It does look more usable as a laptop though

@bmwofboganville456 2 жыл бұрын

Win Max is uncomfortable vs OneXPlayer

@techfreakjames 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Win Max and it's pretty comfortable. Majority of the reviewers of the OG Win Max liked it too.

@bmwofboganville456 2 жыл бұрын

@@techfreakjames the OneXPlayer layout is far superior. Just use a bluetooth keyboard if one is needed. Win Max is awkward, palms splayed outward, it's a design which will die off.

@ivanheffner2587 2 жыл бұрын

“It’s definitely broken on Intel, but it runs faster.” Great. Intel can render errors faster than AMD can render properly.

@Radgerayden-ist 2 жыл бұрын

Best optimization in programming, do less stuff

@theoriginaldylangreene 2 жыл бұрын

@@idkanymore3382 Intel's latest flagship just barely scrapes past AMD's previous generation....It's Intel fans that are seething.

@SkrovnoCZ 2 жыл бұрын

@@theoriginaldylangreene I think that both brands are good. Sometimes is better AMD and sometimes is better Intel. And we need that... the competition. Because having a competition sometimes leads to lower prices, and I think that nobody has problem with that.

@Heliocentric 2 жыл бұрын

@@andyastrand why do you care? Is your girlfriend trans?

@ivanheffner2587 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Paraphrase an observation and the fecal pillars appear. Intel vs AMD. Better / Worse. It depends on the task and the goal. On one game Intel has more frames and more improperly rendered frames. The same game AMD has fewer frames and fewer render errors. What is better depends on whether you want animation stutters when frames drop or if you want all of the frames regardless of whether all objects in view are properly rendered. Who.. The F-K. Cares.

@pyro226 2 жыл бұрын

That artifacting in little big planet? That goes all the way back to before 2009. My first laptop had such issues.

@bimoarya3679 2 жыл бұрын

hope the "smach z" also used as a comparison

@terrycook2733 2 жыл бұрын

I still think PSP was 10 years ahead of its time.

@grimmdaniel4622 2 жыл бұрын

Loved that. I remember, in its time it had much better games than smartphones have right now. Almost AAA games with decent campaign. For iOS/Android, apart from GTA ports there isn't any, just "mobile games" like Asphalt, or Real Racing. But honestly who wants to play with those?

@ReelPodcasts 2 жыл бұрын

"latest book in Lord Gaben's Gospel." nice one there. Props to the writers for that one.

@DEEZ_N4T 2 жыл бұрын

I might consider getting a handheld PC as I don’t want to drag around a laptop when traveling, it doesn’t even fit in some of my backpacks so a handheld PC like this might be good when I want to work and play on the go

@ichinichisan 2 жыл бұрын

9:35 Linus doing his Dr. Noonian Soong impression. Brent Spiner would be proud. 🖖

@speedracer2please 2 жыл бұрын

I'm really excited to see the state of this whole category by the time I have a family and no time for proper gaming! I like the idea of the Switch but it doesn't have most of the games I've been playing.

@SVW1976 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Linus. We've seen these before. 🙄 Theres a reason why we're waiting for Steamdeck

@WahrerKuroKiba 2 жыл бұрын

never thought I'd see Linus playing Tekken in a Tech Review

@MrHics 2 жыл бұрын

can you do a tech-quickie on the current state of USB4 - especially where AMD will probably lay with regards to eGPU compatibility etc

@ryu_san_ 2 жыл бұрын

It's expensive and not easily available, eg if something breaks it's probably not as easy to fix as a mainstream brand

@infesting 2 жыл бұрын

They are made out of the same parts as any other computer in this form factor. GDP is not making any parts except the case. It's all off the shelve components.

@GreyBlackWolf 2 жыл бұрын

Yea. Considering the GPD is between $1k to $1.5k, id rather get a laptop that has a much more powerful gpu and cpu and will easily run new triple A titles on high setting over 60fps. I just dont see either of these machines as worth their prices

@nsp585 2 жыл бұрын

"not easily available" - me : looks at steam deck not available for order at all for most of the world - yeah sure.

@bryanmiller476 2 жыл бұрын

@@nsp585 at it won’t be sold by anyone but valve themselves at all It’s like people here are actually under an assumption they’d be able to walk into a bestbuy, Walmart, Target, Microcenter or else lol It’s not, Only buyable from valve themselves period

@qwertyfreak0 2 жыл бұрын

I canceled my funding for these when I heard the steamdeck was coming, best choice I’ve made.

@CarbonPanther 2 жыл бұрын

Then again, that might kill of competition when everyone is buying the Deck! Valve can do this low pricing because of how financially successful they already are, AYA or GPD don't nearly have the funds to go that low and make mass contracts and are therefore reliant on ours, however, i find it odd that even with that in mind, most of these recent portables do anything but innovate, using the same internals for years now with the same general reused layouts.

@KibaWolfbane 2 жыл бұрын

Same, I considered the Win 3 until I saw the deck. Don't see how this one's any different than that.

@tradeka4206 2 жыл бұрын

@@CarbonPanther like you said, none of these companies have the resources and reach that valve does, so it will be easy for them to come in and basically corner the market on these specialized handheld PCs. They’ll be offering better performance and most likely better build quality at a better price. Their deal with amd is a huge advantage too, there’s not really anything the other companies can do to compete with that.

@maserade12 2 жыл бұрын

I love the steam deck but the lack of thunderbolt is why I'd rather keep my GPD win 3 for now. One of the main reasons I got the win 3 is so I don't have to haul my whole PC to a friend's house and instead just bring the win 3 and an external GPU. Though as soon as one of these portables has zen 4 with a usb 4 port I'll gladly get it.

@alexipestov7002 2 жыл бұрын

@@tradeka4206 Not necessarily, the Steam Deck fits a niche, the competitors just need to fine a different one, after all custom computers of an unusual form factor isn't terribly crowded

@Demonoid1990 2 жыл бұрын

I'm kinda hoping the Alienware UFO will make a resurgence at one of the trade/tech shows.. Looked pretty interesting.

@psycomutt 11 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed coming backs here and reading the ignorant comments/arguments a year+ later. Good fun

@geforce5591 2 жыл бұрын

The steam deck is offering similar performance at half the power. ~15 watts.

@ZedDevStuff 2 жыл бұрын

and half the price

@stealthysaucepan2016 2 жыл бұрын

*Better performance

@thunderingeagle 2 жыл бұрын

@@stealthysaucepan2016 + better ergonomics

@_Chad_ThunderCock 2 жыл бұрын

+better battery life

@HealyHQ 2 жыл бұрын

@@_Chad_ThunderCock +better in general

@apocalypseap 2 жыл бұрын

Intel only runs faster on Tekken 6 because it's literally not rendering some of the graphics.

@christophersholes1377 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Intel struggles to compile shaders while the game is running in multiple emulators. AMD does much better there, often being unnoticeable that it is compiling.

@Nutt_lemmings 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh the games not meant to be played above or below 60fps

@christophersholes1377 2 жыл бұрын

@@Nutt_lemmings It fails to render them at 60 as well for the same time frame. Also when you're benchmarking things you uncap frames to see maximum potential.

@blackoak4978 2 жыл бұрын

I actually like how you guys do ads lol

@codemasters 2 жыл бұрын

Two of our games in the same video? Blessed 🥰

@EmulationDojo 2 жыл бұрын

And these competitors can too be yours, for only the low low price of 3 Steam Decks.

@mattdeltoro2952 2 жыл бұрын

“Who needs stutter when you’ve got butter?” Please make this into a shirt

@trashcleaner 2 жыл бұрын

*Who needs butter when you've got stutter?

@cpeyton78910 2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@ajkleipass 2 жыл бұрын

This tiny computer thingies remind me of the netbook mini notebook computer I had a decade or so ago (Win XP era).

@nguyenquanavi 2 жыл бұрын

Other people: *treat devices like carrying eggs* Linus: *grab win max by the screen*

@kurtnelle 2 жыл бұрын

The form factor for these types of devices is very important. This looks good as a child's first computer.

@lilkittygirl 2 жыл бұрын

It’s great for anyone. This is definitely far beyond what a child should be using. These are enthusiast adult gaming machines

@Ssshrugs 2 жыл бұрын

@@lilkittygirl Obviously these aren’t supposed to be baby’s first computer. What the guy was trying to say though, was that they look like shit. Which they do, especially compared to something as slick looking as the Steam deck

@m.irfan-7069 2 жыл бұрын

Switch like form factor is better way for gaming

@Green0Photon 2 жыл бұрын

Steam Deck will be better. These don't have LPDDR5-5500 quad channel, these have LPDDR4X-4800 dual channel, and part of why consoles can be good is the GDDR6, so having the newest fastest widest channel memory is incredibly important. As with all other AMD integrated laptops, these are all Vega, not RDNA2. And this is Zen 2, even if it could've been Zen 3. Valve can't use Zen 3 yet, since AMD has none of the Zen 3+RDNA2 custom silicon done yet. As for the Intel chip, those 96 cores are the same as with the 1165G7. The only difference is some number of 100-500MHz depending on the scenario. Which probably won't be helping that much. Really, by far the most important thing is really that the memory is choked on all but the Steam Deck. If you did want to use these, I'd probably buy the Intel just due to the updated iGPU though, but really the better purchase is the Steam Deck by far.

@szurketaltos2693 2 жыл бұрын

Even for productivity the steam deck isn't so bad. Just use an external keyboard, though some sort of stand may be necessary too.

@ligametis 2 жыл бұрын

When you will be able to buy deck here and now I think GPD will already have something better. Steam Deck also doesn't have a keyboard.

@ciphray 2 жыл бұрын

These are actually quad channel lpddr 4266, not that that puts them ahead of the steamdeck, however quad channel with the memory used in these and the steamdeck is not equal to quad channel in a desktop, quad channel here ends up with 128bit width like dual channel desktop ram, unlike quad channel desktop which is 256bit

@ligametis 2 жыл бұрын

@Jack Reaver well one can function also like a computer, you can trubleshoot problems in servers, quickly connect it to other computers, overall it can be used for some serious valuable work. While Steam one even though has computer insides can pretty much be only used for gaming, even taking a couple of notes on train would be completed

@_Chad_ThunderCock 2 жыл бұрын

@@ligametis the stuff ur talking about is all the reasons to get a small laptop lol

@WorstDeveloper 2 жыл бұрын

Man, I'm getting pretty excited for APUs. Maybe I'll just skip dedicated graphics on my next PC.

@AlexChama 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah although it's nice and 2-3 years ago this would have tickled me immensely I'm gonna settle with my Steam Deck pre-order. That being said, this form factor is still very nice. It's capable and not as big as a laptop, power efficient and made for gaming first still. Maybe after 3-4 years with my Steam Deck I'll be tempted to try that form factor as well.

@mastertchift6415 2 жыл бұрын

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@Jake1702 2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully in a couple years these things can all start shipping with SteamOS or some other distro.

@ss-xy2im 2 жыл бұрын

Highly unlikely GPD will release linux drivers. So far they have relied on the Linux community for drivers.

@nicholasanderson6341 2 жыл бұрын

I have the GPD win max previous edition and it was uh.. not great for on board games, but it was/is AMAZING for running stadia.

@sinisanicetin 2 жыл бұрын

Real compare is between GPD Win Max with unlocked bios to 3733Mhz and newest Intel drivers to hit 4266Mhz on that platform like I have and GPD Win Max 2021 version. I also use Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB. Try Linus and compare that ;)