Don’t ask me the price

Don’t ask me the price - HP Z8 Fury G5

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HP’s new Z8 Fury G5 is a monster! With the new Intel W9-3495X workstation CPU, four (FOUR!?) Nvidia A6000 GPUs, and up to 2 TERABYTES of RAM, this will make your puny best-of-class PCPartPicker dream machine look like a pi by comparison
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0:00 Intro
1:00 Let's annihilate some benchmarks
4:30 It's drawing how many watts?!
5:40 Time to game
7:20 Taking a look at the Z8 Fury G5
10:30 What in the world is a personality slot
14:15 But what if we made it... louder
16:55 Outro

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@martindag1413 Жыл бұрын

You should do a comparison on how much performance per dollar and per watt has changed over the last 10 years.

@dedantisocial3315 Жыл бұрын

I think that would be a great video.

@La_sagne Жыл бұрын

yes please

@andyk192 Жыл бұрын

First time I've seen a suggestion on here that is actually worth watching. I'd love to see them do that!

@zqzj Жыл бұрын

Flops per Watt is the calculation

@InfiniteDarkMass Жыл бұрын

10? no, 20!

@clawbro Жыл бұрын

As a data scientist currently procuring enterprise hardware for my firm this is a nice starter rig, some of the Ai servers would make Porsche 911s look affordable.

@jacobgirling7739 Жыл бұрын

What even exists that's more powerful than this? I thought a6000 was the most powerful thing they sold.

@Alucard-gt1zf Жыл бұрын

@@jacobgirling7739 simple, you have multiple cpus and even more gpus

@clawbro Жыл бұрын

@@jacobgirling7739 Anything that has an A100 or a H100.

@thatjokerperson7062 Жыл бұрын

@@jacobgirling7739 ai accelerator specific cards

@jort93z Жыл бұрын

@@jacobgirling7739 Also, you don't need to use a single computer. When you are working with large models, you might have a whole server rack filled with a dozen A6000s or A100s for your work... This is about at much as you get in a desktop workstation though. Anything larger would probably be put into a rack. Because they'll be too loud and hot to sit next to. In the video they show what "rack mode" sounds like, an actual rack server for AI is even louder.

@Jauzaah Жыл бұрын

Actually very interesting to see a computer that has actually been designed and not just slapped together.

@RyoHazuki224 Жыл бұрын

As someone that works for HP, specifically in the tech support department and even more specifically for the Workstation support, I can't tell you how many super odd questions we get on these things! haha. Of course most of my customers don't max out the specs on these, we get a lot of the lower end Z series like the Z2's and Z4's.

@KnightMirkoYo Жыл бұрын

What kinds of questions? :3

@satibel Жыл бұрын

@@KnightMirkoYo is a 24 core xeon enough for excel?

@captainheat2314 Жыл бұрын

@satibel bruh must be running the whole east coast transactions excel

@satibel Жыл бұрын

@@captainheat2314 tbh they had issues with some covid cases stopping getting tracked because they hit the max number of lines in the file.

@kek353 Жыл бұрын

@@satibel the government was using a version of Excel released in the 1990s so yea they're at fault

@dragomirstefan2131 Жыл бұрын

According to Dan, the perfect PC for WAN Show.

@awesomestuff9715 Жыл бұрын

"Might be a little overkill"

@oxfordsparky Жыл бұрын

Needs more, well everything really for Dan.

@jamesrobinson6330 Жыл бұрын

He needs the VRAM

@alexmawdsley Жыл бұрын

@Глеб Сальманов they didn't buy it but I bet if they did, Dan would absolutely be trying to get his hands on it

@equinoxe3d Жыл бұрын

...but only when it's in rack mode. Then use RTX audio on it to cut off the noise.

@Neoxon619 Жыл бұрын

The fact that they put multiple GPUs in here makes it perfectly clear that this wasn’t meant for gaming.

@Chumpal Жыл бұрын

YWN

@carltonleboss Жыл бұрын

RIP SLI

@BattleOverride856 Жыл бұрын

It could do it as a gaming server....

@lannstarr35 Жыл бұрын

or realistically any practical purpose outside of 3D design and modeling

@justnathan_4087 Жыл бұрын

@@BattleOverride856 what? a serverpc? You do realize a gpu is amost always useless for server pc's?

@beebait1464 Жыл бұрын

I honestly wouldn't mind having that case. Screw the tempered glass, I want my side panel to act as a gpu support bracket. They could easily add an adjustable support. Or a foam pad that pinches the gpu.

@lianglqufo Жыл бұрын

Probably the most powerful PC with the case that looks like it's from 2010. HP has some bonkers taste.

@Tydusis1 Жыл бұрын

It's like a sleeper. Imagine showing up to a lan party with this

@user-sb8cs3le2j Жыл бұрын

It’s beautiful. No pride parade lights or ugly boy racer aesthetics, just utilitarian class

@symix. Жыл бұрын

It defineatly doesnt look like case from 2010, check "Z620" or "Z400 workstation" to see what case from 2010 looks like...

@leogiri2863 Жыл бұрын

@@symix. yeah, but you have to admit that if you saw this for the firs time besides a z800 you might not be sure which one is older until you check the ports

@juliest631 9 ай бұрын

In person, it looks and feels premium. It's a well built tank.

@Betonslav Жыл бұрын

As an architect I can confirm that this would be great for a smooth work on big projects like designing skyscrapers or new urban areas... and as an architect I can also confirm that this is something I could never afford :,D

@Neil3D Жыл бұрын

I assume you're using something other than Revit then, cos Revit won't be able to leverage a fraction of what's in that workstation

@seth7553 Жыл бұрын

@@Neil3D We play around with revit on old i5s and integrated graphics at my school 😂

@AlwaresHUN Жыл бұрын

My friend bought Threadrippers for his company for a similar work (they doing render concepts about building), and those are the fraction of the cost of this xenon monster.

@BigBoss-kk4sr Жыл бұрын

@@Neil3D Yes exactly, Revit will use approximately one of those 56 cores and crash 30 mins into your sync with central

@noahosborne6454 Жыл бұрын

design a house with a security flaw and then rob it

@joekenorer Жыл бұрын

HP's proprietary cooling was genius and a pain in the ass in it's day, It's kind of cool to see them doing it again but really effectively. It feels like a nod to those old, green, plastic channels.

@smiths7317 Жыл бұрын

@Leah Jiraiya Spam bot, spamming links.

@hovant6666 Жыл бұрын

I miss green PCBs and add-in cards galore ;_;

@LunaWuna Жыл бұрын

@@smiths7317 report the bots

@Dracula.25 Жыл бұрын

@@smiths7317 thanks man 👍

@RaceSimCentral Жыл бұрын

I have a retro gaming PC that has those green shrouds. It overheats with them off even though the thermal paste was recently renewed lol

@toucan_tv Жыл бұрын

Animation renders might be useful for these kinds of systems. I would love to see 250 frames being rendered to benchmark etc.

@BillLambert Жыл бұрын

For comparison, I just ran the same Classroom blender scene in 13 seconds on an RTX 3090 FTW3 (haven't touched the clocks). Obviously those A6000s have twice the VRAM so they can better handle huge workloads, but it's neat how close you can get with a last-gen "prosumer" GPU. What I'd really like to see on the Xeon-W is code compilation benchmarks. I'm not ready to decom my Zen2 Threadripper just yet, but it's nice to see Intel giving the HEDT/workstation market some attention after a decade of total neglect.

@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын

Yes, compiling latest Linux kernel with "allyesconfig" would have been a good test for this kind of hardware. You need minimum of 32 GB system RAM to be successful without swapping forever.

@z33tanner Жыл бұрын

Cool to see what a oem manufacturer would design a no limit workstation like, loved the memory cooler design.

@carlosbonmarist Жыл бұрын

You say would as if this isn’t something enterprises are already buying

@ronniekregar3482 Жыл бұрын

@@carlosbonmaristbro, this is Fortune 500 company level shit…this isn’t a common enterprise machine.

@hyperhawk007 Жыл бұрын

The best graphics card is the eye

@Dracula.25 Жыл бұрын

@@hyperhawk007 what type of card is that ?

@krishyb Жыл бұрын

@@Dracula.25 A bioengineered one that maximizes resolution for the exact spot you're looking at, not to mention virtually infinite VRAM. Isn't the best for maximum framerates, however

@RetroRefitted Жыл бұрын

Was not expecting a RuneScape reference in the beginning of a video lol

@hendrixc6988 Жыл бұрын

After I maxed I bought a gaming pc and never came back.

@ish26 Жыл бұрын

Same, I also didn't expect a RuneScape reference coming from another guy, can't remember who but now I'm hearing it everywhere. Time to go back and chop some wood?

@SagaTF2 Жыл бұрын

too bad they referenced the wrong runescape

@hendrixc6988 Жыл бұрын

@@SagaTF2 Ironman on rs3 was okay. I was playing it while maxing OSRS.

@Colifin Жыл бұрын

Not only a RS reference, but also the footage was from within the Max Guild. So unless it was added in post, someone there has a legit account.

@christofferothen7537 Жыл бұрын

I love the HP Z cases, picking a used one up this weekend, a bit on the older side, but will handle the intended application with ease. I am paying like 700 $ for it, and it is about 5 years old, I needed it to be able to handle VM, WOL and to be rack mountable. The cases alone is worth quite a bit in my book. If you can get one, do it, toss in your prefered hardware and go ham.

@baini92 Жыл бұрын

I like how the power input for the GPU's are towards the front of the case, should be more of that in regular cards also.

@Meg_A_Byte Жыл бұрын

For the GPU rendering, you gotta switch to CUDA graph in the Task manager, that's what's actually being used, not 3D load.

@davestrider9838 Жыл бұрын

Lol. So lazy they don't know this

@Meg_A_Byte Жыл бұрын

@@davestrider9838 Yeah, honestly that surprised me.

@superslimanoniem4712 Жыл бұрын

@@davestrider9838 could also just be that Linus didn't notice on camera. There's a bit less checking when on-set than during the writing process

@tyguy3876 Жыл бұрын

And they're about to be running a testing lab...I'll stick with gamers nexus

@danmorariu9889 Жыл бұрын

@@tyguy3876 it's not lLnus that needs to know his stuff in the lab, it's the people he hires

@h1Lu Жыл бұрын

Hey Linus, what is the price?

@c0mplex564 Жыл бұрын

Fuckin Gottem

@volvo09 Жыл бұрын

Linus, what is the price?

@jradish Жыл бұрын

w question

@milosuperduperfun2103 Жыл бұрын

Ya what’s the price?

@georgeprice4212 Жыл бұрын

The price? An arm, a leg, your children and a few vital organs.

@drcyb3r Жыл бұрын

The university I work at has an Nvidia server which has a lot of computing inside. I think it was the 8U DGX-H100 by the looks of it. And they even had another one in the next server cabinet. Alongside with a lot of really cool looking server related stuff in a big room full of server cabinets. That was really overwhelming. They even put the climate control on little touch panels so an admin could easily correct or view the temperatures of everything. And the equipment in there was so cool, a lot of stuff I have never seen before. So a "small" PC like that HP one might be interesting for a company with not that much space but with high demands on rendering.

@BrandonDoran00 Жыл бұрын

The title makes me want a tech version of The Price Is Right, have contestants guess the price of obscure or extreme tech, and play silly games for prizes.

@dennissdigitaldump8619 Жыл бұрын

I love that you finally covered a beast of a machine that's NOT for gaming. There's plenty of computer ->workers

Жыл бұрын

x99 xeon here... i always love when they bring this sort of workstation content here and hopeful that in 10 years that will be my cheap beast machine hahahahahahhaah

@mcslender2965 Жыл бұрын

Ngl I really like the case design of the HP enterprise lineup. I wish more companies would do this for their gaming lineup

@Kyle496 Жыл бұрын

This is proof HP can build something good, but the rest of their line up is proof they don't actually give a damn.

@Ryan-ct3rv Жыл бұрын

Yeah this case looks fantastic

@TitusSc Жыл бұрын

If you’re digging the clean understated aesthetic, you should look into the Fractal Design Define 7 line of cases

@mintagenart Жыл бұрын

I agree. The "gaming aesthetic" has some of the ugliest designs made by man. The "professional" look these machines have is a relief for the eyeballs.

@TimeLemur6 Жыл бұрын

@@Kyle496 I'd wager HPE is where most of the money comes from, makes sense they'd care more.

@owenfulkerson7291 Жыл бұрын

We have the HP Z4 G4s at work and I thought those were nice. This is awesome. Hopefully I can mess with one someday

@as-qh1qq Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the electrical interlock ... it should be a must in any par kW device, especially with exposed sodered components.

@danielmaurel3195 Жыл бұрын

The perfect build for a small AI researcher/Developer ... not like it's needed but it will be awesome to have

@h1Lu Жыл бұрын

But... but... b-the price...

@tehs3raph1m Жыл бұрын

i think if you had $20,000 you would be better served with a80s

@Serpensin Жыл бұрын

@@h1Lu I would buy such power, if I had the money. I don't care if I need it. 😊

@Ty-jc5qv Жыл бұрын

@@Serpensin lmao an admiral doesn't have 40k

@jaredbitz Жыл бұрын

Now I can dunk on my roommate for *only* having a single 3090 in his machine learning setup.

@st_ar457 Жыл бұрын

Linus’s new haircut looks like he’s having a midlife crisis and is about to buy a mustang ecoboost Edit: jokes aside it honestly isn’t bad. If he likes it I’m glad

@Seizuqi Жыл бұрын

lmao

@seanm3644 Жыл бұрын

Too bad he already bought a Porsche

@h1Lu Жыл бұрын

He couldn't afford a better hairdresser than a dog anymore, but heyyy, he got fast PC!

@PartyPoison1995 Жыл бұрын

Yeah Dennis actually did a better job

@justrens7809 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same I'm glad someone commented it

@darkgravystains Жыл бұрын

The genuine joy Linus is feeling is so fracking wholesome.

@SierraLimaOscar Жыл бұрын

These Z8s (and their previous Gens) are the gold standard for live broadcast graphics. We're talking real time rendered virtual studios in photo realistic environments and multiple live camera tracking. And they will do that day in and day out for years (typical lifespan is 5 years. 3 for more ambitious productions). Dell and Lenovo have competitive models, but the HP Z8s seem to be the preferred model for live graphics.

@cutcorners6005 Жыл бұрын

That was the chasis intrusion detection. It's a security measure, not about air flow.

@dutifulbarrel9084 Жыл бұрын

I was hoping I wasn't the only one that knew that

@blahorgaslisk7763 Жыл бұрын

@@dutifulbarrel9084 Well as the machine shut down when he opened the side panel I*D say it's both in this case. Normally the intrusion detection just will scream at you and log an intrusion event, but the machine will still be running. Given that servers and advanced workstations usually have hot swappable fans, PCI-E cards, drives and so on it's not really a good idea if it shuts down just because you open the machine. But in this case opening it up will compromise the airflow and cooling, and given the hardware that's probably why the intrusion detection has been set to power it down when someone open the chassis. This behavior probably can be changed in the setup menu.

@gorrestfump1237 Жыл бұрын

Man acting like LTT doesn’t know what intrusion detection is

@cutcorners6005 Жыл бұрын

@Глеб Сальманов It is useful for large companies. they don't want someboy stealing or tampering information. If somebody does, they will know. There will be permanent log in the bios and telemetry to IT admins is also possible. It has other uses too, for service as well. It works even when PC is off btw.

@disupare1610 Жыл бұрын

@Глеб Сальманов Depends on information needed really. I mean this machine would never be used by small family business so stealing a physical media in bigger company is likely a lot easier method of theft than going unnoticed through various security services and devices.

@DiamondDepthYT Жыл бұрын

As someone who uses an HP Z230, the fact that this is the same family as my computer is totally insane. In 10 years, I may likely have something like this!

@idzan-private Жыл бұрын

Here is another HP Z Series PC user, but with Z240 Tower, Xeon is still decent even-trough it is only 4 core/4 thread E3-1225 V5, but in combination with Quadro T600, 32GB of RAM and 512GB Nvme Gen3 SSD is, well, still capable even for lower-end gaming and productivity like development and photo editing. Might upgrade from Xeon to i7-7700 if it goes for fair price on second hand markets here in Croatia (at least then will have 4 more threads)

@DashHawk Жыл бұрын

me too having The Same HP z230 i7 4790 see you next 10 years

@Matthew-il8to Жыл бұрын

Had a z240 and threw a 1050 in it and could play battlefront and masterchief collection decently in it. Wonder what card would be good in this one ten years later.

@maxmouse3 Жыл бұрын

This machine is BONKERS. Amazing. I used to work with a Z600 something and it was quite powerful and well built, but this is next level

@juliest631 9 ай бұрын

I have the Z8 G4 with dual 4114s… excellent. I also love how HP is dedicated to these models, bios update almost quarterly to ensure security and stability.

@MacTX Жыл бұрын

I use decommissioned HP workstations, they're really good option for building cost effective gaming computers with. They're well built and are still very usable when companies liquidate them. They just need a gaming GPU. Nice to see what I'll be buying in 3 to 4 yrs.

@youknowjuno145541 Жыл бұрын

Where do you buy them? Honest question

@johnaligizakis Жыл бұрын

Yeah I want to know too

@evtimgaydarov2267 Жыл бұрын

@@johnaligizakis At any site.

@MacTX Жыл бұрын

@@johnaligizakis see my reply to Wendy

@MacTX Жыл бұрын

@@youknowjuno145541 Strange, I guess I'm now allowed to tell you, I don't see my reply to you anymore, LTT must have deleted it. oh well.

@starpoint2112 Жыл бұрын

@LinusTechTips - I have worked at HP (and the former Compaq) - they design their servers and PC's so that a tech only needs 4-8 tools MAX - usually 1 multi-bit screwdriver is all they need. The air shrouds are designed to maximize air flow over parts that need it the most then get it out of the case. When Compaq was around they had a wind tunnel to test the cooling fins on CPU's (circa Pentium 1 days) so that in the early Pentium days the CPU did not have a fan, just a cooling block.

@conormurphy4328 Жыл бұрын

9:14 finally a machine that fights back and makes Linus unplug it before he opens it

@Tydusis1 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for showing this. I've always wondered what one of those z-machine types actually could do

@danieloberhofer9035 Жыл бұрын

"...arguably the best Workstation CPU..." That can indeed be argued.

@DustyTheDog Жыл бұрын

I was grinding Slayer until here recently I got me 120 last week, and have kinda had that feeling most payers get after achieving a long-term goal. What to do now? Plenty to do, but making that decision is what is hard for me. .

@Engineering240 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see Linus’s reaction on some real enterprise hardware like HPE Apollo or HPE Synergy. Everything Z by HP has been developed and tested by HPE for years. Hot swap power supplies, fiber channel cards, hot swap fans and drives, and management using iLO to update firmware and service packs.

@awambawamb Жыл бұрын

10:35 someone bring Linus a band-aid and an ice cream! He's too excited by the sheer power of this machine to think to his own health xD

@ruimaciel2763 Жыл бұрын

You know the writers are good when they insert RuneScape references in the script

@WayStedYou Жыл бұрын

Then lose points for rs3

@Fridge_Fiend Жыл бұрын

Imagine hating rs3 in 2023, toxic andy on line 1

@mikesitservices Жыл бұрын

Made my day when I saw that, fletching in the Max guild.

@irn_pacifist Жыл бұрын

You know the writers are bad when they insert an RS3 reference in the script

@ruimaciel2763 Жыл бұрын

@@irn_pacifist I would love to believe the writer meant osrs but linus opened rs3 instead

@CarthagoMike Жыл бұрын

I know many people don't care for it, but can I just say I appreciate it still having a 5.25" bay? It gives so much room for expanded front I/O, but not many cases have them these days.

@patrickprafke4894 Жыл бұрын

I miss those bays. So useful fo many things and reasons.

@TheTardis157 Жыл бұрын

I still use my over decade old HAF 932 case because of all the front drive bays. They are crazy useful for expansion which in my case is 2 disk drives and a USB 3 hub. I can rarely find any newer cases that have 5.25 bays anymore. It really sucks.

@patrickprafke4894 Жыл бұрын

@@TheTardis157 I have the 922. My wife has thr 932. Love. Them. Both!!

@matteogiberti3297 Жыл бұрын

Yesss!!! A tower case with at least two 5.25 front bays, handles to move it and room on the front for AIO triple fan radiator is what I'm looking for (and doesn't seems to exist...).

@patrickprafke4894 Жыл бұрын

Heck, there is even a thing on Ebay I bought to put something like 6 ssd's in a front bay slot.

@ProjectPhysX Жыл бұрын

This PC would be ideal for my FluidX3D computational fluid dynamics software. Multi-GPU with 192GB VRAM allows 3.6 billion cells - not the largest I've ever done, but being able to have such hardware under your desk is pretty neat.

@skippletsfilm5198 Жыл бұрын

We have these machines (not that highly specced of course) and their predecessors at work, and i've gotten the Chance to do a GPU swap in one of them once. My god these things are well build. And freakishly heavy. At first i was a little confused about the non standard layout and components but i reckon if you work with these regularly (which i don't) they make a lot of sense in terms of serviceability and ease of use. Great machines, but i mean they better be for the price you're paying for one of these bad boys

@WJCTechyman Жыл бұрын

I love the case design. Then again, I like my HP EliteDesk 800 G1 tower, it looks kinda plain to Lenovo cases at the time, but simple lines are very nice. It's probably the reason I like 1980s home component stereo gear.

@Demorthus Жыл бұрын

It would've been cool seeing it do a render with geometry nodes for a complex nebulae render, something with volumes & rays to.. trace/bounce. For reference a 'simple' one can take 3-5 minutes for a ~4k frame render on a 3090.. But besides the classroom demo the others are quite old as far as demo scenes.

@calvinkielas-jensen6665 Жыл бұрын

I love seeing the number of submitted Blender benchmarks increase a ton on the same day this video was released.

@demiRaziel Жыл бұрын

Oh god doing high detail CFD and CAD/CAE work on that would be a dream

@erikyoung5139 Жыл бұрын

I just slapped more RAM in my Fury G4 today. I love how easy they are to work in.

@louislukas Жыл бұрын

As an Blender Expert (already on my second doughnut 😂) I'm very impressed by those Rendertimes.

@lepus6511 Жыл бұрын

As a blender expert, I never get any project far enough along to worry about rendering lol

@kayyo2106 Жыл бұрын

I remember seeing a video about a computer from the 70s on Action Retro and it had a swappable "personality board" with the OS. Maybe those two personality slots are a nod to that.

@seanvandermolen7287 Жыл бұрын

I've been digging my Z4 G4... This will be my next workstation.

@thaddeussmith7566 Жыл бұрын

You know something's impressive when Linus doesn't do an ad break less than a minute in

@miriades 7 ай бұрын

The whole video was an ad for HP that’s why 😅

@jmac217x Жыл бұрын

as someone who has been waiting hours for renders I'm very impressed

@magicalfruitstudios4162 Жыл бұрын

Makes you wish you could still put multiple GPUs in one computer for rendering doesn't it... But why would you need multiple graphics cards in your computer if you can't game on them? It's like "Screw you home 3d modelers. You can't game on 4 cards, so you can only have one now. Just by a $40,000 computer if you want more performance. I'm sure you can afford it."

@frp1276 Жыл бұрын

Why not use a remote service?

@RowdyTheHitman Жыл бұрын

@@magicalfruitstudios4162 you can still do this? Redshift and Octane still have support for multiple GPUs

@goblinslayer5404 Жыл бұрын

@@magicalfruitstudios4162 u can still do that? Hell, u can literally put one gaming card and let the rest be workstation cards, and just render on those, while ur gaming at the same time.

@magicalfruitstudios4162 Жыл бұрын

@@goblinslayer5404 Workstation cards cost a lot more than gaming cards. Being able to add multiple gaming cards is the best bang for your buck option, if it was possible. RTX 8000 is $5000, and an RTX 3090 is $1400.

@Setorrs Жыл бұрын

I built myself my dream pc last week with ryzen 7950x3d, rtx 4090, 64gb ram at 6000 frequency. Was a bit overkill for todays games but i do use virtual machines so i'm going to have fun with my pc.

@kunal31011995 Жыл бұрын

Happy Holi Linus and team 🥳

@Cup_70 Жыл бұрын

This is going to be one of those classic videos we all go back and look at 8 or 10 years from now to giggle at.

@Cup_70 Жыл бұрын

Lmao I made this comment before he mentioned it. Imagine buying one in the future. It's nuts to think of what we will be doing 10 years from now that this is considered slow and obsolete.

@Pasi123 Жыл бұрын

@@Cup_70 I have an old HP xw9400 Workstation in my collection with 2x 6-core AMD Opteron 2419 EE for a total of 12-cores, and 32GB RAM with 4x 8GB DDR2 sticks and 4 empty slots with the possibility to upgrade to 64GB. The xw9400 was released in 2006 and the 6-core Opterons in 2009. For few years you've been able to get 12 or more cores on mainstream platforms like AM4 and of course the cores are much faster and have hyper threading

@blahorgaslisk7763 Жыл бұрын

@@Cup_70 For many years I kept a computer magazine I bought back in the day just so I could flick through it to remind me how far we had come. In it they tested three computer systems suitable for office use in a small company. They all consisted of a computer that served four serial terminals and a printer. Now the interesting thing was that all three systems was based around a computer running a Zilog Z80, 64KB RAM and floppy storage. The terminals were VT-52 compatible and that single computer served them all. Yep that's right one Z80 with 64KB memory was considered enough for four simultaneous users... I don't remember the price of the systems, but the big thing was that they were considered "affordable" for a decent sized company... Perhaps once a year I would take that out and page through it to remind myself as I was working with servers that had 8 MB of RAM, more then 100 times the amount in the Z80 servers, serving up to 32 serial devices. Some of these booted from tape instead of disks. And these were no more expensive than those Z80 machines...

@fsbodever3496 Жыл бұрын

Because we'll still be grinding fletching levels in Runescape.

@zchen27 Жыл бұрын

We'll all be laughing with our graphene processor phones that probably can do what this machine does with 2000W for only 5W of input lmao.

@ericdeltoro8484 Жыл бұрын

In 10 years, I can't wait to buy one of these for $200. :3

@tombrauey Жыл бұрын

I just hope they did a reminder so that they can do a follow up video in 10 years

@TeddieBean Жыл бұрын

We'll all get reminded automagically™ by the KZfaq algorithm in 10 years time, don't worry 😂😁

@miriades 7 ай бұрын

The world will be so different from now in 10 years 😅

@johnforsebury985 Жыл бұрын

I really like the case design tbh, wonder if I could build a consumer-level pc into one of those

@NotSoMax Жыл бұрын

The main benefit of those renders being a few seconds faster than a normal workstation isn’t just that you can see it basically render quality in your window, but those faster render times add up over time, ie, rendering animations. So what would just be like 5-10 seconds faster adds up pretty quickly to minutes or hours of time saved. Tbh I’d love to see LTT cover more workstation and productivity builds and compare stuff with that in mind. Focusing on stability, longer renders, animations, user experience in these standard programs like Maya or blender, simulations, etc. I feel like it’s a little difficult when you just have bigger bench marking numbers vs, this system would take 3 hours for this animation where as this one would take 1.5 hours. Or we experienced more crashes when using X build than Y when working on these scenes.

@AddieDirectsTV Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure we use similar machines for the weather graphics systems at the TV station. At least they’re in the same family as those.

@Superbustr Жыл бұрын

That's a nice looking work station case. The two 20Gbps front IO usb C ports are to die for.

@geekehUK Жыл бұрын

You guys should put a call out to the people and companies using these kinds of machines for any super demanding but visually interesting workloads for you to use when testing / benchmarking. Also a video on innovative / unusual uses for super high performance hardware would be interesting. BTW so SLI is basically dead but what about Crossfire, since you've decided to go team red for the time being, it'd be interesting to know. I always liked that it worked with different cards.

@rpfour4 Жыл бұрын

10:36 Oof! That's a nasty elbow scrape you got there!

@CoalitionGaming Жыл бұрын

As a content creator who has done a bunch of content on the HP Z workstations, especially for repurposing old ones for budget gaming rigs, this is awesome to see. You don't see many regular tech channels showing off Z workstations that are NEW lol.

@Mark_Griffin Жыл бұрын

I get to luckily worth with these bad boys at work (and the lower ranged Z4's which are also nice). Mainly servicing and keeping them working for our edit teams, real nice bits of kit to test things on. Not as spec'd out as in the video but still a chunky £8-10 worth

@How_Many_Monkeys Жыл бұрын

Having the shrouds and cowling around fans/components is such a good idea and makes me wonder why it hasn’t been done before. I’m not a tech genius, just an auto tech, but seeing how crazy-optimized HVAC systems have gotten in vehicles, seems like it could be easily translated to PC cases.

@jblack3761 Жыл бұрын

It's been done in the server world for as long as servers have existed. In desktop/tower PCs they generally just have enough free space and enough fans that specialized shrouding isn't needed.

@larsolav Жыл бұрын

@@jblack3761 There are a lot of desktops with shrouds too. I remember we had a pentium 4 furnace that had a shroud for the CPU cooler.

@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын

@@larsolav I think the reference design for Pentium 4 used a single fan for both CPU and PSU and needed the shroud to make this possible.

@larsolav Жыл бұрын

@@MikkoRantalainen Didn't know about that. The one we had had a shroud to a mesh in the side panel, so wasn't a reference design.

@jzytaruk Жыл бұрын

looks perfect for my homelab.... pihole is quite demanding!

@WilliamAndRose1 Жыл бұрын

So I get that you are excited, but the ~63,000 Cinebench score there isn't top-end. AMD's Threadripper PRO 64-core (5995WX) gets around 70,000 - and that came out a year ago. And quad RTX A6000s aren't a new thing - those GPUs have been around for over a year. I wonder why they didn't include the new RTX 6000 Ada Generation, which are twice as fast?

@JohnSheppard92WasTakenThxYT Жыл бұрын

You can really tell this is sponsored by intel though. There isn't a single mention of AMD's Threadrippers at all, just that this 56 Core is "arguable the best workstation CPU on the market" which will depend heavily on your workflows. I find that sentence a little misleading, because not only are there Threadripper Pro's with 64 Cores, which I wouldn't be surprised if they still can outperform these, there are also new 96 Core models rumorend to arive soon which will absolutly destroy these. I'm not saying that these CPUs are bad or anything, they are very powerful and the amount of RAM they support is definitivly a big advantage for them, just to declare them the best without any mention of their biggest competition is really unnecessary. Especially in this community which knows about AMD. Intel at the moment just cannot compete at the workstation or server market on performance, they have value of course, but just not for pure performance, please don't ignore that

@AyushBakshi Жыл бұрын

I have one of their old models. Z8, provided by office. Beautiful solid mechine

@FairFireFight Жыл бұрын

the personality slot is obviously where you plug in the personality cores, like a morality core so the AI in the computer doesn't flood the facility with neurotoxin

@JamesFluker Жыл бұрын

Very cool to see a commercial machine like this on the channel. It's amazing to see what tech is behind the things we take for granted.

@philtkaswahl2124 Жыл бұрын

That render was so fast my mind refused to acknowledge it was done for a moment.

@nerdegem Жыл бұрын

I recently deprecated a Z800 workstation I was using as a server that was probably 5 years old when I got it, and I've been using for another 4-5 years. The only reason I got rid was the power draw as it still had plenty of horsepower (except for the PCIe gen2)

@SilverGhost689 Жыл бұрын

I love how Linus showed a rev counter instead of a speedometer 0:50

@ineedpineapples Жыл бұрын

There's no better timing, I JUST finished another video and LTT uploaded. A blessing from the lord!

@st_ar457 Жыл бұрын

I understand this feeling oh too well

@gordowg1wg145 Жыл бұрын

Very cool build, a bit surprised it wasn't a bit taller to take advnantage of the PCI lanes for expansion, but it was very well packaged as it was. But did HP still charge for the A-V, service contract, or whatever it was that they kept trying to upsell you on when you did the buy test a while back?

@jackkellaway3 Жыл бұрын

They’re not taller so they can be laid sideways in a rack mount kit. Having said that they are massive systems.

@gordowg1wg145 Жыл бұрын

@@jackkellaway3 The case...

@abcyclops Жыл бұрын

To be fair, with the bandwidth those cards are getting, there might have been actual trace-length/density issues which is why the board has a PCIE x16 above the CPU - it might not have been physically POSSIBLE to have 4 ports below the CPU, let alone 2 running at PCIe Gen 5 x16

@gordowg1wg145 Жыл бұрын

@@abcyclops Yup, for sync'ing the GPUs, but I see I wasn't very clear - I was thinking additional fast storage, maybe audio, maybe connectivity? it would also give the potential for more through cooling. 😎

@ImSerkex Жыл бұрын

As someone who still plays RuneScape, I appreciate the intro. Thanks writer of the script

@dylansullivan2774 5 ай бұрын

did not expect a OSRS shoutout, always awesome seeing my favorite game mentioned lol

@impasta9093 Жыл бұрын

When even the pc makes nicer sounds when you open the side panels, than your car when you open the door 😂

@zilog1 Жыл бұрын

oh. I was wondering when hed look at one of these. i have an old z840 i picked up off ebay maxxed speced for like $300 lol. Old but still reeeealy nice especially for $300

@chrisbaker8533 Жыл бұрын

Unless you got real lucky on an auction, i'd highly doubt you got dual 22 core and 2TB of ram for $300.

@zilog1 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbaker8533 it was a dual 22 core v4, and only 32 gb ram 😔

@o_o6869 Жыл бұрын

used these z8 machine quite good for almost anything you put on it and even make no fuss about multitasking plus other heavy stuff

@LaczPro Жыл бұрын

There's a reason why my current laptop is from Z: Performance! Even on old models, it's insane. This one beating anything you throw at it except gaming is not a surprise. That's why I also say IT sometimes get the coolest toys :D

@LBenn302 Жыл бұрын

My respect for you after the RuneScape comment just rose greatly. You sir are a scholar and a friend.

@pkt1213 Жыл бұрын

We had HP in this model line like this at my old office. Dual xeons with 64gb of RAM, top end quadro, and some other insane specs. I think I figured out it was about $7k. The cyber security they ran were so arduous, that my 5900x was generally faster.

@xmine08 Жыл бұрын

Good old IT bogging down highly specced machines. Same at my company, can't run shit on these machines without contemplating throwing it outta the window

@ruslanmalakhovskiy Жыл бұрын

That's the best computer for that 16K setup they did some years ago. I like that Linus made reference to that video.

@eugenenalpin6058 Жыл бұрын

Oh lol, I was sitting here expecting an intermission as in an ad or intro, but the video just kept rolling

@austinmaiden4663 Жыл бұрын

The crazy thing is that 5 years from now you'll be able to get this second hand for well under $1000

@lefroste6370 Жыл бұрын

more like 10 years but yes

@SStarlight9614 Жыл бұрын

@@lefroste6370 maybe more if GPU prices continue to be outrageous in Nvidia world 💀

@davidpinnington213 Жыл бұрын

Picked up a 4 year old z8 last month with 2x cpu 128ram and a P6000 GPU for £2.8k including 2 monitors 3xSSD and 12pm the warranty as a refurbished unit - HP really upped their game on construction - reminds me of the SGI’s I ran 25 years ago - this will keep my 3d gfx/printing/modelling/noodles/cfd studies going for a while

@reveriesduh Жыл бұрын

No you won't lol. GPU prices alone nowadays don't drop that much over 5 years.

@austinmaiden4663 Жыл бұрын

@@reveriesduh the 2080 ti went from $1200 to $350 in that time span. And workstations have even greater depreciation. When a workplace buys all new top-of-the-line equipment so they can get the most out of every minute of the day, then when they go to upgrade after a few years, the market gets flooded with old workstations. Maybe this exact model won't quite be $1000, but a similarly spec'd workstation might

@robertlinke2666 Жыл бұрын

for some extra context, pixar has a whole datacenter just devoted to rendering their movies frame by frame, so called rendering farm which for some movies can take days of rendering. forget getting coffee. you start it, and you go home till tomorrow this can render frame, or even scenes in reasonable time, drastically improving productivity for large render operations like pixar for example this can cut the time to create a movie down from years to months

@h1Lu Жыл бұрын

Try and capitalize your comment, and it'll get LIKED!

@Fay7666 Жыл бұрын

I remember reading that Pixar never really saw their render times reduce, as they're always pushing their envelope on a pretty equivalent pace compared to tech evolution. But then, I've heard some other studios had this same paradigms but during the last few years tech actually started to catch up and render times have finally started to come down.

@ultraindigo Жыл бұрын

I believe it is called Blinn's law who postulated that render times remain static as computer horsepower goes up. Gotta dial up those displacement maps, particle counts, subsurface scattering samples, and pore stretching

@miezoo Жыл бұрын

"We have to send this back ?! Yeah...." i am crying with you. :D

@m.junaidmahmood4209 Жыл бұрын

These machines are usually mounted in racks and used not with Windows, but instead any unix bases system and handle multiple user requests like in a server environment.

@Bound4Earth Жыл бұрын

They built a machine with some of the most expensive components and put it in a case from 2000. What is wrong with HP engineers?

@Truckie1245 Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen this trip 20amp breakers, they are crazy and powerful render machines. Also the machines took about 20 minutes to render massive 3D projects.

@MrTeddy12397 Жыл бұрын

There's no way that pc draws even close to 6kW...

@cloudy7003 Жыл бұрын

You'd need a huge surge of power to trip that, dont think this pc could do that on its own

@Jrodsly Жыл бұрын

And here I am looking at the very HP workstation you had in the $69 PC video to use as a base for the family file server I want to build. The fact that this machine is in the same family is insanity.

@Rockony Жыл бұрын

Now is 40k In 10 years wil be like 600$ lol

@charlesbrown4483 Жыл бұрын

Idk about the rest of this stuff, but I appreciate the RuneScape shoutout in the beginning of the vid🙂

@Tommy_The_Gun Жыл бұрын

I just have a though. Remember the times when this type of "high end" PC was um... "affordable" ? Yeah... I think it is the 1st time in the history where the actual top possible configuration available for the costumer is priced as decent used (or new) car, while low end PC is more or less... a Steam Deck. What is also hilarious is that you can play same game on both (but in different quality & resolution). The disparity between high and and low end was never that big in PC world. Also... the usage cost... who will gona pay electricity bills ? I guess at that point you either don't care because you are sleepin' on the money, or you don't care because your parents will pay the bills... XD Also, a side note: All of those GPUs have a blower style cooler. Superior type of cooling if you ask me. Compact, and vents hot air directly out of the case. It is a shame that this type of design is not being used more often.

@jimmymyers Жыл бұрын

The Apple Lisa was an insanely expensive PC in the 80's, things have been expensive for decades

@chai_lxx Жыл бұрын

Those gpus are probably the cleanest prettiest gpus I’ve ever seen

@ncl3rdy2 Жыл бұрын

I use Blender professionally, and my single 4090 renders classroom @5.93 seconds. Though with NV Link those 4 GPUs should scale much better for extremely large scenes where you need more than my 24gb of VRAM. Still though that is a fantastic machine. And I am pleased to see a workstation covered on LTT. Let alone starting the video with some Blender renders. But ultimately for a Blender user, we spend most of out time in the viewport modeling, simulating, sculpting, texture painting, creating shaders, animating, and more. And then a lot of the time in my own work, depending on the scope of the project we switch between Eevee or Cycles depending on the time constraints, and overall final output desired. And more often then not we also work with the compositor built into Blender so we can render out fully composited frames directly at render time instead of having to go to Nuke, AE, or Natron unless absolutely necessary. Thanks for the representation though LTT for us that do more than gaming!