I Will FIX Your Wifi - MoCA and Powerline at Colton's House

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Colton's WiFi is just like his work ethic: it SUCKS! How can we solve this problem? Ethernet? Maybe, but why worry about running new cables when he's got plenty in his walls. MoCA and Powerline will get his house in order and get his internet running smoothly so he can once again become gainfully employed.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Why Colton? Why?
1:31 Two Possible Solutions
2:18 Scoping Out the Coax
4:35 Making Holes for Glory
6:44 Hooking up the MoCA Network
8:59 MoCA Security, Setup and Troubleshooting
12:05 Giving Up
13:13 Can Powerline Save the Day?
15:01 Does it work? Testing Powerline
16:29 What's the benefit?
17:54 Powerline Security and Compatibility
18:27 Stress Testing
19:05 Conclusion

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@Felttipfuzzywuzzyflyguy Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised Linus is still willing to help out an ex-employee. Even though he allowed Geoff to buy that body pillow, Linus is letting it be water under the bridge. Good on him.

@georgerr335 Жыл бұрын

Geo just took it, didnt buy as instructed by Colton lol

@giomjava Жыл бұрын

Colton left?!!

@Wonback Жыл бұрын

@@giomjava no, it's an inside meme

@jakutokv Жыл бұрын

@@giomjava Linus fired him

@TheBenSanders Жыл бұрын

@@giomjava yup Colton got fired out of a canon his last day. Now that was a wild stream.

@dantex777 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, it's nice to see the professionals in the biz run into the same head scratching scenarios as I have when trying to help my family with tech solutions. Technology is both fun and amazing, as well as stubborn and temperamental.

@matthewlee9728 Жыл бұрын

there not professionals theyre enthusiasts and there is a big diffrence

@matthewlee9728 Жыл бұрын

they are pros at making video content but not at it work they dont do it for other people and tske liability for screwing somthing up for the record i love their content

@GlorifiedGremlin Жыл бұрын

@@matthewlee9728 Many of them are literally professionals who are highly educated, that's why Linus hired them lmao

@matthewlee9728 Жыл бұрын

@Luka Tim ok they may be professional by those loise standards dosnt make them good at it hard to argue with that stupid logic

@matthewlee9728 Жыл бұрын

That's like saying mcdonalds employees are professional cooks they technically are but it's not tge sane as a line cook at a quality restaurant now is it

@Rafy_24 Жыл бұрын

Its nice to see Linus in the holidays spirits... Helping a freshly unemployed man...

@sebastianvangen Жыл бұрын

@@HanmaHeiro Wait waaaaaaaaassssssssst that 2015?

@metaldragonmike Жыл бұрын

He's the reverse Grinch.

@KillerWhale806 Жыл бұрын

@@metaldragonmike isn't the grinch just reverse santa???

@matthewzaloudek Жыл бұрын

@@HanmaHeiro yes that is the joke thank you for explaining it

@metaldragonmike Жыл бұрын

@@KillerWhale806 exactly the point of my joke.

@Merjia Жыл бұрын

"Anything for content" spoken like a true LMG employee! Also I love how he has his entire staff trained to do a plug for merch every time they're handed a merch item.

@TheTrueLuguslaGaming Жыл бұрын

How many times are we gonna "fix" Colton's networking before we force him to just move

@guessedflounder8916 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@freewayross4736 Жыл бұрын

Just get a electrician and get it done probably

@FlameSoulis Жыл бұрын

@@freewayross4736 The return of Brian?

@Oscar4u69 Жыл бұрын

*before he gets fired

@DamianTheFirst Жыл бұрын

Maybe when Colton would be re-employed he would get an "accomodation package" what will enable him to move into less network-cursed place

@sadmanh0 Жыл бұрын

Something not mentioned in the video is that if you're doing the powerline solution you should really make sure it works well for you while it's still within the return warranty period. Older buildings, specially condo buildings, have really fucked up wiring and it makes the internet significantly slower and laggy.

@PhilfreezeCH Жыл бұрын

Exactly this, I live in a very old house and bought a PowerLine adapter expecting 200-400Mbit/s, I got 20Mbit/s.

@debbiebernhardt5406 Жыл бұрын

I gotten to like power line Ethernet, it was pretty good since we were the only ones using it

@ixpaul Жыл бұрын

Yup tried the power line method. My place gets around 250mbps off my ubiquiti ap ac lite and got like 20mbps off powerline. But I also feel like I plugged the powerline on the router side into a power strip rather than into the wall but too lazy to even attempt it again when I’m okay with my WiFi speeds

@asdanjer Жыл бұрын

not really ducked up. Just different power phases. That can easily ruine it. It dosn't really have a lot to do with the braker though.

@debbiebernhardt5406 Жыл бұрын

@@ixpaul here a tip, have 2 different lines of Ethernet over power going through a 20 amp twist lock. It act like the phases are ignored.

@Gusto3791 Жыл бұрын

Put some tape on the wall where you’re going to drill through. It’ll help with the drywall blowing out the back side. Also don’t push super hard. Let the bit do the work. Alternatively, drill through with a pilot bit then bore to the proper size from each side.

@kairon156 Жыл бұрын

"Also don’t push super hard. Let the bit do the work." That's what she said?

@sergiogsr Жыл бұрын

Another one. Drill from the side that you want to show a better presentation.

@timmah2723 Жыл бұрын

@@sergiogsrYeah. I was scratching my head trying to figure out why they didn’t just drill out from inside the room. Then they wouldn’t have had to worry about drilling through to the right spot.

@grex2595 Жыл бұрын

Option 3. Don't run the cable through the wall until you've tested it. They could have used a router in bridge mode and connected that to the moca for testing before drilling. If it worked, they would still probably need to follow option 1 or 2 to test it's real world performance, but given that it didn't work, they could have avoided the drilling altogether.

@stevensola3361 Жыл бұрын

Also go from the inside and drill out.

@Gatsby_OW Жыл бұрын

Colton always seems like he's on edge and doesn't know where he is or who he is, but is just happy to be included. He's a golden retriever.

@leoblack8497 Жыл бұрын

He's not a dog , he's a person lol

@JizyaDhimmi Жыл бұрын

@@leoblack8497 A dog is so more worth it than a person. Ugh, persons.

@retroactivevision Жыл бұрын

@@JizyaDhimmi Cringe

@willgaj_8353 11 ай бұрын

@@JizyaDhimmi "The more I get to know people, the more I love my dog." ~ Mark Twain

@joshyazg2120 9 ай бұрын

@@willgaj_8353and now look at Twain he's dead huge l + ratio

@Starach Жыл бұрын

Bought a house and found the whoever built it was a TV nut and ran Coax to every single room in the house from a central point. I had no idea I could use them for internet, this changes everything!

@gonzostwin1 Жыл бұрын

The elders would tell you, because every tv required a cable connection

@TheClockUpOnTheWall Жыл бұрын

Make sure any splitters are rated to 2000Mhz. And disconnect unused runs from the main splitter.

@bboi Жыл бұрын

“TV nut” lmao. It’s standard to have coax in all rooms.

@BenKlassen1 Жыл бұрын

Don't neglect to cap unused coaxial jacks with resistors.

@ShaunRuigrok Жыл бұрын

Have you considered using the coax as a fish wire, to allow you to pull Cat 6 from that central location to every room?

@TheDisturbed0ne1 Жыл бұрын

Anthony gets so much love, but man, Colton really deserves just as much. He seems like such a genuine and amazing dude!

@otherssingpuree1779 Жыл бұрын

He needs it being unemployed these days is quite hard. But seriously though, Dennis, Colton and Linus trio is great.

@sinuslebastian6366 Жыл бұрын

His smile is just so genuine and the dude is always smiling! Love ya Colton!

@otherssingpuree1779 Жыл бұрын

@@sinuslebastian6366 Long time no see Mr. Lebastian.

@lingonsorbet Жыл бұрын

Colton's such a great person. Genuine and really funny. Too bad he's unemployed soon :/

@sinuslebastian6366 Жыл бұрын

@@otherssingpuree1779 I've been here all along :)

@dhawthorne1634 Жыл бұрын

Coax splitters can be directional. Since the cable next to the computer was presumably for TV signal, it is possible that the line was split somewhere in the house, not far from where it enters the structure. (Mine is screwed to a ceiling joist in the basement). Removing the splitter and getting a F2F adapter to connect the two internal runs directly could have solved the problem.

@Kamology_ Жыл бұрын

Yeah I’ve only interacted with directional splitters. 90% of the work setting up moca was figuring out the directionality and other existing cables

@tuninggamer Жыл бұрын

The splitter also needs to support the frequencies of MoCA or it might filter out the signal (insofar as I understand it…)

@saillively Жыл бұрын

that is what they were probably going to look at, but they couldn't open the cable box

@dhawthorne1634 Жыл бұрын

@@saillively A splitter would be pretty useless if it was in the box and you had to run two separate lines to the house anyhow.

@kylerodgers8144 Жыл бұрын

Another good reason to use MoCA is if you have an RV and you need the antenna outside for a point to point solution. Most RV will have a coaxial plug on the outside so instead of drilling into your RV you can use two adaptors.

@martin5697 Жыл бұрын

Do you have power outside?

@Jacob_Overby Жыл бұрын

@@martin5697 When yer plugged in, yes

@teslacoiler 8 ай бұрын

An external WiFi access point (mounted on the wall of the house) and a WiFi client mounted on a RV window (inside, fixed to the glass with two strips of double sided tape) can easily solve the problem with less troubles.... Cable is always better than WiFi for fixed uses but WiFi is always better than cable for mobile uses (and an RV is definitely a mobile use!)

@yensteel 4 ай бұрын

Too late, I've drilled a hole already. XD

@TheStig827 Жыл бұрын

Colton being in sales, it 100% tracks that he'd try and fix this problem with a hammer and crowbar.

@matthewm5287 Жыл бұрын

What lol not all salesmen are clueless. I sold cars and hung out with the mechanics. None of the sales guys were car people…. Wait I get your point.

@TheEchelon Жыл бұрын

@@matthewm5287 lol

@flucazade Жыл бұрын

a hammer and a crowbar can solve all problems

@TheBlackCat1997able Жыл бұрын

Used to be in sales....

@hjr2000 Жыл бұрын

Don't diss Colton's ethics pal. He's a top man. Should totally be fired though.

@QuantumSolice Жыл бұрын

With MOCA, the coax splitters need to be rated for the frequencies that the MOCA adapters use. There are also MOCA filters that you can put on the input of the first splitter to block those frequencies from leaving your home. When set up properly, MOCA is far superior to the powerline adapters. I always recommended them when working in that industry.

@Dr.Spatula Жыл бұрын

Do you have a brand or model recommendation for MOCA?

@bilditup1 Жыл бұрын

As a practical matter older splitters, despite not having been tested for higher frequencies when they were released (as they weren’t in use) could work fine. It is worth trying before tracking down every last one in your home and replacing them, IMO, which I ended up doing to no real benefit. That said MoCA is far and away the most reliable alternative to Ethernet, and even if old splitters *did* put a bit of a damper on performance, it should definitely be considered well before powerline, which is spotty and slow even in relatively new construction.

@webfischi Жыл бұрын

I wanted to write the same thing, they even hinted "it uses the same frequencies as dish" which indicates 950-2150MHz at least in Europe. Regular cable splitters do 5-1000, high quality that support dish are 5-2500MHz, old cable splitters could also only work until 450 MHz but because he already had cable internet, it need to be at least work until 1000MHz.

@kiyoponnn Жыл бұрын

superior in terms of latency?

@bilditup1 Жыл бұрын

@@Dr.Spatula bunch of them appear to be rebadges of the same underlying controller. My stuff is a bit older (MoCA 2.0) but I’ve tried a couple of brands without running into issues with either (Actiontec, Zyxel/Motorola). GoCoax seems to be popular these days since they’re price-competitive and their reps can sometimes be found on Twitter. MoCA 2.5 models that support 2.5GbE speeds are also out now, I’m not sure how much of that bandwidth can actually be used (and these might be more sensitive to splitter quality; I haven’t used them). Some MoCA 2.5 stuff also only comes with a GigE port, so make sure you get one with a 2.5GbE-capable port if you want to take advantage of those speeds.

@Menirz Жыл бұрын

One thing to keep in mind with MOCA is that a lot of older cable TV Coax used splitters & band pass filters with a cutoff frequency below what MOCA operates at. Some of these filter devices are also directional, so it can be quite frustrating to set up if you don't have a good idea of how your coax is wired. A simple coax cable tester can help troubleshoot how wires are ran and terminated, but if any splitters were built into the walls you may just be SOL.

@ShakilAhmed-kf5nd Жыл бұрын

"I just neglect my family" - Colton 2022

@0Aberration Жыл бұрын

"You have some c***k?" - Linus 2022

@Jessev741 Жыл бұрын

"You can do a LOT of things." - Also Colton

@MoonWielder Жыл бұрын

Just an extra Powerline tip, for anyone wanting to try it out! Most packages for Powerline actually tell you the max length that you can space two adapters in the network. Most are right around 100-150 feet. You may also run into problems if you run in a path that crosses a refrigerator, as some can distort the frequencies used by the adapters. Hope this helps!

@mightygreen3364 Жыл бұрын

And in general, just try around a bit with different outlets, I 8x my speed by using a different outlet

@WENGACZLP Жыл бұрын

Also switch mode power supplies such as phone charger wreak havoc on the signal speed

@La_sagne Жыл бұрын

i used to have a dimmable lamp where having it anywhere between 0 and 100% brightness would massively lower the speed.. and that was 14 or 15 years ago when speed was quite limited anyway - i had a 2Mbit connection back then i think

@DreitTheDarkDragon Жыл бұрын

@@La_sagne Sounds like triac regulator

@connhughes13 Жыл бұрын

I like their chemistry, wish they did more videos together. Linus doesn't get to be on camera with people high up in his company/have been there long enough to where both of them can be an absolute savage with each other.

@Frizzy9000 Жыл бұрын

That's because Colton was fired 😉

@SirNickyT Жыл бұрын

These power line Ethernet connections are SUPER hit or miss. I've tried almost all of them in a variety of scenarios and results will vary drastically on a number of factors. They're not simply plug and play like they make them seem.

@diabloterrorgf Жыл бұрын

It ultimately depends on the house's powerline setup. Older houses in the US without filters on the powerline work best. Newer houses are wired differently and typically have filtering, making it work not so well.

@realzyxtomatic Жыл бұрын

@@diabloterrorgf Agreed. My last two houses have been new construction (built in 2008 and 2020), and any powerline solutions I tried were terrible. Hard to get even a few megabit/s. Might be the arc-fault breakers that new houses often use?

@tactileslut Жыл бұрын

With the diagnostic app and a lot of time I've been happy with the results. Without the app it's more miss than hit.

@eddysan__3549 Жыл бұрын

@@realzyxtomatic new construction 2022 and power line wasn’t very good. Had to eventually just go get a wifi dongle

@parahaps Жыл бұрын

Yeah they are absolutely trash tier in my house. Ridiculous latency and a few tens of Mbps, max.

@cdark6869 Жыл бұрын

I’m loving these non-profit videos giving tech tips to the unemployed. Glad to see Linus is in the giving spirit this holiday season!

@AndreiKucharavy Жыл бұрын

4:50: The whole "Colton takes a second to parse the caulk correctly" should make it to the this year's "LTT best of" compilation.

@igeekone Жыл бұрын

17:05 Remember the Telus gateway was rebooted when Linus unplugged it. Routers are set to automatically change bands, typically happens after a restart. A restart can also help to flush out the cache and that could explain why the latency dropped.

@bruwin Жыл бұрын

The modem was also physically moved from its normal position. Entirely possible that it got a more direct shot

@mattymerr701 Жыл бұрын

WiFi 5 and 6 are also significantly more complicated.

@DderwenWyllt Жыл бұрын

I used to work at a PC retail shop and I would always recommend internet over power line, I was being told by my boss to shill more expensive routers but 99% of the customers were old couples who lived in old stone walled houses, not brick, thick stone. I'd always try to explain to them how to set them up, but would also give them some handwritten instructions to give to their grandchildren if they had any issues, it's surprising how easy they are to set up 90% of the time they would phone back not to report an issue but just to say thank you. I probably would have lost my job if it wasn't for all the old couples phoning in to tell my boss how grateful they were to me.

@Joe-og6br Жыл бұрын

You sir are one of the good ones. 🫡 I hate it when PC stores con old people out of money because they have no idea how computer technology works. 😤

@polaedward4579 7 ай бұрын

We need more people like you in the world

@erik365365365 Жыл бұрын

Colten’s S.O. is wonderful. The whole ltt team and their families deserve a world of blessings.

@ufopsi Жыл бұрын

We need more Colton & wife.

@jblackimages Жыл бұрын

Not going to lie. When Linus mentioned not having the $3 tool for the cable box I was expecting a BRIIIIAN THE ELECTRICIAAAAAN segment.

@KamiThulak Жыл бұрын

Configuring Networks is the closest humanity has come to black magic.

@GoblinatingGoblinator Жыл бұрын

It was my boy Asmongold back at it again in a a LTT video.

@imnota Жыл бұрын

Calling powerline consistent is the funniest thing. I remember those times at 2am trying to not wake up my family by laughing when I was playing with my best friend and all of a sudden he'd get kicked out and I could hear him punch is powerline adapter because it crashed once again. Btw he went through several brands and models, modern house with new wiring too, so no excuse. Meaningwhile I've been using wifi for all these years during which he has been struggling with his adapters, and I've always had faster internet than him (same provider) and more stable than him too, at least until very recently, he just arranged the attic to become his room and in the process has cabled ethernet into the room, no more problems. Quality access point and receiver adapter is key, it can make your experience go from very shitty to seamless, forgetting it's wifi and negating the needs for wiring at all. In my case between cabled and wifi 5AC, I go from 210mbps and 15ms to 185mbps and 21ms, no stability difference, IMHO negligible difference. Edit ; btw my house is big stone house over 100yo, some walls are 70cm thick, and my pc is all the way accross the house. There's no such things as "too far for wifi" or anything like that, just bad AP's and/or implementation.

@KyleDavis328 Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I don't know with what magic Linus finds good poweline adapters, but the times I've tried using them they were absolutely worthless.

@howdlej123 Жыл бұрын

First time I ever used one was when I moved into a house share with uni friends back in 2017 there was zero ethernet, 3 floors, dense walls and floors and WIFI simply wasn't cutting it as most of us were gamers. I tried buying TP-Link powerline adapters and it seemed to work fine for hours on end and then suddenly it would just disconnect one or multiple of the end points but the internet wasn't down and the devices showed full connection and it was an absolute headache that ended up with me installing a huge frikken ethernet up the stairs and sticking another access point up there. However on the flip side. This year i'm living in a new place which has the internet installed upstairs which is actually ideal as its where my computer, but my TV downstairs had terrible signal to router upstairs due to again, thick brick walls and dense wood floor boards, carpet etc. So I tried once again, bought some TP-Link adapters, didn't have much hope however they've run like a dream. I have one in the room with my router and computer that has a single ethernet in port, and one downstairs in my living room that acts as wifi access point with an ethernet out. Speed tests on the wifi downstairs now show 150-180Mbit/s which is close to the rated speed but more than what I need. The only time it's dropped was due to the adapter being on a clogged wifi channel. I simply switched off auto-channel selection and found one myself that wasn't clogged and it went right back to normal, been running smooth for 5 months now. This house is old, and not exactly well built by any modern standard too. Only thing I can imagine that's changed is either the product itself or that I may have been skimping on cheaper models. So my advice would simply be buy a higher end, newer model. If you can afford it. Test it and return if you more a couple of drops in a 30 day return window.

@yummybubbles194 Жыл бұрын

Before we updated other PCs with internal wifi adapters that didn't suck, we used powerline for PCs for a solid almost two years. Occasionally needed to repair like once every few months but they worked fine. Cheap 40 dollar setup too.

@Capiosus Жыл бұрын

@@KyleDavis328 it's about the appliances you use, appliances that use the powerline a lot will cut out basically all connections

@CheapSushi Жыл бұрын

I've been using TP-Link powerline connectors (3 of them) for 6 years and have had no issues in my apartment.

@XKurrA Жыл бұрын

Man I started laughing out loud, I tired streaming over wifi for the first time yesterday, got fed up and ordered a moca adapter, a day later and Linus uploads this, this is amazing Edit: Linus if you see this, thank you, this has helped me to make a more informed decision, I have done more research and found out that MoCA isn't right for me and cancelled my order, I will be using the power line instead.

@engineeringvision9507 Жыл бұрын

Just use cable clips and ethernet cable. You do own a hammer, don't you?

@ruk2023-- Жыл бұрын

How do people manage to get their wifi so bad? I stream everything wirelessly and never have any problems.

@engineeringvision9507 Жыл бұрын

@@ruk2023-- My wifi works fine and my walls are all brick

@littlejackalo5326 Жыл бұрын

@@ruk2023-- I get like 300mbps over WiFi. Plenty.

@ninjason57 Жыл бұрын

@@littlejackalo5326 But if you're paying for 1000 mbps and only using wifi in the home, max 300 mbps, youre losing out on 700 mbps

@personguy3137 Жыл бұрын

14:07 "Wow you can do a lot of things" took me out

@richh650 Жыл бұрын

I love these real-life experiments. Things may not go as planned sometimes but it makes you learn so much more about your setup.

@natanielfarzan Жыл бұрын

Colton and his partner were so chill with Linus drilling a hole through their wall

@hansdietrich83 Жыл бұрын

It's just drywall

@bmxscape Жыл бұрын

they are paid to sit at home and get free upgrades, you expect him to be upset or what?

@motzi6 Жыл бұрын

His wife

@CRneu Жыл бұрын

drywall can be repaired in, no joke, 5 minutes if you have the stuff on hand. Some mesh, some filler, boom you're done and nobody will notice unless they look really closely.

@NithinJune Жыл бұрын

@@bmxscape i think linus made him pay for the adapters

@proesterchen Жыл бұрын

I'm old enough to have seen Linus "fix" other people's WiFi before. Not sure his inlaws are still on speaking terms with him.

@EnderPlays Жыл бұрын

Just reminded me of the video 😂 thanks

@PsRohrbaugh Жыл бұрын

The lake house or the the one in Asia?

@Neojhun Жыл бұрын

@@PsRohrbaugh In Singapore.

@stoddern Жыл бұрын

I remember first finding him while he and Luke first got the house office!

@Adroit1911 Жыл бұрын

This comment needs a link to that video

@carmatic Жыл бұрын

kudos to Linus for showing the most likely scenario for using Wifi alternatives ... Colton seems like exactly the kind of guy you imagine who would need such technologies

@DanceBruce Жыл бұрын

13:39 "i do guilty as charged" that delivery was 10/10

@gustaveolson3005 10 ай бұрын

Actually incredible

@OfficialJNG Жыл бұрын

Former Dish installer here. The reason why Linus said that Dish uses the same frequencies and MoCA for Ethernet may not be compatible with Dish, is because Dish actually uses MoCA for their Hopper/Joey products. Those systems are less like a traditional set top box setup, and more like a media server with a bunch of Nvidia Shields connected to it via MoCA. Hence the conflicting frequencies. It's already basically using MoCA for Ethernet. If you have one of the older set top boxes or DVRs, instead of a hopper, then it's entirely possible that MoCA may work for you

@bilditup1 Жыл бұрын

Certain cablecos also work this way, for example Xfinity. FiOS also uses MoCA, however, unlike Xfinity, whose central set-top box actually has it’s own, separate, 8x4 modem in it that it uses for internet connectivity, and which acts as gateway/router for every other cable box you own using an unconfigurable local network that conflicts with any other one you might want to use over MoCA, Verizon’s boxes get their internet connectivity from the regular gateway, and you can use your own network (including your own router and MoCA bridges) without issue (you if you do use your own gateway, rather than theirs, you do lose some features; workarounds exist but are somewhat complex).

@pyramid011 Жыл бұрын

You use a moca filter where the coax enters your premises to stop your neighbors from getting your moca signals. To get full moca speed to multiple locations, it's possible to use multiple moca adapters, but disconnected from the splitter, so they only use direct runs to a specific room, then connect the now disconnected splitter side of the moca units to a central ethernet switch. This is layout dependent and probably much harder to do if your splitter is outside. Also wont work if you want TV over the same coax. Works great in a setup with a splitter inside when you just want to send data to certain rooms.

@booblla Жыл бұрын

If you use cable internet then MoCA filters also prevent the local cable company from knocking on your door. Because without a filter you create a crap load of noise that affects everyone else on the pillar that your house is connected to and if you don't fix it. The cable company _will_ eventually disconnect you from the network. It takes what feels like forever, but they will eventually do it if you fail to correct the issue (it's classed as interfering with telecommunication infrastructure if you were remotely interested!). You can also use MoCA networking with regular/legacy cable boxes on the same outlet. Nearly all MoCA adapters have a built-in splitter on the receiving end for this purpose. The only time these adapters may not work _with_ cable TV box, is if you have a legacy whole home PVR system, because they (can/do) use the additional frequencies to deliver a cable/PVR recording to the box from the main head unit.

@nicholasreif3443 Жыл бұрын

Mostly this. And in the case of Colton he's on fiber in a Single Family Unit. I wish Linus hadn't glossed over the coax/moca setup for apartments. It's not something that someone should be afraid of having "stolen" by their neighbors.

@RandarTheBarbarian Жыл бұрын

@@booblla that would depend on what signals your cable company is using, MoCA adapters use frequencies above 1002mhz which is not a frequency a lot of cable companies are going to use for transmission because they are with a high degree of likelihood using MoCA for internet connected cable boxes, where as the frequencies your local CMTS (Cable Modem Termination System) are receiving data on are much lower. The issue you're most likely to have with a bunch of MoCA devices connected isn't the MoCA itself causing an issue, since your house as well as other subs should have a point of entry MoCA filter, but rather potentially damaged or not well terminated cables allowing ingress of interference from other sources, typically below 200mhz.

@michaelclifford7311 Жыл бұрын

Couple of MOCA lessons learned the hard way. First, the internet provider's MOCA is not fully formed and can throw the other units off. Secondly, you likely can't permanently turn off that at the router (it will come back on in the middle of the night from the headend). Last, wire the two units together in front of you and set up IP and encryption first, *then* move the units to the intended destination.

@spankbuda5760 Жыл бұрын

The problem is that the white RG6 coaxial cable wasn't checked to see if it was even connected inside the home. Their concerns about the outside cable box was pointless. They needed to find where the main RG6 coax cables were at in Colton's house, use that coax connection at Colton's desk as the main source and disconnect that coax line from the output of the splitter to the input so that it would send the signal properly throughout the home cable connections.

@BassRacerx Жыл бұрын

@@spankbuda5760 yeah step one is to tone out all of the lines and not "hope" they are connected. this can be done with a DSAM , a cable toner, a volt meter (look for 75ohms on the coax) or just tracing the wire with your eyeballs from end to end. After you trace out the wires connect both mocca adapters in the same room to make sure they actually function and is configured. THEN connect the adapter on the outlets and rooms you want. just connecting the equipment and hoping for the best is how you waste a TON of time.

@ckelley87 Жыл бұрын

@@spankbuda5760 Yep, as I watched this I wondered if that was the line from the cable company. They don’t show them verifying that it isn’t, so connecting to it of course wouldn’t work. Ah well.

@vanvino4074 Жыл бұрын

I've personally never had good experience with power line adapters. The source and destination are always on different breakers which caused issues.

@Anticlimacticwhale Жыл бұрын

And i've never had a good experience with MoCa adapters... Ethernet is still the way to go. Wifi as a second choice

@bdziver12 Жыл бұрын

@@Anticlimacticwhale seriously? moca adapters are about as reliable as they come..

@Anticlimacticwhale Жыл бұрын

@@bdziver12 I had 2 pairs of em. No bueno. Could be user error but I had my chance with them. Will stick to what worked for me

@arkamthebard Жыл бұрын

Darn, Moca was the main thing I wanted to see tested. I tried powerline in my apartment and the speeds were just abysmal.

@Rankallthethings Жыл бұрын

I've used MoCA for years and you'll get nearly the same speed on MoCA as ethernet.

@pujinwin Жыл бұрын

i used moca & got nearly 850mbps on speed test

@rico4156 Жыл бұрын

i get 1GB Up/Down with MocA so no need to worry about speed.

@miscl_anon Жыл бұрын

interesting comment i found "Something not mentioned in the video is that if you're doing the powerline solution you should really make sure it works well for you while it's still within the return warranty period. Older buildings, specially condo buildings, have really fucked up wiring and it makes the internet significantly slower and laggy." from "sadman hoque"

@steelfalconx2000 Жыл бұрын

Moca can work great even in apartments if you have a "tree" style wiring architecture, meaning there's a single coax going into your unit and from there there are coaxes going to the living room, bedroom, etc. If all your coaxes go to the building's electrical room you can still do it but it'll be more difficult, you'll need a toner and probe to find all your coax. Don't trust the labels lol.

@koolkid95chrysler53 Жыл бұрын

Great video I love these interactions with the employees, and their families which add an interesting touch. Also, I love the mystical sci-fi music in the background it was actually really nice

@dawsonthepagan2964 Жыл бұрын

I use powerline in my house between my PC and the router (PC upstairs in a spare bedroom and router is in the kitchen) and I love it, it gives me such better ping and I even get better download speeds on it. I also run both ends of the powerline through plug adapters, power strips as some people call them, and it works fine. Though thats mainly because my plugs are stupidly close the skirting boards

@juliwomp Жыл бұрын

dude i’m stupid, i didn’t even know this was a thing. I’ve been running a 50ft ethernet cable upstairs for like a year 😨. Which would you recommend?

@JB-Voices Жыл бұрын

@@juliwomp cable anytime, as an isp technician (12 years experience and counting) I can guarantee you that powerlines will give you trouble, so always go for cable, second option is moca, third option wifi mesh and most certainly the fourth and last option is powerline even if you have a clean electricity signal entering your house (fyi almost non existent) then you still have your electric home devices and cables to deal with

@nabla6100 Жыл бұрын

@@JB-Voices Interesting. Even in my house that has a very suspicious electrical installation we've never had any problems with our powerline connection in nearly a year of use. What sort of problems did you encounter in your work for you to rate powerline so low?

@JB-Voices Жыл бұрын

@@nabla6100 extremely intermittent latency and speed, that is why even wifi mesh is better in most cases concerning your house, funny enough, older electrical installations (with very few circuit breakers) often work the best

@darkvoid5813 Жыл бұрын

@@JB-Voices I had these issues, turns out there were other powerline type adapters connected to the network which I disabled from our network. Sorted out all the issues. Also plug directly in a socket both by Hub and upstairs device.

@StevilKanevil_ Жыл бұрын

This video has brought me such joy as I purchased a house this year with awful wifi coverage(old farm house, thick stone walls and strange layout) but was wired up with coax in most of the rooms! Never knew MoCA existed

@T3CHL3G10N Жыл бұрын

A house like that has good bones; should last you a good long time. But you're right, it's a nightmare for wifi. Get yourself a few MOCA adapters and switches, maybe a cheap AP if you need wifi in one or two rooms, and you can network that baby up right.

@hoofhearted4 Жыл бұрын

4:45 Colton trying to figure out if he wants to get fired again

@Arsonist00 Жыл бұрын

With powerline it is worth noting that you won't get the maximum rated performance unless both are on the same circuit (i.e. not going through the switchboard/breaker box).

@Recessio Жыл бұрын

Which basically defeats the point as most rooms are on different breakers. If it's in the same room (so on the same circuit) just run an ethernet 😂

@jonfromsyracuse Жыл бұрын

also worth noting that in an older house, your performance is likely to be drastically worse as the circuitry used in homes pre 80's was total dog shit compared to today's spec. But, that's an inconvenient piece of information Linus and co left out. They definitely should have had a low voltage tech look at this.

@girlsdrinkfeck Жыл бұрын

@@jonfromsyracuse the fact yank houses dont have proper earth pins like UK does. It works flawless if its a 3 prong socket device

@Fizz-Pop Жыл бұрын

Most important thing is a wife with a sense of humour.

@2nd-place Жыл бұрын

OMG I learned about MoCA in early 2022 and have 2.5Gbps running to my upstairs router. I also have fiber because cable is slower and more expensive at my house. The positioning of my upstairs and downstairs router isn’t ideal for dedicated wireless backhaul so I used MoCA for wired backhaul and spent a little more on the 2.5Gbps to help future proof my current 1Gbps connection. It works amazingly well! I’m so glad that you’re doing a video about this because more people need to know!! It kicks the crap out of wireless backhaul. Fixed all of my issues and is much faster than when wireless was even working at peak with an upstairs test in a better location for signal but not for home coverage.

@kruemelfelix Жыл бұрын

Just a note for the Powerline stuff, do not use it when you have an VDSL (Super-)Vectoring connection for your home internet at home. Especially with Supervectoring those devices will create an insane amount of errors on the DSL line due to basically the same frequency and typically not well isolated power line cables running next to the DSL one. On many cases the DSL modem will either have frequent drop outs due to that or will need to cut down the speed imensly. Powerline manufacturers sometimes offer an compatibility mode for Vectoring in their devices, however this will make the actual Powerline connection a lot slower. All big ISPs in Germany for Supervectoring for example don't promote those devices (but instead Wifi Mesh stuff) and also won't fix the connection line as long as you use them.

@TheWebstaff Жыл бұрын

That's very interesting and answers a long standing question.

@zeero4ever Жыл бұрын

Good piece of advice, as our build site just got the Telekom vectoring crap (max. 175 MBit advertised) instead of proper fiber. Not that I'm planning to use PowerLine in the forseeable future, but it's good to know anyways.

@kbhasi Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Someone I know gets fibre to the node and then VDSL from there to their home, and he uses powerline adaptors plus a Wi-Fi repeater, but I don't think his connection uses vectoring as I remembered he got around 50 Mbps download speeds when I stayed with him for a while a few months back. If he ever were to upgrade his plan to one that uses that, I might warn him if I could remember to do so.

@kruemelfelix Жыл бұрын

@@kbhasi 50Mbit/s is no issue with powerline, the actual interference only starts with a 100Mbit/s Vectoring connection and gets worse and worse the faster it goes.

@reesesman8821 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad to see Linus helping someone in need Even after Colton got fired. Such a great feat of philanthropy

@henriasi Жыл бұрын

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@Draganism Жыл бұрын

I laughed so much through this video. This is like every home handyman thing I've ever done except with less damage. Why are these simple tasks so difficult? Thanks for the great content.

@Dave-nm3xc Жыл бұрын

Interesting. I love the ease of installation for these wifi solutions.

@ballercat Жыл бұрын

I don't usually watch these LTT vids but this one was 10/10. The drilling through drywall bit what sealed it for me

@mkendallpk4321 Жыл бұрын

I am not sure if I watched this for the tech tips or the comedy. Colton and his wife were hilarious!

@BigBahss Жыл бұрын

Colton videos are my lifeblood

@hellpheonix Жыл бұрын

Some fun stuff we did with powerline adapters at work. We were looking for a low cost 2 wire IP solution. NVT 1701 devices were $700 a pair and it was making it financially difficult to convert old analog camera systems over to IP cameras for customers. (This was before analog HD/TVI) We disassembled some $40 100mbps TPlink powerline adapters, removed the 120v transformer, then we got some variable voltage steppers and stepped our 12vdc camera power down to 5vdc. We then powered up the adapter and used the data pins which were no long connected to the 120v transformer board to connect to the coax through a BNC lead that had 2 wires coming off the back (We had tons of these left over from analog camera installs). It worked! We had network connectivity from one apartment building to the other apartment building for the cameras. Sadly the connection would fail at around 4 devices being hooked up, so sadly it didnt pan out as a low cost solution. Fun thing we discovered, we didnt have to hook up the data pins at all. While troubleshooting the network drops, we discovered the powerline devices were talking to each other through the voltage stepper, and through the 12vdc power supply. I had removed the data pins to check something and had not reattached them when the camera came back online and was transmitting to the NVR. After that I suggested we abandon the plan as we simply did not have a strong enough understanding of these devices. We broke the news to the customer we're going to have to go with the much more expensive devices. There is at least one building where our little powerline hack setup has kept a camera connected to the network for over 5 years without issue, so small win I suppose.

@JoeMagician Жыл бұрын

Colton's partner being such a good sport as he screws up everything feels like she long ago learned that being with Colton meant endless cringe, and is just enjoying the chaos he creates.

@jamesparker7939 Жыл бұрын

4:35 "Anything for content" That's right. Keep the dream alive lol

@harram110 Жыл бұрын

I hard wire my playstation using the second method for years and its good. not as good as wired to the modem directly but a huge jump in download speed. 30mps to 120 mps, and it is definitely more stable of a connection. My service provider even offers their own that do work better then aftermarket ones I own. TP link isnt bad though I find.

@StephenOwen Жыл бұрын

This was an excellent explanation of how to use existing wiring in a home. It's a bit of a difference in ways of thinking and I think this video will help the idea to click for most.

@BravoNijN Жыл бұрын

MoCA hands down better than powerline adapter .. if you have coaxial in home

@mrgallbladder Жыл бұрын

Better how?

Жыл бұрын

It would be nice to mention that powerline will always have a higher latency due to how it works: Data packages are only sent when the sine voltage of the mains is close to 0 volts, which means that only a portion of the time the data is transmitted and it is totally related to the grid frequency (50 or 60 Hz)

@zeno4253 Жыл бұрын

Not sure what you mean since coming out of the device the 60Hz will be filtered out

@ChristopherWoods Жыл бұрын

@@zeno4253 my understanding is that the data is superimposed onto the 50 / 60 Hz sine wave (the mains voltage), and PLA data signals are transmitted all the time, except for when the mains voltage's signal level is close to zero (called a 'zero crossing'). This is to avoid potential problems with other electronics which sometimes introduce their own noise into the power signal when it reaches a zero point. So there is windowing of the transmitted data, but only for zero point crossings. The rest of the potential speed loss with PLAs is due to higher amounts of Forward Error Correction (FEC) where good data has checksums calculated and sent alongside it, which the adapters use to reassemble the 'good' data should there be any interference mid-transmission. As your building cabling gets worse, so the level of FEC increases and available speed reduces. This is independent of how the devices filter the data signal (in the MHz) from power signal (50 or 60 Hz depending on country).

@yegfreethinker Жыл бұрын

Bull shit I've used powerline tech before and the latency is equivalent of ethernet in general

@zkipa Жыл бұрын

one thing i've found with my multiple WIFI setups is that the connection occasionally seems to lose consistency over time, at least until I unplug / reset the router setup. I don't know what causes it, but it happens regardless of what router or modem I'm using. If i don't touch it for a week, by the end of the week im getting bad latency spikes all over the place. Once i reset it, it's back to normal again. this NEVER happens when im wired in through ethernet. but i am also in close proximity to a lot of neighbors, so it could be an intermittent issue that has something to do with them also using wifi

@neb6705 Жыл бұрын

You can use an app to see which WiFi channels your neighbours are using and then manually change your router's channel to the one that intercepts with those the least

@aburns70 Жыл бұрын

@@neb6705 do you have a name for that app? I live in a townhome community and it seems like between the hours of 4pm-10pm my internet is terrible for gaming, and I assume it’s because everyone is home from work.

@J1gys Жыл бұрын

I've been using my powerline ethernet adapter for 2 years now and it is still working as intended! I got the cheapest one I could find so I'm limited to 100mbps but I'd rather have lower speeds and consistent connection rather than my dodgy wifi.

@GothicDragonX Жыл бұрын

Since I bought a Netgear Orbi mesh system in 2017, I haven't had any Wi-Fi issues. Using ethernet between the main station and satellite, having a solid connection when connected wired for the TV Media console and my main PC for flawless streaming and Wi-Fi connection across all devices and locations within and around the home is consistent. Also, I love that I can go anywhere in the house and the backyard without getting a signal drop or connecting to another connection point in the middle of a stream.

@LinkWulluf Жыл бұрын

Comcast uses moca to communicate to the other cable boxes. It's how one of the node boxes can tell the main DVR to record. Moca is also used for a lot of their diagnostic tools as well.

@LinkWulluf Жыл бұрын

If you have working cable TV or Internet in your home that doesn't mean that all of the cable outlets are connected to each other. Certain cable companies or satellite providers use different cable splitters that operate between different frequencies. Sometimes when you switch service in a new cable technician comes in they need to switch out those splitters and will only hook up the bare minimum to the rooms that you're requesting service in. There are "cheap" (relatively speaking) testers that can tell you of specific outlets are connected to each other. It's one of those tools where you're the guy who owns it and all of your friends borrow it once in a blue moon...

@LinkWulluf Жыл бұрын

Okay and another one. If you call your ISP complaining about having internet based issues, but choose not to disclose that you're using either one of these methods... You're a jerk. You're not plugged in using ethernet don't answer that you are. You have a bunch of extra Bologna Sandwich between your device and that modem then just an Ethernet.

@Snyd3rs Жыл бұрын

Love it when Colton makes it on camera!

@kidwajagstang Жыл бұрын

Got Moca set up in my room. I was originally thinking of having my own cable modem installed in my room so I could get a direct ethernet connection, but saw that the latest Moca speeds were very impressive and decided to give it a try, especially since it was very reasonable in price. It’s been amazing since installing it. I got an adapter with 2 ethernet ports. I hooked up a WiFi 6 router on one port and use the other port for various devices, depending on what I need the speed. Sometimes it plugs directly into my laptop, other times it’s into my PS4 or even my Xbox 360.

@AaronShenghao Жыл бұрын

Power line can have problem in EU house with whole house protection, especially if the two power-line routers are on different breakers. (Most US house only have protection in bathroom, so main breaker won’t interfere with power-line). Same model/ series adapter/router is important for power-line MoCA and mesh Wi-Fi

@chevystraightpipe1762 Жыл бұрын

When Linus unplugged the router and plugged it back it, could that have helped with the ping spikes and why we didn't see it that much at the end of the video versus if the router ran for days on hand you would notice more spikes?

@thetechnoguy2010 Жыл бұрын

You are on to something. I recommend that people put the crap "gateways" the cable companies give you on a timer to restart like every Sunday night or every night. Helps a ton! Or just buy good equipment and hardwire EVERYWHERE possible!

@freedustin Жыл бұрын

yip...my router auto reboots every few days to prevent this...

@Ruslan-S Жыл бұрын

If only people knew about this issue for years and built equipment that can do this automatically. Seriously, I haven't been able to find a router that doesn't require a human operator to reboot it from time to time.

@assetaden6662 Жыл бұрын

@@thetechnoguy2010 Yeah, but sometimes ISP's do not allow to use any other routers like mine does (its also the only ISP in my building so I cant just change it lmao). I have a HSGQ-G111W router, which does not have that kind of functionality and its just sad.

@m4rk3J Жыл бұрын

@@Ruslan-S MikroTik? 300+ days uptime with no problems, then I upgraded RouterOS.

@kbaker96 Жыл бұрын

Recently discovered the poweline adapters and it has changed so much. My house was built in the 1920s and wifi doesn't travel well . I don't get the full speed with power line but it's still plenty fast and haven't had any issues yet.

@TheUballe Жыл бұрын

I've had a pretty good experience with moca adaptwr At 5,000 Square feet, my home is on the larger side, and has always been difficult to cover with wireless access. I've tried everything from wireless repeaters, powering adapters, and mesh networking. When I had cable, I found moca adapters to be the best alternative to running CAT-6. Once I switched over to Google Fiber, I went with a wireless mesh, which took 5 access points to cover. This video has inspired me to find out how I can put those moca adapters back into use.

@tsm1871 Жыл бұрын

Finally a good video that isn't of a random PC build. Please make more videos in Linus' and staffs homes

@phirebird27 Жыл бұрын

I love this more relaxed format. Where the troubleshooting and planning are kept in. Its insightful and very entertaining

@Warlock_UK Жыл бұрын

Good timing to see MoCA; I've been using powerline in my house in the UK for ages and I always get kinda crummy rates (150-300mbps). Since getting Gigabit broadband I've been wanting to upgrade - I was considering using the TV Antenna cables that my house had (which aren't very common here) to pull network cables up to the attic and set up LAN... but then I discovered MoCA. I plugged one adapter in next to my router into a TV Antenna connector, and another into the TV Antenna connector in my home office room. Boom, 2.5Gbps in the house and a full 1Gbps internet. Holy crap, game changer. Now I just need a second 2.5Gbps network switch, but they're still very expensive. In the UK satellite TV uses the same frequencies as MoCA but Digital Freeview is safe and sound without any clash. You could put a PoE filter on the end to play it safe, but I just turned Encryption on instead.

@pacifistart 8 ай бұрын

I love moca in my home networking setup. Very happy Linus brought up this type of tech😊

@ryanhamstra49 Жыл бұрын

To clarify power line works between the same breaker box, not the same breaker. It can be different breakers. Also, powerline adapters don’t work through a power strip

@isabellavision Жыл бұрын

It worked on a power strip in this video, so...

@ryanhamstra49 Жыл бұрын

@@isabellavision I guess I should say, surge protector. Power strips are ok unless they are surge protectors

@Oddlot0930 Жыл бұрын

Fun fact, if you have 2 Xfinity internet connections in a house going to different modems, one will inevitably try to take over the other over MoCA. I had a friend what couldn't figure out internet issues. We couldn't really access the other modem, but could disable MoCA on his. It would work for a bit, then for some reason that setting would reset and we'd be back to the same problem. Comcast was of course insistent that there was no problem.

@WartimeFriction Жыл бұрын

Comcast is the Chinese Government of ISPs

@ashdavis4845 Жыл бұрын

Former Xfinity employee - This is a fail on whatever technician did that install - you're supposed to install MoCA filters to prevent this. Many techs don't know how to do a lot of these aspects of the job now however, which i really can't fault them for because training sucks & they really don't get paid much for their "expertise"

@ErrorNotFound40425 Жыл бұрын

That's because they have to be on separate networks. It's an easy fix, just put a moca reflector/filter on the back of one or both.

@CaveMonkey72 Жыл бұрын

@@ashdavis4845 A lot of techs just put the PoE filter on the ground block and dont think about how MoCA actually works.... Ive had to explain too many times why you cant have an XiD on a 2way before a 4port MoCA power amp

@FCNos Жыл бұрын

Also log into the gateway and turn moca off if its not being used Xfinity has had that since it was introduced

@ScottWallace5 Жыл бұрын

Tried powerline at my place and speeds were okay, then switched to MoCa and it's been incredible! Great tips

@cesarmts Жыл бұрын

I like to see this kind of videos in which everything go wrong because that's exactly the experience I have in my house when I try to do anything.

@gamecube28 Жыл бұрын

Good luck linus! But you don’t know where I live!

@seshpenguin Жыл бұрын

MoCA is great if your wiring makes sense. In my house, each Coax outlet from the rooms comes as a separate cable to the basement, which makes it super easy to plug them into a splitter and into a single MoCA adapter and into my router. (Also I don't need to worry about encryption, since none of the wiring is connected to the outside connection). Coax is designed for high bandwidth RF communications after all (it's a shielded cable), so it works really well.

@thelunatick1993 Жыл бұрын

Think this is the issue of their failure. Doubt this part of the project had been planned but assumed.

@kgury Жыл бұрын

Same.

@drsoils Жыл бұрын

just ordered some powerline adapters! i was looking for a fix without running ethernet. thanks LTT

@superertert Жыл бұрын

Yeey It is always nice to see Colton.

@AikaCraftyCat Жыл бұрын

You don't really need the encryption in most cases, particularly a house. There are moca filters you can install on the external facing side that block that frequency from entering or leaving the premises. It's often preinstalled by your cable provider.

@NorthernScrub Жыл бұрын

Note that you can't run these if you share a common ground or a common phase. Some powerline kits will use the ground terminal to connect to each other, others will use one of the phases. If you're in a terraced property or a flat (apartment), chances are you have either a shared ground, or a shared phase income. That means if someone else has a powerline kit, their kit may interfere with yours and vice versa. These days, they shouldn't connect you to them or them to you, but all the same - these powerline kits are only suitable for houses, or flats/apartments with definitively separate grid connections.

@Ellipsis115 Жыл бұрын

Glad to see even the pros stuggle as much or more than I do, luckily I watched a tech quikie video back in the day and just used powerline from the start.

@jessebueckert5652 Жыл бұрын

This video is seriously gonna change my life. My room is on the other side of my house from my router with already crap satellite wifi. Squeezing that extra connection speed and consistency is gonna change so much. Thank you sir✌️

@alvallac2171 Жыл бұрын

Another thing that could help your situation is to reduce your bufferbloat, by shaping your router's WAN traffic to keep latency consistent under load. You can do it by installing OpenWrt firmware on your router and then using SQM. You basically do a speed test when there's no other traffic on your network, and then set SQM to 85-95% of that result. Because you use satellite Internet, you're definitely going to want use something like cake-autorate from the OpenWrt forums. It makes SQM work better for more variable Internet connection types like wireless, DOCSIS, or VPN.

@jessebueckert5652 Жыл бұрын

@@alvallac2171 Hey thanks for the information. Never would've thought about that. However I don't need much more performance out my Wi-Fi that I now get with the powerline. Plus I'm not very Tech savy, and diving into custom firmware for routers would probably just confuse the hell out of me. You are an absolute champ for replying though. Maybe someday I'll find this more useful than now ;)

@q1joe Жыл бұрын

Linus needs to hire Colton's partner, she's killing it in this video.

@idzanmarkoprivate Жыл бұрын

You mean Colton's wife? She was helping on first WiFi video few years back to organize LTX for that year. And yes, it was different layout in house then, still remember vividly good old displays and scene when Colton lost password for WiFi of ISP provided router.

@sorenvitarelli Жыл бұрын

Finally a video about MOCA adapters! They should be built into every coax modem by default.

@agalerex Жыл бұрын

Some are! For some reason, though, some internet providers lie about their cable/modems not having it.

@sorenvitarelli Жыл бұрын

@@agalerex Cox did that to me. I had to tinker around in the modem to get it activated, but then it worked perfectly.

@logangreif8549 Жыл бұрын

I've been using MoCA in my house for a few years now, and it's been rock solid. For systems that don't offer great security settings, there exist passive MoCA filters that you can install at the main coax into your home to stop your MoCA network from being accessible at the street or to other units in an apartment building. Even if you have MoCA security set up, it's not a bad idea to add one of the filters, it can also help stop interference from other MoCA users that may be in a shared building.

@Koutousov Жыл бұрын

My MoCA adapter came with the filter in the box and good instruction on how to keep your setup secure.

@cwfeldmann Жыл бұрын

Been using MoCA at my church to upgrade our Security Cameras. Even PoE can be supported and has saved me tons of time by avoiding pulling cables through the ceiling of an old building.

@zaeem9601 Жыл бұрын

I was lucky that when I moved into a place, they had modem ports (RJ11) running all over the house. It turned out, there was CAT5e cabling behind all of it so I was able to simply convert them to RJ45 and enjoy LAN in every room.

@chad_levy Жыл бұрын

The deciding factor on my current apartment was the fact that it has RJ45 ports everywhere and a decent network cabinet in the closet.

@CreativityNull Жыл бұрын

Lucky. I don't get that here :( in my apartment I have cat6 I cut up and am holding up with 3M command hooks and tape along the hallway into the bedrooms lol.

@Starach Жыл бұрын

The previous owner (and builder) of my house ran Coax to every single room. I have one TV so 90% of these cables went unused and I bemoaned that he hadn’t installed Ethernet instead. Now it looks like I’ll be able to take advantage of the cabling!

@kaitlynweeks4143 Жыл бұрын

Watching this video I thought of a cool spinoff series: going to different LTT staff member's houses and fixing one of their tech housing issues. Gives insight on many different topics but we also get to meet more of the members like we do with the Intel $5000 upgrade series.

@TekuJames Жыл бұрын

MoCA was a life saver for me. I absolutely love having my stuff wired up now!

@360ModsandHacks Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this video Linus Tech Tips. I absolutely love the networking videos and enjoy when you do them. Keep up the good work

@RingoFreakingStarr Жыл бұрын

I've tried to use powerline in the past in order to try to "hard wire" connect my asus routers for ai mesh but it is, as the video showed, extremely hit or miss. In my brand new constructed home, with everything going to one breaker box, it was extremely finicky depending on which outlets you plug the adapters in. Also as the video showcased, my ping was also "on average" worse than utilizing wifi but yes wifi is prone to very big ping spikes and that's a huge no no for ai mesh setups. Don't rely on a powerline solution unless it is literally the last available option. I ended up routing a 100ft CAT 6 cable up from the basement along the baseboards as cleanly as I could with like 80 little bracket things to neatly push the flat white wire up against the white wall.

@jorrit_o Жыл бұрын

A brand new house without Ethernet? What went wrong there? I think I've never seen any house built after 2005 without Ethernet cables😅 But yeah I agree... Powerline is only a solution if there's no way you could pull cables. I only had bad experiences with them.

@pit32 Жыл бұрын

@@jorrit_o builders are cheap. My 2016 house doesn't have Ethernet, only cable.

@keeperofthegood Жыл бұрын

Powerline option lasted as long as it took us to go buy a 50 foot spool and run the wire directly.

@christinekwasnicki4238 Жыл бұрын

If you're handy at all try pulling the base board off. There is usually a small gap between the floor and the bottom of the drywall; big enough for an ethernet cable. Can get things all nice and hidden.

@kerzytibok3211 Жыл бұрын

I would probably sue the contractor if it's a new home and it's not wired with Cat-6 ethernet to every room

@limen5442 Жыл бұрын

I use MoCa. 4,000 sqft house, 2 WFH couple with 3 kids homeschooling and inlaws at home as well. Total game-changer.

@zwojack7285 Жыл бұрын

lamo what? homeschooling?

@limen5442 Жыл бұрын

@@zwojack7285 yeah. School, but at home. Allows us to be flexible. They do some live classes online and we cover content as well. Our oldest got a full ride at 16 and graduated at 18 with a Math degree. Currently he's 20 in his comp Sci PhD program.

@Exorion1er Жыл бұрын

That's a huge house.

@limen5442 Жыл бұрын

@@Exorion1er We are 7 people (8, but eldest moved out), and multi-generational household. It's what's afforded us this opportunity.

@tyrdchaos Жыл бұрын

I've been using MoCA adapter for 2 years. In fact, I've had the exact models used in the video. I have 3 deployed. One thing I would recommend is people add a MoCA filter to the coax that enters the residence (or at the junction in an apartment). The MoCA network can be captured by other MoCA devices if the frequencies aren't filtered out.

@JoaoViterbo Жыл бұрын

My house had coax runs to almost every room that went back to a central box in the wall. Instead of using moca i just decided to replace the coax with cat 6 and put a small network switch in the box in the wall. For me its been a great solution the cable replacement was easy and a cool diy quarantine project truly recomend it for the best internet possible

@mrlightwriter 7 ай бұрын

How did you replace coax with cat 6? Is it possible to replace coax with cat without breaking the walls?