Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody No.2 with Rachmaninoff's Cadenza. Played by Sergei Glavatskih.
Пікірлер: 92
@AshishXiangyiKumar4 жыл бұрын
People criticising the cadenza for not "fitting in" baffle me. You've just had 6 minutes of pure I-V leading up to the cadenza -- I'm frankly dying by that point for some harmonic colour, and Rachmaninoff comments on the motifs of rhapsody really cleverly (& with a kind of breezy cynicism) while throwing around some gorgeous chords. Fantastic stuff.
@GUILLOM4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree, the same thing happens with Hamelin's cadenza
@gergelykiss4 жыл бұрын
It's a matter of taste and personal preference. I don't believe for a second that you are actually baffled by the fact that people like different things. :) I can understand if someone finds the juxtaposition of the harmonic language of a folkish 1840s piece and that of Sergei's 1920s magic jarring, and at the same time it is absolutely riveting to have a chance to hear Rachmaninov's response to Liszt's invitation for a cadenza.
@Hunter-cs3hq4 жыл бұрын
Loopp
@magic222222222223 жыл бұрын
@@gergelykiss I don't think that he was baffled by people who thought that the cadenza did not "fit in," but rather by their reasoning as to why.
@ammyvl13 жыл бұрын
maybe they think it doesn't fit in *because* it strays from the original harmonic ideas (i think that's the right word). Of course I like it, but it's something to at least consider.
@sebastianboeddinghaus35053 жыл бұрын
"The perfect music collab doesn't exi-"
@kliop000233 жыл бұрын
*crossover perhaps a century*
@jonaskatona71363 жыл бұрын
I don't see why it's so necessary that the cadenza matches the rest of the piece. A cadenza is an extension and realization of the pianist's own originality, technique, and style. Who says that it needs to sound just like Liszt? Rachmaninoff was transporting us to his own world and giving his own take on themes and motifs from the rest of the piece. I don't see why that's a problem, and honestly, it sounds brilliant, almost as if the passage came straight from his Etude-Tableaux or something.
@jasonmaslowski70882 жыл бұрын
How does it not match the piece? Even I as an 8yr old boy could tell the cadenza was a clever addition by another composer who wished to embellish if you will and admire this work in their own way before ending. And if anyone else has some dumb conceded comment about a cadenza, I would bet every last layer of the skin off my ass on the coldest day ever that Liszt would absolutely love it. He himself wasn't unknown to transcribe and paraphrase others' works-------now was he?
Magnificent cadenza, 8:30. Go Rach!! Never heard or heard of this!
@pokemil57057 жыл бұрын
Rachmaninoff please, stahp, Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 is already very difficult!
@jadams18346 жыл бұрын
Cadenza is fantastique, like the rhapsody went into a fever-dream, distorting through keys & tempos. The rendering is awesome
@OktoberStorm9 жыл бұрын
This must have brought down the house the first time people heard this.
@luciferscatmilk6 жыл бұрын
Jørgen Oktober Storm Nestande Thyrum REMIX!
@josephkolecki67888 жыл бұрын
The distortions in melody and harmony along with the opening glissandos almost make it appear that Rachmaninov wrote this cadenza as a humorous commentary on Liszt's Rhapsody. Rachmaninov plays the remainder of the piece with apparent "ease", as only Rachmaninov could. Then comes this rather convoluted cadenza...intriguing and worth listening to over and over, but "jarring", as another commentator writes. Any thought on why Rachmaninov wrote in such a manner?
@SpaghettiToaster6 жыл бұрын
Because he could? I'm sure it was much fun!
@christianvennemann90082 жыл бұрын
9:57 I love how Rachmaninoff decided to add a little jazz here
@cubimango88172 жыл бұрын
---------------------------------- *Here all parts of the hungarian rhapsody no 2:* ---------------------------------- Opening: 0:00 Lassan: 0:31 Friska: 4:22 Rachmaninoff's Cadenza: 8:28 Finale: 10:35 ---------------------------------- *Perfect performance!* ----------------------------------
@DanielMartinez-nw1pn4 жыл бұрын
The cadenza sounds like a drunk person trying to play the piece, really fun 😁
@casual_human4 жыл бұрын
I read this and listened to it again, it really is. 🤪🤪🤪
@DanielMartinez-nw1pn4 жыл бұрын
@@casual_human 😂😂
@dawlims13344 жыл бұрын
9:47 more like a jazzy style but i love it
@empireentertainmentevents1353 Жыл бұрын
Superb work by the great Rach!!
@christopherparker62322 жыл бұрын
I am a great Rachmaninoff fan. Indeed, the reason I am a music teacher can be partly attributed to the influence he had on my musical mind as I was learning my craft and growing up. The cadenza tells you much more about Rachmaninoff than Liszt, as many have said. Yes, perhaps it is 'jarring' as some have said, because it doesn't sound like Liszt's harmonies (it is of the twentieth century rather than the nineteenth), nor Liszt's style of piano writing. Rachmaninoff is being the composer here rather than trying to replicate Liszt's idiomatic musical language. As a composer himself, I think he is entitled to put his own spin on it. I imagine he wrote it for himself to play as a concert pianist to show off his own technique, much as Liszt's music is about his own tremendous command of the instrument. Were Liszt's huge number of transcriptions idiomatic of the composers whose music he arranged and transcribed? I don't think so! Rachmaninoff probably never imagined that 100 years later we would be having this debate. Authenticity in music was not a big thing in Rachmaninoff's day: it is a relatively recent phenomenon. Let's not judge him by our current standards.
@user-gs6dv3ne2o11 ай бұрын
100%. Хоть кто-то понимает,что и о чём пишет!
@user-ru8vy1uz7c3 жыл бұрын
Bravo brilliance music grandiose virtuoso
@LuizBHMG10 жыл бұрын
Fantástico! Trabalho mútuo de dois gênios!!
@alexkoh16735 жыл бұрын
Why the criticism of the cadenza? The critics are unlikely to be able to play it. The performance is the main surprise and to which attention should be paid. A virtuoso pianist new to me with an amazing and outstanding technique. How does Russia breed these pianists? Can anybody confirm whether there were any edits - the tempos are so fast , it is difficult to imagine no errors. My personal view has always been that whilst many pianists can get their fingers around the notes of the Rhapsodies, only a few very top virtuosi such as MAH, Horowitz, Bermann etc can reveal the true original sound or intentions of Liszt. This is why I believe few virtuoso pianists will tackle them in concert as their personal shortcomings will be open for all to see. My point is perhaps clearer if one listens to the Horowitz arrangement or the performance of Cziffra or Rachmaninov - luckily all are available on KZfaq. What a wonderful channel this is.
@rosiefay72834 жыл бұрын
Why the criticism of the other commenters? They have opinions different from yours, that's all. And being able to play a piece is certainly not a precondition for being allowed to comment on a performance of it. And you can't play it either, so why do you impose rules on others that you don't impose on yourself?
@napoleonsukk77704 жыл бұрын
Those glissandos tho
@ChristianJiang10 жыл бұрын
Wow
@TransTaey3 жыл бұрын
I have always interpreted Rachmaninoff as "this music should be making you _think_ about the material". and think that cadenza thoroughly did I
@fumikotsukumi0174 жыл бұрын
Rachmaninoff please, this piece is already technically difficult!
@roryreviewer65989 жыл бұрын
I like the cadenza on its own, but it's quite jarring in the context of the piece. Rachmaninoff made absolutely no attempt to write this in the style of Liszt (which is what you would traditionally do if you are writing a cadenza meant to be performed within a piece of music), it's Rachmaninoff through and through, sounds like his late style too, which makes it even more jarring. But I still enjoyed hearing it.
@kevin.afton_8 жыл бұрын
+Rory reviewer Why should it be in the style of Liszt? A cadenza means freely as you feel it.
@christianvennemann90085 жыл бұрын
@@kevin.afton_ Agreed. Liszt, when he taught his students, famously didn't want carbon copies of himself. He stressed individuality (in terms of style) with his students.
@S.Lijmerd5 жыл бұрын
What? Traditionally that is absolutely not what a Cadenza is. A cadenza is traditionally not even written out. It is meant to be improvised. The greatest Cadenzas have an unique style, like Beethoven's and Alkan's Cadenzas for Mozart's Concertos. Frankly I don't even get why you would use traditionally, cadenzas are very rarely written down. I find it hard to believe you'd have heard some of the greatest pianist of the 19th century perform cadenzas in the traditional way. Those that are written down are totally not what you describe.
@john32604 жыл бұрын
@@S.Lijmerd Well, it does say cadenza ad lib. but I agree it should be improvised but not necessarily in the style of Liszt because of the ad lib.
@divisix0244 жыл бұрын
@@john3260 I think ad lib (short for ad libitum) just means the performer is free to omit the cadenza
@Putsmeiser9 жыл бұрын
Could Somebody write a midi for this? Or send me the sheet music, cant transcribe it through the video, would be super helpful!
@Putsmeiser9 жыл бұрын
***** By chance, do you know what the dashed line between bars does? The fourth measure at 8:31
@mikekarren50108 жыл бұрын
LOL, in the tradition of cadenz(i) the artist is to "improvise" AND show off...therefore I hardly think you can expect Listzian music from Rachaminoff or any other performer during a cadenza. The Rachmaninoff at least kept the melody lines very well, not so with Hamelin...if you find this "jarring", try Marc Andre Hamelin's cadenza! Find it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLSGqdt-mtzLZZc.html
@JramLisztfan Жыл бұрын
9:57 buildup is fantastic
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji2 жыл бұрын
Cadenza at 8:28
@Wuozlinga4 жыл бұрын
This is like the romantic version of a polytonal jazz remix of a pop song lol
@milkor_3 жыл бұрын
4:49
@reetoy27932 жыл бұрын
00:30 01:20 04:49 06:32 10:40
@jimmylecomte15794 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain what is a cadenza?
@chrisy3674 жыл бұрын
It's usually an improvised part added to a piece of music using a certain motif. That's basically as simple as it can get
@davidbnpl8 жыл бұрын
I personally like Rachmaninoff much more than Liszt but this cadenza just doesn't fit to this Rhapsody's style. It sounds like another, not connected piece inside the other one :(
@nahor886 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Rachmaninoff was just showing his humorous side. The original piece itself is kinda goofy when compared to a lot of what written during that era (especially the fast section), Sergei just took things a step further. He was also known for having enormous hands similar to Liszt.
@christianvennemann90085 жыл бұрын
While I see what you mean, an unwritten cadenza means that you play freely as you see fit. Also, Liszt (when teaching his students) famously didn't want carbon copies of himself. He stressed individuality, in terms of style, to his students.
@andrearossi14614 жыл бұрын
Me neither, for me the author of the best cadenza is Hamelin
@arno_grnfld4552 жыл бұрын
Cadenza means free style and it doesn't at all need to fit in the piece. Cadenza is a extension of another composer bringing in his own style into the theme.
@dAvrilthebear6 жыл бұрын
very very interesting piece by Rachmaninov! Yes, it's not Liszt, it's a modern piece.
@lr159410 жыл бұрын
They're not wrong...
@punkwarlord2 жыл бұрын
Who framed Roger Rabbit.
@YusufAbdullahZamora6 жыл бұрын
comedy right here!
@Tuco-js Жыл бұрын
This cadenza gives me anxiety Yep, it's from Rachmaninoff
@timjbbc4 жыл бұрын
What an adsolute mad lad
@EK-gr9gd3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I would like what Beethoven would had made of it.
@franzliszt76825 жыл бұрын
This cadenza is still weak compared to Hamelin's. A lot more pleasant to listen to though.
@ericlego3213 жыл бұрын
Try cateen's cadenza! He did better than hamelin imo
@kohs.38763 жыл бұрын
@@ericlego321 His Cadenza was beyond epic
@none50203 жыл бұрын
True but you must consider that this was improvised unlike Hamelins which was written beforehand.
@LisztEtude62 жыл бұрын
@@kohs.3876 Cateen's was just way too good and it really blended with the piece unlike Rach's cadenza.
@elnagudelsaya10 жыл бұрын
There is 2 wrong notes ! jajajaja not is important !
@mochdrew33644 жыл бұрын
You mean the D sharp?..
@MrNeilsy9 жыл бұрын
Great recording but I don't care for the cadenza Rachmaninoff incorporated. Just my opinion. It doesn't fall in line with the style of Liszt. Imagination is vast in the human mind. I think he could have written something in the style of Liszt yet still his own.
@randyclar7478 жыл бұрын
Liszt did fine on his own without Rachmanioffs addition.