They cut a beautiful line from the manga. "Stealing the power of God doesn't make you God... It just makes you a cunning thief".
@shirleyong48463 жыл бұрын
huh?!!?!???!
@AlwaysHungry93 жыл бұрын
@@shirleyong4846 OMG????!!!????
@hcook10233 жыл бұрын
Why would they cut that line that goes great with the context and theme
@Mr.Lubbox-Lobsterlegz13 жыл бұрын
Oh brother...
@hcook10233 жыл бұрын
@ttt ttt he couldn't do anything original for himself and instead of trying to become a perfect being on his own, he was basically immortal before killing Xerxes and a willing helper, he craved the power and knowledge of Truth
@nouvelle1475 жыл бұрын
Sad part is, he actually recieves what he wants, Infinite Knowledge but he loses his individuality so it doesn't matter in the end.
@alperonce4 жыл бұрын
Türk kardeşim selamlar 👍
@tinycnyc4 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when you're nice and you become apart of the Abomination and then you lose your individuality. The truth is I was supposed to die but human say I was supposed to live cuz that's selfish
@jktacoim55064 жыл бұрын
@Fernando Alvarado not really. why should anyone feel the need to live...who is to say they were ment to live a long life? at the end of the day everyone has a journey and wether it ends as a long or short one isnt up for anyone but that person
@WorldKeepsSpinnin4 жыл бұрын
am i the only one who doesn't understand what raezore was trying to say? What he said doesnt even seem suicidal lol.
@AlexAnastaso4 жыл бұрын
The truth is that the Homonclus is not a monster, homonclus saw with his eyes the structure of authority, the king abuses his father and the father abuses his kid, the kid started to hate his father and hated everything that his father reprezents, even his father's free time activicies ,that nothing had to do with abuse Homonclus because of his life learnt how to expose the structures of authority, without bellonging to a team, just by let the sinners loose and then expose them later , when you expose the sinners to other sinners chaos comes, but you need to have everything prepared, because later the scums will attack you Ofc normal people are cospicary-theorists sometimes and present the dwarf in the jar it as a Machiavelic scum, when in reality his father and his kids that belong to the national army are the real mosters that killing people. I like this finction better because I cant accept that people who searching for knowledge are evil. Evil are the people that talking about mad scientists and bullshits
@HyperKnight1000 Жыл бұрын
sad thing is, he NEVER left the flask. With the freedom he obtained, he could have traveled the world, meet the people, learn from the experience, let his emotions run. Instead, he stayed as small being in the bigger flask, his own little world.
@lisboah Жыл бұрын
The Dwarf never believed in himself, so he pretty much stole everything from others. This is also connected to one of his sins, Sloth. Rather than explore his new freedom and grow as an individual, he simply stayed the same while trying to consume God in order to become perfect. It's like taking a single large step instead of several small steps in order to achieve a goal.
@Benderofdemise Жыл бұрын
Best philosophy i read in the comments.
@anthonyewell3470 Жыл бұрын
This is kinda what truth was saying. He didn't grow from being out in the world. And even better, the gate of truth holds all the knowledge and power that he's looking for. From his failure to understand the oppurtunity that he had, to his failure to understand what he wanted, he foolishly didn't accept the answer that should have become clear to him long ago simply because he never believed in himself
@OmegaGamer04 Жыл бұрын
Reason why his gate is empty
@anxiousearth6807 ай бұрын
@@lisboahYou could also view it as a survival mechanism. As a dwarf, to attain freedom, he had to manipulate and kill his creators. He had to, as they would never recognise his freedom or allow him to overpower them. The only alternative was to take it by force. But once free, he never outgrew his mentality while in a cage. He continued to maliciously use other people to be free to do what he wants. His mind was still caged. He thinks people can only help him if he uses them. He has no sense of community as everyone else was the enemy. And the only way to guarantee his freedom is to be one with absolute power and impose his will on others.
@hfar_in_the_sky2 жыл бұрын
One thing that I love about the Japanese version that was missing in the English dub was how Truth not only has the same appearance as whoever perceives them, but also the same voice. It really adds to that otherworldly feeling of Truth, especially when they talk with that unique cadence and reverb. It's a voice familiar, yet totally different. And the fact they're almost always mocking whomever has stepped into their domain makes the fact that they're doing it in your own voice sting all the more.
@saturncrush2 жыл бұрын
What anime is this? I have never seen these characters before.
@hfar_in_the_sky2 жыл бұрын
@@saturncrush Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
@saturncrush2 жыл бұрын
@@hfar_in_the_sky oh snap!!! Cool.
@sprawlz64662 жыл бұрын
@@saturncrush Fullmetal Alchemist is like the best shonen anime of all time. I would highly recommend it if you haven't seen it
@Hapasan8082 жыл бұрын
The voice is also to show what they perceive as god is also a part of themselves. Basically the "Ichi wa zen, zen wa ichi" (One is all, All is one) is as universal as equivalent exchange. I always felt this was the intention, and I remember reading and interview in which Hiromu Arakawa confirmed this, saying that this representation of god or truth can be seen as an antithesis to the person who enters. Also the god/truth being says this when entering e.g. "I am all, I am one, I'm also you"
@danialhaziq6605 жыл бұрын
The dwarf gate of truth is plain empty . Hundreds years living on earth hasnt taught him one thing
@-toxicus-85825 жыл бұрын
Because you can only learn the truth outside of the physical world something the dwarf was scared to access
@classyfied4 жыл бұрын
Good catch. I didn't notice!
@joanstanley53664 жыл бұрын
Taught*
4 жыл бұрын
It's because he got rid of the seven desires, without desire and fear, we learn nothing.
@JMStheKing4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he did everything using the knowledge he was born with from the eye of god
@tbw9803718 жыл бұрын
"He that makes himself an angel makes himself a beast." - Blaise Pascal
@bugaboo28605 жыл бұрын
Ben gay
@yaz29285 жыл бұрын
@@bugaboo2860 ur mom
@bugaboo28605 жыл бұрын
@@yaz2928 :(
@cripplinganxiety19415 жыл бұрын
......????
@christopherlee90265 жыл бұрын
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." - Samuel Johnson
@alucardbloodyvampire60663 жыл бұрын
I like how he is a Biblical Satan in everything but name, also without cliche appearance
@alexadler53213 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@mattsepan62743 жыл бұрын
Hes also technically Biblical God too, which is weird to think about, that he's both in one.
@alexadler53213 жыл бұрын
@@mattsepan6274 not really, If you're talking about the little one (the homunculus). But If your talking about the "truth", He is probably the biblical God (Adonai).
@fn_flashy91013 жыл бұрын
@@adriangudino3412 apparently Satan has no form, he simply takes on the appearance of what someone finds most attractive
@LordTyph3 жыл бұрын
Truth or the Dwarf in the Flask?
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache3 жыл бұрын
Dwarf: What should I have done?! Truth: Imma pretend like I didn't hear that
@marceldawn0_o3 жыл бұрын
Rip
@roboorc12343 жыл бұрын
I think he knows the answer, but he just didn't do any and that is why he leaves no marks on his door, nor his life
@mr.therapist35473 жыл бұрын
hey its you
@dinogamer65083 жыл бұрын
are you the anime version of Christopher Moon?
@justinb.57902 жыл бұрын
STOP COMMENTING AND GTFO FROM KZfaq!!!
@NoxAtlas4 жыл бұрын
It's quite interesting to see how the gate behind Father is empty while we could see the tree of life on Edward's gate. This show the greatest difference between them. And I think Hohenheim represent everything what Father doesn't. Edward spent his whole young life on studying and he worked hard and sacrificed a lot to gather all the knowledge. Therefore the tree of life on his gate represents all his wisdom and knowledge on alchemy and the concept of life. Father's gate is empty because he never bothered to learn anything. All he did was stealing from others. And while Father created the homunculi as the seven deadly sins, Hohenheim represents the opposites of these sins. He is kind, generous, diligent, humble, never abuses his power or asks for more in life, is faithful to his late wife and all he wants is to prevent a second Xerxes incident. After all he went through and after giving up so much, he never even thinks about killing father. He just wants to stop him. Yet... I cant help but feel bad for him in this scene. Despite his low opinion on humans he was very human himself. His desire to be free from everything with nothing that could restrain him, reflects the desire of all humans. Alchemists keep researching to uncover all mysteries to gain power and control and break free from the laws of nature. All those who got carried away by these achievements became arrogant and believed they could outsmart god. Father is what everyone of us could become if we get blinded by our hubris and power and try to play god.
@fredrickson70244 жыл бұрын
I think it goes to their character motivations. Father, the dwarf, never seemed to really appreciate life. Never appreciated existence. It was a means to an end, not the end itself. Just a step on the ladder. In father's perspective, Life was just the place where the dwarf ascended to godhood. Compare this to Ed, whose motivated by Life itself. First it was their mother's Life, then Al's. As the series continues and the stakes get higher eventually he fights for everyone's Life. Ed's Gate has the Tree of Life because Ed made Life important to him. We see this come full circle at the end when he gives up his powers, in full acceptance that the best "magic" was existence itself. The dwarfs has nothing, because the dwarf made nothing important to him.
@DkKombo3 жыл бұрын
Maybe for me it is not to out play God, but out moralize him. I want to break free of pain, but I do nothing to further myself. I answer myself all the time, yet do nothing to help myself. If I did, I could forgive all the past transgressions that happened to me. Yet I still blame them for not moving forward, because if I did i feel it would eliminate their presence from my mind by those who outsmart me casually. It's quite a sick trap. I'm bitter and can't forgive the past, but I can't get past it either as a result. And it clouds my future as a result. Maybe some day I'll learn the meaning of love and patience and discipline.
@tacomonster27503 жыл бұрын
@@DkKombo u might be right
@sourcesymbiosismetamorphis22283 жыл бұрын
This is what happened in the fall of Atlantis. Beings with extremely advanced tech. The science basically became so advanced it looked like God's magic. They tried to reach god through the material which created their downfall. The tech got out of control and caused a flood so massive their civilization was wiped out. They tried to take a shortcut and instead of going within they looked outside of themselves to become gods. The bible speaks of the flood as well.
@Karomix32 жыл бұрын
I'm the 900rd like. ^^ Also I totally agree with you, the sins we have are there to show us how much we could achieve if we learned from them and moved past them, overcoming them to be our better selves, Father never bothered to do that himself, he just got rid of them and thought he was good enough after that, despite keeping his hubris and greed the entire time even with that, showing that he learned nothing.
@npmanifested10 жыл бұрын
The seven deadly sins is what makes us human. "It allows proper despair so humans do not become boastful" In other words without the faults and mistakes to learn from, you do not acquire proper growth through a realization of truth. If you go through life thinking your perfect, you become boastful, so you do not learn and grow. Those are the deadly consequences of over indulgence of the ego. Your own self destruction.
@nedkelly89587 жыл бұрын
Ummm obviously? That's what this whole show was about?
@alive5676 жыл бұрын
Humility develops a person Ego,destroys a person.
@jessekaakkomaki27475 жыл бұрын
true
@asdasd-el8yj5 жыл бұрын
Eloheim 吗。,,。
@Shadows925 жыл бұрын
If that's the case wouldn't u consider god to be boastful since he's perfect
@Willzb-xk4ew4 жыл бұрын
He wanted to be the perfect being But he isnt cell
@Gazing-094 жыл бұрын
Technically he is. Van Hoheneim blood cell.
@sambryce3214 жыл бұрын
Jason Adjiwanou or Kars
@B-Man-694 жыл бұрын
@@sambryce321 ayayayayayayaya
@donlu68144 жыл бұрын
Jason Adjiwanou you are the goat 🐐
@finkriel18144 жыл бұрын
Jason Adjiwanou I’m not sure if it’s a joke I’m missing out but he’s talking about Cell in dragon ball z, Perfect Cell.
@marikasdaughter62632 жыл бұрын
I love how you can both feel sorry for the dwarf in the flask and also happy to see him get what he deserved in the end. I honestly want to meet the guy from Xerxes that managed to create the dwarf in the first place, just from a tiny bit of Hohenheim's blood. To create other homunculus you need a philosophers stone which requires a lot of people not just blood from one.
@yoshijb94282 жыл бұрын
Unless they knew a technique that didn't need a human sacrifice?
@shadebinder35992 жыл бұрын
Dwarf in the flask might be different since he had basically no physical body unlike other homonculi
@noremac72162 жыл бұрын
That's how father created the other homunculus but they also had physical form and inhuman powers. Before he got his body he was just a little blob of shadow that couldn't survive outside of his flask. So it probably didn't require nearly as much to create him
@Drip_Wooper2 жыл бұрын
I never stopped to think about that guy, he died to his own creation's plan, and probably didn't even got to meet it
@freudlichertyp6299 Жыл бұрын
The dwarf in the flask is based on the Homunculus in Faust II I think. There the creator would be Magnus. I thought that this may be interesting for you. @Marika's Daughter
@ridwankhan48835 жыл бұрын
So basically, when the dwarf escaped the gate, God gave him a chance to be part of the human world. However, as the dwarf lived in the human world, he got more and more greedy and his belief in God's existence started to vanish. Thus when it fully vanished to the point where dwarf thought HE was the God, God himself pulled dwarf back from reality and tossed him back behind the gate.
@togucvinw75 жыл бұрын
Ridwan Khan Thats also What I got from that God/Truth let him experienced freedom,even at the cause of a bilion (or was it million ) people dying but Father only wasted it by trying to be more than he already was
@Nessbuo5 жыл бұрын
Britney Squad 297 *Homunculi
@novelnouvel5 жыл бұрын
@@Nessbuo Homunculi are plural. Homunculus is single.
@Nessbuo5 жыл бұрын
Novel Nouvel I know but I thought that he meant Homunculi not homunculus since he used “are” in his sentence
@novelnouvel5 жыл бұрын
@@Nessbuo we need to transmute that *"are"* into *"is"* hahaha
Honestly, after everything this little shit did to people, watching him get dragged back to the place he came from by force was really satisfying.
@alhusin20105 жыл бұрын
tarts n sweets I felt sorry for him, I mean it's a testament to how great the writer and the anime is. To display such emotions in a setting of minutes is phenomenal
@jovanio975 жыл бұрын
Revenge for Hughes!
@jesseperera87355 жыл бұрын
Frs fuck that little piece of shit he got what he deserved
I think the reason "What's wrong with desiring that?!" is never answered is because truth is also him, so he cannot answer himself because he refuses to believe there's anything wrong with wanting to be perfect.
@hasturthekinginyellow50033 жыл бұрын
Nah, truth doesnt answer because theres nothing wrong with the desire of Father, its was the means he took to reach It that were wrong
@LordTyph3 жыл бұрын
The last line can actually be taken AS an answer to that question: You must have already seen the answer. In other words, he would have known the answer to his own question if he had grown and learned.
@vanesalodico77983 жыл бұрын
@@gaelurquiz5755 the means were wrong he/she sacrificed billions of human life in order for it to get what it wants.
@kiggerst3 жыл бұрын
@@vanesalodico7798 but Truth didnt judge dwarfy for it. Truth didnt say it was wrong of him, it was the other that deem it evil. The only thing Truth point out was dwarfy's mistakes. In searching for Truth, he stray further from it by rejecting his 7desires and become "perfect", resulting in ignorance which born from him misunderstood the idea of "mistake" as something unbeffiting for a perfect being thus stop his growth.
@thesatelliteslickers9073 жыл бұрын
@@LordTyph I took that line to mean "I don't know why your asking me. When it's obvious you already know what you did wrong"
This was so amazing to watch at the time. The first time I saw Truth and it said these lines to Ed, I had no reaction, as in "pff some typical ominous lines for a villain". When I got to this scene and heard the exact same lines again, after all that happened in the series, they hit me like a ton of bricks. Exact same lines, but now we can understand. Truth either makes you humble or gives you despair because it's what you can't change. Beautiful.
@confiance1492 Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@huy2496 Жыл бұрын
Didn't it give him despair becuase he himself believed that despair is what makes someone humble? The truth would be the thing you block out of your mind but live by anyway. He saw himself as god and saw it as gods job to make people better by giving them despair so when he was confronted with his own humanity before god he was also forced to take the other end of the duality in order to establish balance.
@danix454 Жыл бұрын
@@huy2496 one of the few that recognizes truth is subjective. This is what real alchemists knew too. You are the sum of your truths, and your world reflects it back to you. Thus you’re trapped or free in a reality of your own making.
@Liam-ke2hv11 ай бұрын
@@danix454we are the architect of our own experience, players in a game, being both the game and the player
@thunderspark15369 ай бұрын
@@Liam-ke2hv It's shown beautifully with the tree. The connections we make with others are how we are remembered, and with Father not making any connections (seeing them as a weakness) he will not be remembered in a few decades.
Sad how it took him so long to build this up, just for it to get destroyed in a short amount of time.
@Shadothecat5 жыл бұрын
It stupidly because he allowed them all to plan against him. Hoihiem and Scares transmutation circles pretty much reserve everything. After that all they had to do is beat him like every other homunculus.
@tanall59595 жыл бұрын
@@Shadothecat I think it goes deeper than just not planning. His blank gate hints at it: He didn't learn a thing. He had all this power, but no wisdom to apply it with finesse. Pretty much all his plans were accomplished through brute force, or the wiles of others. So when matched against humans who were both powerful and either wise, or willing to learn, it all fell apart with tremendous speed!
@Shadothecat5 жыл бұрын
@@tanall5959 what i am saying is that the 5 sacrifices were allowed to roam free. Even after openly admitting they were going to stop him. His whole plan is pretty genius but it counted on the sacrifices just allowing him to open the earth transmutation gate and accepting his plan for them.
@thespianuzumaki54525 жыл бұрын
Kinda is sad in a way, really.
@TheAntiTrope5 жыл бұрын
You can build the largest building, it may take 10 years, with the right equipment it can be destroyed in a matter of minutes.
The dwarf in the flask is life at its simple form. Non dual and no thing. He attached himself to the belief that everything was to be acquired through external means. He detached himself from his inner divinity by aspiring to achieve this thing called "God", a concept, which is how the show dabbles into Zen Buddhism. The dwarf thought by detaching himself from the seven deadly sins, he would be able to achieve perfection which is wrong.
@jacobfoxall56336 жыл бұрын
Eloheim not everyone would agree with you on that, though which is sad of course because we would just end up becoming empty shells to be played with. So many people see the 7 deadly sins nothing but evil and must be destroyed if we are to achieve paradise or be acceptable by god even if it means destroying everything else we hold dear to us and so many people uses that to manipulate others into destroying themselves as well for someone else's gain. If God is a true father and merciful than he would want us to grow and learn instead making us lesser beings with little thought or care in the world we all make together.
@REDDAWNproject3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobfoxall5633 the sins should be observed, understood, but never succumbed to.
@Ankh_Hippy2 жыл бұрын
Detaching them and in the way he went about it shows how he renounces parts of himself that are semi inherent while he himself is not a human…but still part of the whole. If he understood that and saw that truth for himself the god figure could have answered his question…the real question is if he saw it for *himself* would this whole conflict even exist?
@thesnatcher3616 Жыл бұрын
@@REDDAWNproject That is the only way to truly beat them, because as humans are inherently flawed, there is no way we can actually cut them out of ourselves lest we sacrifice our humanity entirely. It is an impssible task that even the Dwarf failed at due to how despite expunging the sins from himself, he still represented each sin to a tee but with none of the nuance or redeeming qualities the "sin" may bring. A bit of pride is just confidence, which is important and allows you to hold your own identity. A bit of envy can be seen as admiration and the desire to better oneself in order to meet the standards, etc. etc. His entire journey was completely and utterly pointless.
"I wanted to learn everything!" -An Evil Dusty Bunny "You ain't learned shit, ten thousand years in the cave of wonders ought to chill you out!" -One Smiley Boi
@Crazieyboy153 жыл бұрын
Bruh, this needs to be in an abridged version. XD
@Grand586872 жыл бұрын
eternal years*
@Danka42Ай бұрын
That about sums it up 😅
@eikyuunohimazin3 жыл бұрын
欲して何が悪い望んで何が悪い 願い求めて何が悪い!!!この言葉好きだな〜
@no-nt3dx3 жыл бұрын
このセリフに対して白い方が否定してないってのがまたなんとも言えないんよね
@eikyuunohimazin3 жыл бұрын
@@no-nt3dx それな〜
@user-rh1je2zj6k2 жыл бұрын
望むものを苦労せずに叶えようとしたから扉には何もなかった 残念な人生よ
@defbug5 жыл бұрын
Truth's voice is soooo soothing.... Outworldy and ethereal at the same time!!!!
@mickel14705 жыл бұрын
I never noticed before another youtuber pointed it out but Father's gate was totally blank the entire time Everyone else had an intricate door that symbolized the knowledge they'd acquired through their lives. Father took knowledge from everyone and everything he could find, but none of it was ever truly his. Pretty nice touch!
@Gigi-zr6hp2 жыл бұрын
Wow didn't thought about that. Nice catch
@Drip_Wooper2 жыл бұрын
holy fckng sht yeah! I never noticed that, truth was probably "bitch, seriously?" the entire time, bc the little one in the flask was ALWAYS bragging about being the smartest one and getting knowledge throught life, but truth knows the truth... the truth about the fact that the dwarf literally doesn't know nothing and doesn't seems to want to learn nothing(I mean, that's literally what was said XD) the dwarf misunderstood what "learning" meant and kept getting what belong to others instead of trying to live himself, the dwarf doesn't know nothing and never will, yet he keeps asking to be given more time to learn
The interesting thing about the Dwarf is that I think he represents the human condition, we are small insignificant beings stuck on the restrictions of the matter, the body and the laws of the universe, our "flask". He wishing for knowledge and freedom is not wrong, and mirrors our struggle and angst living in a chaotic world with a fragile body without really knowing why we are here and where we are going, but just like us humans are capable of, he goes too far and in the end his foolishness came back to punish him. His story is summarized perfectly by Ed in the beggining when he tells Rose about the danger of getting too close to the sun, which is one of the main themes of the show
@gdas40922 жыл бұрын
It reflected what he himself tried to do by resurrecting his mother,when he didn't know the consequences of law of equivalent exchange
"I wanted to be the perfect being - Kami, what is wrong with that?" But no answer given - it is never wrong to improve yourself, but how you achieve it matters ... Repeated genocides might be a little bit too much
@onefairyfan874 жыл бұрын
Jovani O All he had to do, was learn how to accept what he has, the truth was to never become better than humans.....because he lost himself, there was no other ending for him.
@JMStheKing4 жыл бұрын
Truth doesn't really care about the mass genocides, it's just that dwarf didn't use his own power/knowledge to chase his dreams
@dannylin59804 жыл бұрын
The idea isn’t wrong... but when ur using others, which dictates selfishness will destroy you. Look at the end battle, he has NOTHING, he have basically the entire world trying to destroy him. That is sad
@Hundderx4 жыл бұрын
Jesus is the truth. Hes coming soon.. repent
@Beos_Valrah2 жыл бұрын
@@riagabriella3505 Implying that god exists. But here is the problem: we simply cannot know this.
@KiuhKobold3 жыл бұрын
Reading through this comment section sparks so much joy on a philosophy-loving person like me. Just so many people able to grasp what the moment means, what the lines lead to, the meaning, the fitting punishment, and even beyond the scene. Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is an anime, a life lesson, and a lesson about our world and the people in it.
@moosesues88872 жыл бұрын
I did not understand a damn thing wtf is going on
@fappgodmaster10502 жыл бұрын
@@moosesues8887 What didn't you understand? Maybe I can help
@moosesues88872 жыл бұрын
@@fappgodmaster1050 nah about the show like I haven’t seen it yet and these comments confusing as ell
@mayounez72422 жыл бұрын
@@moosesues8887 then go watch it and try to understand ig? ofc you'll not understand what people are talking about in this comment section without watching the show and know te context of this scene. Plus FMAB is a great show so I recommend watching it regardless
@moosesues88872 жыл бұрын
@@mayounez7242 no way in ell someone like me is finishing that anytime soon like it took me a whole year to get thru one piece
@jayaplanthara3 жыл бұрын
As a Christian, I adored the underlying themes of this show. They were executed flawlessly
@Concerned_Custodian3 жыл бұрын
As a catholic, I adored the fact you said this without anyone needing to know that.
@Marx_D._Soul3 жыл бұрын
@@Concerned_Custodian It's a showing of authority and merit -- ideally, their religious status lends credence to their judgement of the work over someone who isn't as familiar with Christian themes. Alas, most christians care not for their own teachings, and indeed act more like Marcus Pontius Pilatus' loyal centurions than anything close to the messiah, so it holds little ground.
@baitposter3 жыл бұрын
@@Concerned_Custodian _Adding to what Marx said:_ i.e. it's an appeal to ethos
@irsshill45022 жыл бұрын
If christians actually read their bibles, rome wouldn't have any believers.
@mrmagpie66842 жыл бұрын
@@Marx_D._Soul Man you must have been itching to get that out there. Here’s a much more fair interpretation of the original comment which doesn’t rely on cheap psychoanalysis and moral cynicism: “As someone with x values, I appreciated how well they were expressed by this show.” That’s it. And @Overly Agressive Machine this is a KZfaq comment section, lol. People can post their reactions if they want to.
The irony is that the Homunculus wanted to become "One" with "God". His endgame was to do so, with himself in control. In defeat, his fate was to become "One" with "God", but as an infinitesimally small portion of the greater being. So he gets what he wanted, but not in the way he had planned.
@truffle60822 жыл бұрын
Poetic he still joined with God in the end . But lost his independence , just like he was in the flask.
He wanted to become the perfect being, and perhaps he succeeded, look at how clean and uniform his door is
@anonguy7722 жыл бұрын
Until you realize the Door of Truth is marked with all your knowledge - he learned nothing, so... big L for trying to learn everything :V
@balanc-joy91872 жыл бұрын
Though Edgelord is quite right that that's what that means, that Father never actually _learned_ anything for himself in all his years of life, your point made me think of an interesting way of thinking about this that still fits with what you said. Father essentially seemed to think that "perfection" meant "free of the desires that corrupt oneself" essentially "pure" in some sense. Father thinks that desiring things, and being human in the sense we often use it, being fallible and to be influenced by our wants and our environment, are bad, and corrupt us. That is true, but Father's door being blank also demonstrates the problem with wanting to be "pure" in that sense...you learn nothing because you _want_ nothing strongly enough, and have no depth as a person, and thus in a sense are "blank", just like Father's door. I've noticed that sense of "blankness" or lack of personality, happens with people who surrender their individuality, like cult members. In Father's case, he did it _to himself_ by literally _removing_ the things that made him more of a complete individual. Arguably, he still _had_ all those sins judging by his actions and a few moments of his expressions, but he removed the parts of them that made a significant impact on his personality, and without that...he's just a shadow of what he used to be, and at the end, since he didn't learn anything, his doors had nothing to display at all. His soul utterly vacant of any distinguishing appearance beyond that exact _lack_ of it. Father wanted to be better than everything, even God, and yet at the end of the day, he was little better than nothing at all...
@ansonburgdorf39402 жыл бұрын
When you try to learn 'everything' you really are learning 'nothing' because only 'everything' can be sacrificed for 'everything' and when you sacrifice everything you are left with 'nothing'.
I love that Truth takes on the form of everyone whoever they're speaking to. That really gives you the answer
@blaria954 жыл бұрын
I truly do hate the Dwarf in the Flask, but even a character like him I cannot help feeling bad for. I even feel bad for Envy. Such a hardcore psychopath but his cries and humiliation are just TRAGiC. This show INTENDS to make us watchers feel bad for characters who should NEVER BE FORGIVEN. Is there anyone else who feels bad for the Dwarf in the Flask besides me?
@blaria953 жыл бұрын
@@Helmut-Von-Liechtenstein ,I agree with you.
@ThisisKyle3 жыл бұрын
No not really, I relished in the suffering of both the Dwarf and Envy. I honestly believe terrible people should have terrible things done to them and I usually wish I was the one to inflict these terrible things upon them. I'm not a good person but sometimes there is a need for necessary evil
@dmin57823 жыл бұрын
@@ThisisKyle Is “necessary evil” really necessary? Revenge doesn’t make their past sins go away, it just makes you as bad of a person as them. The end doesn’t always justify the means.
@subratanandy21423 жыл бұрын
I agree. I truly felt bad for him. All his actions only took him away from what he wanted. His pledge made my heart ache , even though he is an unforgivable person.
@prehistoriccreator96003 жыл бұрын
He's more of a Sociopath, not a psychopath, He did in the end have emotons.
@shilloe133 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best antagonists that I've seen in anime, he wasn't the typical villain which made him more interesting.
@faisfaiz43533 жыл бұрын
Poor guy just wanted to become perfect and know the world. Getting defeated by an alchemy with metal arm.
Whenever people talk about the show, they always talk about it's amazing animation, awasome fight scenes, great world building, non-traditional shonen storyline, great protagonist, side characters & well written antagonists and a good ending but they just forget how philosophical & metaphorical story it actually is.
I like how this series gets classical Western philosophy so much better than any modern work. It makes me curious to know if Hiromu Arakawa has read Aristotle or Boethius. For anyone curious, the answer to the little on in the flask is spelled very clearly at the end of chapter 4 of the Consolation of Philosophy by Boethius, and elaborated in chapter 5. We should remember Psalm 131 too, I guess.
@irvinmorales14092 жыл бұрын
Ironically, the Japanese show my respect to the customs of Americans than Americans do to most entertainment mediums today.
@feliciaf82 жыл бұрын
@@irvinmorales1409 for real
@melonlord50262 жыл бұрын
Hiromu Arakawa is known to love reading so maybe she did read those.
@pinoyyya69482 жыл бұрын
filho
@cara-seyun Жыл бұрын
She definitely did her research on alchemy, so I wouldn’t doubt it
Man has it already been over 10 years since this ending? Time flies so terribly fast.
@shanechannel70663 жыл бұрын
"What wrong with learning everything?" Knowledge does not equal maturity.
@lapersonneanonime43693 жыл бұрын
what the fuck do you mean, what is maturity , its so subjective of a term, knowledge isn't if you have knowledge you would know how and what it is to be mature, next time before saying random shit think about it
@jedanichi71943 жыл бұрын
@@lapersonneanonime4369 follow what you preach
@nurnaimm3 жыл бұрын
Lol you're trying so freaking hard to be smart-ass jerk but it doesn't even make sense😂
@lapersonneanonime43693 жыл бұрын
@@jedanichi7194 elaborate, i seek knowledge, and again maturity is a subject and vague term that can vary depending on culture and self definition of such