In facet, the story depicts another rebel leader Chen sheng.

Liu Bang: "Well that's an easy choice."

It's in the family!

LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Liubei is like uncle of auntie of uncle of brother here and there relative, not sure still related

For different reasons though. 🤣

You are a genius LMAO XD

I’d say his victory over Xiang Yu was the victory of statesmanship.

You guys should check out 王的盛宴 The Last Supper (2012) movie, it's about Liu Bang's life and it's beautifully done.

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@@7EvanPAC789 Cool story

P.O.V. you have plot armour

True He may can’t lead soldiers, but he can lead generals

This may be true but I'd hate living this kind of life. I'd rather be a capable and competent person who can do things and achieve greatness on my own, rather than relying on others to do them for me. I'm more of a doer than a sayer. I'd like to be out on the battlefield, be in the thick of things and do things on my own than sitting back in my comfortable palace only giving commands. I suppose each persons has their own path that only they can walk which makes them uniquely them.

@@VersionBest Organizing people, listening to their inputs, choosing whose ideas have more merit, and which course to take is a skill as well. You may not be the best engineer, the best scientist, the best labor organizer or the best logistics manager, but if you're capable of looking at the big picture and fitting the information and ideas than each of those people will provide you, you're providing something really useful to the whole, and a person so blinded by their own ego that cannot accept someone else's superiority in some areas is unfit for that position.

Like how CEOs are these days. They just know who to employ; they're may not be the ones with the actual engineering brains

​@@VersionBestbro the man literally unified China wtf are you doing? 😂

I love Han Xin story. He should rebel, but he knew doing that that will prolong the war. He grew up poor. He had to beg for food and he had to crawl under someone legs to avoid a fight. He doesn't want China to stay poor and war torn. So he picked a side and seal his fate. As for refusing to help Liu Bang and requesting the title was Han Xin advisor idea? I remember he was the one who want Han Xin to rebel and the best way to do that was to put a wedge between Liu Bang and Han Xin. Zhang saw that ploy and adviced Liu Bang to grand his wises. The person who killed Han Xin was Liu Bang wife after hearing humor that Han Xin was going to rebel. She also killed her daughter husband after hearing the same rumor. It was the daughter of idea to pay back for her cheating husband. I hope I got that right. I had been long time since I read about their biology. Liu Bang - The Peasant Scoundrel Who Founded the Han Dynasty. (Complete Series) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndZymsSo2tbMlmw.html

Move it!

The yellow dragon will replace the Han. Yada yada.

Wasn’t Han dynasty aligned with fire (red)? IIRC that is the reason why the yellow turbans wore yellow. Yellow (earth) replaces red (fire)

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I love Han Xin story. He should rebel, but he knew doing that that will prolong the war. He grew up poor. He had to beg for food and he had to crawl under someone legs to avoid a fight. He doesn't want China to stay poor and war torn. So he picked a side and seal his fate. As for refusing to help Liu Bang and requesting the title was Han Xin advisor idea? I remember he was the one who want Han Xin to rebel and the best way to do that was to put a wedge between Liu Bang and Han Xin. Zhang saw that ploy and adviced Liu Bang to grand his wises. The person who killed Han Xin was Liu Bang wife after hearing humor that Han Xin was going to rebel. She also killed her daughter husband after hearing the same rumor. It was the daughter of idea to pay back for her cheating husband. I hope I got that right. I had been long time since I read about their biology. Liu Bang - The Peasant Scoundrel Who Founded the Han Dynasty. (Complete Series) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndZymsSo2tbMlmw.html

I just feel that Liu Bang's face is very consistent with our impression

I think his name is Ray. History Bros said so on another video.

Liu bang is a great leader while xiang yu is great warrior he can be a great general not an emperor

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@@theendisnear5733 He doesn't want to be an emperor. They have overthrown the Qin empire. He wants the world ruled by kings. Not one single man.

Liu Bang was the Chinese Littlefinger.

@@year111 No he's not. Littlefinger was never a good leader. There are not very many people who want to follow him. Liu Bang is like Napoleon. People love him and want to fight for him. And most important. He can lead his men from one victory to another. Liu Bang is the definition of a leader.

Not just dynasty or emperor, even people like Song Ci, the content of Shan Hai Jing, Taoism, Gou Jian and more, are all interesting.

I'd honestly love to live during this time and be a warrior fighting on the side of righteousness and protecting my homeland from intruders.

So is Bai Qi

The Troop Hermit....quite a man indeed.

i watch that series, thats why i'm become interested with han-chu contest, with many familiar figure (from three kingdom 2010) that series become more fun to watch

Sounds like Peter gets type cast.

@@Sacrilege83 not wrong, he's the tragic pretty boy lately, he's playing Zhuge Zhan soon too apparently

This is why Chaotic Neutral is superior to Lawful Good.

Yes, you're funny

he did inherit some traits from his ancestor Liu Bang, like throwing away children. :D

@@jansandman6983 but Liu Bang's kids did not suffered from brain trauma

@@jurtra9090 nevertheless he threw em out of the carriage to lose weight for gaining more speed in escaping :D

Han Xin is essential in war time. He's too popular and scary to keep around in peace time. If I was Han Xin, I would grovel and act more like a buffoon to downplay how dangerous I was much like Liu Bang did to Xiang Yu.

Sounds cool

Xiang Yu is more of a general and warrior while Liu Bang is politicians.

@@TheExtraterrestrial99 Xiang yu was cruel same like Ying Zheng. One instance he killed former Qin army whereas Liu Bang was benevolent.

@@pangeran92 Liu Bang also has history of massacre the citezen together with Xiang Yu when enter the city. It just his army was smaller that time so less kill count. His army also did several times massacre, just not by him but personal act of his general. Liu Bang also has history of killing off his subordinate that contributed a lot for his dynasty.

@@pangeran92 He just a lot better at promoting himself and his army than Xiang Yu. He is a true politician.

Many things are at the right time at the right place. In fact no great people exists without an equally great circumstances that propel them to greatness

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I recommend you watch a Hong Kong's TVB series based on this called "The Conqueror's Story". Though it was low budget, but it has a very good romanticized, dramatic and humanatarian storytelling.

Yes, many version 。 recommend this version most best 《楚汉传奇》

Kings war - Netflix

Nah, usually Royalty use golden yellow color or some kind of yellow color, therefore non royal completely forbid wearing Royal Yellow during olden days it was a serious crime if anyone found dress in Royal yellow, the punishment was not just that individual's death, it may even lead to the whole clan's family members execution (we are talking few hundred to a thousand individuals here), as for red, that is a very typical Lunar New Year color, the myth said each year at Lunar New Year eve, a monster called Nian will come out to destroy things even eating children, the only way to fend it off it is by wearing red and do fire cracker, make a lot of loud noise, therefore Chinese lunar new year always noisy, full of red color, lot of fire cracker. Red also represent happiness and fortune, brings luck, during wedding the marry couple often dress in red, the whole bridal room also red, red pillow case, red bed sheets, red blanket, just red red red. During lunar new year, grown up often give red packet to non marry individuals or their young children for luck, in new year eve, parents will put red packet under children's pillow, this is said to be helping children to grow faster and heathier in tradition, therefore red it is an extremely important color in Chinese culture for few thousand years.

@@eveleung8855 - I'm aware that red has many meanings in Chinese culture. I still happen to have a preference for that color since I was a kid.

@borray s - I thought he kickstarted a Revolution and won. After he reached power he was rather disappointing in some aspects but who isn't?

@borray s - That's a leader who knows how to delegate (and also got himself the best wife, and some other allies, what is a merit as well).

It's the other way around, with Liu Bei trying to emulate his ancestor Liu Bang.

They both abandoned their family's to the enemy. Imagine Liu Bang close relative got killed. Just like Wu did to Guan Yu. Liu bei gonna turns into a monster.

They're blood related

Liu Bei is, indeed, a descendant of Liu Bang. It's not a coincidence that his kingdom is called Shu Han.

The different is Liu Bang can teach his son as good ruler unlike Liu Bei haha

Feel better soon!

Get well!

Can't wait

It's alright CJ, your health comes first.

Can you please do Lui Bei, Cao Cao and Sun Quan - and make reference to the differences between romance version and historical records (lol total war reference!)

@Harris Fu 👍 nice read.

Han Xin is essential in war time but popular and dangerous (even if he doesn't act on it) during peace time. It sucks for Han Xin but his death is probably a factor on why Han has a solid foundation.

@@Gooong 😃👍

Liu Bang's wife (Lü) was a smart, tragic driven craze woman, she was abandoned by Liu Bang during his escape from execution, surviving while taking care of her 2 childrens alone, till she finally united with her husband years later realizing there's another woman (Consort Qi) by his side, who he continue to love more until he died. She was also tortured, imprisoned with her children later during the war too. Lü gave a lot of excellent advises for Liu Bang to strengthen Han, and dedicated her whole life on protecting Liu's bloodline (except for Qi's side.). Sadly, on her last years after Liu Bang's death, she turn bat shit crazy, cruel, power thirst and extremely paranoid. She murdered a tons of loyalist and create massive tension of the high power of Han. She nearly become the first empress instead of Wu Ze Tian, only had been stopped by her last string of sane for the sake of peace, her very old age and Liu bloodline's safety. The most fked up thing Lü ever did was poisoned and killed Consort Qi's son, cut off Qi's four limbs, deafen her, blinded her, muted her with poison, and put her into an excretion pot of a toilet for people to excrete on her until she died.

@@passbyicecube 😱💚

That s a shining example of meritocracy and pragmatism in Chinese culture

Xiang Yu = Western Han Dynasty Lu Bu = End of the Han Dynasty/Pre-Three Kingdoms Era

Don't be worried about that. Liu Bang wasn't the one who actually founded the Dynasty. It was Han Xin

@@hunggamerofficial3252 what?

@@toedpens4954 You're telling me you don't know? Cao Cao knew it, and you're using Cao Cao as your profile picture

@@hunggamerofficial3252 yup, I only know of Cao Cao praising Zhang Liang by calling Xun Yu his personal one

@@toedpens4954 I know what you're talking about. I read that from the novel of Luo Guan Zhong. However, Luo Guan Zhong wrote a novel to praise the Han Dynasty, so what he wrote did not reflect history. After reading Chen Shou's records, i realised Cao Cao was nothing like Luo Guan Zhong described

@Soulwalker Young Xiang Yu in King's War was protrayed as a tragic hero. King's War was as much of a story of Xiang Yu's downfall as much as it was about the struggle between Liu Bang and Xiang Yu over the fate of an empire. His downfall in the series arguably started when he allegedly massacred 200,000 Qin soldiers that surrendered.

King's War was really well done and I think it is the most accurate portrayal of the story. If I was Han Xi I'd have 2 options choose loyalty or force a triumvirate.

@Soulwalker Young The definition of hero has changed over time. In the context of Xiang Yu, he is the Greek tragic hero. He had charisma, martial prowess, and good bloodlines, all considered heroic traits. He was also arrogant, simple minded, and doesn't listen to sensible advice (see Fan Zeng). Those flaws were what made Xiang Yu a tragic hero.

It is highly unlikely that what historians wrote about Xiang Yu is accurate considering the people were probably biased after defeating him. The winners are the ones who write History. On the other hand what is written about Liu Bang is probably exaggerated since he was the First emperor of a dynasty.

@Soulwalker Young "In order to justify the rule, the enemy would have to take all the blame. Historians are but tool for propaganda" Chen Gong (The Ravages of Time, manga)

What do you mean? Zhang Liang wanted to restore 韩(han) and Liu Bang let him go, but after Xiang Yu murdered the king of 韩 Zhang Liang decided to come back and help Liu Bang the king of 汉(Han).

@@axiemeisterl6645 Thanks. At first, I thought Zhang Liang wanted to restore the same Han Liu Bang was just coincidentally gifted to. Didn't realise they were two different kingdoms.

exactly

Keeping them together would have been more dangerous. These were still imperial troops and the fact that liu bang kept the emperor with him, these men could be easily swayed to turn on xiang yu. He should've killed liu bang straight up in hong gate or let him die in the hongmei banquet.

@@j0hncarp I disagree, you don't understand the situation in a civil war. The last Qin emperor was a total wimp. Those surrendered Qin troops would likely to accept the offer, because it would ensure themselves do not starve to death. Starvation and famine is a common occurrence, esp in civil war. Say even if only 10% accepted, it would make a difference as they are already seasoned troops and do not require to train from scratch. Killing all 200,000 is a big NO-NO.

Easier said than done. I would say it’s just Xiang Yu doing Xiang Yu things.

Killing surrendered troops is a great way to ensure no one ever surrenders to you again and that your enemy fights to the last man.

I mean to be fair he was also the 4th emperor and 1-3 lasted like 20 years.

And then 1.5 centuries later the bigger China* got their own Liu Bang** *Bigger China as in Rome/Da Qin 大秦 **Gaius Octavius, later taking his granduncle's name of Gaius Julius Caesar as part of his will to adopt him after the et tu brute moment, and then became Augustus, first Princeps Civitatis

probably a merchant like Lü Buwei who were also a great leader and employed the most talented people from all of the kingdoms.

... well don't want to be ruled by an emperor that makes it very easy for you to become a criminal and a slave.

But Liu Bang also an emperor. Qin build a lot of things and try to achieve a lot of things that became a burden for the people, causing the people to against him. Another also due to they are the one destroyed other countries and unified China, basically by force. Many leftover force/descendant from those countries want revenge and rebuild their country, Xiang Yu is one of those people. Third, the death of Qin Shi Huang. After his death, the inner circle of Qin spread and each of them wanted to fight for the grab of power by using his lack inability son. Qin fall is not just from outer threat, but inner conflict too.

Destruction of qin empire means people doesn’t want to be ruled by pure force. Han is successful because it combines both Confucius and legalism. Less strict law, yet with more educational efforts and virtual.

@@papercat2599 Yes, what I trying to say is. Because LiuBang himself was a important leader participate in the revolution war that destroyed the Qin dynasty. It's add more difficulty when Liubang trying to unified China and become a emperor himself.

They are the leftovers. Even after Qin unified China, there still little war here and there, they still fighting with those resistance.

Thanks! I had.

Maybe Kingdom can reach it?

@@toedpens4954 No, Kingdom is the story of Lee Xin and Ying Zheng. They'd be long gone by the time Liu Bang, Han Xin and Xiang Yu took the major stage.

@@airstyles1989 just some optimism

@@toedpens4954 well the timeline difference is too long. It'll take more episode than Detective Conan, lol

Read Chinese version of anime called manhua, the legends of emperors.

Luck? Perhaps destiny. Sometimes I remind myself in the modern times whether you become a startup billionaire is also up to destiny.

@@tat3179 Han Xin used to guard door for Xiang Yu. Xiang Yu didn't find his gift, and he left. Liu Bang made Han Xin great general

It wasnt luck. Xiang Yu had many talented people under his service before but he was too arrogant or too stupid to use them ( namely Han Xin and Chen Ping). On the other hand, Liu Bang had a very good eye for talented people(well except Han Xin lol), and he knew how to use them to their fullest potential. A good leader doesnt need to be a super human that is good at everything. A good leader is the one that can use other’s talents for greater good. Liu bang was good aT that and he won. It wasnt luck.

​@@xjackietranx I agreed with your assertion, but Liu Bang was not that smart. He had brilliant eyes though.

Man put all of his points in luck.