What sam said? Because so many different christian faiths could say that to any other sect (of different belief) if they don't agree. However Jesus said "One faith, one people".

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. So no, you were not called to Catholicism. I don't know what you think is heresy when half of what we teach can be found in the Early Church Fathers writings and the other half was made heresy hundreds of years later.

@@dylanwilliams2202 just because you claim it to be true, doesn’t mean it is. Yeah, you think you have early church fathers on your side but in reality, y’all don’t understand the context behind the statements of “you will be like God” or even when Jesus said “ye are gods” because your church flip flops on what it wants to believe and whether you’re Christian or not. You don’t know me, I don’t know you so please don’t tell me that God didn’t do something when I know He did. The church never had to be restored because Jesus said that “the gates of hell will not prevail” so the church needing a restoration is calling Jesus a liar. The church has always been here and it is the one true, holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. Jesus is fully present in the Eucharist

@@pentesaint_ _"just because you claim it to be true, doesn’t mean it is."_ You're right, just bearing my testimony lol. But unlike the Catholic Church, our truthfulness can be easily proven. _"y’all don’t understand the context behind the statements of “you will be like God” or even when Jesus said “ye are gods”"_ I am kind of confused on what exactly you are referring to because "You will be like Gods" comes from Genesis. Which, just in case, the first lie wasn’t “thou shall be as Gods, knowing good from evil” but “Thou shalt surely not die”. We know this because God in Genesis 3:22 says “Then the Lord God said, “See, *the humans have become like one of us, knowing good and evil,* and now they might reach out their hands and take also from the tree of life and eat and live forever” Jesus said "ye are Gods" to show the pharisees they were being hypocrites by condemning him for saying that he was the Son of God when there scriptures say they are Gods. Clement of Alexandria said *“I say, the Word of God became man, that thou mayest learn from man how man may become God.”* - Extortion to the heathen chapter 1. I don't know how much clearer you can be than that, mind you I have many more quotes from Clement of Alexandria and other saved that say similar things but for space I am not going to put them here unless you want me too. _"because your church flip flops on what it wants to believe and whether you’re Christian or not."_ This is just a straight up lie. _"please don’t tell me that God didn’t do something when I know He did."_ God wouldn't tell you to leave his Church or lead you away from it to join a "Church" that has no authority to stand on and teaches false doctrine and practices idolatry. It's kinda obvious why I said it lol. _"The church never had to be restored because Jesus said that “the gates of hell will not prevail”_ LOL I love when you all try and quote this because it is so easily disprovable. That is saying that the gates of hell wouldn't prevail against *the rock who is Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 10:4),* not the Church. Hence why it says “and on this rock (Jesus Christ) I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it (Jesus Christ).” This has shown to have been the case because 1 Peter 3:19 tells of Christ going in and teaching to spirits in prison that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. (1 Peter 4:6) and that preaching is still happening today because every knee will bow and confess Jesus is Lord (Philippians 2:10-11) on judgment day. The gates of hell did not prevail because Jesus Christ broke through the bands of death and hell and his gospel went into hell like a rock smashing through a gate. The gates of hell are *gates* not a person or entity and those *gates* did not prevail against Christ. Even if I were to entertain the idea of it talking of the Church then it still would hold true because the gates of hell didn't prevail against the Church because the Church came back. The closest you can get to it meaning Peter would be his faith in Christ that was the rock, and on this rock or Peter’s faith in Christ will He establish his Church. Peter himself uses the same imagery in his first epistle saying the church is built of numerous “living stones” (1 Peter 2:5) who, like Peter, confess that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, and those confessions of faith are the bedrock of the church. Which is also how the Early Church Fathers took Matthew 16:18 to mean. Origen said “And if we too have said like Peter, ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God,’ not as if flesh and blood had revealed it unto us, but by the light from the Father in heaven having shone in our heart, we become a Peter, and to us there might be said by the Word, ‘Thou art Peter,’ etc. *For a rock is every disciple of Christ of whom those drank who drank of the spiritual rock which followed them,* and upon every such rock is built every word of the Church, and the polity in accordance with it; for in each of the perfect, who have the combination of words and deeds and thoughts which fill up the blessedness, is the church built by God. *But if you suppose that upon the one Peter only the whole church is built by God, what would you say about John the son of thunder or each one of the Apostles? Shall we otherwise dare to say, that against Peter in particular the gates of Hades shall not prevail, but that they shall prevail against the other Apostles and the perfect? Does not the saying previously made, ‘The gates of Hades shall not prevail against it,’ hold in regard to all and in the case of each of them?* And also the saying, ‘Upon this rock I will build My Church?’ Are the keys of the kingdom of heaven given by the Lord to Peter only, and will no other of the blessed receive them? But if this promise, ‘I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven,’ be common to others, how shall not all things previously spoken of, and the things which are subjoined as having been addressed to Peter, be common to them? ‘Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ If any one says this to Him…he will obtain the things that were spoken according to the letter of the Gospel to that Peter, but, as the spirit of the Gospel teaches to every one who becomes such as that Peter was. *For all bear the surname ‘rock’ who are the imitators of Christ,* that is, of the spiritual rock which followed those who are being saved, that they may drink from it the spiritual draught. But these bear the surname of rock just as Christ does. But also as members of Christ deriving their surname from Him they are called Christians, and from the rock, Peters…And to all such the saying of the Savior might be spoken, ‘Thou art Peter’ etc., down to the words, ‘prevail against it.’ But what is the it? Is it the rock upon which Christ builds the Church, or is it the Church? For the phrase is ambiguous. Or is it as if the rock and the Church were one and the same? This I think to be true; for neither against the rock on which Christ builds His Church, nor against the Church will the gates of Hades prevail. Now, if the gates of Hades prevail against any one, such one cannot be a rock upon which the Christ builds the Church, nor the Church built by Jesus upon the rock” (Allan Menzies, Ante-Nicene Fathers (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1951), Origen, Commentary on Matthew). From Augustine “And I tell you…‘You are Peter, Rocky, and on this rock I shall build my Church, and the gates of the underworld will not conquer her. To you shall I give the keys of the kingdom. Whatever you bind on earth shall also be bound in heaven; whatever you loose on earth shall also be loosed in heaven’ (Mt 16:15-19). In Peter, Rocky, we see our attention drawn to the rock. Now the apostle Paul says about the former people, ‘They drank from the spiritual rock that was following them; *but the rock was Christ’ (1 Cor 10:4). So this disciple is called Rocky from the rock, like Christian from Christ…* Why have I wanted to make this little introduction? In order to suggest to you that in Peter the Church is to be recognized. *Christ, you see, built his Church not on a man but on Peter’s confession. What is Peter’s confession? ‘You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ There’s the rock for you, there’s the foundation, there’s where the Church has been built, which the gates of the underworld cannot conquer”* (John Rotelle, Ed., The Works of Saint Augustine (New Rochelle: New City Press, 1993), Sermons, Vol. 6, Sermon 229P.1, p. 327). Again, I have other quotes saved I could use but for space I am not going too unless you really want me too. The current Catholic interpretation of Matthew 16:18 is not shared by the Early Church Fathers and is a later interpretation to try and justify the false Catholic claim of being true. To say that the Church was built on Peter is to say that the Catholic Church is Peter’s Church and not Jesus Christs.

@@dylanwilliams2202 I didn’t realize that you’d send an essay haha. Let me get back to you on all of this after I’ve read it

⁠@@dylanwilliams2202 Why don’t you join a live & debate Sam? Would enjoy to see the conclusion to that.

Well duh lol that’s what happens when you try to debate something you’re not informed on, people will start going anywhere in conversation to feel safe when their ideas are under attack

He doesn’t even represent what Mormons actually believe. Mormons don’t believe Jesus existed eternally. They believe he is our brother 🤦‍♂️

Has your Protestant view of salvation by faith (no merit) changed now that you are Orthodox/Catholic?

Totally agree

That’s the consequence of following Mormonism. They have to constantly perform mental gymnastics to try to make their theology fit.

Yeah normally I would say polygamy is bad bc it takes up potential female mates and messes up the balance but with the (I hate to use this word) "incel" problem and things like that in the secular/Christian society I certainly can't use that argument lol.

no, sadly.

That is actually the name of one of LDS newly revealed angel. Good thing that something so important was only revealed 200 years ago. Very plausible that this revelation is very solid indeed...

@@remainhumble6432 At least Muhammad used an actual angel, St. Gabriel though that's not good either.

@@LadyMaria Well actually it was Jibreel...who knows who that is. And that angel squeezed him several times to make him read. The angel apparently did not know that Mohd could not read. The more you look at these fake stories the more you wonder why are so many people so dumb...

Yes, it took me 12 years to learn these doctrines as an insider of Mormonism. It takes patience and perseverance to work with those who have been brainwashed monthly to go up and say, “I believe Jospeh Smith restored the corruptions in the gospel…” only God can bless you with level of patience to work with these people

God knew that lamestream Christianity would be hung up on that wrongly interpreted passage of scripture and so He came to the Prophet Joseph Smith with His Beloved Son JESUS CHRIST. God's authority is greater than an angel's authority and it is His authority(Melchizedek Priesthood) that opens dispensations, not the subordinate authority(Aaronic Priesthood) of angels.

@@user-yr9lt7dz8kthe guy who married 33 women and the Book of Mormon rewrote 72% was destroyed????…..

​@@user-yr9lt7dz8k Smith first met the angel mormoni which directed him towards where to find the supposed golden plates with the writings on it, leading him to it, so essentially coming with a different gospel? If mormoni was an unimportant messenger then why is your book called the book of mormon? The Last testament of Jesus part was later added because everyone knew Smith as the american Muhammad.

​@@stefanspinu434you mean Moroni, Moroni was the one who visited Joseph Smith. Moroni was the son of Mormon. It's called the book of Mormon because Mormon compiled it and abridged it.

​@@user-yr9lt7dz8k LDS is a cult but at least it's not as violent as Islam 😂

You need to spend more time in the scriptures. The Law of Tithing is for our benefit to harness greater blessings. It's about sacrifice, it's about obedience. How is the church to be built up without money. Will a man rob God. The New Testament teaches about Tithing. Go read about it so you are not lead astray with false teachings

I am in the Catholic Church.

@@shamounian what do you think about the conservative Lutherans, they acknowledge the early church, creeds etc. thoughts.

Absolutely, however it’s important to look at church fathers to see where they agree, as that is strong evidence as to where the Holy Spirit was guiding his church.

Exposed a cult? 🤣🤣🤣. Y'all are just robots used by satan to regurgitate talking points and spread lies. Seek God's truth through prayer and do not lean unto your own understanding. It's thinking like yours were the same as those in Jesus era and look how they crucified him as his teachings didn't make sense to them as they were leaning only on their own understanding. Don't be deceived!!!

neither would Christ be confirming your beliefs since you are a dog born of a female dog who comes centuries later. you are a special kind of stupid.

@shamounian, you're the one barking at me like a chihuahua.

​@shamounian This isn't an argument though, and also why are you disrespecting the man? He brought up a genuine and valid point. I love your channel but honestly how do you justify acting like this towards sincere people.

you don't know what you are talking about so don't chime in.

@shamounian Iam just saying that there is not one scripture in the Bible that implies praying to the Holy Spirit. You just prayed the Lord's Prayer-Our Father who art in Heaven...is this not specifically how Jesus told us to pray?? The Holy Spirit lives in us and has a special job, but if we were to pray to Him, I'm assuming that there would be a record of it in the Bible. To be honest, I'm m kind of surprised by your reply. I just started listening to your debates today. By the way, I've been a Christian my whole adult life, and believe me, I learn something new every day.

​@@dt3675yeah I'm glad to be proven wrong with a scripture but what you said sounds about right to me.

You’re making the mistake of logically evaluating a position on it’s own terms. 😂

yep, he's a liar like Satan.

Hotty Toddy!!!! By the way, Jaxson Dart is a latter day saint so if you hate mormons you hate our football team! Go rebs!!!

Being knowledge isn't arrogant. (Especially when defending your faith).

stop repeating lies and slander and skype me to discuss this live or I will block: benny_malik3

Why does your god have a wife? And are brothers with lucifer? 😂😂

So Jesus being Lucifer's brother sounds right to you?

@@treadstoned9915 did you read Genesis cuz it sounds like you just responding out of a knee-jerk reaction also look up the fall of Lucifer they were there together and if everybody is a child of God therefore brothers just like you and I 🙏

@@armchairarmwrestler7708 I've read Genesis but perhaps you haven't...

@@armchairarmwrestler7708 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

@@armchairarmwrestler7708 or John 1:14? And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. -- John 1:14

skype me to go live to discuss: benny_malik3

Wtf did I just read 🤣🤣 God had a wife? 🤣🤣 and lucifer is our brother? 🤣🤣🤣 get outta here 😂😂😂😂😂

Exactly what I was thinking. This guy really doesn’t represent Mormonism well at all.