TRIAL NOTES: 00:00:00 Judge Dorow Takes the Bench 00:53:49 DEFENSE WITNESS #9 HENRY SPILLER TOXOLOGIST 03:34:16 LUNCH BREAK 04:37:45 CROSS - DEFENSE WITNESS #9 HENRY SPILLER TOXOLOGIST 06:47:06 DEFENSE RESTS 06:58:09 STATE REBUTTAL 06:58:22 STATE REBUTTAL - STATE WITNESS #6 DR. SHERRI KACINKO TOXICOLOGIST NMS LABS 07:12:50 RECESS & JUDGE'S COMMENTS
@Mary200-619 ай бұрын
I love this judge !!!
@Inbetweenthelinesnow9 ай бұрын
I agree! Just wish she would of been that consistent and stern in the Brooks trial.
@Mary200-619 ай бұрын
@@Inbetweenthelinesnow I agree. DB tried to make a mockery out of our justice system! It’s not perfect but it’s the best system in the world!
@Rae_7779 ай бұрын
Attorney Nicolai is also really impressive because she manages to destroy with poise, fairness, and such a comfortable good nature. She’s also wickedly intelligent on her feet and incredibly well-prepared. She’s such a credit to The People, and would make a wonderful judge.
@cortneyrens9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, she’s very organized and knowledgeable, like a Dorrow-in Training I hope she becomes a judge someday
@michaelirwin65689 ай бұрын
Like the commenter above said “I was thinking the same myself” and i couldn’t word it any better! Well said, love how she managed the Toxicologist! “There is no question” now shut it 😂
@MrZombieEater6 ай бұрын
The dickriding is crazy
@lindsayclark64534 ай бұрын
😂😂😂wow I don’t like her, she’s giving arrogant and insincere to me…really not keen.
@Rae_7774 ай бұрын
@@lindsayclark6453 the prosecutor seems arrogant to you? That’s interesting. I can see “insecure” maybe, because she does seem young & Midwestern, but I don’t see a ton of excessive swagger. That’s interesting!
@margmckay32579 ай бұрын
Wow this judge is taking no crap in this case. 👏🧤
@docbailey32659 ай бұрын
I think Darow learned from the Brooks trial.
@juniordixie94899 ай бұрын
I love this judge.
@thejurydoctor60979 ай бұрын
Again poor court reporter enduring being hacked and coughed on by this yutz for hours on end 😂
@BjBeam9 ай бұрын
Spiller did not help the defense at all today! What an arrogant, inappropriate, babbling witness.
@pacificprincess58499 ай бұрын
Just like Jesse
@dawnspeight99419 ай бұрын
AGREED
@tamirevoir15007 ай бұрын
Where did they get this guy
@marugochan1316 ай бұрын
Reading those comments, I'm glad I only watch this trial in x1,75 speed, it'll shorten up the babbling lol
@lindsayclark64534 ай бұрын
I thought he was awesome and VERY knowledgeable…he really showed up the flaws in the State’s case, I don’t see how they can possibly pull out THZ from that huge list of potentially very dangerous drugs as cause of death, which he explained beautifully.
@Dion828664 ай бұрын
Boy, Spiller's ego walked in 5 minutes before HE did!
@roubanashabe34902 ай бұрын
🤣👍🏻
@deew12159 ай бұрын
Lynn’s road to justice is nearing it’s destination. If the jury has witnessed the same case I have, but with the evidence literally in their hands being the difference, I’m confident of the outcome. Kudos to Detective Hoppe & Plennes for being in court (representing all the people in their team & their hard work) for the long haul throughout this trial alongside the prosecution fighting for Lynn & all who truly cared about her.
@user-bt3yf8ob1l9 ай бұрын
I feel like Jessy has been drugging her with eye drops and feeding her pills
@juniordixie94899 ай бұрын
For a long time too.
@francinejones25249 ай бұрын
LMAO 🤣 You think!?
@lindsayclark64534 ай бұрын
No, Lynn clearly loved her downers Xanax and opioids…plus she had a drink problem…this is a lady who had a ‘habit’…highlighted by the fact that nobody wanted to see her towards the end. Jessy took advantage financially but nobody who doesn’t have a drug problem takes that amount of serious medication 💊 she was pissed off they’d stopped her opioids, legalised heroin. That’s evident from her medical records and testimony. Just cause she’s dead doesn’t make her a saint.
@lirpa19819 ай бұрын
6:55:30 this woman knows her stuff and can speak clearly without rambling. She’s incredibly educated.
@cortneyrens9 ай бұрын
Yep, and it made the male Toxicologist look even worse (if that’s even possible) to the jury when she went on the stand right after him, it was refreshing to hear an intelligent, non-rambling-braggy expert testifying the TRUTH
@TheHolyQuran30in306 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@kyliemarie63868 ай бұрын
For Henry spiller to sit on that stand and say some of things he said, knowing thousands of people are going to watch this, such as, I don’t care how many ibuprofen you take, people can/have taken 20 and all you get is a sore stomach, is so careless and dangerous. There are warnings on meds for a reason, for him to contradict that and basically tell people nothing will happen to them, is so unprofessional and dangerous.
@Rae_7772 ай бұрын
And the weird thing is that it’s ABSOLUTELY not true, lol! Especially in a case with strong GI evidence, a substance that commonly causes GI bleeds is such a goofy example of a “benign” substance.
@whatdidyousay21629 ай бұрын
That toxicology "expert" was a complete 🤡. His "jokes" and laissez-faire attitude was so unprofessional and off putting.
@donnafisher62129 ай бұрын
He is in amusing professor mode….and a major know it all.
@Rae_7779 ай бұрын
And kind of creepy & offensive in a way- someone died in this case, and he’s talking about people being poisoned, often to death. It’s not exactly a goofy topic
@bethrozsa35574 ай бұрын
He’s proud of himself, and an idiot!
@bethrozsa35574 ай бұрын
He’s using that head set so he can hear himself better! 😂😂
@Objection_23and19 ай бұрын
The defense team is completely UNHINGED and Im here for it, very entertaining trial. 🥴This toxicologist witness is an absolute weirdo & clearly likes to hear himself talk and keeps going on and on and on. She is asking yes or no and he just keeps talking over her and everyone else.
@chattahuffman51179 ай бұрын
He is a well educated man that is very articulate and paints a picture for the jury that is incredibly easy to understand. He did great.
@kensuzdoer9 ай бұрын
I agree, he did an amazing job in explaining, as a jurist I would find it helpful. The state was degrading to him in the way the cross examined him. He knew his profession and knowledge and experience was apparent. I admire that he didn’t fade away in the states cross like some of the other defense experts did.
@donnafisher62129 ай бұрын
He is used to teaching….telling all they need to know…so he sounds wordy and knowledgeable.
@grneys459 ай бұрын
He he weirdo..I think he blends in well with the two defense attorneys
@commentaryinception9 ай бұрын
Do you happen to have any recommendations for other court tv trials with unhinged defense attorneys?
@psychomike19569 ай бұрын
As I predicted yesterday, when the jury deliberates on Monday, I believe she will be convicted on all 3 counts in less than 4 hours. The only way she could prove herself to be an even lesser example of a human being if she files for disability, claiming she suffers from carpal tunnel syndrome resulting from all checks and loan applications she forged.
@jovicrazed9 ай бұрын
Such a great comment. She is a despicable excuse for a human, indeed.
@Gambler777139 ай бұрын
If she didn't have carpal tunnel at the start of the trial. She will when it's over. I've never seen a defendent write as much as she does.
@user-bt3yf8ob1l9 ай бұрын
I don't know that they proved she killed her, but they proved she's a professional thief and bad person
@kyliemarie63868 ай бұрын
@@user-bt3yf8ob1lshe admitted to at least putting THZ in the bottle once and knowing the bottles that she handed Lynn, had THZ in them. Pair that with the credible witness testimony about THZ being the substance that killed her and all the police interview videos, what more would you need to find her guilty of murder? I feel like there was more evidence in the murder component than the forgery/fraud/theft component.
@areeder53149 ай бұрын
“Found dead and stay dead…” WTF!?!😂
@whatdidyousay21629 ай бұрын
I could NOT believe he said that...i know the State was dying😂😂
@Rae_7779 ай бұрын
Zombie problems 😅
@emeraldoctopusss4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 I was like what, do they usually come back to life?
@Ditters20084 ай бұрын
I missed that! When did that happen? Is it the genius "toxicology expert"?
@emmyemmy86699 ай бұрын
gosh, this witness a super wordy!! he can answer yes/true or agree but he doesn’t just say yes, he talks and talks. i’m not sure if he is racking up his hours (so he gets paid more) or he just loves the sound of his voice… he doesn’t realize, the jury doesn’t want to be listening to super wordy responses when a yes or no is required!!
@grneys459 ай бұрын
People stop listening after awhile
@TheHolyQuran30in306 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I did
@kamakhtar38619 ай бұрын
That man has a nasty cough he s coughing constantly , feel sorry for the typist in front of him , he’s also just of a flight which makes bacteria infection s worse allegedly , shouldn’t he by his own means to be wearing a mask 😷 or be asked to wear one 😬
@BjBeam9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the court reporter couldn't wait to go home and take a shower. Felt sorry for the witness after him. He should have had a mask or at the very least cough into his elbow so his germs weren't aall over his hands. I don't buy that he got that on his short flight from Indiana and it developed so quickly.
@Inbetweenthelinesnow9 ай бұрын
I believe he’s a formal, if not current smoker. May have COPD. I say that only cause I have COPD and stupidly smoke. And cough like that. But yes… out of respect of others, he should of wore a mask.
@kamakhtar38619 ай бұрын
@@BjBeam lol to the judge not wanting to get home to shower, apart from that if anyone has it when court resumes on Monday then the cause & person will be known .
@kamakhtar38619 ай бұрын
@@Inbetweenthelinesnow I’m a smoker to thankfully I don’t get any chest issues unless I come in contact with someone who has a virus : example iv caught bronchitis twice & that was down to a sad event that took place in my life where it was necessary for lots of people to hug me so I’m now wishing I’d have worn a mask to have kept me safe cause it was awful .
@dorrinemirenda68579 ай бұрын
Exactly what I thought! 😂
@CoffeyCup74 ай бұрын
The arrogance and unprofessionalism makes him appear unreliable. Dude is sketchy.
@amybeckers27819 ай бұрын
Jessy just smirks😡 The state is amazing..please please justice for Lynn💕
@dorishenderson29799 ай бұрын
Never trust a professional man who cannot button up his top button and cannot have a neat tie. Want to know how much he is being paid!?
@karieschneider7469 ай бұрын
The guy testified that people who had been drugged with tetrahydrozelene went "in and out". They'd wake up but then kept going back to sleep. Jessie, when interviewed, said that she and Lynn, on that last day, had watched soaps, and Lynn was "going in and out". Interesting coincidence.
@CALIGIRL7022 ай бұрын
ANOTHER CONINCIDENCE IS...JESSY SAID LYNN DID THAT DAILY....HMMM! JESSY THINKS SHES SO SMART..WHEN IN REALITY...IMO SHE HAS DUNNING-KRUGER EFFECT....SHE ABSOLUTELY THINKS SHES ALWAYS RIGHT...AND CANT BE PROVEN WRONG.. WHAT SHE SAYS GOES...AND SHE ABSOLUTELY CANT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER..THATS INDICATIVE IN THE TEXTS BETWEEN HER AND SCOTT WHEN HE TRIED TO BREAK IT OFF WITH HER..
@bethrozsa35574 ай бұрын
What has this man that is so proud of himself even said about this case so far? 🤯
@Leaveit_alone9 ай бұрын
"Poke them with a stick" right Mr.Siller? Disgusting....
@lirpa19819 ай бұрын
Dude was rude and combative with prosecution. This is a guy that is convinced of HIS opinion no matter what data, information, contradictions there may be. He honestly thinks he knows everything. I would bet there are 100 experts that would have a different opinion than his and different from each other. It’s that. Opinion.
@Mary200-619 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. I thought he was smug and arrogant. He was certainly the smartest guy in the room, JUST ASK HIM. LOL
@emmyemmy86699 ай бұрын
it’s off-putting when a person is rude and combative.
@pattikonieczny16919 ай бұрын
His combativeness shows that he is siding with the defense, cuz he doesn't like her ? 'S...He also can't seem to comply with instructions, makes him look bad for the defense...
@chattahuffman51179 ай бұрын
@@pattikonieczny1691You do realize that both sides hire experts to inform/dispute the other side, yes?
@donnafisher62129 ай бұрын
Yes, further defense wasn’t snarky with him as she was with the woman holding the Doctorate in toxicology.
@areeder53149 ай бұрын
This toxicologist guy is very inarticulate and unprofessional.
@lolabear32309 ай бұрын
Attorney nicoli slays .... she will get justice for lynn . 🌹🌹🌹🌹
@Rae_7779 ай бұрын
SLAYS!!!!! ❤
@fireofaries77609 ай бұрын
What did anybody think about the guy, who had nothing good to say about Lynn. He was groomed by Jessie 's Mom. What a POS.😢
@Mary200-619 ай бұрын
I think he believed he was brilliant. Lol
@CatinaMKing9 ай бұрын
Definitely Groomed😂
@Gambler777139 ай бұрын
My I don't trust you meter kicked in fairly quickly. He looked uncomfortable when the Prosecutor was asking him questions. If Jessy is lying about seeing the eyedrops in the garbage can. I don't think it's a big stretch to suggest Jessy and/or Jenny would ask their friend to corroborate seeing them. It's not like he'd have to worry about getting in trouble. There's no way to prove he did or didn't see them.
@MitziHart9 ай бұрын
One Big fat LIAR !! He definitely won’t be seeing that One Grand loaned to Jessy ever again,…. Just another ‘suCker in the life of a Criminal 😆
@francinejones25249 ай бұрын
What an arsehole.
@thejurydoctor60979 ай бұрын
So their toxicology expert specializing in live poisoning and treating live patients in a homicide case involving a dead person 😅😅😅
@dawnspeight99419 ай бұрын
This man is INSUFFERABLE and infuriating….I have no idea how the defense thinks this is helping them.
@dianebaker79889 ай бұрын
He's so unprofessional! What self respecting toxicological uses terms like "these are bad boys"
@jovicrazed9 ай бұрын
Insufferable?
@dawnspeight99419 ай бұрын
@@jovicrazed Yes lol. Thanks. I fixed my typo
@smudge11869 ай бұрын
He thinks he’s the most important person in the room. Seriously, when he said ER nurses get punched in his case I can understand that.
@dorrinemirenda68579 ай бұрын
He's easy to read and just about has a tantrum!!
@Clare_no_dramatic_nonsense_pls9 ай бұрын
OMG the toxicologist really is being difficult with the state. Stopping reading, can't hear, coughing, sniffing. He just looks rediculous. If he acted less defensively he'd come off better.
@bethrozsa35574 ай бұрын
His snorting and coughing and chomping and slurping that cough drops is one my last nerve.
@fischcat9 ай бұрын
The Rebuttal witness took him down a few pegs !
@lirpa19819 ай бұрын
Judge wasn’t having it today and the female prosecutor ( I would not spell her name correct, she’s cute as a button though ) she finally had enough of the defense’s nonsense, mispronouncing names of experts is rude, especially when it’s been pronounced numerous times correctly just moments prior. I just hope the jury can see through the nonsense and keep focus on what’s important.
@BjBeam9 ай бұрын
Was it today (everything is blending together) where the witness referenced Dr. Biedrzycki and the defense attorney said she's not a doctor she just has a PHD? If you have a PHD you are entitled to the title of doctor. I love the prosecutor. I have a feeling working with Sue Opper has had an effect on the way she handles herself in court. I loved when the judge cleared the court and reprimanded the defense.
@prozdrowotny9 ай бұрын
in the meantime the only people pronouncing Kurczewski (almost) right were: male defence attorney and a FBI agent xD
@zahedah809 ай бұрын
Reminds me of Elaine who couldn't pronounce Vasquez correctly after 6 years.
@Clare_no_dramatic_nonsense_pls9 ай бұрын
The only one jibber jabbering is the toxicologist. Using technical terms like "bad boys". Very informative not.
@cortneyrens9 ай бұрын
Exactly lol, he thinks he sounds cool and edgy using his non medical lingo😹 he seemed to think the court was gonna roar with uncontrollable laughter with his “I call those meds the Bad Boyz!”” Also baclofen wasn’t even at a therapeutic level in her system
@ukguy9 ай бұрын
@cortneyrens you think a toxic level, equivalent of 11 to 13 tablets is not even a therapeutic level? Clearly you are watching a different trial.
@brendacapitanoramirez10959 ай бұрын
Witness sitting there waiting on his check 😅
@Mary200-619 ай бұрын
Yep, typical hired hun.
@dimechick9 ай бұрын
Jessy has an extremely hard face. She looks way older than Judge Dorow and she’s over a decade younger. Literally she has a face only a mother could love. She won’t age well in jail, where she deserves to be for her evil deeds. I hope Lynn gets the justice she deserves.
@CALIGIRL702Ай бұрын
She hasn't aged well at all...Prison has no defference...she's always got an ugly narcissistic scowl...like she can't stand NOT being in control..She wanted to talk so bad. Then when she shook her head like a smart ass when the prosecution said.."Ms Kurczewski will have a chance to speak today..." she shook her head (in a smart assy way) like she was going to say something absolutely profound....and then her entire sentencing statement sounded like a toddler that was jealous that they didn't get a candy bar and their siblings did...Jessy is very childish..and has zero self awareness...she also seems to have a bit of Dunning-Kruger effect. Because she certainly thinks she's smarter than everyone else...when in reality, she's a complete i-d-i-o-t that has not only embarrassed herself ENTIRELY, BUT she has embarrassed Scott, his kids and ex wives...Her mother feels no shame....She embarrassed her own self... they're both very much manipulative narcissists
@mindhunter66069 ай бұрын
Ive noticed the detective hs at through the whole case so far, I find that admiral he seems to be there on the victom's behalf. Good on him
@michaelcalland8019 ай бұрын
Both of these Defense attorneys look like Super Villains from a 60’s James Bond movie
@CALIGIRL702Ай бұрын
YES! THEY ABSOLUTELY LOOK LIKE CARTOON CHARACTERS....YES, THE VILLIANS!
@ck-cu7ff9 ай бұрын
Jessy thinks this toxicologist "??" Is doing her soo many favors, I wonder 🤔 if she will have that SMIRK once the guilty verdict falls down around her.......
@tamimoncrief22649 ай бұрын
Spiller is full of himself, arrogant and not credible. The defense atty. Is sneaky and unethical. Disorganized mess
@cortneyrens9 ай бұрын
Agreed, and his annoyingness/incompetence/rambling braggy irrelevant info is even more apparent when the smart organized toxicologist is brought back on the stand. Also I love how he rambles on even more AFTER judge admonished him, AND mentioned that she had to do it at a pretrial too! He just can’t stop himself 🤦♀️
@tamischroeder65499 ай бұрын
Henry is rude, combative, disrespectful, and acts like an obstinate child argue with his parents rule.
@CALIGIRL702Ай бұрын
He and Jessy could be related...They both love to hear themselves talk, they both want to be in control, they're both full of self love...and they both are full of Dunning-Kruger effect...I've never seen someone like to talk as much as Jessy, except for Henry Spiller......oh and Donne Kuchler
@ElizabethGrindon9 ай бұрын
Good catch on the State's part that toxicology witness left the space blank for interventions on the toddler when in fact he had ended up on a ventilator in ICU.
@cortneyrens9 ай бұрын
According to him, the kid “was just fine, you just have to poke them with a stick if they stop breathing” and being in the ICU ventilated not even worth of making the list 😹so glad the state put the intelligent Tox back on the stand
@ElizabethGrindon9 ай бұрын
@@cortneyrens Oh, is that where he made that remark about poking them with a stick?!! Geez. Yes, she really shone next to the Defense's tox witness!
@michaelcalland8019 ай бұрын
@@cortneyrens Right..” They all wake up eventually “… He’s saying you can drink a gallon of Visine & it might make you a little wobbly, & yeah your respiratory system might shut down, but you just have to give em a hard poke in the ribs & they snap right out of it. In fact He wrote a paper on it in 04’. “ Stick resuscitation method in Eye Drop OD’s “ By Henry Spiller
@waypay19 ай бұрын
@@michaelcalland801He also said you can take 200 ibuprofen and nothing will happen. 🤦♀️
@michaelcalland8019 ай бұрын
@@waypay1 Lol…I heard that. I think his professional option is…” You need the giant Costco size bottle “ to do damage ! Lol
@goose75749 ай бұрын
4:57:55 It's VERY difficult to calculate the number of tablets somebody took, because some people's bodies breakdown medication differently. I'm shocked that this guy thinks that this shows strong evidence of a particular number of pills taken.
@goose75749 ай бұрын
5:13:34
@dorrinemirenda68579 ай бұрын
Yes. I have a slow metabolism due to hypothyroidism.
@margmckay32579 ай бұрын
Oh the judge is getting tetchy with the Defence now😼
@bethrozsa35574 ай бұрын
This man chomping on this cough drop is on my last nerve. He could just keep it in his cheek quietly instead of smacking it.
@hollyjolly20664 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@michaelcalland8019 ай бұрын
Where did they fly this guy in from ? The “ I’ll testify to anything for the right price “ School of Toxicology?
@dorishenderson29799 ай бұрын
Every defence witness is a clone of Jessy. She may be smirking during this time, however, goodbye Jessy.
@KeepSmyelin3214 ай бұрын
So easy to spot a narcissist once they're on a witness stand 🤦♀️
@CALIGIRL702Ай бұрын
There's threw sitting at the defense table also....one one in the gallery...Jennifer Flower
@cateellington40819 ай бұрын
How the defense thinks this toxicologist who’s far more interested in talking about his incredible knowledge (😅yes I’m joking) on how the body works & getting way off topic on case specific helps this defense I don’t know. Dude’s gots a monumental ego and is weird & is boring beyond belief. This defense team hasn’t got a clue.
@bethrozsa35574 ай бұрын
Totally annoying and so very proud of himself. It has been a waste of time this far with this guy. He just thinks he’s smart.🙄
@daniellep68079 ай бұрын
“With that we’ll bring the jury back out” “I haven’t called for them yet”. “I did not”
@commentaryinception9 ай бұрын
Ahhhhh!! It’s so annoying. The defense attorney claiming that the state said something about that ibuprofen exhibit being discussed during a lunch break is false. The state’s attorney said “after you told the jury X, (the defense attorney) showed you this paper you wrote”…. She didn’t say anything about something being shown or discussed during a break. Annoying!!!!
@dorishenderson29799 ай бұрын
He mentions an example about a 'duck' Well this man is sure a duck too!
@dee3989 ай бұрын
The judge reminds me of Veronica Hamel, from hill street blues series 😊
@guardiana859 ай бұрын
Seems like the defense toxicologist tries to make himself sound more important than he really is. 🤣🤣🤣
@roxanaalnatour59169 ай бұрын
5:43:22 go judge!!! The female defense lawyer is crass, uncouth and simply rude
@francinejones25249 ай бұрын
How does one become super intelligent like Judge Dorow?🤔 I wish I was her 😒 sigh …
@dorishenderson29799 ай бұрын
Defence witness really does not like the prosecution lawyer asking questions which shows him up in his replies.
@junediston90689 ай бұрын
This witness is a 🤡…. Full of self importance
@cjf8889 ай бұрын
The toxicologist acts like that crazy Dr Spiegel from the Depp trial lol.
@myroselle69879 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing..oh my goodness that was funny. “Does Willy Wonka mean nothing to you?” The looks on Johnnys and Bens faces were priceless when he was making those weird faces….
@dee3989 ай бұрын
He is so full of himself 😮
@stevewest1149 ай бұрын
We object because it's devastating to our case!!!
@tmm9196a8 ай бұрын
Why did Spiller get to testify without the defense asking questions?
@Gambler777139 ай бұрын
Defense lawyer Kuchler trying more shenanigans today. She knows better. She's been around the block a few times. She must own some or part of the law firm she works for because her's and her sons names are on it. Jessy's other lawyer Pablo Galaviz is also well experienced. He also has his name on the Law Firm he works. For almost 30 years he was a Prosecutor in the Waukesha District Attorneys Office. At first I thought the pair may have been husband and wife.
@Inbetweenthelinesnow9 ай бұрын
We’re they court appointed? I can’t see them being paid by her. Well by Lynne actually.
@isabelamilano20959 ай бұрын
No, Donna and Pablo are not married. She was married to Gerry for over 30 years, who recently passed. They were partners at the firm.
@Gambler777139 ай бұрын
@@isabelamilano2095 I wonder why she didn't have someone from her own law firm work with her on the case. I read somewhere these are her third lawyers.
@CALIGIRL702Ай бұрын
@@Gambler77713More like 8....
@donnachampion31699 ай бұрын
Found dead and stay dead 🤓 what a witness 🙄
@michaelcalland8019 ай бұрын
The Defense Toxicologist is saying that Lynn really didn’t OD from visine as it’s impossible. Even in enormous doses all it does is knock you out. That all EMTs had to do was poke her with a stick & she would’ve snapped right out of it.
@dawnspeight99419 ай бұрын
He’s clearly just argumentative, rude, arrogant, and thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room. Loves to hear himself talk.
@aliamacintyre4839 ай бұрын
Hmm.. interesting. Definitely food for thought.
@kellylafferty8529 ай бұрын
He didnt seem any of those things. He was trying to inform the court of issues between the type of meds lynn was taking and amounts and what side effects can happen when taking combined meds and amounts. Exactly what he was saying about statistical trickery, the whole prosecution was trucking. the prosecutor doesnt want some things given to the jury. I think he did a great job of giving the reasonable doubt. Yeah jessy should be charged in stealing money. But if someone is going to take them out, theg will find a way and will to do it. Lynn was in bad shape, depressed, money was stolen so in debt, but i dont think she is guilty of murder. :/
@michaelcalland8019 ай бұрын
@@kellylafferty852 The only statistical trickery used was by him when he used post mortem blood in his analysis which is strictly forbidden by Toxicology & Forensic associations. But Dr “ Poke em with a stick” doesn't follow those recommendations as he’s “ Not a member”. He’s obviously a professional paid witness that’ll testify for the highest bidder .
@tamirevoir15007 ай бұрын
Him being apart of the Colorado case for the defense is very suspicious
@goldiegolden22549 ай бұрын
All this talk about medications is very difficult to understand and I doubt the jury will remember much about it during deliberations
@junehanzawa51659 ай бұрын
What an evil woman. I hope she gets life without parole. Older people out there should really be on the lookout for predators like these.
@psychomike19569 ай бұрын
Up until now I thought that Jeffrey Dahmer was the worst in humanity that Wisconsin had to offer but having watched this trial from day one I honestly believe that Jessy Kurczewski is a worse example of how low someone can sink when motivated by greed. When caught, Dahmer owned up to what he did and showed genuine remorse. When faced with damning evidence of wrongdoing, Kurczewski doubled down and lied to the very end. She thought she was smarter than those around her and could lie her way clear of responsibility. This case was truly sad.
@lorigreen41349 ай бұрын
Did you forget about Darrell Brooks?
@waypay19 ай бұрын
Chandler Halderson and Ed Gein were worse.
@julesbuscho20639 ай бұрын
Ed Gein, buddy.
@isabelamilano20959 ай бұрын
Ummm .....and Taylor Schabusiness.
@waypay19 ай бұрын
@@isabelamilano2095Definitely!
@juniordixie94899 ай бұрын
Wow. He’s not even a MD.
@STLforEVER9 ай бұрын
So, when Lynn was sick and unable to get her meds? Was Jesse getting them to her or what? And if she was the one getting her meds, were they tampered with by any chance? A lot of people had access to her house. I wonder who else, from Lynn's circle, was prescribed these opioid.
@ashlynann81699 ай бұрын
I’d respectively , vote for both the states detectives to do a calendar. At their desk, and buy every single one. 😂😅😊 Wives/significant others, have some very handsome grizzly men.
@pattysawicki96079 ай бұрын
Cover your mouth dude
@juniordixie94899 ай бұрын
My first thought
@jodydarby9 ай бұрын
This witness is so off-putting-almost as much as the defendant. I truly wish she had testified.
@cortneyrens9 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing! So far, many of defenses witnesses have been more beneficial to the State, with their annoyingness and incompetence
@jodydarby9 ай бұрын
@@cortneyrens Exactly. They’ve been as unlikeable as the attorneys. Hopefully the jury will be quick.
@Sunnie771099 ай бұрын
The Defense attorney seemed like she was trying for a mistrial today or a future Appeal . Also Spiller was there just to testify not to indicate he was a Defense witness and he wanted them to win the case, not professional in any way . This woman Jessy Kurczewski in my opinion, is guilty without a doubt !
@weld3z9 ай бұрын
Seriously !! 😂
@noraparejo76739 ай бұрын
Totally agree 👍 @sunnie
@Inbetweenthelinesnow9 ай бұрын
Oh she definitely wanted a mistrial. But I think they were already knew they’d be going for an appeal. After all the financial evidence from the state played out.
@tamimoncrief22649 ай бұрын
Absolutely. As a side note, the defense woman atty. smiles creepily at inappropriate times. Unprofessional
@tootsie0078 ай бұрын
Attorney Nikolai is an absolute rock star
@cyndilagasse9919 ай бұрын
i would have never known that 38,000 poison cases is a lot if turtle lady didn't tell me or that 6000 cases a year is more than 1 case a day
@Rae_7772 ай бұрын
This call center operator (who thinks he’s a doctor??) is like that one uncle we all have, who barely graduated high school and drives a truck for a living, but one time he hauled aluminum screws that could be used by aircraft manufacturers, and so now he brags without stopping about the fact that he’s a NASA rocket scientist.
@TeaSpiracy9 ай бұрын
2:26:11 That's got to be her Mother, Jennifer Flower, to left of the screen behind her. I believe, after reading the criminal complaint and seeing things that didnt make it into evidence, that Jessys mom had to have known at least some of what was happening
@@hollyjolly2066 Idk how much of this you've watched, but this case only gets wilder. I just watched her two sentencing dates (the first one had to be postponed bc she wrote some crazy letter trying to fabricate evidence) but this case is WILD.
@TeaSpiracy3 ай бұрын
@@hollyjolly2066 maybe her eyes are dry. Maybe she needs some eye drops 🤔
@pamdsp479 ай бұрын
At roughly 5:48:00 I seemed to experience an unsettling de-ja vu of yes, Duh-rell Brooks. At certain points in the admonition it was almost verbatim. I don’t know if it’s the judge’s manner of speaking or the defense attorney having Brooks’ traits.
@cyndilagasse9919 ай бұрын
i said the same- its brooks with a law degree
@DezluD9 ай бұрын
I wanted her blabbing on the stand lol
@dorishenderson29799 ай бұрын
Has someone taken Jessy's pen from her. She appears to only be turning to the left, hope she does not hurt her neck! Pity this is not a death penalty trial.
@jessicawilkinson61734 ай бұрын
Sorry if I messed it but why is the witness wearing earphones ? Is he listening to something while testifying ?
@hollyjolly20664 ай бұрын
He flew in from out of state, and his ears clogged up due to the combination of the flight and the cold. Yikes...
@zahedah809 ай бұрын
Why are they not standing daring questioning?
@danilynn.3 ай бұрын
What why and how is jessy able to use their computer? What is she doing on it?
@Jessypardon9 ай бұрын
This toxicologist dude is 69? What?? , he looks 40!
@zahedah809 ай бұрын
The defense has failed to make a single point for me.
@hollyjolly20664 ай бұрын
What about a double point? Not all points are unmarried and seeking. 😆
@Inbetweenthelinesnow9 ай бұрын
I was 99% sure last week she was guilty of all crimes. Now? Thinking she’ll get off on the murder charge. But DEFINITELY should be guilty on the financial charges!
@ukguy9 ай бұрын
I think she may be found guilty of the lesser charge, but I don't think the prosecution has proved beyond reasonable doubt in the other charges.
@tracieproctor21679 ай бұрын
She wont get off on the murder charge because there is motive there. Also she said that she drank visine herself way before the police knew that lynn had visine in her system they 😢asked jessy how she felt and she said sick in the stomach which is a lie the symptoms are far worse jessy has bought herself undone she is guilty of murder.
@ukguy9 ай бұрын
@@tracieproctor2167 what is the motive? I don't believe it could be financial as Lynn had no money and many credit cards maxed out at the time of her death.
@tracieproctor21679 ай бұрын
@@ukguylynn had the money from her mothers inheritance untill jessy started forging cheques fromlynns accounts lynn never owned a credit card ,jessy got them using lynns id and forged her signature,the well was almost dry when jessy killed lynn so there was plenty of motive ,greed for money .
@user-bt3yf8ob1l9 ай бұрын
The motive is Lynn was about to find out that Jessy blew all her money.
@garywaters16729 ай бұрын
Why cant he just say yes or no and don't add the rest he has to hear him self talk
@juniordixie94899 ай бұрын
He thinks he’s teaching his residents and not at a trial.
@marugochan1316 ай бұрын
Lordy lordy, this toxicologist talks too much. It's like the only will to live he's got, if he doesn't talk he isn't alive. Feels like he was more there for his own promo and whatever he does in Colorado than a witness in a court which uses time and tax payers' money, especially when it's the homestretch before the jury decides on the case.
@emmamcqueen2279 ай бұрын
And I know who I believe more between spiller spilling his knowledge and doesn’t shurrup and Dr kasinco- what another inspiring woman! (Apologies for spelling of her name🫣)
@tracieproctor21679 ай бұрын
The court should have made this coughing dude to talk via zoom
@karolinagowala18429 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain to me why they keep saying "judge" instead of "your honor"?
@django12524 ай бұрын
Because she is a judge, d*ummy
@roxanaalnatour59169 ай бұрын
6:47:35 love this expert ❤ Doctor vs Mr Spiller, and we already know who wins 🏆 😉
@juniordixie94899 ай бұрын
She’s guilty a sin.
@Leaveit_alone9 ай бұрын
He can't even pronounce alprazolam correctly.
@emmyemmy86699 ай бұрын
googlescholar sounds very similar to wikipedia- is often inaccurate and shouldn’t be used as fact…. plus, if the author is young or just starting to write papers, his/her number of papers will be low. fact is, the paper is peer reviewed, published paper.
@CuddleSnugglesworth9 ай бұрын
Dude Holy God Bless America your live chat could not collectively change a lightbulb and keep continuously misusing the word "bias(ed)" ... I know some people retire... but I mean... there are a lot of Disability Americans that have the time of day to sit in that chat, at this time of day, all day. So, there's that
@haystakfan19 ай бұрын
How can a date grape drug not be harmful to children that ingest it?
@Bee-W9 ай бұрын
Whenever I hear a witness like him. Mr. I know everything, i watch with the volume off. They are so much easier to read. This one, ha' his arms are flailing at times when he's talking and is constantly licking his lips. And his eyes are wild! I bet he's on something.
@TheFireOne229 ай бұрын
So all this take about this chemical being in Visine eye drops made me curious because I use visine… I read everything on the new box I have and NO where in the active or inactive ingredients listed was this one in the case listed… Makes me wonder, Why?? Shouldn’t it be listed?? Was is actually visine the defense witness seen in the garbage or a different brand??