The first try looked forward - but the angle on the replay shows it clearly wasnt forward - both tries were good - so well done South Africa

Everyone seems to forget that Bongi Mbonambi and Lood de Jager went off injured in the first half aswell. All this talk about "what if Kyle Sinckler didn't get injured blah blah blah" South Africa had it as bad as England, if not worse!

It is not SA's fault that Ireland and Scotland couldnt top their pool. Also it wasnt their fault that they were drawn with NZ. Remember Ireland and Wales were ranked number one before the WC. So to mention that England had the tougher route that is something that the organisers should sought out for the future. Also remember England played a game less coming into the quarter final. Had England won Im sure O Gara would not be so negative. Disappointed in his comments.

Well done bokkes great win from a kiwi fan,your boys played for you yesterday ,awesome.Not sure why ogaras salty,thats the problem with the north hemisphere media,no humility always an excuse!!!2much SA

Disgusting analysis, "The other winger" is where I stopped.

Pathetic analysis from O'Gara, he should be ashamed of himself for even stooping so low as to suggest they should have cheated(by faking an injuring to a prop) to win. Disgraceful!

Absolutely was not a forward pass - I've watched it a dozen times.

R. O'Gara, say it with me: Ma-Pim-Pi. See? Easy. "The other winger"... That's as disrespectful as it is unprofessional.

1. The pass wasn't forward. 2. England's scrum had already been rocked before Sinclair went off. 3. South Africa were dominant all over the pitch. 4. Gatland called it, England played their final a week early.

A most unpleasant analysis by ROG He literally tried to find any way to discredit the bok victory, from forward passes, to missed yellow cards, an easy route to the final etc etc He even advocated that England fake scrum injuries to get uncontested scrums. He has no credibility as an analyst anymore. Unable to name our wings, two of the best in the world. South Africa would have beaten whomever we played yesterday but ROG is too graceless to admit it. Shame on him.

This guy is in mourning. Its going to be a looooong 4 years for him.

"The try from the other winger" I stopped the video right there.

"New Zealand has the measure of South Africa?" Sure about that? Last I checked the only team to beat NZ in NZ for how long now is South Africa. Also, before the world cup loss to NZ the Boks hadn't lost to the ABs in 2 games? Soooooooo, a bit more credit to the Boks is probably due.

Ronan,.we.havent forgotten that you lost the Lions the series in 09,missing the tackle to let Fourie score 5min from time, and then giving away the final penalty. Thanks mate

The world needs to give England a medal for winning against the All Blacks🏅. They just can't believe how they can beat the AB's and it does not count for anything

O'Gara still salty about getting smashed by Jaques Fourie and giving away a series-losing penalty to the Boks in 2009.

Under rubbish analysis.

I was really looking forward to the Irish analysis which is the best in the world. So disappointed that Ireland can’t accept defeat

ronan should know the names of the boks players

I am taken aback by the consistent post final commentary indicating how unlucky England were. Would encourage Ronan to view the SA missed opportunities and the momentum shift scenarios in the same light as he has for England. Johnny May (albeit amazing athleticism) jumping from the touch line to tap the Pollard penalty back - should have been a SA line out 10m from the line. What then? How about the penalty in favor for SA in the first half which the ref played very little advantage for and no score came from it. And finally, would love to see some commentary on the visibly very poor sportsmanship at the end, where Farrell and Jones provided no congrats to SA in their post match de-briefs. Take a leaf from NZ’s professionalism. Well done to SA. To our boys from our proud provinces - we’ll get back up there and look back at this stage and realize the pain was worth it.

Fascinating to see O'Gara do his best not to give SA any credit whatsoever while still saying they did well.

Why do the Irish hate South Africa so much ? England literally had an extra day of rest and played one game less. That sounds like an easier route to me

The other winger, the other winger seriously.

Not sure why Ronan sounds more bitter than the English. England had one phase of dominant play in the entire 80mins, they were outclassed. Not just on the day, England playing the way they did would never beat a Bok team that make that few errors.

Luck of the draw? SA beat the team of the tournament in the final did they not? Beat the Six Nation champs too! Would have beaten NZ in the final the way they played.

It's always entertaining to watch salty analysts. 😂😂😂 Especially if they're from the Northern Hemisphere....😁

Really please Sth Africa won! The Northern Hemisphere have all the money and resources at there disposal- the but the Southern hemisphere continues to dominate!

Look again Mr O'Gara, there were no forward passes in any of the tries.

Ronans analysis is pretty good but one penalty 5 meters out in 21 phases is never a yellow card and to even suggest that is ridiculous. If they had given away 3 penalties sure then there is a question but no ref in history has ever given yellow for one penalty 5 meters out unless it clearly prevented a try which was not the case here. Also, on field decision was a try, there was no way anyone can say for sure that pass was forward, it looked flat and there was no way in hell any ref was going to overturn a 50/50 call. The try was fair.

Forward pass!!! Are you kidding me Ronan, used to have great respect for you, your opinion is silly on that. Open them eyes please.

Rather salty! Erasmus managed his squad better over the tournament, which is why we were physically and mentally sharper. The game management of the Springboks was fantastic. We were on the front foot throughout the whole match. Eddie Jones and the world expected us to play one dimensional box kicks but that wasn’t the case. England had no Plan B! Even if they did the boks defense would have brushed that aside anyway.

ROG i love you to bits, but what did they feed you on that plane from France?

Disappointing review by ROG. It seems England lost it not SA won it. SA won it comprehensively, they made their own luck and they bossed England all day.

What's more ludicrous with this summation is that Felix Jones is a compatriot in the Boks coach staff... you'd have thought there would be a different "bias" considering a great moment for one of O'Gara's own, in. Final where there was no other Irishman in sight.🤷🏻‍♂️

50/50 call that pass. Every WC final has its controversy. Fact is at half time the score flattered England. Best team in the day won.

Salty O'Gara. I thought better of the guy. ☘️ This is just distasteful.

It wasn't a forward pass, and even if it was disallowed, the pommies wouldn't have won. They were losing the choke.

And how many World cups have O'gara/Ireland won?Never even won a World cup knockout match,but great poolstage rugby playing nation.

Let's break it down for O'Gara, cause for a so called "rugby legend" he has lost my respect. 1.Japan beat Ireland and Scotland, and were a much better team than what Ireland was this world cup Ronan is salty because Ireland lost to Japan. SA know how that feels Wales was just as hard if not the harder game of the two semi-finals. More tackles, both forward dominant. SA had less time between that and the final. Meaning a full 24hours extra Eng had to recover. 2.England had it easy, Australia is horrible this year, not sure why they think that was a hard game. They missed one pool game that should've been a tough one, that's an extra 80minutes your players don't have to get battered and bruised. Yes NZ was a tough one but in terms of who had the better run, England had that. 3.That pass was referred, not as if the ref ignored it. It went back from the hands, take it up with world rugby and the TMO. 4. Owen Farell missed one kick, don't act like he would have should've, could've converted a conversion if he had one. 5. That was ONE penalty in 10 minutes, how the F**K is that a yellow card? England just couldn't break the SA defense. Which for the day was 92%, unheard of for ANY team in a worldcup final. In any case, Jerome tried to give the try to england but they couldn't get through, usually that advantage lasts 5minutes max then the ref gives the penalty and stops play. But he tried really hard to keep the game flowing for England which is awesome. We love seeing advantage being played. 6. England were under pressure the whole time. Making silly mistakes. Ford was nowhere this game. Kolisi had Curry's number and Curry was counter rucked by him at every ruck. 7. Can't believe O'Gara would advocate for uncontested scrums. That's why he wasn't a world cup winner especially with that mindset. 8. If England had something to complain about, it was one scrums where Kitsoff had his arm on the ground. But they lost a prop, South Africa lost a hooker and a lock early on. If England were smarter, they'd know that Marx' lineout throws arent always the best, so they would've switched to their tactical kicking game where Ford is so good at, but they tried to kick onto Willie. 9. Don't even get me started on how he didn't even know how to say Mapimpi. Really not that hard. Has the same amount of syllables than his own name. 10. South Africa's record with Garces I believe is 12 times reffed, 3 times won. Something like that. South Africa didn't just hang on, they were doing pullups with the english around their legs from the get go. So salty all my respect lost for this man.

Sad ogara does not do himself credit with this interview... Even as a neutral the pass was flat and out of hand it was back from the top view.... Boks quarter was to be ire and wales semi... But ire lost to Japan... Intimating Japan and Wales is weeker route... Aus was terrible in rugby championchip... Record loses to abs and boks... And they were dire this rwc... Eng only real opposition was nz in semi as they didn't even play France due to cancelation.... He'll I'm not even going to go into the make believe cards....

Matt Dawson not 1 south Africa player gets in the England team so much arragonce

England had an extra day off (the game against France was canceled) and England had a 7 day break after NZ and SA only had 6 days off. No excuses England, you got thumped.

Even New Zealand have never needed to beat New Zealand to win the RWC

The Springbok defence is the BEST in the world!!!

Poor poor analysis!

Great teams can back up week after week, England can't. This guy doesn't know history, England are lucky they didn't play ABs again the following week because its hard beating a ABs team coming off a loss, just look at Wales game. ABs remember there loses, so I know the next time the ABs play England, ABs are going to smash them.

South Africa were holding back the whole world cup it seems. They played a kicking game to force penalties on their aponents through pressure and played mainly with their forwards. They knew their defense was good enough to support this style of play. The ball barely ever went out to their backline which was pretty upsetting giving the amount of dangerous attacking runners they have. Its almost like they played the same predictable game all tournament long just to change their style completely in the final. One almost wonders if it was planned or on purpose. England surely didn't see it coming. Either way, i think South Africa completely outplayed England and probably would have beaten any other team the way they played on Saturday. They played to their strengths and were the best version of themselves on the day.

Ronan grow up. England has one of the better sides they’ve had in a long time, but one game to far. They were outplayed on the night, and that can happen to any of the top teams. Sinclair would have left with broken ribs after the second scrum anyway. In his playing days Ronan looked pretty bright, but clearly not the case!Never thought the Ireland were bad losers,but after that bs interview I’ve been mistaken all along.Sad to see that from a once great player.

Forward pass ?

Have to say the the Irish pundits look like they have a issue with the Boks, ROG calling that pass forward despite the Ref, TMO, and the majority of neutrals seeing it otherwise. ROG's belief that there should have been a yellow against the Boks, etc. Here are a few things that I saw that went unpunished by the Ref. Kolbe was high tackled around the neck. English players entering from the side on a few Bok mauls. Short lineout throwin not straight by the English. England also guilty of pushing the boundaries at the breakdown. Agree that in the end it balances out but ROG chooses focus on those in favour of the Boks. This may have something to do with the last Lions tour to SA when Irish players where so dominant in that squad yet the Lions lost the series

Wow Ronan can chat a whole lot of bs;the pass was not forward and Sinclair would of made no difference to the result at the end of the day;the better team won;and very disrespectful of the English players for not wearing their silver medals;have some dignity

A humble pie.

Wait? So first you say it was easier for SA, then you say Japan was one of the 3 stand out teams, who SA beat along with England, who SA also beat...GTFO

when the ball is released backwards out the hands it can't be a forward pass it was flat and not obviously a forward pass also the ref had called the try so you have to be 100% sure there is an infringmet before and a flat pass is not 100%

"If you take away all the Springboks' scrum penalties, and if their first try was called back for a forward pass that nobody else thinks was forward, and Kyle Sinckler didn't get injured, and Duane Vermeuelen was unnecessarily yellow carded, and South Africa had played the All Blacks in the semifinal... then the second try wouldn't have been scored and England would have deservedly won."

EXCUSES, EXCUSES, EXCUSES.

I'm think he should take another look at that "forward pass". World rugby needs to make refs worldwide to ref in the same manner in every league. Game could have been different with Sinckler but even tho Cole is old, he lost a scrum right at the beginning of the game before he would have been tired.

Boks played Japan, who topped their pool. Played Wales as well... How is that easy???

Ronan, you saw a farward pass in the lead up to Mapimpi's try, but the TMO didn't. The TMO also has better access to the angles than any viewer does. You are the first person I heard who thinks that try should not have counted. It's in the record books now though.

This is nonsense lol

He doesn’t look too bright, does he?

Also, they forget that SA won the Rugby championship. But again, like some of the players' names, they don't seem to know that.

Rugby is simple and always was if your team especially the pack is bigger more aggressive than the other pack your always in a good position to win.

Nice to hear an Irishman supporting England

Excusses again 2007 was the same thing. You thought England would walk all pve South africa but you were suprised

Forward pass? Yellow card? Honestly nonsense, and even if those were given Boks were so much better on the day and would have beaten anyone with that kind of performance. You don't win a final by 20 points because of a ref.

I agree, as an England supporter, that it seemed over after 3 minutes when Sinckler went off.

Taking notes 📝

The aerial shot shows that the pass to Mpimp was possibly forward, but the ground shot from the right shows it is clealy not forward. See it in this link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ja-Zhq2ZvdvIZ3U.html

If you said to me SA were gonna win the world Cup a year ago I would of laughed

I’ve praised O’Gara’s analysis this WC but he has it so wrong here. Any praise for the Boks is given with gritted teeth. Pity.

England were outplayed in every facet of the game yet you sit here seeking mitigating factors for their 20pt hiding. Springboks are world class, South Africa is world class 🏆

Lol The other winger contributed a total of 6 tries in this world cup.

After watching that I am down to the printers to get my justice 4 Duncan McRae t-shirts made

6 point game, 15min to go like it was going to achieve something the 26 phases with the eternal penalty advantage couldn't.

The Boks have gone Bok 2 Bok, two weeks ago from Paris. I wonder what O Gara has to say now in 2023...🇿🇦🇿🇦🏆🏆🏆🏆🤜🤛🇿🇦

I'm late to this but what an incredibly salty interview from O'gara. Interviewer, "that was some defence from SA keeping out England for 25 odd phases" O'gara, "in super rugby that's a yellow card for cynical play" Then suggests England should have cynically faked a prop injury. Then he cant dignify Mapimpi and Am by learning their names, all while wearing the face of a man grieving at a wake! Lol

So, R. O'Gara: Won't pass judgment on the scrum, because you're not a forwards coach. What gives you the authority to dispute the TMO decision?

England gets a bye and more rest and still not up for the finals, remember South Africa played NZ as an opener and also had injuries. No excuses, on the day South Africa was better by a mile, We never claim to be the best in the world, but for that final South Africa came ready and had England number. When England beat NZ no one said NZ was rubbish, they said England was great, but South Africa beats England and England gave it to South Africa, that is such poor taste. Come on guys, we could of scrummed all day for 3 points and also dominated the line-outs, but instead South Africa came ready to play and win. So the referee and the touch judges and the TMO all miss a forward pass. This is rubbish, England was out played, be gracious in defeat, learn from NZ in that regard. These comments diminishes a great match, England is a great team and that was not their day, their coach and team did wonderful and respect to them but South Africa played Wales which was ranked number 1 in the world, played a Japan that beat Scotland and Ireland so how can you say they had an easy road. There is no easy road to lift the Webb Ellis Cup. Either-way if they are as good as we all know they are then in 4 years they will be dominant and I feel sorry whom ever must play them.

O'Gara. You a chop!

Vermeulen wasn't the one penalised. It was the Beast for not rolling away. Numpties.

For an ex professional player he's quite naive. No sour grapes at all hey. Grow up dude! Amazing you're still looking to blame the ref for South Africa's dominance.

Say what you want, but the best part is Rassie basically build his team in less than two years. The Bokke are great, they are my team. But to be honest, there is always a hype arround Ireland before the world cup. When the time is there, nothing happens

South Africans love O'Gara. He won us the 2009 Lions series. 😂😂😂

mate, Sinclair was sick in the change room before the match. watch the tape. he was next to a bin looking lik he wanted to spew

@OffTheBall maybe next time get an analyst that actually knows the names of the players..... maybe that will give a little more credit to his so called expertise.

Everyone is allowed an opinion. Mine is simple. Japan had monster wins, and England's win was truely brilliant. The cherry on the cake was the Boks bringing a fantastic tournament to an end.

ROG: 'none of us are scrum experts' sitting next to a 'scrum nerd'? Whoops.

Ok Ronan, so now what's your beef?🇿🇦🏆🏆🏆🏆

That ball was not forward, go watch, new footage available, sour sour sour...

tiaran 100% correct, If you look at the try from the right side shot, it was clearly a perfectly good pass. Also regards England's so called difficult route the final, would England have automatically beaten Japan and Wales if they where on the South African path?

The other commentator without the beard is a winey baby, except the fact that you where beaten by the best team in the world.

The ‘other winger’ and pass from the ‘13’. Just lost it there and stopped watching this pathetic attempt at an analysis

Got a lot of time for O'Gara's rugby wisdom but I think England would have prefered to play Australia rather than Wales in the Quarters. South Africa had Japan because Japan beat Ireland, and beat Ireland well. Wales pushed South Africa all the way, because that's what Wales do even when they're evidently not the better team. It seems to be always a case of saying South Africa underperformed against Wales and then performed against England, there seems to never be any credit for the fact that Wales were just a drop kick and 10 minutes aways from winning that match. A match where Wales had to contend with the 'bomb squad' and had half of their first choice pack unavailable. Will anybody ever give Wales credit instead of classing them as lucky or that their opponents underperformed? I doubt it (smile).

These guys forget that the springbok squad 10 years ago had a more consistent record. Back then we only lost to England once in 10 years, gave NZ a hammering from time to time, and never lost to Italy. They are still not at their peak. If you watch the tri-nations game against NZ in 2009, you will see just how good they can really be. SA are always hard to dominate, even when you are leading.

TMO on the 1st try: nothing clear &obvious, stand with your on field decision ME: clearly the ref, tmo didn't think it was forward hence deciding to award the TRY

no forward pass

I read the comments while I started watching and then decided to quit watching .... sour grapes

We lost a player in the front row also... Wthe mistake England made was to challenge SA physically... Ypur boys can be big but they not aggressive and physical.. Raw power boys dont be bittee

Oh dear.