Here’s where we’re going. The prosecution has stopped prosecuting Karen, they are now a defense team, defending the Alberts. 🤷🏽‍♀️

11 days and soon 30 witnesses in, we haven't even established that the victim was actually hit by a car. How was this case even charged?

Just joining the rewatch crew on this morning’s testimony now, but at this point after watching all the previous court days, I don’t know anything about poor John’s death beyond a reasonable doubt … but I 100% know it was snowing, the Boston Murdaughs had built and owned that home for two generations and then inexplicably sold it, people sitting up in bed for hours doing nothing in the middle of the night while also having (but not suffering with) migraines isn’t odd, people are often being intimate on top of their unlocked phones and reading glasses and somehow not breaking them (but also butt dialing), and donut deliveries in a blizzard aren’t unusual at all… just leave them in an unlocked car. It’s fine. They won’t become cold or stale or anything. Red solo cups are acceptable containers for blood evidence gathering- they seem sterile enough. Missed calls can answer themselves, early morning missed calls don’t cause alarm, and there’s no reason to walk outside if you see multiple police vehicles and an ambulance in your front yard when you wake up. It’s no big deal. This case is incredibly odd and honestly unbelievable.

I’m honestly scared for the residents of this police department! The corruption is thick

“No more of course” “Of course, your honor.” This is the equivalent of saying “I’m sorry” to someone who tells you to stop apologizing so much. 😂

I have never heard so much memory failure until this trial. The minute a question feels threatening, all memory goes out the window.

I have 2 theories about Tristan. 1 because he was never interviewed he really doesn't remember much about that night as it's never been fresh in his mind from questioning. Or 2. He knows something about what happened and is like, "I'm not lying for your family, but I also won't say anything incriminating."

State vs Karen Read. ALSO KNOWN AS 1. Bluetooth Speaker vs Surround Sound Speakers 2. White Claw vs. Beer 3. BarkingDog vs. Suddenly Deaf/Mute Dog 4. Body vs Blob, ft. Special Guest The Blizzard and Drunk Passerby

This case reminds me of why I started loving Emily. I joined with the Depp trial and I loved when she would get frustrated with Elain and call her out on the BS. Now it’s Lollie! Lol 😂

The sad part is, it seems Karen and the family are the only ones who care that John died.

The prosecutors aren’t trying to prove their case, they are trying to disprove the defense. That’s sign of a weak case or weak prosecutor.

My concern is how there seems no concern for their morals by telling lies ( even by omitting information) that could potentially get a person convicted of MURDER!

With presented evidence, at this point, I’m just going to assume Mrs. McCabe and Miss Chloe did it in the basement with a dumbbell until Tim Curry tells me otherwise

Judge Bev will never let anyone understand what is happening here. As an ICU former nurse for 30 yrs, the Autopsy photos are horrific. Officer John O’Keefe was beaten to death. I have taken care of many patients found down. I actually feel sick when I viewed the photo’s. I want to hear from Trauma Nurses from Emergency Room. I live in the next town from Canton. Following from the date it happened. Thanks Emily for covering this case.

How are none of these people like, “I wish I had seen him and been able to help!”

This must be the first case ever where the defense has presented their case first, and the prosecution has been able to lead witnesses by rules of procedure

How does everything seem to come back somehow to Jen McCabe. Like she keeps popping up with most of the witnesses on the stand. I can’t wait for her to testify 😮

Look at this photograph of the girl with the boots with the fur in the passenger side of my best friends ride

Every time EDB puts it in 1.25 it’s like the heavens open and angels sing for my ADHD. Why can’t my whole life be on 1.25 speed?!

I find it extremely odd that Julie saw “a large object” by the flagpole, noticed it out loud to the occupants of the car (especially to Jen McCabe) and then after John’s body was discovered, Jen McCabe didn’t immediately think of that moment and tell the investigators that Julie saw something at 2:00 am. Plus no one else saw this and Caitlin left around the same time. But Julie didn’t notice this when she spoke to her brother. Very odd. Edit: Posted the first part before Julie’s cross, glad to see I wasn’t the only one who found that strange!! I wondered why she would have a screen shot of the text with her brother, so Jen McCabe asked her to screenshot it and send it to her????? Can’t wait for her testimony, it is going to be insane! I am also bummed that the defense didn’t ask Julie why, if she had “ put two and two together” she didn’t immediately contact the Canton police department and tell them what she had seen. IMO, that is what anyone should do if they have information that is important to a case.

Jen M. asking for screenshots of texts between Julie Nagel and Julie’s brother, Ryan, is weird as hell. Super fishy.

The judge acts like she's doing people a FAVOR by letting them ask reasonable questions. Wow thanks lady!!!

It feels like this black blob was added because of 2 reasons. This young girl wanted to be significant part of the trial, and the prosecution was floundering and needed something. I think it was a big backfire, because who believes this now? What investigator would not have interviewed every single human on that property within hours of the death? Why do you wait nearly a year to interview some of the occupants of the home where the “murder” took place?

Definitely the blonde nurse was the most honest likable witness.. along with the beautiful Greek couple from the Bah

If you asked me what I did on September 10th, 2001- I couldn’t tell you a thing. But ask me what I did on 9/11 - I can tell you everything. I remember what I wore to work that day. My point is that when something momentous happens - the day imprints. A dead guy on your lawn is momentous. I’m blown away from all the “I don’t remember” answers that I’m hearing from people inside the house. All these young people LIVE with their phones in their hands. It’s easy to time check rides, etc. Texts were surely sent. “On my way”. “I’m here”. Etc. These witnesses are highly suspect.

Tristan basically pleaded the 5th.

The WTF that still kills me is how everyone in that house was at the very least cop adjacent, and yet no one looks around them as they walk. I have never known a cop who would ever not take a view over their surroundings, and they taught the same to their kids. Even if they felt totally safe and didn't think that they should do a scan, you'd think they would at least admire the pretty snow. But nope, this entire family walks with their heads down or straight ahead. I can't buy it. Nor can I buy that a cop doesn't lock his home. If this was true, it's a miracle no one in the family was the victim of a crime

Lally is clearly defending this lot. I'm not seeing much if any of a case towards Karen Reed.

My puppy Ludo is wondering when Chloe will be called to testify

Snow storm coming …… don’t take the ride that came for you. Make others drive more when storm is going to be worse.

I don't understand how they got a grand jury to say prosecution has evidence KR did this? If they do, when do they plan on bringing it?

I have never been so livid as I am today with Julie’s testimony!!! Even after putting two & two together the next day she didn’t call the police! Omg I am swearing & my boss just brought in water!

Do you remember how you came down the steps? Yes, I levitated as is my usual practice when drinking white claws when it’s a blizzard outside.

Major inconsistencies: BA Jr said he looked out the window and saw lots of snow on the ground and tire tracks in the snow by the flagpole. Sarah Levinson: it was barely snowing and had just started sticking at 2am when we left. Caitlin Albert: it was snowing a lot and I didn’t want to get snowed in so I left at 2am Caitlin boyfriend: there was 1-2 inches on the ground when I picked her up.

I don’t remember if any snow was accumulating despite me being on call to plough. Sure Jan

It's funny how much of a big deal all of these witnesses make of it snowing, yet it doesn't stop them from partying! Lol

Going to keep this going What I've learned from the prosecution: - It was snowing - It was Brian's birthday - There were doughnuts What I've learned from the defence: - Red solo cups and random unsealed paper bags are adequate for collecting evidence - People don't need to be interviewed after a body is found (informal conversations will do!) and when they are interviewed it is months and months later - No one saw anything, no one talks about anything - Brian Snr got rid of his house, his dog, his phone and job all after the incident - No one knows who answered their phones at weird hours (Which appear to have been answered!) - No one is close to anyone (until they are) - SOMEONE SAW SOMETHING AND DIDN'T TELL ANYONE! Just sat on that information and never told anyone they saw a dark object lying in the snow. I hope Prosecution is not relying on this witness who saw a car behaving odd and something odd in the snow all while drunk.

The Commonwealth's case against Jen McCabe gets stronger by the day! Oh, she's not the defendant? That's weird.

Replay crew here. I really wish the media would stop doing long close ups of Ms. Karen. It's intrusive and I'm afraid Judges will stop allowing cameras. Also, I forgot she has MS. I have a friend with that and it must be really hard for her to sit there all day and not be able to move around etc.

It’s sooo quiet during a snow storm - you know when cars are driving down your street.sound is amplified. Especially at night. Also … no one on that street has any cameras set up?

It's Wednesday morning, I have my coffee, its a fresh morning in the UK and I am catching up on the 2nd half of yesterday. WTF is how I am feeling again, this is a mockery of a sham at times.

Sara Levenson is a breath of fresh air!! The first witness to testify who knows how to tell time and has a working memory. Her brain cells apparently havent been killed by alcohol!!

My number 1 question is why are all these cops drinking and driving? It’s insanity!

If you can’t dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle them with B.S. and baffled I am. If I knew nothing of the reasons for the trial, and now, after 10 days, I still wouldn’t know!

Keeping track of what I’m sure of. 1) it was snowing 2) the entire Albert family tree 3) everyone has some very unfortunate coincidences all at the same time. 4) white claw is popular 5) it was someone’s birthday 6) they didn’t interview people quickly 7) I’m never using solo cups again 8) what if any annoys the f out of me now

“The longer the trial goes, the less I know.” So true. What in the world is going on???

That last witness had an incredibly disrespectful attitude. She doesn't come across credible at all... at the end of every day I scream " HOW DID THIS EVER GET TO TRIAL????" 😱😱😱

2.28.35 "Is your memory exhausted?" This was a ridiculous question by Lally, and Yanetti uses it on every witness since, just to irritate the judge, because she would never have allowed the defence to ask it.

I am a loyal fan of EDB after the last few cases. I very much enjoy court with you and your outlook and informative input. I dont make a lot of comments but love your channel and wanted to say how awesome you are.

You know how presidents age dramatically while in office? That's all of us during this case.

I feel like the big questions are answered every 3 witnesses. And it's from the defense's questions

IMO Julie Nagle was lying. She was defensive, she was beyond fidgeting & kept saying after 2:00 (or before)? I’m brain dead from the amount of push back, defensive & uncooperative behavior from these people. The amount of pull this family has is insane & these people willing to perjure themselves is beyond sad. This is a family whose misdeeds are deeply rooted & his black book (so to speak) of material on others must be something else. So sad our legal system is broken 😡

I need a white claw everyday I watch this trial!

She has been coached a lot since the Voir dire

How can you claim you sleep with you phone because you have 5 kids, yet don't answer the phone when you get a call at 2:30 in the morning and then again at 6:30 in the morning twice. I thought the last person who testified and answered nope to question about doing something about the blob she said she saw, was very disrespectful.

Everyday, I’m more and more upset that this case was brought, and that Karen Reed has to pay to defend herself from this. I realize that the case isn’t over, so I’m trying to remain objective, but it isn’t easy.

From my understanding, many of the witnesses believe Karen Read did hit John O'Keefe, so why are they all acting as if they're the ones on trial or are hiding something? It's one thing to be defensive when you're being cross examined, that's natural, but Julie Nagel didn't think to mention to ANYONE that she saw a "blob" on the lawn at around 1:45am in the days after finding out a BODY was found in that very spot? Tristan Morris couldn't just say he picked up Caitlin but didn't see anything? He was the most combative which made him most suspicious about what he may have wanted to hide, especially considering he had no intention of waking up before his shift and picking up his girlfriend.. Both Brian & Nicole answered calls but claimed not to? Julie Albert didn't want to talk to or see her close friend after being called at 5am? No one treated Read as though she admitted, let alone claimed, that she hit him?

It's subtle, but very noticeable that Bev never seems to use the word 'overruled' when there's an objection from Lally. Instead she'll either "allow that one" or she will ask the witness the same question. She only says 'sustained' when it's against the Defense. Interesting for anyone keeping score of the Overruled and Sustained judgments for each side. 🤔

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So this nurse hasn't been drinking all night and gets into a car with people driving that HAVE been drinking all night.??? Her mum warned her about her shoes in the snow, but never about getting into a car with drunk drivers?

The more of this trial I watch, and I’m a replay crew girlie who’s behind, the angrier I get that this good man has died and the investigation was so poor. No matter who’s guilty the police work seems to be of such a bad quality, it’s pretty insulting to the poor man’s family.

I rarely comment but wanted to thank you for your coverage of trials. Your commentary makes the "what if any, who if any"s much more tolerable!!

Replay crew. Just got to the DEFCON red! Not only was there no interview of tristan till last week, but it was on the phone. Just a brief chitty chitty chat chat. So many layers of f’ery.

"Less than truthful" and "evasive". You're so nice. They are telling so many lies.

I wonder how many arguments they had after they all testified!

Sooo Julie just happened to see a 5-6 foot long black blob, while drunk, in a moving car, from the backseat drivers side and says "I think I saw something but I'm drunk"... Suuuuuuuuure... They just had to have SOMEONE who left the house "see" something... give me a freaking break!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

4 weeks in, and I'm still not sure where he was lying in the snow. A diagram would be useful.

You are absolutely the most legit person to cover any court hearing. I have been binge watching you, half the stuff I was never even interested in, that is until you covered it! The fact that you also comment on my 2 favorite things, DMB and Bravo, has officially made you my favorite person on KZfaq!

“JJ” has a lot of explaining to do. Guilty parties insert themselves into investigations. She seems to have controlled the narrative in all of this.

The headlights of every car that backed out of the driveway to pass by the house, would have shined, slowly, across the ENTIRE lawn as the car went from an angle to straighten out in the road. In the bright lights, not one person saw a large body, excessive blood lost, shoe, hat or 47 pieces of red plastic??

All understanding I thought I finally had of this case was gone after Jr's friends testified, back to square one with 17 thousand more questions

You're the one i love to play for the daily recap. Thank you for all your hard work, Attorney Baker. You rock.

Just waiting for the prosecution to show up with their actual case…

What's the penalty for lying to a Grand Jury? For them to return a ruling of 2nd degree murder these people had to have lied their asses off.

I have had American Labs over 120 pounds and pugs, and a Yorkie. They all would have lit up like 4th of July with that amount of “noise”

Emily you mentioned “did the Alberts run out of bacon!?” Well that part of the court case made me go directly to Wendy’s and get a Baconator for lunch! And I’m pretty thankful for the secret message The sandwich was glorious!!

Once again, the Dog would be the best witness!!!

My goodness, the chat and online comments are such a wonderful community - I love being part of it. Thank you everyone! 💕

This is the trial where everyone is on trial.

Okay, so I came into this not knowing anything. My observations at this point (which may be subject to change) 1) The prosecution isn't making a case the defendant is guilty, they are making a case the witnesses are innocent and therefore only the defendant could be guilty 2) The police in canton should never be in charge of anything and are incapable of anything other than drink driving which apparently everyone thought was a good idea as a snow storm rolled in. 3) I do not trust anyone in the Albert "clan". They are all extremely combative about things they shouldn't need to fight over. Extremely manipulative in how they choose to answer questions, often answering questions not answered or parsing the words to see if they can answer a question without giving away something they don't want heard. 4) I am not sure about Karen Reed either, I haven't heard her testify but there is definitely a couple questions to be asked: After they left the Waterfall how did everyone arrive at 34 Fairview before Karen and john? Why was John about to go in alone when they had both been invited? If we are charitable and say Karen said "could I have hit him" or "did I hit him" why was she saying these words? Did she think she hit something but still left and only later became worried when John didn't come home? There are probably more questions but those are the ones I am left with in regards to Karen. Is that enough to think she is guilty? No. At this point my only sense of guilty behaviour is cops guilty of failing to investigate the scene of a crime, a family guilty of hiding something in relation to that crime, and a prosecution that is guilty of not justifying their case. That doesn't change my opinion of Karen at this stage, it just implicated everyone else around her. There is so much more to cover, Brian Higgins, Julie Nagel and Jenn Mccabe so far have been the biggest blips on my radar, and each for different reasons. Colin seems to have others attention, I feel like he was a 17 year old kid that thought he was being left out of a big party, invited himself only to find out it was a boring group of 4 or 5 people listening to Taylor Swift and not much else. I imagine this awkward 17 year old thinking hes about to join a frat party walking in to a kitchen table white claw chat and being disappointed enough that he calls for a ride within 10 minutes and has to wait an hour before that person comes. Maybe there is something I am missing but I haven't seen anything yet. The least honest person in the room award goes to Julie Albert, but maybe that just speaks to the fact she wasn't as practised at lying as the rest of the albert family so by comparison she is coming off very badly. In that light she might be the only morally decent person there who has been dragged down by the people surrounding her and is not coping well with being put under pressure. I still have not seen anything of motive, anything about the victims wounds, anything about the period between 2am and 5 am involving Karen Reed, where she was, what she was doing. The prosecution have thrown out one angle of Karen being upset at John kissing a woman but the time in between shows it did not remain a point of contention, nor that Karen would want to kill him over it. Thats all I got right now other than: Who if anyone let the dogs out.

Emily, I know this case inside out. I appreciate how you are coming into it, its a real education.

Let me break this trial down for you guys in layman's terms: Think of a sports league - any sports league out there (NFL,NBA,MLB,NHL), Now think of the absolute worst team in one of those leagues. That is literally how BAD the prosecution's witnesses are. I have never in my life witnessed such a sham. I don't understand how this case was allowed to happen. But of course, when the referee (judge) is clearly trying to rig the game in favor of one team, you understand why. The defence is playing a beautiful strategy and they barely have to try. This case isn't even about Karen Read anymore, the prosecution is literally spending all their time defending their witnesses. That explains everything you need to know. What a disgrace!!!

Emily always says exactly what we are all thinking 😂 I love the lawnerds!! ❤

It's very suspicious that people actually remember, two years later, what they were doing at the exact moment they didn't see the spot were the victim was supposedly lying. That is really strange.

Replay crew: IMO, Jen McCabe is knee-deep in this case. I have so many questions.

Why is Tristan wearing a watch if he has no awareness of time...

Someone FINALLY saw something in the yard at 1:45-2:00am which blows the State's timeline.

So much doubt in this case! How could they not even interview the few people that were present at the actual scene of the freaking crime within minutes of when it occurred?! I cant even!

I'm new to this channel. Baker is hilarious!

Every time I tune in to watch some of this case, there is always something jacked up the investigators have done. I really feel like they are trying to make the evidence fit their theory.

Small towns. Small towns close ranks to protect their own.

Can we press charges on LOLLY for shamelessly stealing everyone’s time with these idiotic questions?

Witness is rude and defensive. If she’s telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth she needn’t bring the attitude, but she wanted to.

Just an FYI: What did they present to the grand jury? Lies. And defense made a pretrial motion about that… And there were defense pretrial motions to remove both the prosecution and judge to be removed. They were denied.

I want to know why no one asked Julie why she decided to stay after she had already texted her brother to come pick her up?!

I've watched every day with you and never slower than 2x speed. The prosecutor is mind numbing. I do think his lateness for talking to witnesses he planned on calling is indicative of how much more time he needed to work on this case though. Untangling a shit criminal investigation costs more time and requires more care. This shouldn't have gone to trial based on what I've seen so far.

Hear me out…one of these kids hit him drunk and they are covering it up by blaming Karen!!

You know Emily you will be famous again if Neflex is in courtroom you know you will be in it. So exciting

11 days in 1. Its snowing 2. What everyone drinks except karen

I was just thinking that the stenomask that she is speaking into, would look really awesome if it were painted to look like a big ice cream cone. That would be amazing to watch.