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Liz Amazing

Liz Amazing

8 ай бұрын

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They've had it since September and NEVER camped in it yet! Dave and Hildy have a brand new Winnebago View that has spent far more time in the shop than in their possession.
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@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
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@rp1645
@rp1645 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so so much for doing these videos my RVer friend. If I want water or moisture when out camping I can use my tent, NOT when you finally have the money 💰 to buy a very expensive Home to stay in camper. I do see this ROOF issue with WATER throughout the industry. The ROOFS and windows have to be sealed better........... And don't make big DAMS with calking to make a puddle for water to sit on the roof.
@billberry3669
@billberry3669 8 ай бұрын
Sound like the dealership is not passing the buck. I bet they get it right soon. We had similar issues with our nexus super c. Traded it back in after only six weeks took a huge loss. We bit the bullet and bought a brand new renegade. Everything works perfectly fine on our renegade and no leaks or slide out issues.
@jansmith3158
@jansmith3158 8 ай бұрын
Hi Liz, please let this couple know that this leaking could (most likely will) cause a major health issues with mold growing behind the walls/under the floors/ceiling/storage compartments. This couple needs to look into "mold & rv's issues", "mold symptoms" and most important "mold toxicant healthy issues". You can become extremly extremely sick being exposed to mold. And Rv's are notorious for mold issues even without a leaking roof. This camper is a lemon 🍋 Great reporting Liz!!! Another excellent video. I wish this couple all the best trying to resolve this nighmare.
@garyreed354
@garyreed354 7 ай бұрын
I bought a few rvs that leaked and fix them up my self payed nothing for them because they leaked now it's a good motorhome u have to be handy with these things
@themancalledx1342
@themancalledx1342 2 ай бұрын
After watching this channel for a week, I would never buy an RV. I thought car dealerships were devious. These guys are a whole another level.
@killj802
@killj802 15 күн бұрын
Buy European. ALL American RV’s are junk.
@danielrn133
@danielrn133 15 күн бұрын
The warranties are essentially worthless. Also you can't fix something that was built like junk the begin with. They paid like 130K and now it is maybe worth 20 grand.
@donnaweiss4757
@donnaweiss4757 8 ай бұрын
There is NO excuse for this! People are paying ALOT of money for these NEW RV's and to find out its sub-standard quality. Thank you Liz for bringing this to the publics attention and helping out these people.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your support, Donna. I am outraged also. For $150,000+ you'd expect things to be right.
@steveludwig4200
@steveludwig4200 8 ай бұрын
I've been looking at RVs for two weeks and STOPPED because NONE of them have good build quality...not even average on most. Anybody buying ANY RV is foolish.
@petersdraggon
@petersdraggon 8 ай бұрын
That's it! I'll buy an easy to find low mileage 30-40 year old camper and feed it gasoline. They can be had for less than the sales tax on one of these. I will customize some things and be satisfied. I can buy a lot of gas on the interest earned on by $150k.
@jondonahue7163
@jondonahue7163 8 ай бұрын
To Steve Ludwig -- what Peter is saying makes good sense... shop for an older one, 20-30 years old, at a very low price. Most RVs aren't used much, and have low mileage with a lot of life left in engine and transmission. Of course there will be a few problems -- you are basically bouncing a small house along at 60 mph -- but nothing too bad. The joy of the open road with a simple older rig more than offsets the cost!
@jamesjoyce2528
@jamesjoyce2528 8 ай бұрын
@@steveludwig4200 DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.
@stephanieverlench6591
@stephanieverlench6591 8 ай бұрын
Winnebago needs to make this right by refunding the purchase price. This unit is definitely a lemon. Thanks Liz for holding these manufacturers accountable.
@ralphp3057
@ralphp3057 8 ай бұрын
Nobody is accountable for anything anymore! No one is responsible. And isn’t lemon laws on RV’s !
@kckettridge
@kckettridge 8 ай бұрын
@@ralphp3057 Unfortunately RV Lemon laws vary from state to state and non-existent in some. They consider the matter a civil case which I think is BS. It shouldn't be that way.
@mhdavedmasse1491
@mhdavedmasse1491 8 ай бұрын
Like mindef
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
I agree Stephanie. Thanks for your comment and stay tuned.
@toddwilliams5905
@toddwilliams5905 3 ай бұрын
Who will be the next owner of this Turd?
@georgek719
@georgek719 8 ай бұрын
I would think your biggest issue is around the corner - mold. That could make your Winnebago essentially uninhabitable.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Good point.
@kal7049
@kal7049 Ай бұрын
If that wasn’t completely dried out within 48 hours there is mold. Do not agree to let them “fix” it. Tell them to keep it and refund your money. Their local service rep told you this is an ongoing problem that the dealer and manufacturer both knew about it. I’m thinking it’s a fraud case at this point. The manufacturer won’t take you seriously until you get a lawyer involved.
@marilynkozlow8400
@marilynkozlow8400 8 ай бұрын
I can’t imagine paying that much for a camper van and having those issues. I would be beside myself.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
I know it. It's so frustrating. Thanks for watching.
@catspaw3815
@catspaw3815 8 ай бұрын
A representative from Winnebago should fly out and be encouraged to live in the camper (and haunt Crowley's coffee lounge) until it's repaired 😁
@TimothyMichaels
@TimothyMichaels 8 ай бұрын
😁😁
@sylviaisgod6947
@sylviaisgod6947 8 ай бұрын
Like in the movie, The Super.
@jondonahue7163
@jondonahue7163 8 ай бұрын
Along with their cute Winnebago rainproof designer jacket, waterproof boots, and leakproof older-folks underwear. Winnebago factory techs -- ready for anything!
@frankenstein70
@frankenstein70 8 ай бұрын
Yeah and once he's had to live in it for 6 months, he can give that couple a brand new one, defect free.
@oddlyme9659
@oddlyme9659 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@sewistnotsewer
@sewistnotsewer 8 ай бұрын
Wow, I thought a company like Winnebago would stand by their product. This is shocking!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
I am hoping they see this video and make things right. Stay tuned for the update.
@thorsrensen3162
@thorsrensen3162 8 ай бұрын
It should not happen to a product made in US.
@kckettridge
@kckettridge 8 ай бұрын
@sewistnotsewer, my brother and sister-in-law purchased a brand-new Winnebago Adventurer Class A and had leaks in and around the front cap/windshield area that the dealer couldn't fix and Winnebago said since they didn't make the chassis, it wasn't their responsibility. My brother took it to a Ford dealer who worked on heavy-duty Ford chassis, and they sealed around the clearance lights at the top of the cap and had the windshield replaced with all-new seals. That took care of the issue. A few years ago when my wife and I were looking to upgrade our travel trailer, the dealer had a bunch of Winnebago travel trailers on their lot they were trying to get us to look at but we just said NOPE! Won't do Winnebago anything after what my brother went through with theirs.
@dmc522
@dmc522 8 ай бұрын
I keep hearing do not buy brand new. Especially over the past few years! They are pumping them out way toooooo fast! They don’t make them like they used to! Step up and give these people their earned money BACK!!! Ridiculous!!! Liz! You are doing a fantastic job with this series! Amazing for sure ❤
@ralphp3057
@ralphp3057 8 ай бұрын
@@thorsrensen3162 Are you kidding? Lots of inferior junk built in the USA ! RV are just expensive junk . Lol
@skilltreed540
@skilltreed540 8 ай бұрын
Liz, please keep these stories coming. Without your platform...these people would not be heard! ❤
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so very much for your support!!!
@mhdavedmasse1491
@mhdavedmasse1491 8 ай бұрын
She was a pleasure to speak with!! I hope I run into her one day sometime in the future!!!
@geekfreak618
@geekfreak618 8 ай бұрын
Lemon law lawyers have been dealing with it for quite a while. These manufacturers know corporations have no problem messing consumers over with no punishment.
@jorgemartinez450
@jorgemartinez450 8 ай бұрын
This is a total nightmare!! Thank God we have someone that is willing to share these stories and help
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
You are so welcome Jorge! Stay tuned for the update.
@ceetee2021
@ceetee2021 8 ай бұрын
I'm just amazed people are still buying new RV's after all the negative news about the short cuts manufacturers have been taking in the last few years in the construction and lack of quality control just to get them out the door. My opinion: No Water Is Okay! There is no way I would accept that van! You don't know all the damage that's been caused do to the floods. Thanks for using your channel to bring these horror stories to light.
@cherylreynolds2672
@cherylreynolds2672 8 ай бұрын
Well used is a good option.
@ceetee2021
@ceetee2021 8 ай бұрын
@@cherylreynolds2672 Yes. I look for something 2 yrs old and well taken care of.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for being here and for your kind words! Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
@justinlinnane8043
@justinlinnane8043 4 ай бұрын
the lesson here is buy a older much higher end motorhome. For the money these people pay new they could have best of the best if they shop for used RV with low ownership and good service history. it doesnt guarantee they wont have any issues but the qulity of some of the better units make it less likely . the other option is to investigate importing a german motorhome .
@anthonyr5869
@anthonyr5869 Ай бұрын
@@LizAmazing most 2020 models were built in 2019 before the lockdowns but it’s good to do the research on the specific unit
@bobbypaluga4346
@bobbypaluga4346 8 ай бұрын
Winnebago just lost a buyer with me, I was heading in the direction of buying a similar camper but not if it cannot be sealed from water. Apparently the demand is so great that the RV companies think they can get by rushing trash thru the assembly lines.
@jamesjoyce2528
@jamesjoyce2528 8 ай бұрын
DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Bobby, it's not all bad news, thank goodness. There are RV companies doing it right. I think the smart ones realize they won't stay in business for long if they put out junk. Here is a recent video about happy buyers from a quality RV company: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9t2f7uS27LZk3k.html
@telcobilly
@telcobilly 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesjoyce2528 That thought crossed my mind a long time ago. Between the purchase price, cost of gas, cost of campgrounds, maintenance, it just doesn't pencil out. I currently have a very reliable Tacoma 4x4 with a molded fiberglass slide in shell that has never leaked 1 drop since 2012 when I bought it. Don't think I'll ever buy any kind of RV.. At the most, it will be a molded fiberglass trailer that my taco can tow..
@juliagregory5696
@juliagregory5696 3 ай бұрын
me too that was on my next buy after this no way geeze all that money you saved me spending thankyou so much bless you x
@Toxic-Male
@Toxic-Male 8 ай бұрын
It’s really time to band together and bring a class action suit against these robbers and thieves,waiting til retirement to buy your dream only to end up with this kind of issues is beyond ridiculous.Warren Buffet owns the majority of RV production in the US ,that would be a good place to start.
@michaelguyda9507
@michaelguyda9507 8 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking, take them to court! And hopefully there would be an honest judge to hit them in their profits!!!
@jamesjoyce2528
@jamesjoyce2528 8 ай бұрын
Won't work. There are very specific rules to forming a proper class for Rule 23 litigation in the United States. Part of the requirement is all similarly situated class members need to have suffered similar injury, and seek similar damages. And this inquiry is *very* specific. Given the wide range of problems with RVs, motorhomes, trailers, minivans, as well as the markedly different damages, you will never, ever, ever get a class certified in the United States. Absolutely dead on arrival in any jurisdiction anywhere in the U.S.
@Toxic-Male
@Toxic-Male 8 ай бұрын
Question,since schwintec slides are the number one RV issue (huge problem) and are knowing still installed by RV manufacturing knowing they will fail ,this is not good enough for one class action? And this is just one item that is causing untold misery to a majority of RV owners. The RV manufactures would like you to believe failures are only about 3-4% in the first year but any RV park gathering will convince you otherwise.
@oddlyme9659
@oddlyme9659 8 ай бұрын
Warren Buffett? Which news organization had reported that?
@jamesjoyce2528
@jamesjoyce2528 8 ай бұрын
@@Toxic-Male It could be. If you can identify a single *design* or *manufacturing* defect that affects *most* or *all* units in a brand, or across all brands, *and* your class is within the warranty period, then maybe you could certify that class. But it better not be an installation defect, because that gets into individualized issues. It's actually very hard now to certify class actions in the U.S. But you've heard of a few successful ones. For example, the Volkswagen fraudulent fuel/pollution defect, where VW messed with the software across all vehicles to report false figures, that one was successful. Or a few years ago, the Kia/Hyundai engine failure class action, that engine was defectively designed and affected all vehicles. Need specific facts of a true design or manufacturing defect affecting many units, as well as measurable damages.
@hapaboy0808
@hapaboy0808 8 ай бұрын
The issue is that these camper/RV manufacturers are hiring unskilled/cheap labor to maximize profits and are clearly not providing proper training to their build staff and definitely not performing quality control off the assembly line. Liz you are doing a great job brining this stuff to light. Thank you so much! Hopefully this will create a tidal wave of awareness that will bring change to the industry.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
I sure hope so! Thank you for your support!
@YvonneSchwartzYVON
@YvonneSchwartzYVON 6 ай бұрын
There is nothing cheep about RV employees. I'm from that industry and I know better . Most in my area are paid piece rate and have very healthy paychecks. Check out before spouting out. There are quality issues for many manufacturers but labor is not cheep
@hap5215
@hap5215 5 ай бұрын
Employee turnover was an issue with Forest River I dealt with . Every time I phoned about an issue, and there were plenty of them I spoke to a different manager who had just taken over the position and had no record of my previous concerns . So much for Warren Buffet’s caring company bs in my view . Should have spent money on a cottage package instead in hindsight .
@YvonneSchwartzYVON
@YvonneSchwartzYVON 5 ай бұрын
@@hap5215 absenteeism was horrible too. We used to Cater to some of their factories for break and lunch. during a company full breakfast buffet they had a meeting. their average was 25% absent every day
@kechkaren
@kechkaren 8 ай бұрын
I panicked when I accidentally spilled a small pot of water on the floor! NO water dripping, leaking, of any kind is acceptable any where in a RV considering how they’re made!!!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I've always heard water is the enemy for RVs. Thanks for your comment.
@Midknight_Trucker
@Midknight_Trucker 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for bringing these stories to light. As a commercial truck driver, I have dealt with water intrusion issues before especially with Freightliner and International but I had no idea that it was this bad in the private sector. There is no excuse for having water intrusion issues and to see what I thought was a reputable company like Winnebago having quality issues like this, makes me want to hold off on purchasing an RV for when I retire. Thanks again for shedding light on this issue and these folks stories
@jamesjoyce2528
@jamesjoyce2528 8 ай бұрын
Don't ever, ever, EVER purchase an RV. You have ZERO protection. Instead, purchase a reliable car, where you have significantly more protection in every state in the United States, including lemon law protection. Get a Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Subaru, even Hyundai and Ford make reliable cars. And then -- rent cabins, use AirBnB rentals and seek weekly discounts, cheap hotels. Do ANYTHING other than buy one of these worthless pieces of trash.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words! Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
@willowadams4234
@willowadams4234 8 ай бұрын
I know this couple IRL. They are amazing, kindhearted, lovely humans. Unbelievably rotten experience! The company should be held accountable & return the full price of purchase + interest. Better call Saul!
@mhdavedmasse1491
@mhdavedmasse1491 8 ай бұрын
@mhdavedmasse1491
@mhdavedmasse1491 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Willow!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! I am hoping for a happy outcome for them.
@josephalberta1145
@josephalberta1145 8 ай бұрын
Its very nice to know that as your driving down the road with water pouring on your head, your bed, your floor, your kitchen, and other areas, that they are designed to leak without doing damage to the cheap fibre board these are made out of.
@mhdavedmasse1491
@mhdavedmasse1491 8 ай бұрын
Ain't that a fact
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
It's so upsetting for sure. Thanks for watching, Joseph.
@TSinRM
@TSinRM 8 ай бұрын
Watching your channel reinforces all the reasons we gave up RVing.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
It's not for everybody and certainly a word to the wise if RV shopping. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
@henrymorgan3982
@henrymorgan3982 8 ай бұрын
Any moisture in you rv is not good. Let alone a brand new one. I would DEMAND a NON LEAKING new model that does not leak. Period. Electronic problems will haunt this vehicle for its and your lifetime. If that does not work lawyer up and have the lawyer write them a letter. Nobody HAS to move until litigation is knocking at their door. I really like that you have the dealership side of the story included. It makes a "balanced" argument. I love these videos Liz! Thank you!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
This is a very good comment, thanks so much for your wise words, Henry!
@mhdavedmasse1491
@mhdavedmasse1491 8 ай бұрын
I am trying
@miguelnegrete8883
@miguelnegrete8883 7 ай бұрын
Mine a brand new 22 COACHMAN Freelander was nice, shiney and neat until I took it to Colorado Springs, the jacks would not open,shower and kitchen leaked ,on the way thru San Antonio the moulding on front part of the RV started flying off it was just half inch piece plastic press in the moulding track it dried and flew off flapping on the driver side n into traffic smacking cars,water was leaking so we kept the slides closed n sleped in front it was total disaster outing .YOU WONT KNOW ALL THESE CRAP UNTIL YOU GO ON AN OUTING AND TO TOP IT ALL THIS COACHMAN FREELANDER WAS NOT EQUIPPED WITH A SPARE TIRE.I FOUND OUT THE WHEEL IS ABOUT $500.00 BUCKS N TIRE ANTHER $180.00 .LUCKILLY WE DID HAD A LOW AIR WARNING BUT NO BLOW OUT .MAKE SURE YOU REQUEST YOUR SPARE TIRE BEFORE YOU SIGN ANY EXIT DOCUMENTS OR YOULL be IN DIPP DOODOO.
@TheAvatar888
@TheAvatar888 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I was thinking of getting a Winnebago Era 70X. But after seeing how Winnebago responded, I’m looking elsewhere. This is absolutely unacceptable.
@geekfreak618
@geekfreak618 8 ай бұрын
Sadly, most American manufacturers of RVs are putting out very shoddy products. Best grab the contact info of a good lemon law lawyer before you buy one.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
I know it. Winnebago needs to wake up if they want to stay in business. Thanks for your comment.
@theresajoyce7589
@theresajoyce7589 8 ай бұрын
It’s great that Winnebago is working to fix this but honestly, I still wouldn’t want that vehicle back. What about black mold? Even if the leaks are fixed, mold could still be growing behind the seals. These continued problems are ticking time off of your warranties. If you decide to keep the RV, get your warranty time back. It obviously came off the assembly line with these issues. Good luck!🍀🍀🍀
@djsi38t
@djsi38t 8 ай бұрын
As long as the area can be dried completely mold won't be a problem..
@theresajoyce7589
@theresajoyce7589 8 ай бұрын
@@djsi38t And how would you check that this was done? Like I said, I wouldn’t want that vehicle back. It’s a lemon.
@bikingmomma524
@bikingmomma524 7 ай бұрын
@@djsi38t I have to disagree with you about the drying mold issue. Stachyboytris "black" mold does not need a wet environment to grow (as well as many other types of mold), even though it loves moisture and flourishes into giant, smelly, inches thick mats when it has a water supply, it still grows and spreads in dry conditions too. I had a hail damaged roof that leaked and dried, leaked and dried. Our insurance company said there was no hail damage. We had children and pets getting sick constantly with allergies, skin rashes, sinus infections, bronchitis, etc... Then we found out we had black mold in our walls, insulation, and air ducts. There were no rain events in our walls, but it got there from when the rain had intruded from the storm damaged roof. It was a couple years after the bad storm that we found the living, growing, and spreading mold in a humidity and environment controlled (AC and heat) house that had to be gutted and rebuilt. It was actually recommended that we knock down the house and build a new one. That was not possible for us so it was gutted. I can only believe that the RV should be gutted to the frame and rebuilt before the threat of mold is gone.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
I agree, Theresa. Not just mold, but rust, wood rot, and electrical problems. If they total a car if the water gets into electrical they should do the same thing here. Thanks for watching and stay tuned!
@rmanbike
@rmanbike 4 ай бұрын
There are some RV manufacturers that make a one piece fiberglass shell. No seams.
@billkop3717
@billkop3717 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations Liz on your 100.000 viewers I had no doubt that you would get there, and your videos are eye openers it very sad that people have to continue to have so many problems, and spend money and time on these issues when they should be enjoying their travels, thanks for the heads up on these issues Liz you are amazing and Beautiful, from Montana I send you best wishes and Happy RV trails, stay safe out Liz!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Bill! Lucky you to live in one of my favorite states. Sure appreciate your support and good wishes. Merry Christmas and see you in the next video.
@donokanagan
@donokanagan 8 ай бұрын
My wife and I just put a deposit on one of these.........and were waiting for some upgrades, such as solar system, slide covers, etc... After watching this video, we cancelled our order and looking elsewhere. We did get 100% refund on our deposit. Dealer said this was an "Anomaly"...but were where not going to get scammed like this. Thank you for your video and experience. We did end up going with another manufacturer and put into the contract deficiencies like these that they were happy to agree with.........Just food for thought.
@jamesjoyce2528
@jamesjoyce2528 8 ай бұрын
DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.
@jaydse6929
@jaydse6929 8 ай бұрын
um; what other manufacturer please?
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Whew, sounds like you dodged a bullet. I hope Winnebago uses this as a wakeup call. They can't possibly stay in business if they make a shoddy product and then don't try to make it right. Thanks for your comment.
@CrazyCanadian5555
@CrazyCanadian5555 2 ай бұрын
Don't buy 21,22,23,24 models !!!😂
@edithp.7213
@edithp.7213 8 ай бұрын
Love what you’re doing Liz. These people need help.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for cheering me on, Edith. Enjoy your weekend and see you next time.
@jamesgilhooly1326
@jamesgilhooly1326 8 ай бұрын
Liz, you are the only Big Voice out there....and these Company's / Winabago needs to give them a Brand new unit..
@frankenstein70
@frankenstein70 8 ай бұрын
These people did not deserve ANY of these issues! Keep em coming Liz! Winnebago made in Iowa, I've been there, not as NICE as they claim to be.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so. much for your support. Stay tuned.
@mgv00
@mgv00 8 ай бұрын
I have a friend this exact model. It was a “showroom“ model that the dealer took to RV shows. The first time she hooked it up to a water supply, she came back after on hour with water all over the floor. She also had the parking brake problem. Mercedes had to reprogram it. Liz & Paul- I’m headed to St Augustine for a week of cycling
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
OOh, I hope you had fun on your bike trip!!!
@irenehinojosa6629
@irenehinojosa6629 8 ай бұрын
I hope they buy it back. Then Winnebago can look at what is wrong with the coach and see what they are doing wrong in the build.
@judyalden7183
@judyalden7183 8 ай бұрын
It’s the careless workmanship of the line workers. Thank you for this timely video the night before our purchasing the same year and model. 😅
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
I think it's a top down problem. The mfrs should never let poor quality leave the factory. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the outcome.
@countdowntowinddown
@countdowntowinddown 7 ай бұрын
The RV community really needs to rally together to get lemon laws going in this country for the RV industry. They have them for cars and they need them for RV’s!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Yes indeed! It's time for sure. Thanks for watching, Melanie, and stay tuned for the update with Hildy and Dave.
@athenasword8312
@athenasword8312 8 ай бұрын
This is a good service you're providing to highlight these horror stories. It underscores my belief: buy used. Older quality RVs might not have all the bells and whistles (more things to go wrong) of a new one, but RVs built in the last 5 years are very problematic. I have a 2002 Born Free, a high quality coach. It had 30,000 miles on it when I bought and I've put 25,000 miles on it with zero problems (other than rodents getting in the generator). Zero. If you're buying an RV to travel and have fun does it really matter if there's minor wear and tear? You make it your own.
@CycleDoc675
@CycleDoc675 8 ай бұрын
I bought a brand new 2015 Jayco Precept 29UM when the company was still family owned before Thor bought them. It has been as close to flawless as I could’ve ever hoped. I think that was because it was built by a family owned Company with some pride in what they were building. I agree, I would not buy any RV built in the past five years. The C-suite administrators are building these things now and this is what we get.
@CycleDoc675
@CycleDoc675 8 ай бұрын
Oh, and those Born Free coaches ARE very nice and well built.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! Yes, get an oldie but good AND get an inspection.
@barbwire65
@barbwire65 8 ай бұрын
Liz, thank you for the Courage to bring up a subject that's been ignored and helping others.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Awww, thanks so much Barb. Stay tuned for the update with Hildy and Dave and thanks for watching. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas!
@koertdubois6781
@koertdubois6781 8 ай бұрын
The surprising thing is that Winnebago doesn't have a "leak specialist" on staff who can recommend specific troubleshooting steps. And the dealer should have more sophisticated ways of testing for leaks besides spraying the camper down with a garden hose.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
You're right about that. I think the dealer should have sent it right back to Winnebago for them to fix. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update.
@Alzheimers-camper
@Alzheimers-camper 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video Liz. I have a Winnebago travel trailer that is at the 2nd dealership, Tuesday will make 4 months at a dealer for repairs of us owning less than 5 months. It’s absolutely sickening.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Wow, I am so sorry to hear this. If it's a 2022 or newer, send me an email if you want to share your story. That might light a fire under the powers that be. liz@lizamazing.com
@kandyhays4787
@kandyhays4787 8 ай бұрын
Liz, thank you for doing these kinds of posts. I’m a 67 year old single female traveler and had my many issues with SkyRiver RV in Santa Maria CA, central coast CA. Had many issues with my first travel trailer, traded it in after less then a year, second one not going well also. Had an inspection, after the fact, but they are working on the list. Also I have issues with them on their RV Tech hourly rate when the “Tech” is nothing more then a “handyman.
@zLigHt44
@zLigHt44 8 ай бұрын
They should just change the name from Tech to,sealer application expert.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh, so frustrating. Thanks for sharing your experience, Kandy. Stay tuned for an update on this situation.
@liaodesign
@liaodesign 3 ай бұрын
I also bought my rv at Skyriver but at Pismo beach location I have my issue with my rv but the service manage there Kyle is truly helping with customer issues there.
@Tatiacha
@Tatiacha 8 ай бұрын
wow I can't believe they said that about water. Pleasure Way in Canada has a water booth, they pressure water check every RV before it leaves to be sure there are no leaks! There is zero excuse for all of them not having that instead of these endless leaking issues, let alone claiming it is somehow normal.
@southernsunshine6154
@southernsunshine6154 8 ай бұрын
Loved my Pleasure Way. Best RV I ever owned.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
That's good to know. Thanks for watching
@charlottelavalette8236
@charlottelavalette8236 8 ай бұрын
What a great service you giving to RV owners . Like I have said before we no longer camp but love love watching your channel. Have a great weekend 🐼
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Awww, thanks Charlotte. Hugs to you! Have a great weekend as well.
@MrGryphonv
@MrGryphonv 8 ай бұрын
It's shocking the quality control issues across the whole industry. From entry to high end. You see all these reports that the RV industry is facing a lot of trouble, then you see some of the product they put out and customers saddled with problems. The companies deserve to be facing trouble. It is wrong that we as a customer accept that all RV's are going to have 'some problems'. Any other industry, that wouldn't fly.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
I know it! That's why I started this series. It's time for the RV industry to straighten up and do right. Thanks for watching.
@earlhunt2815
@earlhunt2815 8 ай бұрын
The RV industry has lots of money to lobby. Politicians respond to money and not to their constituents therefore lemon laws are weak in most states and non-existent in others.
@ralphp3057
@ralphp3057 8 ай бұрын
Its ridiculous for that CEO to say it probably will leak ! What ! It’s so sad people are getting ripped off ! Congratulations on 100 k Liz .😁👍
@cindyfavorite195
@cindyfavorite195 8 ай бұрын
We need to post this everywhere we can. Any high ranking officer of any company who says a leak “here or there” is acceptable, when I paid more for the camper than my home, is not acceptable. This needs to be spread far beyond camper’s channels, I fear for the safety of the thousands of delivery trucks and emergency vehicles these same manufacturers are building.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Yes indeed! So crazy that he said that. But that's what he said! Thanks for helping me get to 100k, Ralph! So happy you are here. Thanks also for watching and see you in the next video.
@sheryldye4259
@sheryldye4259 8 ай бұрын
Years ago when we got our Jayco used, we went camping with a group. We had no heat at night. A friend looked at it and it was not even hooked up from the factory. He knew what he was doing and fixed it for us. We had a nice time camping with all of them and warm.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for your comment, Sheryl! Glad it was an easy fix.
@wwolfdogs
@wwolfdogs 7 ай бұрын
Winnebago is absolutely correct, Water and particle board go together splendidly.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Oh goodness. Add to that wood rot and mold and electrical problems!
@mhdavedmasse1491
@mhdavedmasse1491 7 ай бұрын
Haha
@Brookethenomad
@Brookethenomad 8 ай бұрын
Take it back and refund their money!!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
I think that is a good option for sure. Stay tuned for the update Brooke, and thanks for watching. Have a great weekend!
@jetlimaximize
@jetlimaximize 8 ай бұрын
That’s never going to happen
@SueCL1480
@SueCL1480 8 ай бұрын
Seriously, turn it back in! It is a defective motorhome and completely ruined by the massive water damage plus whatever other major issue it has. Definitely a lemon! That motorhome after sustaining major water damage will never be the same. It actually now can be a major health hazard as mold starts forming inside the ceiling and walls.
@edwardtelles1956
@edwardtelles1956 8 ай бұрын
You can just imagine all the electrical problems down the Road.. wet wires , Wet connections , rust , especially Mold and Mildew. And you wonder why people flip out and go on shooting sprees.
@Starsnu1
@Starsnu1 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Liz for this channel. After watching many of your videos and others like it, I have concluded that the potential heartache and frustration with many of these campers will keep me from buying one for awhile. I'll keep watching to see if indeed quality improves, cut it seems like since the pandemic, the numerous issues folks have with today's campers seems excessive and cost prohibitive.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
@garybaldwin1061
@garybaldwin1061 8 ай бұрын
I've lost total interest with owning ANY RV ever. Thanks for your channel. We will drive our super reliable passenger suv and stay at hotels and camp.
@faxbullog8361
@faxbullog8361 8 ай бұрын
Me too!
@1969bones69
@1969bones69 8 ай бұрын
Yeah no kidding. As an old school hot rodder if I ever decide to get one I will just buy a semi and a trailer and have it custom built to my own specs. For cheaper than 200k as well. That or built off a school bus base. These stories of half ass builds is disconcerting.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear this, Gary. Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
@jamesjoyce2528
@jamesjoyce2528 8 ай бұрын
DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.
@robertbarron7017
@robertbarron7017 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesjoyce2528 , YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@SongoftheBride
@SongoftheBride 8 ай бұрын
Your channel has truly blossomed. I am all for exposing things like this and you've hit the nail right on the head. Keep going in your efforts, Liz, and thank you for filling this amazing need!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Aww, thanks so much for your support. I really appreciate that!
@TKSung
@TKSung 8 ай бұрын
As much as I'm tempted, this is exactly why I'm NOT buying Revel or Launch. (Well, at least one of the reasons). I'll stick to a lifted hybrid awd minivan and then check into a hotel when I need luxury. Liz, you are doing a great service not only to the public, but also to the whole RV industry by bringing these stories to the public.
@throdown117
@throdown117 7 ай бұрын
Coachmen sprinter rvs suck too. Terrible quality.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for your support! Definitely take your time and do the research to be sure you're getting a good floor plan. Join forums to get the inside scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Thanks for watching!
@glenncastia
@glenncastia 8 ай бұрын
Like that you are doing these videos. These RV companies need to be exposed because the reality is they CAN and SHOULD be doing much better and much more than they are.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you! More to come, a LOT more. I sure appreciate your support so thank you so much for being here. See you next month with more videos. Happy holidays, Allan!
@frankyancy1347
@frankyancy1347 8 ай бұрын
So glad to have sold ours....once the problems begin they don't end, and good luck getting repaired especially a MB out on the road. Plan like them on being towed.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
You are so right. An oldie but goodie is the way to go these days. Thanks for watching.
@home-powersystems7782
@home-powersystems7782 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations Liz, you are one of a few.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Aww, thank you! Glad you are here!
@dickrussell8128
@dickrussell8128 8 ай бұрын
Boy, I am shocked by what I see here, Winnebago was on the top of my short list, with them making so many components in-house to ensure quality and maintain control of their schedule. And on top of that to have it all sitting on a Mercedes Benz. It couldn't possibly get any better but now I am going to sit on the sidelines for a while and watch how this plays out - and rethink about a trawler to cruise the East Coast and the Carribean. Thank you, Liz for shooting up this warning flare. .
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
I know it. It really is eye opening. Thanks for your comment, Dick, and stay tuned for the update.
@adventurousspirit6628
@adventurousspirit6628 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations on 100K subs.🎊🎉💞 This series on RV's as been excellent, thanks for exposing these issues so potential buyers will have a better understanding of what they could be getting themselves into Take care!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so very much for your support and cheering me on! Merry Christmas and see you in the next video!
@carloseperezmontes2462
@carloseperezmontes2462 6 ай бұрын
I’m a certified RV Inspector, RV owners since 2015, and everything coming out from the factory have a lot of problems. Appears that quality control is something from the past. Stop buying units because “they look beautiful and the Salesperson was so nice…” use common sense and good judgment expending your money. Don’t get robbed with sweet words.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for this, Carlos. Most RVs coming out of Elkhart are suspect these days.
@jimsteinway695
@jimsteinway695 3 ай бұрын
I think in today’s market you better go into the RV world with an inspector, and a lawyer to inspect the contract. Steve Lehto on KZfaq did several videos on how NOT TO BUY S NEW RV!!! He’s a lawyer. The contract has disclaimers to keep the consumer from suing the dealer. You CAN sue the manufacturer but the contract says you must SUE IN THE STATE OF INDIANA. There the laws are skewed in the favor of the manufacturers. A good lawyer is $300 an hour. Your time and money is worth A LOT MORE!!!. So listen to Liz and also get a lawyer to inspect your contract BEFORE signing!! This industry is completely out of control. They need to have their noses put to the Grindstone. People paying a half million dollars for a money pit is ridiculous!!
@darrylt5300
@darrylt5300 8 ай бұрын
Great job bringing the RV issues to the surface, I have a 3120RL Montana and every time I take it out and tow it I worry about the frame flex issue that the are having with 5th wheels
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness. So sorry to hear that, and that is an issue with many of them. Thanks for watching, Darryl.
@wolfshurtleff1833
@wolfshurtleff1833 8 ай бұрын
Liz- you are doing a real impressive job. Giving people a voice. And putting the finger in the wound. We guess that your work helps everybody who is in the game: the customer, the dealer and the maker. I will repeat what we mentioned in our video with you - just talk to your customers and help with all the power and knowledge that you, the dealer & the maker, have. Mistakes happen, things break and lemons do exist. Just HELP your customer when the unfortunate happens. That is what our dealer, Bish's in Idaho Falls, is doing right now 👍🏻💪🏻 and did along the line. Thanks Liz for your beautiful intentions. Yours Wolfie & Brook
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Hi you two! You are so right. Communication is key. I sure hope for a happy outcome with your trailer. I think about you often. Thanks for your comment and kind words! Merry Christmas!
@MaryandTheJeepCycle
@MaryandTheJeepCycle 8 ай бұрын
Your videos are as amazing as you Liz!! CONGRATULATIONS ON 100k!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Awww, Mary, thanks so much for your support! I definitely feel like I am on a mission. Thanks for being here!
@johngaither9263
@johngaither9263 8 ай бұрын
I recommend you use the same parameters for determining a Lemon Law vehicle the states that have such a law use. After three unsuccessful attempts to remedy an obvious defect in materials or workmanship of the vehicle the manufacturer is compelled to buy back said vehicle. You will need an attorney, but his fees are also recoverable. You could set a precedent for RV's.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Yes. Thanks for your comment, John, and stay tuned.
@Invertmini1212
@Invertmini1212 8 ай бұрын
My brother bought a $140k Mercedes Revel Winnebago and I swear he was always taking it into the dealership for just about everything and then came the recalls.. It was eye opening.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Oh no. Sorry to hear this. Thanks for your comment, and for watching.
@TheSRMproject
@TheSRMproject 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the 100k subs! Love these real world videos.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, and I so appreciate you being here. Have a good weekend!
@martinhudson8515
@martinhudson8515 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the 100,000 mark. I’m finding across the internet it seems that there is a large number of units and brands across A,B, C class , Fifthwheel or trailer that are having quality issues. I’m tired of hearing the excuses of Covid and suppliers. These are engineering issues and lack of a quality audit being in place during the build. All of these ratings like ISO compliancy mean nothing if they aren’t applied and followed and in some cases workers or supervisors say go ahead with the job and we’ll catch it later. The inspection of new units at the dealership is get glazed over or not done at all. Brands do a great job until they get notoriety and then start cutting corners to say money on what got them where they are. It’s really said.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
It sure is, Martin. Stay tuned as my next video will feature happy buyers and a quality RV mfr.
@dandydon6049
@dandydon6049 8 ай бұрын
Nice to see you’re showing both sides of your wonderful lifestyle Liz. Very few of us could afford the way you live or even want to.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Really? I find RV life very affordable. I did two videos about that recently. One where you can camp for seven months with access to water and a dump station for a total of $180 and one where you can camp in campgrounds for an average of just $2 a night. Here are the links: Camp for seven months for a total of $180: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/npuWZa6ZvbXaoo0.html Camp for just $2 a night average: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ec-Ap7qo066leJ8.html Thanks for watching!
@cris_miko
@cris_miko 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, you are amazing! This particular episode is very disturbing. I'll be buying a class C in the next 3-4 months and I had been sold on Winnebago for quality control and customer service. Not anymore!!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
I'm sure hoping Winnebago sees this as a wakeup call. They can't possibly expect to stay in business if this keeps up. Thanks for watching, Cris.
@seabeevet9285
@seabeevet9285 8 ай бұрын
Another good one Liz!!! Thanks so much for exposing these crappy rigs and giving these poor folks a mouth piece!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
You are so welcome! Thanks for your support.
@jamespavlinik6481
@jamespavlinik6481 8 ай бұрын
2017 Winnebago Forza 36G diesel pusher. What we found was the best course of action for warranty issues was to go directly to the factory in Forest City, Iowa. The factory techs took care of everything except one item. This included coplete reupholstery of the fake leather seating (bonded leather)
@henryannis8752
@henryannis8752 8 ай бұрын
When did Winnebago fix your fake leather seating? I was told this year it was my problem even though they admit they received a bad batch of material at the time mime was built in 2016.
@jamespavlinik6481
@jamespavlinik6481 8 ай бұрын
two years into the three-year warranty at the factory @@henryannis8752
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
I think that's a good tip. Thanks for this, James!
@martyi398
@martyi398 8 ай бұрын
Wow you have to feel for these folks getting the run around by dealer service and manufacturer! We’ve only experienced minor issues with our 5 RV’s that we’ve owned in the past 30 years, although they were all travel trailers used for part time camping and the dealer service we’ve had has been good! We have secured inside storage for our new travel trailer and truck combo nowadays, that will help eliminate sun fade, tire degradation, bird droppings, hail damage etc while not in use, as stated earlier we’re lifelong part time campers!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
That's awesome that you've had such good luck, Marty, and that you are taking such good care of your trailer by keeping it under cover. It's definitely not a good time to buy new so hang onto that!
@yyt77658
@yyt77658 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Liz this is the value of social media to help the average person fight corporate greed
@kathrynb4683
@kathrynb4683 8 ай бұрын
I bought my 2002 National 3 years ago for 18k. 11k miles on it. Never a problem. Always buy tried and true. Great FB group too! 😢 I never would buy new.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Hang on to that good one! I have a 2005 Alfa. Thanks for your comment and happy travels. See you in the next video.
@banditkitty2743
@banditkitty2743 8 ай бұрын
this is horrible, especially based upon the high cost of rvs. They really need to buy the rv back and give these people a new one. Thanks for doing what you are doing, it is definitely helping and educational. Have you heard anything about the AEONrv (the new off road model)?
@jamesjoyce2528
@jamesjoyce2528 8 ай бұрын
DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
I have not heard about the AEONy. Overall, it's not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
@ricki7187
@ricki7187 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for this Liz! We were waffling between Tiffen and Winnebago and this closed the deal.
@michellefitz4287
@michellefitz4287 8 ай бұрын
Tiffens are really special. God choice!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Tiffen was bought out by Thor. My best advice is to go used, join the Facebook group for the floorplan to get the inside scoop from owners, and get an inspection. Best of luck!
@princessmarlena1359
@princessmarlena1359 8 ай бұрын
That’s so messed up. I’ve also heard horror stories of crooked companies that supposedly convert old buses and panel trucks into motorhomes, only to do a horrible job (or never complete the work) while taking the money and running.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Oh goodness. I hadn't heard that.
@garyp9906
@garyp9906 8 ай бұрын
Hi Liz, Gary from Kansas here. Another awesome video! I really feel sorry for these people. Imagine spending that much money only to have the camper sitting in the repair shop almost from day one. I would be livid! Keep up the great work. I believe your videos are getting out there to all the manufacturing facilities. They are going to have to do something or eventually class action law suits will start. Unreal how they make these things. I always thought Winnebago was a great make. Not sure now. Looking forward to next weeks video, girl!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Hi Gary! Thanks so much for your comment. I sure appreciate your support in this series. As you may know, I am taking off the month of December. Thanks for being here, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
@garyp9906
@garyp9906 7 ай бұрын
@@LizAmazing Happy Holidays to you too, girl! Talk to you next year!!
@BillyJackCarter
@BillyJackCarter 8 ай бұрын
Wow. Thank you for this! I was seriously considering the Navion, the sister of the View - it was my top contender. I was hoping to make a decision this weekend and possibly even complete a purchase this coming week. This is definitely puts the dream on pause until I see the followup video. Also, very disappointing as I would have expected better quality from Winnebago, especially on a model, such as this, which has been out for awhile and should have all the issues worked out. Also, note to self: make sure the inspector water tests the vehicle. 🙏🏼
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Hi Billy! Yes, I love the Navion too and almost bought one. But as a fulltimer I realized the CCC was too low for me. They sure are nice, though. Thanks for watching.
@c.p.1688
@c.p.1688 8 ай бұрын
Nail on the hear! You’re doing such an Amazing thing. Thank you for what you are doing!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Aww, thanks so much for your support! I'm glad you are here.
@leighsirvent654
@leighsirvent654 8 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry for these people. We have had a Winnebago View for5 years and are very happy with it. It seems like since Covid, the quality of all rvs are not what they used to be. I hope this couple can get resolution. If I were them, I’d push for getting a different unit, there’ll be many problems down the road with all the water damage. Someone in the assembly line wasn’t doing they’re job.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
I agree. Quality has gone down AND they need a new unit. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update.
@filomenaregan1537
@filomenaregan1537 8 ай бұрын
Oh I am so sorry for you folks! To spend that kind of money and have these problems is heartbreaking. I hope you can get these issues fixed and get on the road.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
yes indeed, thanks for your kind words. Stay tuned for the update.
@Gemini-kl1wn
@Gemini-kl1wn 8 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear this couple is having problems with their Winnebago. We have bought 3 new Winnebagos, including a View, and they were mostly trouble free. We did have an issue with the Navion's jack stabilizers alarm going off when the sensor got wet when driving in the rain.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, and for watching. Stay tuned.
@rickscorey825
@rickscorey825 8 ай бұрын
We purchased a 2018 Dynamax ISata 3 new. Constant issues with the motor home and Mercedes chassis. Last year we took a trip to North Carolina. The dashboard lit up like a Christmas tree with ABS issues. It finally went into limp mode. Most Mercedes dealers will not service RV’s. This was in September. We found a dealer and they could not get us in until December. We also found out it was a recall issue. We finally got it out of limp mode and returned to our home in Michigan cutting our vacation short. There are only 2 dealers in Michigan that will service Mercedes RV’s. It was October before they could get it in. If we had been out west or some remote place, who knows what would happened. We promptly sold the Rv and purchase an airstream trailer. So far we are happy with it.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Wow, that is crazy, Rick. Thanks for sharing your story and so glad all that is behind you now. Thanks for watching, too!
@Boxxkarr
@Boxxkarr 8 ай бұрын
We have a 2022 Jayco Jayflight 264BH, purchased new in Feb 2023. It has no pull outs, and so far no leaking problems from rain. The Black Tank rinse system does leak water under the sink, and I haven't had a chance to try to track it down. We were considering getting Winni, but now I'm happy with our choice! I hope yall can get these problems worked out! I thought Winnebago had a Sterling product, and reputation!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Glad you've got a good one. No slides is a good thing. Thanks for watching.
@jefferyrohloff9607
@jefferyrohloff9607 8 ай бұрын
Great job Liz. How long before this industry listens to the end-user. I feel the pain of the folks going through these issues. I hope industry leaders are listening, but being someone who visits the Indiana area often, and hears the stories of failures, I fear they are not.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
I am sure this series is starting to get noticed by the powers that be. I hope they are delivering a much needed wakeup call for sure. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update, Jeffery!
@patriley9449
@patriley9449 8 ай бұрын
Congrats on your 100,000 subscribers. What a milestone ! You deserve it for providing so much useful information and helping so many people. I have been seriously thinking about a Winnebago class B, but after hearing this, I am having doubts. If this company can't make a product that leaks ZERO water when new, how bad is everything else in the unit. Disgraceful. This problem could have easily been detected before the sale by running a hose over the RV for a few minutes.
@jamesjoyce2528
@jamesjoyce2528 8 ай бұрын
DO NOT BUY. These problems are industry-wide, rampant, and impact every price point, from the cheapest models to the Uber-expensive. These RVs, motorhomes, trailers, fifth-wheels, and haulers are all junk. Pure trash junk. Do not buy, not now, not ever. Get a reliable car and use cabins, hotels, AirBnB rentals, etc. You have vastly more protection with your car -- much longer warranties, much much much easier to repair, and much much stronger lemon-law protection. Never, ever, ever, ever buy a Class B, or any other piece of trash.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
I'm also highlighting good mfrs and happy buyers of those RVs. Thanks for watching and stay tuned. And thanks for helping me get to 100k!
@bobhobart3613
@bobhobart3613 8 ай бұрын
I’m going to Scream!! For you Liz! How can you take these issues without.... well. Just feel so bad for these people!! It’s great i think, that you are involved and many many dealers and manufacturers are going to start recognizing the “ LIZ AMAZING” name. We sure do!! Stay safe, God Bless 🙏🏾🙏🏾👍👍 See ya next week!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks so very much Bob! I'm so glad I have you in my corner. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!
@bobhobart3613
@bobhobart3613 6 ай бұрын
Hmmm. Just going to take the comment as a sweet Christmas and New Year card. Happy Holidays Liz!! 😃🙏🏾🙏🏾
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
@@bobhobart3613 And sorry for the delayed response, I got 4600 comments last month. I want to answer them all but it takes a while. I hope all is well and I’ll see you after the holidays.
@bobhobart3613
@bobhobart3613 6 ай бұрын
@@LizAmazing Enjoy Liz!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏾🙏🏾
@adamlevine2320
@adamlevine2320 8 ай бұрын
Congrats on the 100k subs. Thanks for bringing these topics to the forefront. Safe travels
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Adam! Glad you are here!
@michaelgarcia8271
@michaelgarcia8271 8 ай бұрын
Another great video Liz. Congrats on getting to 100K!!!, Nice balance from a concerned dealer. Keep up the great work and lets get you to 200K!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
I so appreciate your support, Michael! Feel free to share this video to help get it out there.
@jeannealex2560
@jeannealex2560 8 ай бұрын
Hi Liz.. You are doing a great job and bringing this To the attention of people... Please don't stop... We have been considering selling our camper but now I'm starting to rethink the situation... Might be best to hang on to it... So sorry to hear about all these people with these bad situations... Nobody has any pride anymore.... Thanks for the video you stay safe...J&A
@michellefitz4287
@michellefitz4287 8 ай бұрын
Definitely keep your RV if you can. We’re more determined than ever to hold onto our 2017 Keystone Alpine 5th wheel. Good luck!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Hi J & A! Yes, you are wise to hold onto what you know, especially if you are happy with the build quality. Thanks for watching, and for checking in!
@renatapawelec8154
@renatapawelec8154 8 ай бұрын
This is all too depressing. I don’t think that I will ever be willing to buy a new RV when the time comes for me to hit the road.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Not a good time to buy new, but trailers and fifth wheels built in 2019 and before tend to be well-built. The motorhome sweet spot is 2002 to 2008. Whatever you buy, join the Facebook group of the model to get the scoop from owners. And always get an inspection. Another advantage of buying used is the seller has typically gotten the kinks out. Thanks for watching.
@michellefitz4287
@michellefitz4287 8 ай бұрын
I agree. We are very happy with our used 2017 Keystone Alpine 5th wheel. There’s some really good used ones out there and sometimes you get some sweet upgrades included!
@binglassiter1732
@binglassiter1732 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the whole series Liz .
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
You are so welcome. I've got some happy buyers and a good mfr coming up, see you then!
@gastech7188
@gastech7188 8 ай бұрын
Wow, so many problems. Some friends of ours bought a used mini-winnie around 20 tears ago and had no problems for about a year, then everything that could go wrong went wrong. They found out that the repairs were going to cost more than what they paid for it. Parked it next to their home in Idaho and when the home caught fire the winnie burned up too. Unfortunately they also died in the fire, since it happened while they were sleeping.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness. So very sorry. Thank you for sharing.
@user-ko2tj3ct1l
@user-ko2tj3ct1l 3 ай бұрын
Well at least they got rid of the peace of junk
@10lauset
@10lauset 8 ай бұрын
Just so happens, a KZfaq creator, Steve Lehto, a lawyer who once specialized in lemon laws, has an old but still relevant video called "Don't Buy A RV" and other RV videos on warranty. These problems have existed for years. You ought to push for Rent A RV Instead of Buy. Cheers Liz.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
I've heard about that video. I hope Winnebago steps up and does right by Hildy and Dave. Thanks for watching.
@foodpedlarofficial2019
@foodpedlarofficial2019 8 ай бұрын
Dealing with the same thing with the aftermath of an improperly sealed replacement windshield by Safelite. Water got behind the dashboard in my Toyotoa Corolla and now it's an electrical nightmare. Safelite is beyond slow to respond so it's nice to hear that @ least Winnebago and the dealer are working with you. Hang in there!!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support and encouragement and good luck with your Corolla.
@mhdavedmasse1491
@mhdavedmasse1491 8 ай бұрын
Oh no
@gmctech
@gmctech 7 ай бұрын
Maybe cover that thing in high glycerine soap and water solution and blast high volumes of air into the sealed cabin and watch for bubbles maybe? It's a lot of work to set up but you'll find your leaks pretty quickly... In a passenger vehicle we do that all the time by just running the car and using its own HVAC fan, but in an RV you'll need to rig up an auxillary fan to compensate for the large cubic foot volume.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
There is a leaktest machine, surprised this dealership doesn't use one. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update.
@thecasualrver
@thecasualrver 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the 100K, and well deserved. I have to commend Crowlry Auto Group, for sticking with it. But It's a Winnebago problem, and for Winnebago Director of Customer Support Dean Casad to say if water intrusion is ok, and it's designed into it can withstand some water, is absurd and almost laughable. It's not a watercraft nor is it built like one. Mr Casad might take a course in electronics 101, water and electrical components don't mix. Now it's a real problem on the chassis side MB might not cover the water damage due to Winnebago's poor quality and workmanship. All the best for Dave and Hildy.
@djsi38t
@djsi38t 8 ай бұрын
The electronics are shielded from minor water intrusion.I think it;s good that they are designed to handle some water intrusion...I don't know why you wouldn't,this is a good thing....better than saying well its inside so dont worry about moisture possibly getting to a vital component..
@thecasualrver
@thecasualrver 8 ай бұрын
@@djsi38t I just retire from 30 years of automotive product development durability testing/engineering. Engine compartment electronics, modules, connectors are designed to keep water out, they are not engineered or designed for water intrusion. Interior electronics, modules and components are not engineered or designed for any of any type of water intrusion. The wire harness and connectors are not sealed and will not keep water from getting into the components.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thank you very much @thecasualrver for your comment. I agree. Also mold, rust, wood rot. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr. Casad got called on the carpet for what he wrote. Thanks for watching and stay tuned.
@RHodge317
@RHodge317 8 ай бұрын
wow, with all these horror storied about brand new RVs, it makes me never wanting to risk that kind of money to get ripped off. I was surprised even the trusted name of Winnebago is selling crappy made RVs.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
I know. It's really eye opening. Used is the way to go. Do tons of research including joining the owners Facebook page, and get an inspection. Thanks for watching.
@user-zr6sw2fp7v
@user-zr6sw2fp7v 8 ай бұрын
We would love to know how this turned out or get in touch with these people. We are having the same issues with our Winnebago View! This sounds like our story.
@mhdavedmasse1491
@mhdavedmasse1491 8 ай бұрын
Anytime
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 8 ай бұрын
Me, too. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update.
@Xjeep
@Xjeep 8 ай бұрын
Hey Winnebago, how about "intentionally designing" your RVs not to leak in the first place?
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
You got that right! Thanks for your comment!
@ginathacker6207
@ginathacker6207 7 ай бұрын
Mine is a C-Class Jayco 34’ on a 2018 Ford 450 Super Duty chassis with 45K miles. It’s been great in every manner. Greatest fear is WATER intrusion, which I have not had. Once any of these get “wet”…they are toast-MOLD cannot be stopped! Aside, 5 dogs, that is nuts!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
So glad you've got a good one. 2018 was a good year for the RV industry for the most part. Things have definitely gone down hill since then. Thanks for watching and happy travels.
@jrkung1901
@jrkung1901 8 ай бұрын
I love what you are doing. This really puts the spotlight on dealers and manufacturers. I love how you're getting all sides of the story and trying to be as neutral as possible. Without this, it would be so much easier to ignore people who purchased lemons, but with videos like this, you really push them to ensure companies who claim customer satisfaction is a top priority really are a top priority. Thank you so much for the work you do it benefits the entire RV community.
@mhdavedmasse1491
@mhdavedmasse1491 8 ай бұрын
We are so grateful for the help!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Thank YOU so much for your support and kind words. If you haven't already, please subscribe. And thanks for watching.
@Bronson2024
@Bronson2024 8 ай бұрын
My brother-in law purchased a new Winnebago last year. I asked him how he liked it and the quality of the RV. I will not repeat what he said given the are most likely women and children who may be viewing this post.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness. So very sorry. Thanks for watching.
@georgeoconnell8370
@georgeoconnell8370 2 ай бұрын
we had tripple e. 28 class c . outstanding 1982 went all ove n.america. alaska twice . never any issues .met the facktory folks . had winterkit instaled . . very fine machine . sold in 2026 now have downsized to roadtrec . also very good . we are truly blessed thank you we camp year round . . thank you so much for your great work . god bless you and best of luck with your great work
@lisaw142
@lisaw142 8 ай бұрын
Make sure you hire a mold company and have them test that rv before you even take it out. Mold starts in less than 24 hours. Sealing is not going to stop mold and if you stay to long you will be sick.
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Yes. And I just heard from them that (while it's still in the shop) there is now rust in places. Thanks for watching and stay tuned for the update.
@pgmurrin
@pgmurrin 2 ай бұрын
I’m starting to believe that the problem is “ corporate profit , corporate greed “
@ronaldmilner8932
@ronaldmilner8932 8 ай бұрын
I happened upon your channel and I am hooked! You are a good person Liz!
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 6 ай бұрын
Thanks Ronald, glad to have you here!
@jackpalumbo6949
@jackpalumbo6949 7 ай бұрын
Liz you had a better channel when you n Paul were together, you appeared much happier then when I go back n review. Your older videos, I still watch on occasion
@LizAmazing
@LizAmazing 7 ай бұрын
Glad you found something you like, thanks Jack!
@user-3tf67bk46u
@user-3tf67bk46u 7 ай бұрын
I agree, Jack. But Liz has found a new need for communication. Giving victims of extremely low quality and zero care from the selling industry about it, a place to share their stories of woe. But in my opinion the next step has to start soon. I've detailed it a couple days ago but only one person says I'm on the mark. I would stake MY LIFE I'm on the right track with my idea and it must come about eventually, why wait. Liz of course wants to retire and not be the head behind such an alliance but she certainly has the well established venue to get the ball rolling.
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