More info & other resources: ➤Lizard Skin Ceramic Insulation (12 Gallons): amzn.to/37eVWsg ➤Lizard Skin Application Kit: amzn.to/3NJ39Bd ➤Air Compressor: amzn.to/35ydkaE ➤Respirator Mask: amzn.to/3NJh1vC ➤Tyvek Suit: amzn.to/38pkzTu Here's the Thermal Camera we bought for this video: amzn.to/3Mc99RE Videos from other creators about ceramic insulation (and not necessarily Lizard Skin) we found useful: ➤Lizard Skin Ceramic Insulation test on dash and floor pan of hot rod: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pLZ6h6eoz5fVYH0.html ➤'Touch Test' (maybe less of a 'test' and more of just a good example): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7-Jm65hxNKvdKs.html ➤Great informative video (see what they do with the coffee cup): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fpijeNamnKmZaKs.html ➤'How Ceramic Insulation Works' w/ Window Tinting: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pblpp5mB0dKdZGw.html ➤'How Ceramic Insulation Works' w/ race car headers: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/baeTrcuc07atgJ8.html
@fritzkabeano19692 жыл бұрын
Friend of mine had a standard van he was converting. He had all his wiring in and decided to get it sprayed with closed cell foam from a company that was doing his neighbor's house. He prepped/taped off everything that needed protection and for $200 had it done. Huge difference sound wise and heat/cold retention. No warping of body panels and the price was right!
@GirdHerd2 жыл бұрын
@Mr. E. Ryter - Closed cell spray foam isn't toxic after it off-gases for a few days. If it was permanently toxic, California would never allow it to be used in homes.
@MyGoogleYoutube2 жыл бұрын
Ceramic tint for the windshield should be mandatory for any van build - use a 70 or 80 percent film that is nearly clear. The difference is amazing. These windshields are huge.
@christosmaninos15702 жыл бұрын
Interesting, do you have a link or suggestion for such a product? That would be awesome.
@MyGoogleYoutube2 жыл бұрын
@@christosmaninos1570 We had Llumar Air 80 ....happy with it. There is a little bit of distortion at night from bright light sources. Not a big deal for us.
@christosmaninos15702 жыл бұрын
@@MyGoogleKZfaq Thank you :)
@gstephenson73912 жыл бұрын
I have a high end tinting that reflects solar on my driver and passenger windows but would hesitate putting it on my windshield due to the fact that I just had a rock ding where I will have to replace the windshield. My Windshield is replaced no charge with my Insurance but the $200 windshield coating would not be covered.
@MyGoogleYoutube2 жыл бұрын
@@gstephenson7391 Can't take the money with you :) It's totally worth it. The one tint shop that did our Promaster offered a one time replacement warranty. Cost a little bit more but see if you could find that ?
@gstephenson73912 жыл бұрын
My first van build was 12 years ago on a 2006 sprinter. I used spray foam insulation. If I knew before hand that it could cause warping I would not of used it. It didn't warp thank goodness. It also would be a pain to have to remove the product if you wanted to remodel or add wiring, windows, etc. My latest build is a 2020 Transit High roof and I used the Lizard skin products. I think the confusion of the Lizard Skin ceramic is that it's not an insulation product but more of a reflective product. It will reflect that radiant sun which will reduce the skin temp of the van. The hand test on a sunny day is by far very convincing. The Lizard Skin sound deadening works great too just like the peel and stick. I feel you could just spray a percent of the panel, just like the peel and stick, to get good results from the sound deadener. I used Havelock wool as my insulation along with Reflective Foam insulation on the back of my finish panels.
@HornFool2 жыл бұрын
So - these two tests are testing different things. For the first test, we are testing how something at a higher temperature interacts with something at a lower temperature. Heat flows from warmer to colder. Pretty basic, and this product doesn't seem to do much for that. If you wanted to test this same thing for the second test, you'd need to put a cold van in a hot place that is NOT in the direct sun. I think we'd find that the inside of the van comes up to the ambient temperature relatively quickly with only the Lizard Skin and no real insulation. However, the second test is more about how much a source of infrared energy is reflected. The sun is directly heating things that absorb infrared energy. Therefore, an interesting test to reverse the direction would be to point the thermal camera at the _outside_ of the van when it's cold out AND there is a source of heat inside of the van. I think you'd find that less of the heat source is just radiated away directly through the walls that have the ceramic coating. Therefore, more of that energy bounces around inside and has a chance to heat objects and people inside the van. In other words, this product would still likely help with reducing the fuel/energy needed to keep the inside "comfortable". It would also likely reduce the "cold window" feeling we get when near something that doesn't reflect any of our infrared heat back at us. When regular insulation is then added, there is a slower bleed of energy one direction or the other due to temperature differences, and that will of course reduce the rate of energy transfer due to the temperature delta.
@earlhunt28152 жыл бұрын
Great data Rich videos on both the sound deadening and the lizard skin ceramic insulation. Love the interaction of you and your wife together... Great partnership.
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Earl! I appreciate that. Thanks for watching! 🙂😀
@KneeDownFPV2 жыл бұрын
Ceramic works best at reflecting heat. So, for tinted windows it reflects the heat before it comes through the window. For race car headers, it reflects the heat from the exhaust gases. This is important for them because they want the heat energy to stay inside the exhaust flow and not radiate out. The guy that did the test with the panels outside had the coated surface out, so it was reflecting the heat away before it could be absorbed into the part. For the van use case, most of the time it's just like the sound deadening in that it's just added mass. My hunch is that during the winter, if you had a heater on inside the van, and the panels were exposed, it would reflect the heat back into the van and make it easier to keep it warm. I think you'll lose most of that when you put finish panels over top, but some of the benefit will likely remain. For the summer, the heat has already went through the metal when it gets to the coating, so any reflection just feeds energy back in to the metal panel. Since the energy doesn't escape, it will likely have a much smaller effect.
@donaldendsley61992 жыл бұрын
Meh, the biggest benefit to ceramic headers is they have better corrosion and discoloration resistance. If you really need to keep the heat in the exhaust there are much more effective options.
@Panthineguardian2 жыл бұрын
@@donaldendsley6199 I concur. the best use of thermal/ceramic Lizard skin paint would be on the exterior of a van for similar reasons, and would improve thermal at the same time.. Its ugly to most people though.
@KneeDownFPV2 жыл бұрын
@@donaldendsley6199 agree, but this topic is specifically about heat retention/rejection properties of ceramic and the video cites this use case as an example.
@krimke8812 жыл бұрын
Finally some sense 🤘
@Panthineguardian2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for giving us all an open unbiased view of this product. I personally live in Australia in dry high heat conditions. I think a lizard skin or similar ceramic basecoat on the OUTER of the van would work better to reflect heat BEFORE its stored in the chassis, additionally reducing scratches, but that's just my intuition. There's a lot of people that misunderstand insulation and think that with more it will just work "better", it slows down heat transfer in BOTH directions, so if you've left your van in the desert all day with huge insulation, it's actually HARDER to cool it down again. The more objects in your van that are storing heat like little batteries ALSO adds to this. IMO, if you have the capacity/patience for it, a pop up car tent for shade is superior to internal insulation vs the sun.
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the thermal insulation doesn't 'store' heat. It lowers the heat that is conducting through the body panels so the heat dissipation is happening on the outside of the van rather than the inside thus lowering the temperature that is making it through to the inside.
@Panthineguardian2 жыл бұрын
@@EXPLORISTlife to a point I agree but not so much.. When you heat up a room of air. The air stores that heat.. and the fastest way to cool down the area is to "pump" out the old air while introducing cool air. When your mobile tin can is full of clothes, water, food, furniture, even your poop bucket.. as the hot air leaves and cool air enters, it hits the heated objects. (The same works inversely when you think of how quick a fridge or freezer loses its cold when you open the door) Insulation heats up just the same as all matter does.. it just slows down how fast it passes that energy from one side of it to the other, but it definitely stores it along the way. That is why reflecting as much of it inside (to keep heat) or outside (to reject heat) works. You need to think of the objects inside your car as batteries that are storing heat or cold too But hey, what do I know, I'm just a cowboy 🤠
@BF-272 жыл бұрын
This was the most helpful video I’ve seen so far for van applications of this product. Thanks!!
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!
@MotoMatt4182 жыл бұрын
Looks like a really great product. I would definitely love to see the interior heat difference between a fully raw van on a hot day and a van that was full coated with the ceramic. I live in FL, and a highly effective insulation is my primary concern going into my van build. I imagine doubling up on ceramic and then something like thinsulate would be excellent. The data on the actual differences would be fascinating.
@StupidInternetPeople Жыл бұрын
I don't have any evidence or science to support this, but I'd think it's just creating a thermal break from the panels. The idea of doubling up on it implies that it has r-value and more equals better. I'd think it doubling it would be a waste of money that could better used on a traditional r-value product. :)
@ScottPlude2 жыл бұрын
I love how much time and effort was put into showing the results. I wanted to spray two of my vehicles but they sit outside 24/7 in the desert and it hit me that they won't benefit if the lizard skin is outside and the temps are elevated. The interior will remain hot long after my family and I hop into one of the vehicles. It would have to either be a long road trip or find a way to cool off the vehicle before hopping in.
@raazdesign2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great testing. I've decided to go with lizard skin after watching these videos. I suspect the results here are actually understating the effect since heat flows from hot to cold and the test sites are in contact with each other.
@HappyJF2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was interested to see how it turned out. As a thermographer with over a decade of experience it would be fun comparing a higher spec camera against the FLIR One you used.
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
I will say that this camera is significantly better than the TIC we used on the fire department. 🤣😂
@thevanlife Жыл бұрын
That Solid Wood Works video was the one that convinced me in the beginning...
@GirdHerd2 жыл бұрын
I can also see the benefit of Lizard Skin on panels like side sliding door and back doors where you aren't going to cover the exposed metal with wood or cloth fabric. It helps prevent heat build-up in the van and the textured surface looks pretty cool compared to just the smooth painted metal.
@christosmaninos15702 жыл бұрын
This is awesome and your test results are inline with what I was anticipating. I wasn't familiar with this product until you started this series. I am familiar with ceramics, we use ceramic cutting inserts when machining aerospace metals. Ceramic is a fantastic insulation for thermal heat transfer, i'm not surprised that it wasn't as effective for retaining heat. I suspect that you will be very happy with this on hot summer days when the sun is baking on the outer shell. I will be using this product when I (eventually) build my Transit. I look forward to your future videos :)
@dankarau23072 жыл бұрын
Another way yo prevent some heat from reaching your interior, is to mount your rigid solar panels 4" or so above the roof. This allows good air flow to wisp away the heat gererated by the panels while shading the roof.
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Definitely! The solar panels will shade the metal from UV heat gain and the ceramic will help even further from the convective heat from the solar panels. We will have every inch of the roof covered by solar panels, an AC, and a fan.
@leonardkellum69842 жыл бұрын
cooler panels perform better, an air space is recommended.
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardkellum6984 We will have an air space. 👍🙂
@j.r.arnolli9734 Жыл бұрын
Combine the LizzardSkin products with wool-insulation, gives You the perfect campervan in terms of temperatures and sound. sprayfoam can be a pain in the ass, when it comes to rewire things.
@BigRedVan Жыл бұрын
Great video! Your last bit was a teeny bit confusing as to whether or not you recommended the sound deadening, it sounded like no but then she mentioned if you are doing the thermal layer then do the sound deadening layer?
@RedBatteryHead2 жыл бұрын
Its easy to use for sure. And with one layer the insulation is pretty nice. You do need to compare like for like. So based on thermal properties. It's 3x less effective than for example armaflex. 4mm. So in effect you would need to spray 3 layers for same results. Not sure if cost comparison is also balancing out than. Might differ from you climate what you would need to install. So one layer lizard may be enough.
@ladytrader688 Жыл бұрын
Jeff, have you used Armaflex as insulation in a van? If so, how much did you use? I would love to have a more robust insulation, but, wow, not sure I can budget for this unless I got lucky with a you tube channel. LOL. Would love to do the Lizard sound and thermal, but wow, the price. Maybe I could do the ceiling and wheel wells and something else for the rest. Thoughts anyone?
@RedBatteryHead Жыл бұрын
@@ladytrader688 I'm just starting my build so you're in luck. 😃 I'm using cork and recycled PET wool. Depending were you live it's different to source an supplier. In UK dodo mats is known for this. Called Thermo fleece. Might be found as Supaflex wool with others. It has pretty close lambda value to Armaflex. And building a layer corck+PET makes for good sound proofing too. Way more environmental choice over Arma. It's really not that healthy to use too.
@MyMiniTravels2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, great information and resources. Thank you!
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Hey Rose Arabia, No problem! Glad it helped! :)
@SaintTrinianz2 жыл бұрын
I have a ceramic fiber blanket behind my boat stove. It's incredibly effective but expensive!
@peternelson98652 жыл бұрын
Just a thought, if you sprayed on the lizard skin or even a bed liner and then spray foam over that, maybe the exterior panels won’t warp.
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not going to be the one to test it. 🤣😂
@StupidInternetPeople Жыл бұрын
I would tend to think that as well, as the sound deadening product is pointedly strengthening the panels to reduce flexibility and act like a drum skin. i'm also thinking the application of spray foam in a van might see benefit by applying much thinner coats over a period of time, rather a single large application, expanding into every direction. A lighter first application would again provide additional stability to the panels when a final coat is applied.
@Sprintervan Жыл бұрын
@@StupidInternetPeople I also wonder if a thin coat of two part foam as a first layer would prevent body panel warping. I have had 3 vans with spray foam. I think its the way to go.
@joecook7465 Жыл бұрын
We have a new sprinter 170 that we just began converting. Our first project was peel and stick sound deadening. My question is would you recommend additional sound deadening over the peel and stick. Also, I'm sold on the ceramic insulation. How much product would your recommend?
@davidpatrick18132 жыл бұрын
I wonder how all this translates into R values... also there are double foil panels ... which helped my rig much. I use Rockwool too
@davidmcmahan75342 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you guys are awesome
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Hey David McMahan, No problem! Glad it helped! :)
@cdnarmymedic2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if the ceramic insulation would bond adequately to the metal without the spray-on sound deadening? My thoughts would be to spray the whole van with Lizard Skin ceramic insulation and then apply peel-n-stick sound deadening over top.
@jlcain1002 жыл бұрын
Getting things ready for a cargo trailer conv, wanted to use this product but the cost will just be to high for and 8.5w x20L x 8H space. Hope I dont regret not doing it.
@blainkristindavis22619 ай бұрын
Thanks for your videos! Amazing job. We are planning out our first build - one question of this subject. We live and play in Canada and anticipate living in our van in the winter. Do you feel the Lizard Skin acts as a thermal break from the exterior van to the wood cladding? I feel there needs to be something between especially for vans that are spending time in colder climates. 2nd question - do you think you will provide kits that uses the higher amp hour batteries soon? Thanks!
@Espenrip2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone find out that spraying or coating the outside of your van will have a much better results on heat barrier? Then add foam or wool insulating inside.
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
I mean... it MAY work better; but it'd look pretty terrible. This stuff is like a 'less consistent' truck bed liner look.
@StupidInternetPeople Жыл бұрын
I would think a white van would be more beneficial, ceramic on interior as a thermal break, and then an r-value product :)
@YT-MY Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a comparison of ceramic paint coatings/wax versus LS. Applied on the outside surface would be optimal to reject infrared/radiant heat. LS needs to act on the heat radited from the metal body and reflect it back to the metal, less effective. LS still has thermal break and sound reduction properties, though other insulation products would be better if thickness allows. As suggested, it might be good to coat metal that is normally exposed on doors, then covered for appearance/durability.
@kevinm38732 жыл бұрын
Great Video as always. I just built my system in my trailer with a 3000 Watt inverter/charger. 600 watts of solar and 340 AH Lithium batteries. Your videos helped me so much, so I would like to say thank you. I do have a question about charging the lithium batteries and what state of charge should I keep them in. I keep my trailer in my yard so it is always plugged into shore power. I have read that you shouldn't keep the batteries at 100%. The charger will not come on until the batteries reach 12.5 volt but should I leave my solar charging all the time or should I let the batteries stay at a lower state of charge? Thanks for all the hard work and help you provide to us newbie's
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
That would be a great question to ask the manufacturer of your specific battery.
@stephencantbewrong82502 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! 👍
@quartamile Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great vids! Will y'all be doing ceramic window film tests to? Can you put it on polycarbonate windows (are y'all using any of those?). Bless ✌🏽
@GreatGrannyFreeBird2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 🙂🙌
@HuangXingQing2 жыл бұрын
I've used poly-iso and the purple one that's a little better in milder cold climates. Both with success. Problem I've been considering is in the hot summer everything tends to make it more like an oven unless you have an AC on. I'm beginning to think having air flow or AC in the summer months is a better option than maxxing out the R value. Once a van gets hot it's pretty much impossible to cool the frame down without waiting hours.
@syncrosimon Жыл бұрын
Yes, and no matter what you do with insulation your van will heat up,in the sun. Taking hours to cool after dark.
@HuangXingQing Жыл бұрын
@@syncrosimon Uh, did I not say that?
@youreright3664 Жыл бұрын
Great info. You are the only people that have shown this kind of info. Have you done a vid on sound deadening. I hear (excuse the pun) lizard skin is great for that. Also the weight that lizard skin adds to the van?
@EXPLORISTlife Жыл бұрын
We sure did! Here's the playlist to this full vid. Sound deadening has it's own installation and testing episodes: kzfaq.info/sun/PLmvhcyi4n0TVfA4XCYJBkzfUXunSON1zX
@bifish101 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
@EXPLORISTlife Жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@jr595472 жыл бұрын
nicely done! well presented video. I'm looking at doing something similar. I found 2 other ceramic products: thermacells paint additive, and cool coat. do you know anything about these? why how did you choose the lizard skin?
@Jayda082 ай бұрын
My personal thoughts; looking at your computer screen was a bit annoying, because original video was much smaller. Imagine what the people on their phones had to look at.
@scottdmartin2 жыл бұрын
This test was 6 min on the Temperature. was there data on how long it took to finally heat up to a less of a spread between the sprayed vs non-sprayed? What happens to the temperature spread after 1 hour or more ? Curious if you have that info?
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
The testing we showed was the only testing we did.
@Johnnybanarna Жыл бұрын
I was thinking 3 layers in my van for travel above the arctic circle, Lizardskin, Spacetherm, Havelock wool. ohhh i had to edit.... I will Line-X the entire van too.
@EXPLORISTlife Жыл бұрын
Neat! Sounds like a cool project.
@pennju7 ай бұрын
Spacetherm. I'm also looking at Areogel. Pricey but an amazing product. How did your project go?
@cr8tivspace2 жыл бұрын
And now we know you don’t lock the door on M, W and F from 8-6 😂
@naibawerdi46672 жыл бұрын
Hello Nate and Steph- We appreciate your help. Question is if you are adding thinsulate and or reflectix over the lizard skin products in your build? I did not see in comments. Thanks Paul and Nina
@naibawerdi46672 жыл бұрын
We looked at your photos on Community- question answered but what adhesive did you use so not to damage the lizard skin? Thx
@DennisWintjes22 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Like #5.
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Great, Thanks for watching!! 👍
@gettingreadytoretire Жыл бұрын
Is lizard skin safe on aluminum or do i do something first?
@TheSololobo8 ай бұрын
Can you do the peal and stick sound deadening and the ceramic insulation together?
@EXPLORISTlife8 ай бұрын
I don't think that's recommended. May reach out to Lizard Skin and ask.
@mitchellpeaslee94062 жыл бұрын
Hey Nate i have an unrelated electrical question. I have purchased some cheap “5 pin Halo switches” i am hoping to use them as a three way switch. I would like to use two switches for one light source, is this possible? If so do you have a diagram or can you explain how to wire it? I would assume that this is possible, i have seen lots of vans with these style “halo switches” and would think some of them have to be 3 way switches. If not do you know specific brand or switch that looks like “5 pin halo switch” that is meant to be used as a 3 way switch. Thank you very much!
@gonzalez78052 жыл бұрын
How will a thicker coat effect the results ? Wil double thickness double the thermal barrier?
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Manufacturer recommends 40mil thickness. I don't know what applying more than manufacturers recommendations would do.
@teamultimateexposurewillia7310 Жыл бұрын
Does this act as a vapor barrier as well
@EXPLORISTlife Жыл бұрын
Probably to the same degree the metal of the van does. 🤣🤷😂
@cycleoflife7331 Жыл бұрын
What’s the link to the thermal camera. I’d like to use it for testing for heated connections in my electrical system. Thanks
@EXPLORISTlife Жыл бұрын
It's linked in the pinned commment.
@cycleoflife7331 Жыл бұрын
@@EXPLORISTlife thanks
@nasseral-momen146322 күн бұрын
Hi, i know this was poated 2 years ago but i remembwr you saying that ypur going to install 3m thinsulate and wool over the lizard skin. Did you do that ? Im asking because i would like to do similar using dynomat and im wondering what needs to be installed first and if it sticks to lizard skin 🤔 thanks
@EXPLORISTlife22 күн бұрын
INSULATING OUR FORD TRANSIT DIY CAMPER VAN CONVERSION kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l5ZlfN1nz7WuYZ8.html
@nasseral-momen146322 күн бұрын
@@EXPLORISTlife thanks
@EXPLORISTlife22 күн бұрын
Also... Lizard Skin acoustic takes the place of dynomat.
@nasseral-momen146322 күн бұрын
@EXPLORISTlife that's true I'm just over doing it. So maybe just the lizard skin heat treatment and dynomat or just put it all
@EXPLORISTlife21 күн бұрын
Dynomat -> Lizard Skin -> Dynomat -> Lizard Skin -> Dynomat. Just be sure to use our affiliate links. 🤣
@jerrymarsh51712 жыл бұрын
Just curious, What happened to the Subaru Crosstrek project??? I just bought a 2016 amd was completely on board, now nothing! What gives?
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
The pandemic pretty much put a halt to that project.
@ovidiuficiu23762 жыл бұрын
How much I need for sprinte 170?
@billcoleman73162 жыл бұрын
Hi there, may I ask what brand thermal imaging camera did you use?
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
I've got links to it in both the video description and the pinned comment. 👍
@vincentstouter4492 жыл бұрын
🤔 What is the fire rating and toxicity of burning lizard skin?
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Lizard Skin has a Class A fire rating. Materials that fall into Class A or Class 1 include things like brick, gypsum wallboard, and fiber cement exterior materials. These materials do not burn well and are very unlikely to contribute fuel to a fire. If the Lizard Skin were actually able to get to a point where it would burn, many other highly toxic items in the van would also be on fire (the seats, dashboard, wire insulation, door panels, etc. At that point, it would be best to have already exited the vehicle and stand far enough back so that the fire department could put out the fire. Not too often I get to use my actual degree anymore. Thanks for that!
@SteveVi0lence Жыл бұрын
No testing in real world conditions/ road noise? :(
@EXPLORISTlife Жыл бұрын
Yes. Previous video. 👍
@SteveVi0lence Жыл бұрын
@@EXPLORISTlife thank you!
@sjackson992 жыл бұрын
Is it too late to do another sound test?
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
We will not be doing another sound test for the foreseeable future. I have to move on with the build.
@Seqhael Жыл бұрын
This is an incredible waste of time, money, and additional weight imo. Run of the mill foam insulation will do 100x better, add an additional couple of mm of foam to compensate for any minimal thermal benefit of the Lizard Skin. This totally boggles the mind. Having said that, love the channel.
@EXPLORISTlife Жыл бұрын
👍
@espjason2 жыл бұрын
Not using this product
@EXPLORISTlife2 жыл бұрын
Lol, okay? Remember... this isn't your van. You can use whatever you like in your own. We are just showing you what WE are doing.