Even though I love Lizzie as a person, it was evident Tommy truly loved grace all along and no one could replace their love for each other.
@editz6412 Жыл бұрын
Stephen king said they got rid of grace, because Tommy was not supposed to be happy. That pretty much sums up everything, Grace was his true love and happiness.
@noelbell644715 күн бұрын
Knight
@anne-louisegoldie21 күн бұрын
Different kinds of love for each. He was smitten with Grace from the moment he saw her at The Garrison. He fell deeper every time they interacted and by the time he went to her lodgings, his heart was hers. Lizzie gave her body to him for two years and he wasn't in love with her, although he liked her well enough. She was incorporated into the company to lift her up, and because she already knew them all and their business. She was loyal, tough in her own way, and she was in love with Tommy. It's sad that none of the significant relationships (I'm including May) had happy endings, but life is hard and Thomas Shelby didn't want a simple life 😊xx
@abidanielson27472 жыл бұрын
Grace !!!
@urimafaamausili53932 жыл бұрын
Grace and Tommy had a love story,, they had the ups and downs that they overcame to prove their unconditional love,, they both made mistakes in their relationship,, but at the end of the day they were happy TOGETHER,, He still keeps her photos and belongings in their house bc he still loves her,, he hallucinates her bc he feels the guilt of having someone he loved so much die,, their love had depth what exactly do Lizzie and Tommy have?? their love story (not that you can call it that),, is based purely off of the fact that he got her knocked up,, even Lizzie admitted when she told him she was pregnant that the baby was concieved while he was imagining her as someone else,, shes a great best friend with benifits for tom,, but not the Love of His Life
@moeshasanchez2 жыл бұрын
I never connected with Grace, I didn't even realize the moment Tommy fell in love with her, it was just so fast, also Lizzie is a person with scenes so short you can count on your fingers and yet I still feel so hooked on her. history, what Lizzie represents and when she has evolved, I really wish that everyone will appreciate her more and that if Tommy does not value her someone else will come for her
@sarahm.29422 жыл бұрын
Yep it was love from the moment he met Grace, you can see the way he looks at her, he smiles , he risks everything and especially the business, Polly hates Grace for that but you do not decide with who you fall in love instantly and forever, with Lizzie it is different, it is life struggle, her commitment, her strength to stay in his life, help him, he started to care and fall ( slowly)...but it will always think about Grace, because there is "unresolved" guilt, he thinks he killed her by offering her the cursed saphire...he sees her in his dream, he sees and hears her when he wants to kill himself.Love remains...you do not decide and I think that is the only thing he cannot decide or chmge.Maybe the ennemy who will defeat Tommy Shelby is just love...
@theprofessional87432 жыл бұрын
@@sarahm.2942 yes but the story between tommy and grace moved on too quickly, is it really possible to fall in love with someone so badly after such short period of time?
@sarahm.29422 жыл бұрын
@@theprofessional8743 yes I experiemced it and I wish you the same for you, with an happy ending
@abbygrimaldo3700 Жыл бұрын
Agreed I never liked Grace
@MsRouxe8 ай бұрын
@@theprofessional8743one year is a short of time ? So weird , so need to know a person for like what ? two or three years is ok ?
@jennamarshals55882 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Tommy loves grace more you could just tell he loves grace more
@Beth-pq9wl Жыл бұрын
Grace gave up everything to be with Tommy, how can anyone say she didn’t? She gave up her life, her morals, her reputation, everything. She knew who and what he was and she loved him regardless. Lizzie was always in love with him and she fell pregnant at a very volatile time for him. Of course he loved Ruby but he’s HORRIFIED when Lizzie falls pregnant. Compare that to when he found out Grace was pregnant and it’s like the world stops turning. He fought everything his family, society, her family to be with Grace and marry her. He married Lizzie because it was the right thing to do, he didn't want to. It’s not a contest both Lizzie and Grace were incredibly different people who provided incredibly different supports but you cannot for a moment argue that Grace wasn’t the absolute love of his life that for the first time made him want to be a better man. He was destroyed after she died and never ever recovered. Lizzie deserved someone who loved her FOR HER not for what she provided.
@BestEntertainmentNetwork.10 ай бұрын
You get it. I really love Grace and it hurt me when she died
@BestEntertainmentNetwork.10 ай бұрын
You get it. I really love Grace and it hurt me when she died
@MsRouxe7 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@gyanbea778819 күн бұрын
So true....
@amy9616718 күн бұрын
And Tommy deserves someone who is not moral superior over him and not complains all time during the marriage. Even after Grace, the love of Tommy’s life died, Tommy still deserves someone better than that.
@byjeici_diva Жыл бұрын
Grace e Tommy❤
@emilyjaneedits83522 жыл бұрын
I prefer Lizzie as a person because Grace never truly understood his gangster side and she betrayed him, BUT grace is easily the best person for Tommy because he truly loved her and she kept him grounded.
@allthetiredhorses52292 жыл бұрын
Could you elaborate any plot points where grace never understood the gangster side but lizzie did? To add i agree with the second half of your comment. The way i see it, its clearly showed lizzie is frustrated with his gangster side and the dangers of his life… she was angry abt finn’s bullet and pointed a gun at tommy and asked him to get out of his own house!! Grace knew and understood all sides of him... her primary concern was his and charlie’s safety..thats why she constantly reminded him abt his promise to her unlike Lizzie who wrote a ridiculous letter and asked him if there will be something left after he dies🙄
@Ibtissamkorean2 жыл бұрын
@@allthetiredhorses5229 watch the show. You can clearly see the difference between the two relationship. How Lizzie talks to him, how she know everything about him, his tortured self…etc.
@allthetiredhorses52292 жыл бұрын
@@Ibtissamkorean yup there is a big difference in the relationship!! How Lizzie talks to him- she pointed a gun at Tommy telling him to stay away from her house...later she says if he were to die She wants to make sure there is something left!!!
@mariasamires6596 Жыл бұрын
@@Ibtissamkorean sim, ele sempre teve uma segurança e confiança com a Lizzie, diferente com a Grace que traiu ele, e no dia do casamento pediu para ele parar com o lado gângster dele.
@MsRouxe Жыл бұрын
@@Ibtissamkorean Yes, exactly, there is a big difference, Tommy trusted Grace completely, and she is the only person he let in, he told her everything that was on his mind. Unlike Lizzie, he trusted her, but wasn't interested in letting her into his mind, as she told him in S6. The two relationships are summed up very well, when he says I need you Grace, and to Lizzie he says everyone needs me.
@svnbangtan742 жыл бұрын
Grace all the way
@mikaela47392 жыл бұрын
Obviously Lizzie because she loves him for who he is and not who she wants him to be. She deserves WAY more!!!
@janafarran49802 жыл бұрын
GRACE!!!!❤️
@HannahLVLS2 жыл бұрын
Grace & Tommy
@enjoyingmyvodka101310 ай бұрын
They each provided different things for Tommy that he needed at different times.
@allthetiredhorses52292 жыл бұрын
Grace💕 Tommy to Grace - Hello Mrs Shelby sorry for being busy in my head Tommy to Lizzie- i still pay you in my head
@supernova78482 жыл бұрын
“If Mosely lays a hand on you you he will be meat for Johnny Doggs “
@allthetiredhorses52292 жыл бұрын
@@supernova7848 yup Tommy is a businessman and will make sure no one touches his property after all he is paying for it in his head!!
@Norasi2 жыл бұрын
Grace! They had interesting story. Grace has class, intellegent, smart, brave, determinate. And the different feeling that Tommy had with them. With Grace he didn’t hear noises, she was like cure for him. With Lizzie he became less sensitive, never smile, never tender. We in general haven’t seen him the same after Grace’s death.
@mariasamires6596 Жыл бұрын
Claro a dor do luto é diferente para as pessoas, mas eu acredito que ele na s5 começou a amar a Lizzie tbm, no momento que ele fala que o mosley seria um homem morto se encostasse nela e na mudança de planos para matar o Mosley.
@SAMARA46632 жыл бұрын
Lizzie clarooo
@melodim6401 Жыл бұрын
Grace is his only true love.
@bel26722 жыл бұрын
a lize pode ser uma grande companheira de Tommy, mas o amor da vida dele foi a Grace.
@BestEntertainmentNetwork.10 ай бұрын
Exactly
@amy9616718 күн бұрын
Lizzie makes Tommy more depressed. Tommy deserves better, even after Grace died.
@SimonGhostRiley962 жыл бұрын
Grace. 🥰
@nananana-vy7fi Жыл бұрын
grace❤
@sofiahidalgo83282 жыл бұрын
Grace y tommy
@anacelialimalima66685 ай бұрын
It's sad that so many fans refuse to acknowledge how much Lizzie meant to Tommy. Everyone makes it seem like Grace was so much better, but honestly, she just didn't live long enough to prove it. Lizzie was with him from the beginning. He didn't make things easy for her and she supported him through the most difficult times in his life. I don't understand why there is so much violence against her. and in the end he confessed that he loved her, and he recognized the true woman she was!
@makaylalawrence63522 жыл бұрын
Lizzie love tommy for who he was and Grace loved tommy for who she though he could be. Lizzie’s love was unconditional but Grace always came with conditions and ultimatums.
@evakleinschi2187 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right!!!!
@MsRouxe8 ай бұрын
Absolutely wrong , the opposite really. Grace is the only one who know evry part of him and love him, with the bad and the good, they had a connection, is the opposite of Lizzie, she never understood his pain .
@justpawit8461 Жыл бұрын
As what i have observed tommy was at his best when he was with grace. He was so inlove.I think when grace died ..That was the last turning point for him..He felt dead inside.. Lizzie is great but Tommy was totally messed up during their romance.i pity Lizzie though..
@raragreeno14102 жыл бұрын
lizzie!!!!
@MM-wb6qm2 жыл бұрын
Lizzie!!!
@cheachanleakhina88132 жыл бұрын
Lizzie♥️
@enjoyingmyvodka101310 ай бұрын
Grace was the ultimate love of his life, he cared in a way for Lizzie but never loved her. She loved him but deserved better. Graces death broke Tommy and he obviously never recovered
@reflectofan40052 жыл бұрын
Grace. Smart and brave woman.
@mostafaqaychoh7565 Жыл бұрын
Lizzie 👑👑👑
@fa88342 жыл бұрын
I love Lizzie,
@KaurAmy2 жыл бұрын
Lizzie ❤️
@BeaWalsh8 ай бұрын
If you watch closely and just be objective, crystal clear Tommy was in love with Grace. They were equals. They were both in love. It is not one sided nor forced. They werent supposed to fall but they did. They were flawed individuals but they loved each other. Just different uniforms but the same. The tiny details of his smiles, his softness, his gestures, his back hugs, his wanting to change for the better, his respect to her, listens to her, etc...only with her. Some see it as a weakness but no. This was tommy before the war. Grace made his heart beat again. Then she took it when she died and nobody can mend it or replace it, ever. He may love again, in his standard of course but the true , soulmate and natural love? only with Grace.
@ibadoranongrum65082 жыл бұрын
Grace
@lilianamunoz8742 Жыл бұрын
Ah Grace la tuvieron que matar porque tenía mucho poder en Tommy si ella quería que se volviera granjero el lo iba hacer y Polly sabia eso por lo mismo nunca le llego a gustar ella para Tommy. Y Lizzie era más un perrito faldero que se conformaba con ser la segunda y que su rival sea alguien que ya estaba muerto osea como ella lucha contra eso ella sabia que Tommy no la quería pero quiso vivir con ello. En fin Tommy termino solo.
@MsRouxe8 ай бұрын
Exactamente! Ella tenía mucho poder sobre él, ella lo inspiraba a ser mejor ,por eso la necesitaba tanto.Todo lo contrario a Lizzie, ella saca lo peor en Tommy, al igual que él saca lo peor en ella, nunca iban a durar, y si duraron tanto fue porque Tommy era infeliz con ella.
@launanda98412 жыл бұрын
Lizzie
@MariaEduarda-wb8tc Жыл бұрын
Lizzie >>>
@thyr2 жыл бұрын
I prefer lizzie✨...even though they didn't had much scenes she still stole the hearts of loyal peaky blinders fans...grace is also great but...it's just I feel lizzie understands him...and all these years even after it was fucking hard to live with tommy...she still managed to ,for her love for her child for her family...her love is more of a sacrifice actually...and as we all know...grace betrayed him at first...and then she betrayed her husband and came back to tommy...grace loved him not because of how he is, because of how he was...lizzie was something else...she was just perfect...but still tommy loves grace more..
@MsRouxe Жыл бұрын
Grace left her whole life, to have a life with Tommy, because they both loved each other. She was able to have a good life in NY, she quit her job, and everything to be with him and ended up dead. What did Lizzie sacrifice? A life working as a prostitute? or as a secretary, and she went on to live in a mansion with many luxuries, oh yes, what a horrible life she had. And she never understood Tommy, in S6 she said it, he is not a normal man, that is to say she never knew who she married.
@elizandraupakila2 жыл бұрын
I loved Lizzie, I loved Tommy. But I hated how Tommy under looked Lizzie 😭
@robertamartins67622 жыл бұрын
Lizzie❤
@shambhavi2824Ай бұрын
Lizzie was a strong woman that Thomas, a 'gangster' needs. I know that grace has a perfect fairy side but that isn't ment for a gangster. Lizzie stood up for family and she was also loved by aunt Polly. Grace may be a fairy or a dream to achieve, but we need a fuking strong woman like Lizzie.
@crazykuudere2 жыл бұрын
Lizzie >
@MybabyboyIra2 жыл бұрын
Lizzie!!
@MsRouxe Жыл бұрын
Grace is a queen..The perfect woman for Tommy. She was just as intelligent as him, she valued herself a lot and respected herself, she wasn't afraid of anything or anyone, and she didn't let anyone disrespect her. Lizzie is the complete opposite, all she did in 6 seasons is beg Tommy to love her and wait when he wants to sleep with her. She had no respect for herself.
@shambhavi2824Ай бұрын
Lizzie was mentally stronger than grace, and she spoke facts. Grace was just a fairy who just was always skeptic about Tommy's job, and she wasn't even admired by aunt Polly.
@anacelialimalima66686 ай бұрын
Lo prefiero con Lizzie, su química es mucho más interesante, intensa, fuerte.
@muskankaur7087 ай бұрын
Grace obviously, Thomas loved Grace and never loved Lizzie, Lizzie deserves better. I liked Lizzie until they got her married to Thomas because of child. Individually Lizzie is dope but Grace and Thomas hits different. Though they had less time together, but Thomas was never that happy.. the last line where he says fuck everyone he needed him was enough... Before she died. But they were epic❤. She was all he wanted
@HarunoFa10 ай бұрын
Tommy didn't deserve Lizzie, and she deserved better.
@samiraSB-pl9uf2 жыл бұрын
Always lizzie ❤❤
@Alessandra-lh5cu2 жыл бұрын
Me gusta mas la pareja tommy y grace no lizzi
@ekfiles87122 жыл бұрын
lizzie understand tommy better than grace.
@BestEntertainmentNetwork.10 ай бұрын
That’s a f*cking lie! The same Lizzie that pointed a gun at him and told him to get out of his house?
@MsRouxe7 ай бұрын
@@BestEntertainmentNetwork.yes, it's a lie, Tommy and Grace had a connection that Tommy and Lizzie never had,Lizzie never understood the pain and trauma of Tommy.
@shambhavi2824Ай бұрын
@@BestEntertainmentNetwork. out of all things she chose to speak up facts, her words had an IMPACT of Thomas, so he didn't shoot himself. Believe it or not, Lizzie is mentally stronger than grace!
@marinafuentesalarcon23002 жыл бұрын
Según yo, grace es importante e irrplasable ese primer amor pero lizzie ha estado en las buenas y en las mala, recorrieron un camino de mierda juntos que los hace la pareja más perfecta en toda la serie (obvio con la toxicidad de las costumbres de la época) pero definitivamente lizzie es la mujer que tommy necesita a su lado.
@MsRouxe8 ай бұрын
Todo lo contrario, lo único que mostraron en el show que los dos merecian a alguien mejor , Lizzie saca lo peor en Tommy, al igual que él de ella. Si duraron tanto es solo por lo infelices que eran juntos.
@sadiqaadeli91632 жыл бұрын
No Lizzie no grace. May😑
@windows890772 жыл бұрын
Prefiero a lizzie
@evakleinschi2187 Жыл бұрын
Grace is boring. Lizzie is strong and is fighting all the time. She is also more a lady (outfits) from the 1920s then Grace. Tom is a womanizer and for one day, for one hour or just for a few minutes is another woman for him much more interesting then Grace...