The issue I’ve been having is with goalies. It feels like one of the goalies is making every save while the other will let in straight bs

There’s no competitors to keep them worried about losing customers, so they just don’t care about upgrading. Remember when they straight up asked in the survey if we’d be ok spending full price on another game even if they changed nothing?

Been saying this for years. What's shocking is that incidental contact is literally a slider in the game that they've never utilized well. NHL 23 and NHL 24 have been the two worst NHL games in a decade when it comes to physics and incidental contact. I also have brought up the fact that the comp 6s scene is absolutely plagued by bad physics determining games. The comp scene is a total joke because of it. I don't think they need to break the game to make attributes work or be felt, they need to start tuning this game at a normal speed and not mach 10 and tunning the game and its attributes/sliders will become naturally more granular since the game will naturally allow more scenarios to play out. Your attribute suggestions are great for online play, but are needed for offline play.

it says alot that you can make a the first 5 or so minutes of this video all short clips of the game being glitchy and unrealistic. you can do exactly the right thing and get screwed. ive played since nhl13.. contrarily i sometimes find myself doing stupid ridiculous runs and attempts that a real skilled player would never do, becuase it can be effective. i play less skilled win more games sometimes. great video dude youre spot on, respect

You perfectly articulated all the reasons why I've grown tired of playing NHL games and ultimately skipped on buying 24. One thing I would add about the physics; over the last few years I noticed a force field around my own team's goal crease that would push my player away from my own net. Defending cross-crease passes or wrap arounds became insanely difficult because of that. At this point, Rocket League is the only sports game I'll play. The physics are consistent, there are no glitch goals and the AI influence is minimal to non-existent. If the NHL series can iron out some of the issues brought up in this video, I'd happily play the game again. Until then, I'll stick to different games.

It’s amazing how this game just kept getting worse since 11. They have ruined it

Chel was Soo much fun before these "Superstar" traits and abilities. I think the special traits are what breaks the physics of the game... Great video thank you for speaking out about the quality of this game this year. Nit picking but why can't we have AHL, ECHL and so forth jerseys in chel?

I recently made a rant video on my page after skipping nhl 24 & as I said in my rant video the small things are what made past nhl games great. Majority of the issues with NHL games are honestly just alot of lack of detail & care and also the fact the the animations they continue to use are dated with the new technology they keep upgrading to. Which is why the game will continue to glitch in certain situations that involve physics based interactions. And unless EA takes about 2-3 years to strip the game to its core & completely upgrade all the animations to the newer technology or leave animations alone all together the game will continue to glitch n malfunction.

I couldn't agree more with the opinion that NHL should be more skill based. For years now the game has just been a cheese simulator. Players are rewarded for forcing passes and defenders are punished despite having perfect positioning. You get bumped off the puck despite skating away from the defender simply because you have a low balance rating. I could go on with examples all day, but you already get the idea. RNG based on you and your opponents attributes have more say on the outcome of the game then they should and that is super frustrating for everyone. This is perhaps a hot take among some but I too believe that EA Should move as much as they can away from Attributes. Like you said: majority of the in game mechanics should be manual and skill based. The skill curve would open up and the game would become more competitive. Like Lama mentioned some of the basic changes would be: Eliminating Attributes completely from faceoffs Making passing completely manual Making One timers Manual - AI goalies this year seem to be able to save everyone timer thrown at them, probably as an attempt by EA to nerf them. Making them manual would make the one timer a skill play that requires good passing, timing, and aim. Make tipping pucks a quick time event Making passing interceptions based on a quick time event and your positioning, the thing I hate most in this game above all else is when you and your teammates are in perfect defensive position but the other team forces the pass through, sometimes multiple sticks, and scores off it. There is absolutely no skill to these plays and it is all attribute based. Introducing an “intercept” button would fix this. It would reward players for their timing and defensive positioning, while allowing high skill forwards to execute finesse passes and catch the D sleeping or out of position. Hitting needs to become a more skillful art and not a crutch that players rely on. Overall great video and analysis, if EA could only see this and listen.

Completely agree. The traits have ruined the game. My friend and I play the game as if you would play real hockey. Make good passes, defensive set ups, defect pucks, block shots, etc. But yet the game doesn't want you to actually play hockey. It wants you to cheese your way to victory. Poke checking, hitting, and stick lifting have to be revamped. I should be able to lift someone's stick without it being a slashing penalty 8 times out of ten. I also shouldn't be absolutely destroyed by a hit simply by them nudging me. I just wish EA cared enough to make a good hockey game. But they don't.

I play d. Rebounds almost always land on the offensive players sticks; cross crease passes are overpowered by a wide mile.

I'm mainly a hockey player and fan but I recently went through the career modes of all sports games (NBA 2K, FIFA, Madden, MLB The Show) and even though I play the NHL career mode because I LOVE hockey, it is far and away the most removed from the real sports it's trying to simulate. If you look at any AI player for 3 seconds you will see egregious forward/backward skating, everyone running towards the puck, everyone getting in the way of their own teammate, never any structured plays either out of defense or in the ozone, just every AI dude has a spot they want to stand on and get to.... it's comedy. To your point about having to represent attributes I initially fully agreed, but what I noticed in other games is that they represent attributes by VISUAL misplays, an overthrown throw to a receiver or a ball fumbled on pick up in the show, that's low attributes. A puck glitching through a stick to 'represent attributes' is just the shittiest, unpredictable, gameplay. In terms of "poise", I think it was the same as 'intangibles' in 2K, a nothing stat to boost certain Overalls of players who would be two low overall based on their actual given attributes. Man this video is awesome, I find myself agreeing with all your points. The worst attribute is 'hand-eye' which just means you'll lose pucks that you passed perfectly because your player will receive them worse than an 8 year old with a wrong sided stick for no reason. One thing I would add is that I miss the opportunity to call set plays to trigger teammate behaviour. Like a default breakout stretchpass or all forwards coming low to break out together and so on, so many opportunities where hard coding could clean up this mess so easily.

Playing competitive EASHL this year has been ridiculous, perfect pokes bail forwards because they have a high puck control and they immediately get the puck back sprinting in a straight line, then they run into the goalie and it goes through them. Its been a good year for forwards, frustrating for defenders.

This is why I have played maybe 20 eashl games this year.

I’m experiencing something strange with versus online ranked games. I’ll go on a 5 or 6 game win streak, then I’ll be matched with teams who are lower, and my CPU will be terrible and their CPU will be amazing. I’ll go up to 695 to 700 around, and then I’ll drop back down to 645 to 655. This has happened on 4 different occasions. Has anyone experienced this?

Agree 100%. 24 is better than 23 for sure, but it has such a long ways to go.

The biggest problem is that the servers are absolute garbage. No other EA title has lag like I experience in NHL 24

Awesome video, I totally agree and I hope EA sees this. What I also hate about the game is the AI. The AI players are fucking dumb when I play Be A Pro and I know that hockey IQ at the level of NHL players is not the easiest thing to replicate but damn when a player has a breakaway and suddenly he passes the puck back to the backcheckers you know it’s bad. Also I hate scripted goals. When I play goalie in BAP I can easily predict when I get scored on. It’s almost impossible to catch a one-tee or whatever is that x-factor called. I can be in the best position possible and the puck still goes in and I understand that there are unsaveable shots in real hockey but this is straight up bs. Animations are a huge issue as well and I’ve been limited by them countless of times in the net.

I play nhl23 and the fact that I can skate through them, poke check, hit and they still have possession is beyond me

Awareness ratings should be about how the players position themselves and react without the puck when they are AI controlled. A good defensively aware player should get in the passing/shooting lanes more, while a good offensively aware player should be able to create them (only AI controlled). They definitely should not be in modes that are strictly human vs human.

Totally agree with everything and it really takes away from the experience when you lose games off the most ridiculous things as shown in the video. Every game is like this too. I also think they need to revamp attributes and actualy have a deeper dive into them and not a generic description. It also feels like attributes effect other attributes as well. For instance hand eye and offensive awareness

The big issue I see is the AI. When you are playing offline, and player locked or in Be A Pro, your team mates need stats like faceoff, hand eye, offensive/defensive awareness to allow for a difference in quality of teammates. But when controlling that same player, those stats should be deactivated or something to take the weird chance out if it

You would think this has never been a problem with the physics of the EA NHL games through the years, but you would be wrong. This issue has been around for at least the 2011 version. I think the 2016 version improved the physics a little, but then it went back down again it seems. Sticks being able to pass through players legs with the puck included like nothing was there at all has been the most common physics problem noted (at least by me). To be honest, yes, I have used this physics break to my benefit and is something I keep in mind when playing Be A Pro especially. Lets also mention there has not been a PC port sense 2009 and so I dusted off my Xbox 360 to play a physical copy of 2014 version after RPCS3 kept crashing on me with the 2011 version. My Xbox 360 is connected to my PC monitor with its own speakers connected to the back. allowing me to play the game daily. You would think with the extra time not having to port the game to PC for so many years, they would be able to fix the minor things like sticks magically going through another stick and nothing happens. I guess adding all the addition crub, that makes the game worse, is more important.

Wow I never heard of you but you pointed out things that none of the guys that actually do this for a living pointed out. I doubt easports even realizes these basic fundamentals or else they would’ve made a a decent game by now. NHL 14-16 were the last of a breed.

It always angers me to throw a thunderous body check, and the person i hit, ends up with the puckafter the hit. It my biggest issue next to, No Winter Classic Games, only one player can fight per team, no rivalries teams, no rivalries players, No hot players cold players, in create a player mode

I absolutely think General Use Traits should be removed. The things that give extra animations or make the most basic of things boosted need adjustments/removal. I hate not having Equal Skating Ability on All Classes for Eashl Based on Edges. I want 90 agility to feel like 90 agility across all classes. I think a generalized tipping would be good, like Hold L2 and use the right stick left or right to hold it out your stick on either side for a tip so you could see a player is actively doing it instead of Rng. I have alotta things i like about this game but alot i dont. Physics you touched on is just wild sometimes like the most basic pick up animations can have your players arms tweaking behind there back or when you go to shoot a puck and your swing hits a cement wall and your sticks just stops immediately because of some contact or the pucks a dead stop. The X factors and stuff are cool but at the current state its just creating Bs to deal with. Effectiveness should be based on attributes and i kinda like that numbers reward you ex. I have 99 passing you have 70 def awareness i should be passing it through that player most of the time if the pass is juiced Unless there positioning is absolutely perfect. But in the Same sense at higher ratings for defensive awareness it needs to feel rewarding cause there is some nonsense that 80 passing can force a cross crease despite Staring 99 defensive awareness in the face. Its why shooting is kinda hit or miss. Not alot of players play a shooting style game where hey i have 90+ Accuracy im going to snipe it consistently. Its more max the skating and run the minimum Accuracy then slap a perk on. (ex CQ 80 Accuracy) The whole Game would probably be better off with a reset and a simplified baseline. With All of the perks being really Niche Things rather then the General use Perks so that a player can show off more of there Playstyle rather then pick the best stuff. If everything is niche and less impactful more creativity can be expressed instead of being Op/and coming with extra animations for the basics and creating jankness. Your Bang on with the Automatic stuff being dumb. Auto sauce is lazy removes skill for actually doing a proper sauce the fact you can Tape to tape a blue to blue pass at full speed by pressing Buttons is a nice add for lesser skill/disabled community members with accessibility issues but its overkill in a the way that it removes the skill to make saucer passes that you'd have to make The Adjustments for a time the player skating into it. NHL24 has taken a lot of things in the right direction and now has room to do something differently rather than be a copy-paste game from previous iterations But just a matter if it will happen and how many years of getting a few things we ask for each year till it feels like a complete game.

I'm a strong LD defensive defenseman on ps5 but Men this video is spot on. I just dont get why the creator of this game dont focus a lot on updating physique. And rather just throw player packs on HUT. Also I'm not a fan of elite edges because it's one of the reasons where that traits also breaks the game physique. It should be limited to a certain build or completely remove it from the game

Lot of good points in this video. I agree with the ratings and attributes causing broken animations. I think the xfactors also cause the broken animations to occur. If you have one tee on, sometimes your player will get a slingshot type animation into the puck that looks very unrealistic and is op for the shot. If you get rid of some attributes, then the xfactors as well would have to either be gone or nerfed liked you said. I think this game should reward skill, especially in a competitive online environment. Rewarding good position and good plays instead of broken RNG.

My favorite is playing hut vs bots and you can tell they're about to score a goal because hits and pokes do nothing. you either bounce off the player or you somehow miss the puck. it makes it feel like the game is tilting the ice and punishing you for playing well sometimes.

Huge hockey fan + Chen fan in general. This game in particular and the franchise in general has gone down the crapper. Very lazy cash grab. The nhl hould be ashamed to be affiliated with this crap, we need to get vocal as a community and let the lack of sales talk

this is dead on. they have ruined this franchise since 22. they reward players all the time for bad hockey IQ. the game is so arcadish. it’s not even hockey at this point anymore

You're talking about all these problems that NHL 24 has in the gameplay. You're speaking from my heart 👌👍

For starters they need to stop making the game for old gen just focus on next gen

EA has to stick to the copy, paste formula... I agree with 100% of what you're saying and the last NHL game I bought was 21 but you're asking them to do so much work

The biggest problem with the game is that it’s a 99.9 percent copy and paste of the past few nhl games. I haven’t even played 24 but it looks exactly like the last few. Plus I’ve seen be a pro and literally nothing has changed with that for years

Couldnt agree more. The physics are non existent, the most glaring example being clearing the puck... No matter the player they clear it 10 ft no matter what... It rarely goes into the neutral zone much less the opposite zone... Poise is still in the attributes and very much affects the game play.

I have on easy mode, and I can't score for shit. Also,as soon as I get the puck, I'm getting checked.

This is actually the very last nhl game i ever buy unless ea Sports is not touching it at all. This is the worst broken hockey game i have ever played, i have been playing for 30 years, and i never have fun in this game. it's just a grind, and it does not feel the worth. You hit a lot of points that i struggle with. The physics are garbage, goals are redundant or straight BS. Maybe the old developers were better than we thought, as this was the biggest disappointment.

The servers are an absolute joke. Assumed they would have fixed it considering it was a problem in 2023. I am skipping 2025.

Good talk! More of this please!

W video, just got into NHL and I must say I noticed this in the first month

How about when you have 95 speed and a 6’5 defenseman catches you on a breakaway when you have 20 feet on him.

What oisses me off is that say obviously Trevor zegras would bounce off of a Patrice Bergeron if he tried to make a it doesn’t work for me and shouldn’t. But when the ai does the exact same move same players, and it’s not that when I control Bergeron he lays me out it’s he’s able to stop me just enough to get the puck or the other ai to get it. Something that would never happen for me I’d just be bounced off.

NHL 14 or hell even NHL 15 on PS3 was as close as I think we’ll get to physics based real hockey that rewards you for making the correct plays and has hitting that matters

i don't even really mind all the bs traits and shit i just wish it was more consistent. like a more realistic sim with none of this stuff would probably end up being kind of boring and difficult, sometimes it's fun to have your buddy park in front of the net and rip shots at him hoping he'll get the tip I do agree on lots of your points, but I think if the game was just more consistent and balanced (close quarters shouldn't just make a goalie shit the bed 90% of the time, some of the defensive abilities should get tweaked to not feel useless, etc.) I feel like these arguments wouldn't necessarily be needed

I would have to rebuttal on Discipline stat.. take the difference between Jaccob Slavin and Tom Wilson. I mean it does open the lid on things, but I definitely agree with ya. The nerfed the bejesus out of the defense in more ways than one.. I just opted to run a TWF with Heat Seaker, Stickem up (just so the pokecheck works/disciplined) and Elite edges From what's been working for me, as long as your discipline and stick check are above 85 your pokes work. Sub 85 you gotta have Stickem. TWF stats are more useful than TWD unless you run Shutdown

I miss scoring goals in 22/23.. 24 is just not fun scoring! Everyone in D3 & above does the exact same thing with their 95 ovr players it’s so dull

One of the things I don’t get is there’s no challenge call option like madden has why can’t nhl have it

You right bro.... Can't play hockey. Gotta play character build numbers instead

Amen brother!

Until puppets stop buying this heap. The garbage will keep piling.

I went back to nhl22 franchise mode..fk it. I hate the stupid hip checks the moment physics in 22 is on point, play with the sliders and you can knock yourself down running into the boards lol

Spot on, send this to EA. Not like it'll do anything but they should see it 😂 same broken physics year after year

I only play offline modes and i'd argue offline modes are even worse than the online modes cause at least the latter makes EA money. with custom sliders i found, i've been able to paper the cracks regarding the goalies but the SVS% of goalies is still a problem cause the cpu don't take enough shots that aren't AAA chances. There are glitches that are reoccuring year after year. The physics is infuriating. When you set yourself up for a check and you hit the player and literally nothing happens, like how is this not patched BEFORE release? I've said it for years. we are beta testers who pay premium for the game we are testing. It's disgusting. But I will likely buy NHL 25 cause hope is the last thing you have, right? I will add that what would help in online modes is removing attributes and make it all about your play and your skill as a human player. I'd hope that if this happens, that they keep attributes in franchise mode as it's a core part of that mode. I think making offline modes accessible is good but multiplayer is hard and should be hard, for those who seek that challenge.

I'll be honest, watching this clip, you could have told me it was the same game I last played in NHL17 after playing for about 15 minutes and just shelving the game forever after that, and I would believe you. I still see the same awful passes and animations I saw back then that had me going "I swear, this is the last time I buy this game". Honestly, best choice I made was to finally just stop buying the game. EA has made it clear they only care about one thing...and that's HUT players they can milk for money while letting every other facet of the game keep getting worse. Sadly, thanks to HUT players, losing the career mode and offline players doesn't really matter, because what's $70 for a single game purchase matter when you have someone who will pay that $70 and then keep paying? But even if I'm not changing the game by not playing (which looking at these clips, I'm clearly not. Still seeing the 360 spin from a guy who could just easily catch the pass and skate backwards like at the 1:00 mark, the same consistently bad goalies and absurd inability for the AI to even stay facing the puck and puck carrier while moving around instead of constantly spinning and running everywhere). The game looks stuck, and while it's not being made better by my not purchasing it, my life isn't being made worse by purchasing a game that just stopped being fun to me to even play. I spent so much time trying to find the right set of sliders and being annoyed at the AI and goofy animations that I finally realized I would just be happier not playing it at all. So far...so good. Maybe someday someone else can get a shot at the NHL series and focus more on gameplay than on all of the goofy stuff...but until then, I'll save myself the frustration.

agreed, but ea has to keep people buying the game so...

Woah... *NHL 10 flashbacks* Haven't touched EA since NHL 18

Your changes would work for online. what separates a 4 liner who can skate fast from a topline center with ai controling them

I just wanna be able to dump the puck like real life, in this game it's a joke. Yet they add one button lacrosse goals and hip checks from hell mode, very realistic 🤣 Also the werewolfs skins and what not have no place in a hockey game. Just my 2 cents 🍻

I just want the GM mode to be better

Nailed it

So the games haven't improved since 2014? Good to see. I will continue not buying them

Return of the King

I'm so glad I did not purchase this game.

The game is complete garbage. I hope people choose to boycott the franchise. We'll never see positive change otherwise.

Ea is very lazy it’s too Arcady

I stopped playing this year as much game is flimsy at best ,most toxic community I've ever seen !

24 is not better than 23

Get rid of animations. Go play nhl 09 and 10. Best playing games of all time. They feel leaps and bounds better than 24. Everything the puck does makes sense.

I didnt buy a Single NHL since NHL 09, I've played all of these 2020's era and it all su.cks. the physic never been improved since 2013 . Dont buy this BS until theres a revolutionary one !

Thanks for continuing to cover how shit this game is so I can continue to not buy it I’ve bought two ply toilet paper all year with my savings from not buying and now my ass is charmin soft

Well when you play online like most of these clips are on, right? its latency issues mate none of these physics issues happen to me in an offline game