4 Reasons Pro Skater's Kickflip BETTER Than YOU!

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Local Joe

Local Joe

Жыл бұрын

There are 4 Reasons Pro Skater's Kickflip better than you! All your favorite pro skaters use these four techniques to kickflip. Pro Skaters use these four techniques to kickflip higher and with more control. You don't have to be a pro skater to learn how to kickflip like a pro skateboarder. I suggest you try these techniques for yourself and see if they help you kickflip better. I know I'm just a local joe and this is my analysis and opinion but I really do think these techniques can help anyone learn how to kickflip better in one session! Happy Kickflipping!
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@jacobestrada2812
@jacobestrada2812 Жыл бұрын
Your honestly the only KZfaqr that explains things in a way that I can understand it. You really pay attention to the details. Other people just say "pop and flick". Great video
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Yeah man that bothers me when they are so vague so I try to be as specific as I can!
@mulekezicanorole
@mulekezicanorole Жыл бұрын
i followed your tips and now im kickflipng over cars, Thanks my dude
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
I mean makes sense…
@zenitramnaes
@zenitramnaes 9 ай бұрын
Skated for 10 years, now it's been about 10 years since I was skating everyday. Never really had kickflips on lock like other tricks, but I watched this and honestly landed one of the highest and cleanliest kickflips I've ever done. Solid advice.
@TwoForFlinchin1
@TwoForFlinchin1 Жыл бұрын
I find that when I tuck my knees I'm able to delay the flick without thinking about it. More tuck = later flick
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
True they go hand in hand!
@mstunameow
@mstunameow Жыл бұрын
This is the missing tip from Joe's video! I'm still perfecting kickflips and my problem when I pop higher is the board often does a half flip then sucks to my back foot because I'm not tucking my feet up enough. If you watch a lot of these pro kickflips you notice their backfoot is just barely high enough for the board to complete the flip. There's a lot of focus on the front knee/front foot in this video but tucking up that back foot is reallllly important
@mstunameow
@mstunameow Жыл бұрын
LOL practicing but I still get half-flips. The more I tuck and delay the flick the more my flick timing goes to sh*t
@geraldo669
@geraldo669 Ай бұрын
need to try
@mukoslumpgod4898
@mukoslumpgod4898 Жыл бұрын
I’ve struggled with kickflips my entire time skating, and how you’ve perfectly explained each mechanic that goes into a kickflip has taught me that I have been doing one thing wrong resulting in my flips not coming out proper
@bkfounds
@bkfounds Жыл бұрын
"if you swing too early in baseball, the ball will go out of bounds" haha love it! you're def a skater!
@ryanyoung5607
@ryanyoung5607 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!! Excellent detailed walkthrough of these critical movements with the kick flip. Thank you for this I’ll be watching this many times and implementing these streps into my own learning process.🙏
@zecollecter8747
@zecollecter8747 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I see your improvement from videos from way back. You're seeing much deeper into tricks now. Love it!
@klpnvibes
@klpnvibes 10 ай бұрын
One of the most beautiful and clear video about PRO kickflip, love the Strike Spot theory, gg
@jeffli480
@jeffli480 Жыл бұрын
These tips are awesome! The way you explained Malto’s flick really illustrates a big point - that the technique is going to be different depending on each person. I think we all want to find a one size fit all secret, when it really depends on how you individually figure out how to do it. One important thing I think might be helpful to add is that a good kickflip continues traveling upward after the flick as it flips and hits its peak when you catch it.
@kamaelea4060
@kamaelea4060 Жыл бұрын
I never really struggled with getting my kickflips higher but bro this is a goldmine for newer skaters right here. Best kickflip trick tip video ever made
@lZlSHINTANi
@lZlSHINTANi Жыл бұрын
That part about the knee really was really informative. I'm in the stage of correcting my rocketed kickflips and noticed I have a better chance of leveling out my board if I lead with the knee.
@donovanhays
@donovanhays Жыл бұрын
This isn't just a good tutorial on how to make your kickflips better, it's the missing piece in most "how to kick flip" videos. This timing can be hard to figure out on your because I was doing the exact same thing of trying to pop and flick at the same time instead of focusing on popping but keeping the board under your hip for a moment and then kicking out for the flick. Not saying you're going to get it right away obviously lol but it does give you something to think about when you're trying to get the timing down. When I teach people how to ollie I have them do a very similar thing. I tell them to focus on the pop and getting the board up and not to worry about their front foot. It's nice to break tricks down into smaller pieces that you can work on and then put together.
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Yeah most people don’t think through any of that
@11bangbang402
@11bangbang402 Жыл бұрын
This is the holy grail of tutorials for kick flips. I have been battling to get my kickflips to level out like this. When i try to level them out i either whiff the flick entirely or i somehow end up way ahead of my board. When I’m on carpet or stationary i can do them but in motion it just wasn’t happening. Thanks for this video. It was the final brain connector I needed to practice this more!
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Glad it helped!
@benzo1289
@benzo1289 Жыл бұрын
Props for filming this video outside still looking super cold out!
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Always!
@BEBO_2002
@BEBO_2002 Жыл бұрын
This video is helping me learn so much. Ive only been kickfliping for a few months but this will definitely keep consistency. Thanks!
@fabig5319
@fabig5319 Жыл бұрын
Super underrated video. I had my kickflips down but I slowly started losing them. You reminded me about being patient after the pop and flicking out to make the board level while I’m in the air. I appreciate you sir 🤝
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@WhyBecause.
@WhyBecause. 4 ай бұрын
Thats solid analysis dude!!
@Dfort_
@Dfort_ 5 ай бұрын
I always come back to this video, so informational
@josetrevino7143
@josetrevino7143 Жыл бұрын
This was soooo enlightening. Sure could have used this insight about 20 years ago lol.
@SlowBurn_
@SlowBurn_ Жыл бұрын
Exactly the channel I need to help me progress my fingerboarding.
@chrisbambrough5048
@chrisbambrough5048 Жыл бұрын
Love your analytical explanations man, really helps out. Keep em coming.
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@trevorbaird3827
@trevorbaird3827 Жыл бұрын
This is the most clear explanation I’ve ever seen. Well done man. An important addendum is that it seems to me that the way one switch flips and regular flips can be completely different. This is due to balance and flexibility differences between your legs. When I kickflip goofy, my right foot is more centered and close to the front bolts and I flick closer to that center line you talked about. When I switch flip, it’s more like Nyjah where more of the heel hangs off and the left foot is about one and a half inches behind the bolts because I’m more interested in completing the rotation and less worried about height. If I try to reverse forms, it doesn’t work so well. The arms also seem to be a big factor. Think about when you’re trying to touch the backboard of a basketball hoop or jump onto a high box. The arms swing forward and up in a completely different way. Paul’s kickflip is an interesting study in how when one looks down from the chin with slightly hunched shoulders, you can almost see his arms flying backwards in relation to his shoulders. But since he’s craning downward they fly upwards in relation to his lower body and board and pull his body up in a different way.
@joseguzman9448
@joseguzman9448 Жыл бұрын
Realy well observed and realy well explained,If i could have Had your advice 30 years ago then ... Thanx vor your expert eye
@fritzblitz8374
@fritzblitz8374 Жыл бұрын
I will definitely try these tips. :) Thank you man. Love your vids. Keep it up!
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Thanks man hope they help!
@kngznart
@kngznart Жыл бұрын
I'm at 4:30 and this is already one of the most valuable skate videos I've ever watched. I've never seen anybody explain or point this out before. What else am I gonna find out about in the 14 minutes still to go in this video? I am hyped.😁🔥🔥🔥
@endthedrugwartoday
@endthedrugwartoday Жыл бұрын
Great video. Good as a loveletter!
@malaowala
@malaowala Жыл бұрын
i gotta say, this really unlocked the kickflip for me. I know you've said to keep your knee in front before but i never really applied until today. you just made my thursday into a friday my dude!
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Haha heck yeah man!
@garyvoigt321
@garyvoigt321 Жыл бұрын
I learned kickflips in 1989 on a very flat, heavy board. I was taught by a freestyle skater, so flicking down and fast was the way... It took a long time to slowly adapt to the concave of newer boards and pulling the flick up higher. But I have to say that if I had your knowledge and ability to break these down to the detailed techniques, my kickflip would have been sooooooo goood. Long story short, I wish I had a Local Joe helping me out back then. Good work, man.
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
haha that's kind of you to say
@AndyTheChef
@AndyTheChef Жыл бұрын
This one video literally took my kickflips from rocketing to popping them onto ledges and ninja kicking shit
@sphamandlamncedisi572
@sphamandlamncedisi572 6 ай бұрын
Honestly Thebes best video ever on point with every little detail, this should make kickfliping into stuff a lot easier 👏
@Bob.Gnarley
@Bob.Gnarley Жыл бұрын
Woke up and immediately played this. Thanks for the vid Joe 🙏🏾
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support homie! ❤️🙏🏼
@mulekezicanorole
@mulekezicanorole Жыл бұрын
props man, youre doing a very good progression. thanks for the help
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@WhatsMyNameAgain93
@WhatsMyNameAgain93 10 ай бұрын
Back skating after 7 years away and all I've done the times I've been out is practice kickflips. They were my worst trick in my previous 13 years of skating but I've forgotten so much that I feel now is the perfect time to relearn the right way. Thanks for the tips!
@Shitfoot
@Shitfoot Жыл бұрын
Hey man, this was done really well- Great Vid - Thanks!!!
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@apealeal3973
@apealeal3973 Жыл бұрын
Amazing content .. instantly subbed.. i tried this today at my local and was flipping more flat
@thundernixon
@thundernixon Жыл бұрын
YOOO this video came at the *perfect* time for me. I’ve been battling to figure out the kickflip since July, and watching every tutorial, and working hard at it most days, and I finally landed three rolling kickflips over the past week … but still felt like I just did *not* have it figured out. BUT, the advice here to let the nose come up higher and closer under my hip really unlocked something for me. I just landed 5 kickflips in today’s session! Thank you, Joe!
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Yesss! 🙌
@Skankhunt-hl9zj
@Skankhunt-hl9zj Жыл бұрын
Keep your shoulder straight and don’t look forward at the bolt it will force you to commit and land bolts.
@Outeggy
@Outeggy Жыл бұрын
this helped me understand the kickflips a lot, barely started to do them again seriously and they kept rocketing, but all i need to do now is just slide my foot higher
@estevanbourquard3913
@estevanbourquard3913 Жыл бұрын
thank you for you work, it really helps
@ponyboy7825
@ponyboy7825 Жыл бұрын
This is best kickflip information on the internet period. Great breakdown Joe.
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@carlosgpacheco1621
@carlosgpacheco1621 Жыл бұрын
excellent explanation! thanks a lot!!!
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@GeekLevelAsian
@GeekLevelAsian Жыл бұрын
Wow, this was the video I needed like 20 years ago. The third step, has always been my problem. I'm slightly bowe legged so my knee always goes naturally off to the side instead of forward. I'm on and off. I'll have a day where my kickflips look solid, and then bam...rocket flips. It's like when you start shanking in Golf.
@6rid_
@6rid_ Жыл бұрын
I practice my kick flips by just standing on the tail and flicking i still do it today. it def helps you get that late flick. great vid btw loved it
@Truejello
@Truejello 11 ай бұрын
This was super helpful. Are you in So. Utah?
@ValidX1
@ValidX1 Жыл бұрын
Needed this💯❗️
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Hope it helps!
@phatallbutt7879
@phatallbutt7879 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate Joe’s commentary here. Everything he said is true. But left out ankle importance. Malto’s switch flip is a perfect picture of loading up the ankle before the flick. It increases the flick pressures without opening the hip and shoulders. That’s how he can flick almost straight forward and still get a nice flip. By loading the ankle I mean rolling the side an even some of the upper foot into the board as it lifts, then unwinding it as the flick.
@birdo18
@birdo18 Жыл бұрын
Great video, all this is true!! When I think of it, get you’re Ollie’s high with a bone after you get that down good, just do the same think with a kickflip. Just wait till you peak Ollie and just kickflip!
@CHRIS-ql7cv
@CHRIS-ql7cv Жыл бұрын
A good tip that I got for flicking a bit later is to flick when I hear the pop and flick straight this helped a lot for me
@tinormous-road2gains13
@tinormous-road2gains13 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Joe
@4milosevic
@4milosevic Жыл бұрын
Joe thank you for your videos 🙌 love it
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jonathanginofilippi
@jonathanginofilippi Жыл бұрын
Notice also that people also are pulling their whole board backside with the flick, and then they aim all the way back across the board for the catch. Also remember you gotta be back a little, then moving forward, then pop, as you are moving forward, so you are bringing the board with you. That is essential to really kickflip
@rogerdavis9962
@rogerdavis9962 Жыл бұрын
🤘💪...great vid...
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it!!
@hudsonllc1739
@hudsonllc1739 Жыл бұрын
Love this video homie, Top tier Content.
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Thanks man glad you like it!
@robowenmikels
@robowenmikels Жыл бұрын
I've been known to rip through just about any shoe in a few days because I love doing kickflips 😁 I'm talking, skating for 6+ hours, each day, and doing lots of KFs or KF variations (backside flips, half-cab flips, etc) throughout the day. I've learned and advanced my kickflip over the years and would consider mine to be an early 3rd stage Kickflip out of 4 stages. I set my flips up with my leading foot's toes putting pressure down along the center point of the rotational axis and with the big toe pressing over the line, medialward and when I pop, I slide up and away from the board, directing all that pressure along the center of the board, towards the point on the edge of the board where the side and tip of the board, meet - with that method of pressure and flick, it's almost certain that I land a KF first try without warming up my flick leg. I have done the off the tip of the nose KF over flat gaps, before, too. If I'm doing a frontside kickflip on mini..well, I'm still figuring out if I should kick, downward in the flick box or kick, through the nose. Both ways have worked, one is tighter and the other, get's you more, hangtime and allows for gaping, further, horizontally.
@nicgalano854
@nicgalano854 8 ай бұрын
Thanks bro
@flexmode5301
@flexmode5301 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know kickflips could be a college course but damn you had me paying attention 😂 good shit man 🎉
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
haha thanks man!
@jheanc7083
@jheanc7083 Жыл бұрын
One of the best kickflip related video ever made
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! 🙏🏼❤️
@jmclazer
@jmclazer Жыл бұрын
this is really good
@daemoarkenstone7261
@daemoarkenstone7261 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, using this video and others i have managed to find a foot placement that works for me and can bring the kickflip up to just above my knees and i can tell it looks pretty. BUT I JUST CAN"T CATCH THE DAMN THING!! I can land most small kickflips and land on the board as it hits the ground. Any extra tips on catching with your back foot at the peak of the height?
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
I’d say just keep your legs tucked longer than you think you need to especially your back leg
@carlitospushesgoofy
@carlitospushesgoofy Жыл бұрын
Love the way u explain things dude
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
I’m glad thanks man!
@carlitospushesgoofy
@carlitospushesgoofy Жыл бұрын
@@localjoe this video rlly helps my fakie flip cuz I tend to flick down for sum rzn
@msgesus4518
@msgesus4518 Жыл бұрын
One thing I've noticed is they all land behind the trajectory where they pop (eg they all end up jumping and landing backward toward their heel side). My natural ollie trajectory is toward my toe side. I think it's worth noting and trying to practice.
@grubz5011
@grubz5011 Жыл бұрын
Credit where it's due the hip nose thing unlocked switch flip consistency for me
@straightupgamer354
@straightupgamer354 Жыл бұрын
Dude. tysm
@jaimysatish7819
@jaimysatish7819 Жыл бұрын
Insane how well mike mo did that stationary kf
@leecarterreppinjesuschrist7686
@leecarterreppinjesuschrist7686 Жыл бұрын
I love your vids mate.. jus wondered how long you been skating. And how many hours a day do you averagely practice.. love from the U.K
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Depends I sometimes skate 6 days a week lately I’m lucky if I can skate 3 times a week for a couple hours. I been skating since I was 7 but stopped from 13 to 21 and some other bigger breaks too
@SunnyRawka
@SunnyRawka Жыл бұрын
That cookie metaphor was niiiiiiiice 🤓🤌
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Haha thanks glad you liked it!
@R3alWear
@R3alWear Жыл бұрын
Wow, your ingredients mindset is next level thinking
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Thanks man just how I think it’s a blessing and a curse
@EugenioHertz
@EugenioHertz 6 ай бұрын
as soon as cold let me , ill try that. im getting back from an 8 years pause, so the body is still getting used to the tricks
@jaciobe
@jaciobe Жыл бұрын
Good tip
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Cheers mate!
@mulekezicanorole
@mulekezicanorole Жыл бұрын
seriously now, ive landed a kickflip nose manual , two times in my life , with a time gap of like 5 years, i think that im gonna be able to do it now cause i really understood the motion
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah hope you get it!
@tonygarcia1537
@tonygarcia1537 Күн бұрын
You are the pioneer for teaching skate theory lol
@november2154
@november2154 Жыл бұрын
Bro can you explain how to getting into a back feebs? Its so awkward to me i keep getting into a boardslide no matter what i do hope you help me thanks🙏🙏
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
I wish they are a trick im really bad at. Search local joe vs back feeble I think I made on of me learning
@Jaysko503
@Jaysko503 Жыл бұрын
I wish people would say how lizard king waits for his tail to be completely off the ground before he flicks I thinks that's been my problem I've been thinking popping was just popping never realized that I gotta wait for the board to be completely off the ground tail and all
@nickwhitley472
@nickwhitley472 Жыл бұрын
Mike mo got a mean flick. Look at how tweaked his ankle gets
@ace2044
@ace2044 Жыл бұрын
best skateboard teacher ever
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
haha idk about that but thank you!
@davidoldskater5502
@davidoldskater5502 Жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, your video is very interesting, bravo, but I think you don't talk enough about the importance of the ankle for the flick: it's the ankle that makes the flick, the height of the kickflip will depend on the height your knee, and your back leg, but not the flick... In a theory, if I just want to do a "little" kickflip, I don't need the attack zone but on the other hand my ankle ... Thank you ++
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
yeah I agree. The flick is so fickle if you only focus on the ankle and it's a feeling thing. I think if you do the 4 ingredients you'll be in a position to flick however you want fast slow or in between. There are somethings that are so subtle I'm not sure I'd be able to explain it well.
@davidoldskater5502
@davidoldskater5502 Жыл бұрын
@@localjoe thanks perfect !
@cubeboarder7261
@cubeboarder7261 Жыл бұрын
the best kickflip tutorial ever
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I really tried hard to explain in depth!
@crazybiscut
@crazybiscut Жыл бұрын
Ok this is the holy grail of the kick flip trick tip
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Haha believe it or not I still have plenty more to talk about.
@gabrielalvarodepaiva9972
@gabrielalvarodepaiva9972 11 ай бұрын
Man wtf, you just save my kickflips "diretamente do brasil, vlw manow🎉"😊
@tinormous-road2gains13
@tinormous-road2gains13 Жыл бұрын
Montrose skate park Colindale London
@richardlevalds3983
@richardlevalds3983 11 ай бұрын
I ride goofy and when i kickflip my right arm just goes behind my back , if anyone could help me thay would awesome
@dzoeny9186
@dzoeny9186 11 ай бұрын
I practice doing them fakie/ pretend that I am doing it fakie forces you to lead with you’re knee
@SkateDaddyDrewski
@SkateDaddyDrewski Жыл бұрын
Amazing metaphor. Completely true. Im not pro but I have "pro" kickflips..... Thats basically all I have... Anyways... Very accurate video.
@Vinny_Capatony
@Vinny_Capatony 8 ай бұрын
My board just stays glued to my foot and shoots off to the side where I tried to flick it.. looks like a solid Ollie But no matter how hard I “flick” my ankle or leg my board won’t get tf off my foot.. sorry but it’s frustrating
@zero_jams
@zero_jams Жыл бұрын
You unlocked it! When you said lead with your knee I got what I was doing. You saved my kickflips bro. Skate on🛹
@Fishstix_
@Fishstix_ Жыл бұрын
Does this work with heelflips too?
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
You already know! It’s not exactly the same the but principles are still valid
@yusufumakhanov3150
@yusufumakhanov3150 Жыл бұрын
Any lifehacks for a better kickflip?
@zhenyangshen5433
@zhenyangshen5433 Жыл бұрын
Chinese skater thank you,great video
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Shout out Chinese skaters!
@tharsitt3785
@tharsitt3785 Жыл бұрын
I trying kickflip for 3 months but still cant land both feet i can land only with my front foot not only kickflip but also heelflip landed with only front foot Am i just scare of landing both feet or idk why. Why I jump flick and then my back foot is on the ground already Sorry for my bad english
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
You aren’t letting the kickflip happen under you you’re trying to watch it in front of you. Get the nose under your front hip before you flick and you’ll be on your way
@thevernonposse
@thevernonposse Жыл бұрын
Sewa has the best flat ground skills his kick flip is insane
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
I should do a kickflip breadown with sewa
@thevernonposse
@thevernonposse Жыл бұрын
@@localjoe absolutely his bag of tricks and board control is really nice to watch
@igetitlitsoicansit2950
@igetitlitsoicansit2950 Жыл бұрын
@@localjoe really should. HIs is different then the others you've covered. he has a quick snappy kickflip. Also check out Dennis Durant, he has a 10 year old video i never seen until today and its pretty dam good.
@cannonsquad
@cannonsquad Жыл бұрын
Now I’m hungry and want some cookies 🍪
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Haha the b roll was next level
@johnnyharperscoutstable5386
@johnnyharperscoutstable5386 Жыл бұрын
Alright 🐸🍺🔪🔥
@GoGoSkate
@GoGoSkate Жыл бұрын
I think the real reason is that pro get PAID to skateboard. I would personally find that very motivating.
@jamescat2386
@jamescat2386 Жыл бұрын
amusing that you used that clip of Rodney Mullen as an example of doing kickflips badly :-)
@robertolopez2282
@robertolopez2282 Жыл бұрын
@armanimckoy2168
@armanimckoy2168 3 ай бұрын
I could have gone pro if you put this video out 10 years ago 😂
@ethansmyth8110
@ethansmyth8110 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I do a high kickflip on accident lol
@localjoe
@localjoe Жыл бұрын
Now you know why!
@rawrbrz
@rawrbrz 24 күн бұрын
Really what makes skating so hard is you’re having to learn micro second movements with your whole body and all 4 limbs doing different sh*t
@ELRIPY
@ELRIPY Жыл бұрын
I cant flick my front foot (im goofy) i have almost zero ankle movement its fuckin hard to flick almost impossible i really cant
@ddbeats632
@ddbeats632 9 ай бұрын
Panic flicking…that’s me
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