Rosa is the best White Mage in the entire FF series. She’s a BEAST.

Rosa is definitely god tier. She can do great physical damage and she has way more survivability than Edge or Rydia which is good because she is the one reviving. In some boss fights it’s easier to let Edge and Rydia drop while Cecil, Rosa and Kain take on the boss

Funny thing is that if you get Edward to like lv 60 which in the version you can use him to the final team is very easy his stats sky rocket

Edward is nice in the versions of the game where he has 8 songs to cast. Cid is OK in versions of the game where his Peep/Inspect ability works on every enemy AND where the game keeps track of enemy health after they've been scanned once. Also I noticed when grinding for levels that Cid has better health than Cecil, and roughly the same defense since he can equip good armor during that brief period you have him. But yeah, like most people I was glad when he finally left the party.

I really like Rosa, heh. And i also really like your videos! I've been looking forward to this tier list, thanks man!

Great lists as per usual! You deserve many more subscribers

Yessir after years would be great! Mid game at best, but it's such a fun game to make a tier list for since it's just full of characters

Yes after years please! I wanna play it but I don't own it and I don't have the time for a grand rpg. Your lists are great and I recently subscribed even tho you said I didn't have too lol. Keep it up!

As for edge I tend to use a boomerang and katana because for some reason having edge with a boomerang in his right hand makes the whole attack long range so for the normal end game party my formation is b f b f b with kain and cecil in front

I would very much like a tier list of the After Years. Sporting one of the largest character rosters in FF history.

Love this channel so much! Didn't necessarily agree with the list, but a very fun watch anyway! I also just have a different playstyle sooooo... Honestly, it's a hard game to rank with so many versions lol 😅 an FF4 character ranking was my first video I ever made lol

I tend to rank parties instead of individual characters. The game constantly forces you to change you party and thus your tactics. Some parties are designed to be more of a challenge than others. Going up to Mt Ordeals with dark knight Cecil, and the magnet cave before you defeat the dark elf are my two least favorite. I usually just run from battles until I get through these sections and check the chests later once I don't have a handicap. For me characters are more about what role they serve in my party. Bad party members often just don't stand out as another party member does the job better. Porom suffers from having Tellah in the party most of the time and she doesn't have as much utility as Tellah (and later paladin Cecil) can heal too. Cid doesn't stand out because he's a physical attacker but Yang and Cecil are better. Then you get Kain making Cid the weakest in a party of 4 physical attackers. Edward I don't mind as I use him to status an enemy that is not currently being attacked to keep it incapacitated. The sages (Tellah and FuSoYa) I find that Osmose is a necessity for them to keep their MP high and their utility with both black and white magic is incredibly useful.

Edward is actually kinda insane in the GBA and PSP versions 😅 and he's fine in the DS versions lol, hastemarch life's blessing and hero's song are pretty good 😅 cid is not too bad or good in GBA and 100% trash in the 3D versions

Insert excited cotton candy toddler gif! Thanks, Lo. Never enough FFIV content, even if it's scary to tackle.

My favorite Final Fantasy, I’ve played this more than any other.

I've soloed all bosses with edge, Berserk, haste, atk power up, sit back and relax boss done. Add in a slow for good measure.

White Mages are S tier in a lot of FF games. Rosa is especially important because nobody comes close to matching her healing abilities and the damage ratios in FF4 demand high-volume healing. No megalixirs in sight, either (at least the original releases).

I have to ask, you were nervous about doing this game... How do you feel about making a tier list for the playable cast in Hajimari no Kiseki (trails into reverie)? If you haven't been keeping up with the series, there are 51 playable characters in that one =P. Though I guess suikoden games still have more lol.

Great video I don't disagree with any of it

personally, i put Decil above Pecil. reason being.... why the FCK should i care about his white magic? sure it's situationally good but so are items. his cover mechanic is cool and all but rather situational as well. his hp and defenses are bonkers though so good on him for those. but Decil's darkness ability is just insanely useful for screen clearing in the versions that it's an AoE and in the DS where it's a huge buff it's technically even better. the only thing stunting him is equipment and weakness to undeads. but he has a sword that can insta-kill and against undeads throwing potions is a thing. dunno just kinda wish we could have had a NG+ where we could keep Decil. or could interchange between the forms at will like his dissidia stuff.

Niicely done....Definetely after years please

Cid is awesome! Especially in the GBA version

Your crazy for doing this

What is that game in the beginning with the heart interface?

An After Years video would be cool. I feel like im one of the few that enjoyed it 😅😅

It’s so unfortunate you can’t use all the party members in the DS version, that’s when they’re all at their best….i remember even Edgar being somewhat useful. Plus everyone is much more tanky, so Edgar’s bard songs were actually useful. Magic Rods work better in the DS version, even the very first Magic Rod, the “Rod” did very respectable damage when casting its spell (Mage Masher I think was the name of its spell), and the Stardust Rod is a straight up free nuke with the only drawback being it takes longer to charge than spells that consume MP. Then there’s Rosa, I don’t have to discuss the usefulness in having unlimited arrows lol….Cid also did good damage in the DS version, and could take hits okay, though he was probably the most boring character lol The DS version is a bit harder at first, and maybe has somewhat harder boss fights, but has a much more consistent difficulty spike as you play the game, where as new areas will just kick the shit out of you in the older versions…..I’ve never played a version that allows you to switch party members in and out, but omg I can’t imagine using anyone but the end 5…..MAYBE Cid or Yang could replace Edge if you really wanted to do that, but I don’t see the benefit

I definitely agree with Cid being shit tier. He has no good abilities, his hammers deal less damage than any other physical attacker. In the games where you can swap him in at the end, I just wouldn’t, he’s bad, unless you want a challenge. Challenge run for the final boss could be Porom, Cid, Edward (if you don’t get his super busted gear in his trial dungeon otherwise he’ll become a God of DPS as he’ll get two turns to every other characters one and he becomes untargetable with hide), Palom, and Cecil (because he can’t be switched out). Cecil will be doing a lot of the heavy lifting DPS wise with this party.

Really nice list :) Edward and Cid are actully quite formiddable in the psp remake. Though being said. They are awful in their part in the game itself. And Yang imo is a god tier charachter with his end game gear. But I largely agree with this list :) nicely done!!!

I would've put Edge on top because Steal, but agree with everybody else's placement! I now have a higher attachment to Porom because she was one of my first white mages in FFRK, but agree she doesn't bring anything Rosa can't in IV.

The ATB system is not “out-of-date” that’s an awful take.

I only played the SNES version and when you got to Rydia I thought 'eh? I thought Edge was the one that was always dying'. But then you said the ds version+ buffed his tankiness by a lot, and you STILL criticized his survivability. So eh, I guess I agree. I played my snes ff4 to death, got the artemis bow and the dragon whip for Rydia (well the bow is for rosa but I'm just saying I got the rare weapons). Given that like 1/3 of the trash in the final dungeon are dragons of some kind, Rydia actually makes a pretty decent physical attacker as well with the dragonwhip. Though when she finally learns flare it's hard to compete since it's a fast cast that consistently does cap or near cap damage.

Isn't Cecil a must have because you literally can't have a party without him?

Kain's jump is the only reason I beat Bahamut. I kept jumping at 1 so that mega flare would miss. I also gave rydia all the apples to raise her hp.

Please do The After Years! Even though all of my favorite characters in it are garbage!

You forgot about Golbez😢

Real fast S Tier Cecil (Paladin), Rosa A tier is Cecil(DK), Rydia, Kain. B tier Edge, Yang C tier Tellah Palom Porom CID D tier Edward Fuyaso??? F tier Kain again cause he pisses me off. (This is solely from the 3Ds version. I gave Rosa Dual cast and that made her kinda OP)

I wouldn't mind a tier list for the After Years. I will say though, I think Rosa is one of the hottest Final Fantasy girls of all time. Adult Rydia as well.

Edward should be also on the god tier as well because of how his stats Skyrocket at random after level 70. By the time you get to the lunar ruins and versions that allow you to change party members everybody should be around that level anyways. Even though his stats go up randomly if everybody is at level 99 Edward will have better stats than most of the cast. Also the way damage multipliers work in Final Fantasy 4 if an enemy is week to more than one thing they're it's going to increase how much damage is given. The Apollo's harp which is his third best weapon that you get for doing his trial in Mount ordeals deals extra damage to both dragons and things that are weak to Fire. Now think about how many dragons there are on the moon and in the lunar subterrain. In the Game Boy Advance version there is what is known as the psycho Edward glitch if you cast berserk on Edward and he goes into low hit points he will hide but instead of regular hiding when he comes back out on his next turn he will attack an enemy then go back and hiding immediately. He will only come out in hiding if he is the last party member left so due to the psycho Edward glitch you have one character who was literally impervious. Edward is simultaneously the worst character in the franchise and the most broken.

Of course it holds up… FF4 is the greatest game of all time. P.S. the after years does not exist. Perhaps someday it will be made.

I'm back here after playing the pixel remaster after only playing the GBA and PSP port where you can change the party...Edge is the worst party member in JRPGs. He starts out underleveled (he was 15 levels lower than everyone else when I got him with Rydia doing more damage,more HP and better defence),he only has a few long range weapons and you have to buy them before he joins and you are cut off on returning there for awhile and anything he can do everyone else can do better. He starts behind and he stays left behind due to him having 0hp at the end of most battles.

Its too bad you don't like this game. FF4 is my favorite in the entire series and I've played them all. Whats funny is with the exception of FF2 I've heard people say that each different game in the series was their favorite. My top three favs of the whole series are 1: FF4, 2: FF Tactics and 3: FF13. I'm also not sure why 13 gets so much hate. The ending of that game I felt was amazing.

I'll tell who it isn't EDWARD! 😆

Rubicante.

For your trails into reverie list i would Wish that you do Not Rush that list an make IT a longer Video Like 30min or so😊

bro im the same with not being the biggest fan of ff4

Tellah too low, he's honestly there for quite a while, consistently useful, and leaves when he would cease to be. Cid also seems more like a low tier character to me, I never really had any issues with him dying and his damage is okay. Not comparable to Edward imo.

Nani!?!?!?!?

Who isn't best IV is amazing everyone in IV is great minus Edward i won't acknowledge his emo crybabyness 💀

Very few items are worth stealing and eve and lv 70 it fails too often anyways.

No FF is worse than 9.

It's prob the 3rd or 4th best final fantasy game. 1. FF VI 2. FF XII 3. FF IV 4. FF VII