MIDI Guitar 3 - Setting up Kontakt MULTIS to work with MPE

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LoFiLeif

LoFiLeif

Күн бұрын

In this video I show an easy way to set up Kontak as a MULTIt to work with MIDI Guitar 3 and the MPE Polyphonic bends. I also show you how to use MIDI Learn to set up a rudimentary Brightness/CC74 assignment.
0:00 intro
01:00 The MG nylon with no bends
1:43 Setting up a multi
2:30 Change the bend range on the Kontakt module
3:25 Create a template
3:45 Template x6
4:10 Change OMNI to channels 2-7 respectively
4:30 Save MULTI as
5:12 A difference between MIDI 1.0 and MPE
6:40 Grumpy Monkey Plugins Pitch Wheel Override
8:00 The Straight Ahead Samples JB-145 Archtop
8:33 Setting up Xperimenta Preparation guitar with Brightness/CC74
10:00 Caveat: you don't NEED the Modulators in MG3 to pass on Brightness to instruments
10:40 Using the Modulators
12:01 Using SINE to Modulate Brightness
13:30 Try stuff, you won’t beat anything
Link to Grumpy Monkey Plugins Pitch Wheel Override (It is Free):
grumpymonkeyplugins.com/produ...
Link to the JamOrigin MIDI Guitar page:
www.jamorigin.com

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@xFliox
@xFliox 4 ай бұрын
I've never in my entire life played so much guitar, by changing the sounds, changes the way you play and it always shows you a new way to use the same frets and patterns, I all have is gratitude for everyone involved in this work.
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Thanks 🙏 If you are happy, I am happy 😀👍
@wlfwrk
@wlfwrk 4 ай бұрын
I cannot wait for this to come out for windows. I'm currently using the 2nd version and it was really life changing and made guitar fun for me again for the first time in years.
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
I know how you feel. I had the same experience with MIDI Guitar 2. I hope you get equally as much out of MG3. 👍
@arthurivex2298
@arthurivex2298 27 күн бұрын
Wow, thank you. I didn't know I can do that. Although I am still using MG2. that's great info for Kontak!
@lumena1921
@lumena1921 3 ай бұрын
I really loved the explanation of using cc74/brightness with the xpermenta patch. It would be great to go in depth with that kind of mapping. Thank you! I am a big fan.
@lofileif
@lofileif 3 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏 Much apprechiated!
@aquaticborealis4877
@aquaticborealis4877 4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to trying this
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
I hear you! 👍
@JimRobitailleMusic
@JimRobitailleMusic 4 ай бұрын
Excellent Overview.
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Jim 🙏
@hjvarfjell
@hjvarfjell 4 ай бұрын
Wow! That was really interesting. It didn't occur to me that you could use multis to overcome the lack of MPE support in Kontakt libraries that way. Really ingenious. Keep it coming. 😊 👍
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
This way of working have been suggested by ROLI and there is also a little MPE script for Kontakt floating around. There is way more stuff possible to do going into settings and messing around, but I wanted to keep to the bare minimum basic level here. 😀👍
@liviofraschetti4713
@liviofraschetti4713 4 ай бұрын
This video is the answer to my question ,playing midi guitar software with guitar
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Makes me glad to hear! 😀👍
@francescodamico7903
@francescodamico7903 4 ай бұрын
I think you are one of my favourite jazz trumpet players !! :-D Great !
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Now, THAT is a compliment! 😀🙏🙏🙏
@MrTL99
@MrTL99 4 ай бұрын
WOW! Great explanation of yours...as always! I hope you won't get 'offended' if I call a Great GURU! Thank to you, I can't wait to have MG3! Thank you very much!
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
No offense taken! 😀 Thank you 🙏
@jumpstar9000
@jumpstar9000 22 күн бұрын
Thanks for the link ❤❤
@lofileif
@lofileif 22 күн бұрын
Any time! 👍
@tomwatson283
@tomwatson283 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Looking forward to the release. Whenever that is? Fantastic.
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Tom! 🙏The beta testing procedure will determine release, so...I have no date, unfortunately! 🤷‍♂️
@tomwatson283
@tomwatson283 4 ай бұрын
@@lofileif I'm VERY sure it'll be worth the wait.
@mafiashpagety
@mafiashpagety 3 ай бұрын
Danke.
@lofileif
@lofileif 3 ай бұрын
Thank YOU 👈🙏
@sepic5407
@sepic5407 4 ай бұрын
I cannot wait for this to come out version for polyPhonic pickUp (hex six divided)
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Let's all hope for a working HexPU implementation. 👍
@xFliox
@xFliox 4 ай бұрын
You've been playing a lot, it shows
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@jumpstar9000
@jumpstar9000 22 күн бұрын
Superb. It might be nice if you can have an option to allow picking random voices (midi channels) rather than 2,3,4.. when it allocates voices. That way you can have slightly different tones on each and get variations on each chord strum. It would be similar to how paraphonic works on say the Sequential PRO3. But as I said, minor. I'm absolutely over the moon with it.
@lofileif
@lofileif 22 күн бұрын
That is already possible! Setup in a plugin host like Kushview Element (for a plugin version inside MG3) or in GigPerformer to work with MG3 as a plugin in that environment. From there you can send single notes/channels to whatever setup you like and have them rotate or whatever. It is up to you to find the workflow that is best for you. MG3 can't be everything at once, you know.
@jumpstar9000
@jumpstar9000 22 күн бұрын
@@lofileif 👍😎🔥
@PeterHarket
@PeterHarket 4 ай бұрын
Great as always. Do you know if there is per note bend possibilities with any of the following Kontakt libraries/engines: Evolution Series from Orange Three Samples / Shreddage Series Pedal Steel and Django Guitar from Impact Soundworks / Electrici6ty & Acou6tics from Vir2 / The guitars Ilya Efimov.
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Peter.🙏 The only one I have tried of those you mention is the OT Evolution Boutique Acoustic, which needs no setting up for the polyphonic bends to work. And it plays rather nice too. I would love to try everything, but I can't afford it. Any company that would be interested in having their products tested are more than welcome to contact me, but I am not expecting much. I even have tickets out with the big names in the business, just to get their instruments working (maybe a future video) 😬 I have very little hope for most developers in general that make their instruments with keyboards in mind primarily, and let every other controller users be afterthoughts. We need developers to start developing directly for MIDI Guitar to get real life-like playability. 👍
@PeterHarket
@PeterHarket 4 ай бұрын
Thanks@@lofileif! I have some of the libraries I mentioned, so once I get my hands on the beta version, I can start testing. When I have them tested, I can also send out some support tickets as it might help to have additional requests :)
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
But don't you have a Roli Seaboard? Or am I mistaken? You should be able to test many libraries MPE compatibility with that?
@PeterHarket
@PeterHarket 4 ай бұрын
@@lofileif Yes - that is correct. I guess I just have never used it with the Kontakt libraries, but this reinvigorated the interest. Thanks!
@krazzarazz
@krazzarazz 2 ай бұрын
Is it possible to play faster strums? What I’m looking for is using my guitar sample libraries. Is the latency bearable? Great work and thanks for you sharing. 😊
@lofileif
@lofileif 2 ай бұрын
Jag chansar på att du pratar svenska? Strumming ör fortfarande ett problem med de allra flesta instrument. Det är inte så mycket trackingen i MG3 som är problemet, som att instrumenten är gjorda för en annan typ av kontroller (oftast keyboard). Jag her hittat några guldklimpar bland traditionella Kontakt instrument som faktiskt tolererar strums och ett nästan hundraprocentigt gitarristiskt spelsätt. Men de tillhör fortfarande undantagen. Det kommer nog att bli bättre ganska snart med MPE synthar och instrument som i bästa fall skrivs direkt för MIDI Gitarr. Latencyn är knappt märkbar, men då bör du också veta att jag aldrig hade problem med den i MG2 heller. Så om du har upplevt att det var ett stort problem, så kanske du känner av den i MG3 också? Vad vet jag? Den går ju inte att få bort helt, givet att gitarrljudet ska analyseras och konverteras till MIDI/MPE.(If, by chance, you are not speaking Swedish, I apologize for the inconvenience of having to resort to Google translate) 😀👍
@krazzarazz
@krazzarazz 2 ай бұрын
@@lofileif det var bland det snabbaste svar jag varit med om :) Tack. Jag köpte en gr-55 och fishman midit men har inte fått till någon spelbarhet. (Har inte lagt timmar på det dock) Vill kunna spela in midi från gitarren och använda mina surt köpta bibliotek för att få klockrent ljud. (Trodde jag skulle bli bättre på keyboard än jag blivit :) Jag ska testa betan. Kanske det räcker för mina behov. Vet du om det kommer att bli någon uppgraderingskostnad om man köper 2’an? Tack återigen för ditt engagemang. 👍🏻
@lofileif
@lofileif 2 ай бұрын
Ja, jag har också tagit svängen över Rolands grejer. Hade Gr33, VG88, VG99, GR55 och GP10 innan jag gav upp på dom helt. Har också testat FishmanTriplePlay, men var inte superimponerad av den heller. Den skall vara snabb(ast), men den har ju andra nackdelar: odynamisk MIDI och knöligt användargränssnitt. MIDI Guitar 3 är bättre i alla avseenden, men det har fortfarande begränsningar. Jag råder alla att prova innan de köper, och JamOrigin har ju väldigt fördelaktiga demoversioner. Så chansen att skaffa sig en välgrundad uppfattning of mjukvaran finns, för alla som är intresserade. Och vidare, alla som har en MG2 licens, uppgraderar till MG3 gratis. De är två olika appar, så man får egentligen dubbelt så mycket för pengarna om man köper MG2 först, men det är ju förstås en fråga om vad man finner mer intressant. 👍
@GianpaoloLuchesi
@GianpaoloLuchesi 5 күн бұрын
I am trying the trial , two Questions: 1. no midi puckup 2. does the trial allow to setup other vsts like you fo here with kontakt?
@lofileif
@lofileif 5 күн бұрын
Answers: 1. No , you don't need a MIDI pickup. The software use the guitar audio from you ordinary guitar pickups. So jsut connect you guitar diectly to an audio interface with nothing between, and you are good to go! 2. The trial is exactly the same software, but with some timeout function. So yes, you can setup all your VSTs.
@jurecehovin4039
@jurecehovin4039 4 ай бұрын
Hey @lofileif do you happen to know when they are planning release the beta testing of MG3 for everyone who signed up to the mailing list? As I understand currently the beta testing is only available for the owners of MIDI guitar 2, right?
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
You are correct in that JamOrigin is getting help with the beta testing first from its existing MacOS user base. Anyone interested in joining in can of course purchase a license to the "old" MIDI Guitar 2 software, to take part. Reading from the JamOrigin beta testing page "First round of BETA testing will be limited to customers of the MIDI GUITAR 2 plugin, and limited to MAC OS. A second round will for everybody who have signed up to our mailing list (you can sign up below). Windows and iOS versions will arrive here." www.jamorigin.com/beta/ I don't have a date for this. You best follow the page for updates and news. 👍
@jeffhogsten3803
@jeffhogsten3803 3 ай бұрын
Can you use a ten string instrument in perticular pedal steel with midi guitar 3
@lofileif
@lofileif 3 ай бұрын
Well, there is a techical limit to six simultaneouly played notes , due to the way MG3 makes use of MPE. The rest is more a question of pitch range. I believe the software now cover E2-E5 in the beta version. What JamOrigin will end up with for the finished version is not clear yet. What pitch range does pedal steel cover?
@futurelustmedia
@futurelustmedia 3 ай бұрын
Will MIDI guitar 3 work with Bass guitar too? And also one can easily use this as a layer to blend with your original guitar sounds live?
@lofileif
@lofileif 3 ай бұрын
There will be a MIDI Bass 2 version coming later. It will not be fully polyphonic, but instead duophonic because of the technical issues with the tracking in the lower octave. To your other question, you can absolutely blend. Use two tracks like I describe in the video with the Mix/blend function. 👍
@rirrid5662
@rirrid5662 4 ай бұрын
Are you using a midi interface to get string separation for bending and separate channels?
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Nope, just guitar straight into the audio interface. The MIDI Guitar3 software is responsible for turning that into MPE.
@rirrid5662
@rirrid5662 4 ай бұрын
Thanks I watched it again and you explained it well. Pretty incredible. @@lofileif
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
@rirrid5662 It really is a pretty incredible piece of software! 👍
@samuelallenmusic
@samuelallenmusic 4 ай бұрын
Any idea of how much latency is added to change guitar to midi? Is there an upgrade from second version?
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
I don't have any numbers, but there is a substantial improvement. With that said, that is my experience, and you shouldn't care too much about what I think. Better wait for your own test to make up your mind. 👍
@samuelallenmusic
@samuelallenmusic 4 ай бұрын
@@lofileif I can’t get access to Beta 😢 eagerly waiting its release so I can purchase
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Sorry, but there is not much I can do to speed up the process, I am afraid. 🤷‍♂️
@slidersson
@slidersson 2 ай бұрын
If I want to make full use of mpe, do the software instruments need to support this in anyway or is it just regular midi?
@lofileif
@lofileif 2 ай бұрын
The instruments needs to be MPE compatible for you to ”make full use” of it, but what constitute an MPE instrument is unfortunately not 100% clear. MPE is really not much more than old scool MIDI together with a defined distribution principle: with notes sent on a per-channel basis together with its own pitch bend and modulation information. So I don’t know how to answer your last question. You can use MG3 with any kind of instrument, it doesn’t care. But to make use of something like brightness on CC74 (for whatever is associated with the SLIDE dimension) you need an instrument that is prepared to recieve such information.
@slidersson
@slidersson 2 ай бұрын
@@lofileif Ok thanks alot! Lots of new things to learn for an old guitarist! 😂
@lofileif
@lofileif 2 ай бұрын
@slidersson You’ll be fine! 😀👍
@estarok
@estarok 3 ай бұрын
Midi Guitar 3 is available for the public now?
@lofileif
@lofileif 3 ай бұрын
No, still just in beta! 👍
@lukeyd13
@lukeyd13 4 ай бұрын
When will this be available to buy ?
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
No date set yet! JamOrigin has decided to work out any issues first with the betatesting and let that decide when the working product is ready for sale.
@yevgeniynikitenko9832
@yevgeniynikitenko9832 Ай бұрын
Hello, Is it possible to install this software on Windows 10?
@lofileif
@lofileif Ай бұрын
I am sorry, but I don’t know! I am only using Mac and the first stab at a Windows beta has just been out a week. But why don’t you try it for yourself. You can find the Windows beta as a zipfile in the developer’s post in the MIDI Guitar forum. jamosapien.com/t/shameless-unofficial-first-midi-guitar-3-beta-for-windows/7084
@catcomestomorrow2030
@catcomestomorrow2030 4 ай бұрын
Do you need kontakt 7?
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Of course not! Multis have been a thing as far back as I can remember.
@showbiztom
@showbiztom 4 ай бұрын
Can you play chords like on a real acoustic guitar with this setup?
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
There were plenty of chords in the video, and all is played and recorded in real time, so yes! Can I play everything in exactly the same way as on a ”real acoustic”. No! You still have to take into consideration that it is only the pitches from the guitar that is analysed and converted. Any non-pitch sound like pops or chugs or chaka-chakas are not going to be going translated correctly. 👍
@sepic5407
@sepic5407 4 ай бұрын
real chord KKm7 (knock-knock minor sept)
@showbiztom
@showbiztom 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!😊
@arataka57
@arataka57 4 ай бұрын
It's a shame this will never work with music notation software.
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
Sad, if true!
@davidoluwatosinstephen9897
@davidoluwatosinstephen9897 4 ай бұрын
Playing piano 🎹 on midi 3
@lofileif
@lofileif 4 ай бұрын
MIDI Guitar 3 - coming soon kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ib5gncd4srmrk40.html
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