I remember this. Poor Lofty.

I can see why Lofty was angry and upset, after all she never had Vicky aborted and she was only 16 then!!

Michelle didn't want to have a life like Pauline's, as a young struggling mother with an inferior unemployable husband, and she put a halt to it before it went too far. Social commentary in action. Eastenders had so much of it back then, and explored both sides of all the drama.

Pretty shitty thing to do to Lofty....

Den was instrumental in this storyline. He manipulated Michelle, paid for the abortion and advised her to dump Lofty. All this because he didn't want Lofty adopting Vicky.

This is back when Eastenders has so much social commentary about life in the UK. Michelle is in a situation where she's facing the prospect of having two children before she's even 20. She's looked at Pauline's miserable life and knows that will be her future unless she takes drastic action. When you look at it that way, you couldn't blame her.

I remember when tom watt was on talksport as a football pundit and taking calls from fans.

they should repeat all the episodes of eastenders

She should have told him she miscarried. He would have been devastated, but he wouldn't have blamed her.

Its good to know lofty has become a very successful business man

How could she do that?

The funny thing is Lofty is now rich...

Yeah but at least Tom Watt (Lofty) isn't sniffing around Enders every couple of years in the hope they take him back!

The nicer you are the more women resent you.

vicki didnt tell anyone she had an abortio9n til after

@MeBenHalpin It sure would have done and I reckon Lofty would have wanted to throttle Den after hearing that, especially as in the early days of the show, Den often patronized him when he worked at the Vic behind the bar.

@MeBenHalpin I can remember Michelle still being pregnant when she first tried to marry Lofty. Den picked a really great time to see her just before she was about to be hitched and that is what changed her mind, leading her to dump poor Lofty at the altar. Lofty would have verbally abused Den, blaming him for his marriage break-up and like you said, Pete and Arthur would have cornered him.

@MeBenHalpin Yeah, I reckon Pete would have landed a few on Den and Den knowing he's in the wrong would take it like a man and would feel utterly guilty about letting his friends down. I heard that when he was in prison in 1988 alongside Nick Cotton, Den got beaten up and took it well unlike Nasty Nick. Lofty and 'chelle's relationship reminds me of Kevin & Winnie in The Wonder Years. Kev thought the world of her but she didn't feel the same and often took him for granted.

Michelle was out of order aborting Lofty's baby.

Curly Watts was Gordon Gecko from Wall Street compared to Lofty

Poor Lofty !

she had a baby with den (kept his baby)then aborted lofty's baby then had a baby with grant (kept his baby)

Lofty touched me

@MeBenHalpin He actually did grab hold of her at the Fowlers' place, but I think Arthur and someone else (maybe Pete) restrained him. If it was me, I would have banished her from my life.

@MeBenHalpin I agree although like you said, Lofty looked up to Den and they even both worked together at The Dagmar. I think that is when they must have been quite pally. Also, didn't Michelle get pregnant before she got together with Lofty or was it during? I think she must have conceived in summer of '85, maybe just before she hooked up with Loft. I honestly don't think Loft would have hit him as Den would've put up a fight.

In later years, it's really shown how much of a trainwreck Michelle was and the type of woman who treats good guys badly and falls for the wrong ones. She keeps Den's child, someone who was old enough to be her Dad, but aborts Lofty's, oh yeah, and keeps Grant's chid. 🙄

@MeBenHalpin And also, Shelle and Winnie were both mixed up girls. Winnie had a craving for wild child type guys and I think this was partly because her brother had died in the war and he was one of those cool dude types. I think she really only saw Kev as a friend but only tagged along with him because she didn't want to hurt him. Yep, I have seen the links you sent me, cheers, mate. Just been watching a bit of Den in prison. That's very nasty of the old bill to do that. No wonder.

@MeBenHalpin I reckon Pete would have done most of the hitting with Arthur holding Den but somehow I reckon Den would have resisted as he was one guy who never took to letting people walk all over him and I can remember him threatening to hit Pauline back if she slapped him once more which shows that Mr. Watts wasn't to be messed with. I guess Michelle didn't want to hurt Lofty again and genuinely felt sorry for him, even though she didn't love him.

Surprised people didn't write in saying Michelle was a horrible character who had to go or maybe they did and producers ignored them knowing fine well they were setting evil examples.

She saw Den as good genes and that lofty as weak and genetically inferior.It’s an insult rooted in nature and very big.