Looks like a smooth ride though compared to rubber tire machine

I was thinking same thing

I used a Esco swinging grapple and considered it to cause less damage than cable and chokers.

I belive they do offer ultra-LGP models. (ultra low ground pressure) aka wide tracks for swamp logging. I'd absolutely hate to be one of the guys that had to fix a thrown r busted track though!!! Lololol. Could you imagine? Omg you'd be dragging it back out to the landing for sure. Then you'll need an excavator and a crane to fix it

So is the maintenance cost

Git it

We are doing several studies at the University of Idaho Experimental Forest comparing these tracks with rubber-tired grapple skidders in the inland northwest. Should have some answers for you on those questions soon!

The way they flop up and down I would say the operator needs to take special care and not be hauling ass or something is definitely gonna break

Kevin Allen It is an incredibly good ride. Undulating road surface, rocks up to, shoot, a basketball? like size? Yep. 20 to 25 mph over level terrain. On better roads, the rubbered up fellas can outrun me. But, the FMC’s are “king of the hills”. Grades as steep as 60degrees are easily climbed. My machine carries just under 1000 gallons. The water bottle’s air pocket near the cap, does not touch the cap while climbing that steep. The steeper the terrain, the getter an FMC looks. Well, you know, unless I’m running the FMC! Then, even, Dale Earnhardt would rather concede than take likkin like that! 😝 🤩🤫🤑💪☠️

well its not for riding better its all for Alleviating Ground Pressure so the machine will run on top ofthe ground instead of making BUTTHOLE DEEP RUTS as a rubber tire is famous for,also as previously stated the tracks willing maximize TRACTION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DRIVE IT ON THE DEBRI AND THE LIMBS AND TOPS THAT ARE LEFT BEHIND.

What!?

I always tried to run down the high spots on my skid road instead of running in same ruts every trip always had a hell of a time trieng to teach guys that

Does it matter?

Yes it matter num skull

@@randysingleton4343 explain to me why it matters

You are sooo clever my friend,so why don't you suggest a way to get the big one without harming the small one!!

​@@madiabu3282 fall it in the right direction. The cutter had the logs crossed up.

It looks to me that these are bolt on kits! The tracks look a lot like a sourcy track but then this is metal and heavier!

It honestly looks like they just changed the outsides of the axles out so they would ge sprockets instead of just kind of like a hub

They look similar to Mattracks for atvs and they reduce speed by 1/3. If to speed is 60, it reduces that to 45.

@@rankhornjp speed is reduced but torque is increased, now it goes like a tank :)

Center of hub measured out to track or tread is nearly identical, if measured vertically to ground. Ground speed differential will be nominal.

@@notoriouselwood9253 Do they change the planetary drive units to a faster output?

they break watch video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eaikp9WA1a_PpWQ.html

Excellent, sir. I shall prep the 210 and impatiently, await the transport. A few weeks should set that muddied bog back to to some measure of civility.

I’d imagine there would still be ruts but they would most likely go deeper into the ground with less width but easier to manage nonetheless the less

Preston Barnett yep, find “Miss Jimi” a firefighting FMC220, on youtube, watch her vids of some treacherous rocky slopes. And pay attention to the rocky slopes that she regularly and reliably packed water to the hotshot and contract ground crews. Enjoy!

northman logging yep, those that cant figure out an FMC, usually, have nothing but negative to say. I can build the road that would bring your machine to work, I can retrieve timber that you would have to watch a helicopter recover, I can climb a grade so steep that an Ibex might vomit from inclination, and i can run 20 to 25 mph down the road, up the hill and across the meadows(with less damage in my mirror than you, even if your parked). But, i get it, sometimes lack of talent is cause for insult. But, thats 👍 ok, we both know who can be relied upon to pick up the mess left behind by the ignorant. C U on da’ mountain. 😆

@@notoriouselwood9253 not an insult to the FMC or it operators, though if ya own one my condolences on your maintenance bill, just seeing folks reinvent for a solution that no one needs is kinda silly, not to mention the cost of those track converters has got to be extraordinary

@@northmanlogging2769 and I humbly offer my apology, I was rather combative. I must admit that I personally have not had to endure any costly repairs, or extraordinary maintenance needs. But, I am not, typically, in the day to day battle of cost vs revenue. I have the extraordinary priveledge of, and for lack of a better description, "showing off" with a well maintained and low hour machine. I enjoy it, its extremely capable, and it affords me bragging rights in most venues. I got belligerent in my jest. Thank you for a mild? Response to my arrogance. For the moment, Aloha 😎

And thanks for suffering through the video. After all, we came here to enjoy the show! LOL

@@notoriouselwood9253 no worries, everybody a little defensive lately lol those FMC's are cool when they are taken care of, lots of moving parts in em though

Duals are wide, and tires go flat. There are advantages and disadvantages to either setup

They are available for all John Deere and Tigercat skidders. We also have them for JD and Tigercat Wheel Fellerbunchers and Wheeled Mulchers.

If your still running a rubber tired feller buncher I'd say time to upgrade to track type my friend...my husband runs circles around rubber tire models with his 552

Width might be an issue with the tigercat. I like this concept, i am not sure i would use it. Year round. You know, more like a back pocket option..

I'm afraid you couldn't be more wrong with that assumption. Pardon me for saying so but I've seen these in action. It's just not a correct statement. Hope you have a great day sir

@@jaredreeves273 Let's just agree that they both have their advantages and disadvantages. You have a good day also 👍

Whatever gibberish you said inspired me young man

Tracks or chained up all 4 don't see a difference. And no high speed to this with tracks.

Theirs always that one guy on every video that has to say your doing it wrong

@@jamespotter9148 he I bet he is a guy that dt get off the dam couch!!!!

Why, he is doing a good job of taking out the little trees too.

Lgp and swamp pads.

I am not familiar with the Timberjack, but the FMC210 has ground pressure of less than 7 psi. That is not enuff to burst a water bottle on most terrain.

А ты знаеш другие способы?

Please see the G&R Manufactured Solutions website for contact information

How much

@@chrishuge2497 reasonable just contact me

Is he still even alive ???? seens some of his felling videos.... good god

Yes.

Timberjack made a skidder just like that years ago that they reccommended especially for steep, rocky ground.

Careful operators and proper trail layout can make a world of difference. In my opinion the worst problem with rubber tire skidders is soil compaction.

Lol... Add $200,000 more they have gone outrageous on price... Seems everyone thinks they are Richard Rollins...

ya hopefully it a clear cut and they,ll gather the smashed stuff up ! all they need to do is bunch it in a strait line & cut the tops out of the big ones !

It really depends on who you hire to log ur property. Get someone with a decent rep and tell them you don't want ur woods destroyed, if they are decent they will try and accommodate. It most likely will not pay as well as a run and gun operation but if keeping your woods in tact is a priority you have to give up something.

I don't what they may tell you they'll do to "repair it"... it will NEVER be the same... Every aspect of the land will be forever changed... In a manner of speaking... that's just raping the land! Take... Take... Take... 😞

@@herbhouston5378 sir do you use forest products ? they don't come from the store , please get with a logger and get informed please ! you might really be surprised !

@@StumpjumperVideosPA no he don't, not at all. Irresponsible Forestry Management causes CA to burn like crazy as well.

$300,000 and you can have one..