Well the fact that you and whoever likes your comment is currently watching you have in fact, watched at least a minute now…

Me

Because Logan Paul is a scammer a horrible person he scammed his own fans!

never watched. is he the boxer or...his bro?

@@brandonbaxter7307 I just watched a Cliffe Knetchtle video - I have no idea who this Logan Paul kid is.

we all are, but its "all part of the show ." let them come at us and die in their sin, its like a bee who stings anything out of anger and dies from taking that action. its honestly not a shocker anymore. Even Jesus said, they despise you because of me; just focus on your walk and leave the rest in his hands

Everything is Gods will

Im tired of the religious not blaming their God for what he's clearly responsible for based on their own description of their God. If God is who you say he is, then he IS responsible for your corruption and sin by default. If I'm wrong.. then so are you about your god

Logan es cochon

@@Dayyummm- We are the reason why we live in Sin not God. Adam and Eve and all that.

Indeed

Right. We have no choice. Wonderful word.

That's basically having to submit on all fronts, rather than be like god and create. So many dualities, can endless debate them, but overal too tiresome for majority. Can preach for another 2000 years, not gonna change.

@@doingthings5735welp we all have choice and every choice there will be a consequence good and bad ones. 🎉

No, the alphabet people try to tie in with muslims like they are the same. Very odd.

​@@armadilis4198 well we are clear in our beliefs, if you act on it then you are sining etc.. The LGBTQcz is major Haram and they are trying to infiltrate Us to make our kids think it's OK but Us Muslims will not be falling for that.

I’ve seen Christian’s multiple times challenge them but they are so hard wired to being closed minded it usually goes no where.

As Jesus Said, a house divided against itself cannot stand. Islam is Satanic. Satan doesn't want to draw any negative attention to a religion that is to pull people closer to him. He wants to crush the Truth about Christ.

Because according to their God theyr destiny is predestent by their so called God

I love that!

"exactly. Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man" - James 1:13

​@Quint-ib4nfNo. Not really.

Isaiah 45 :7 disagrees with this statement. Preaching from a place of ignorance is not a good look, it makes Christians look pretty and desperate to scapegoat another group so you can feel superior to someone, "I might be a sinner but at least I am not one of THEM." Truely pathetic.

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things". You have to learn the bible before you try and preach it at people.

So God is less powerful?

@@ripsanskrit3609 God gives everyone free will to choose good or evil.

He's not real

@@ripsanskrit3609what? Just because the devil is real does not mean God is less powerful. He is all powerful.

@@McShawtieDoggo he is all powerful but can stop the devil because he wanna see drama

Did he die?

@@777superlightwaterno

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Hate of your brother for the way god made him is not living in the spirit. The fact that you are so obsessed with gays and sex proves the truth of you. (Matt 7 : 21-23) Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

So we can have sex now and we will be born straight later?

Not in the way you think it is

​@ripsanskrit3609 I haven't masturbated since I decided to begin becoming Christian, or at least try my best in becoming Christian. I'm sure that if I was able to stop that, all these ignorant people can stop doing what they think they like. The devil will keep telling you it's okay but it's really not.

I agree, and must I add God doesn't make anyone gay it's a choice and mostly it's because people don't know or have the guidance or understanding. And the people who are gay are mostly people who have fallen form grace and Satan has took them and made them of his image which is taking them as far as possible from God's image.

Amen

Answer is yes to all of those; we are born with abilities that makes those things possible or we are able to learn those things to do those things. Humanity is Gods Sin

no to lie and steal and cheat are a choice.....no one can chose their sexual orientation, try again

@@cowlico not amen

@@jagr06 but not our sexual orientation

But why would a loving god create some people who are attracted to the same gender? That seems rather cruel. It also didn't make God's top ten list of naughty things.

@@Andrew-it7fb God creates life during conceptions, and then Satan comes and fucks up the fetus, makes it gay.

@Andrew-it7fb God doesn't create people that way. Sin doesn't come from God, it comes from Satan.

@@whiteobama3032 people don't choose who they're attracted to.

@@Andrew-it7fb Your are acting as if being gay is at the very top and no one else struggles with sin. You don't think it's hard not to take revenge, hard not to cheat on your spouse, hard not to watch porn, or hard to wait for marriage, not to steal or lie, etc? Heterosexuals don't just walk around with an easy time of not committing sins either. That's delusional. Sex in general is for the purpose of procreation. Every sexual act outside of procreation is bad. Like other commenters have said, you're basically saying that because someone was born more violent, that they should just be allowed to act upon that violent nature because they were born that way. It's a silly argument.

He is being logical, you just don’t understand because you don’t want to.

@@briecruz7784no he’s being illogical because he is using the reasoning of secular humanism. The superstructure of his argument make look logical on the surface but it is rotten at the foundation because he’s ignoring the disturbing factor of sin which is in ALL of us.

@@dallasreese8416 secular thinking is logical it comes with data, evidence and when proven wrong it’s discarded. I would argue that not thinking outside the box makes someone gullible to believing there is an actual moral code in the Bible. How can someone be born with sin? Aren’t we made (according to the Bible) by a “god” that made us perfect, so how can we be so wrong as humans to like the opposite sex if god made us that way? Evolution is more consistent on why humans act the way they do even showing other animal species behaving “gay” I am not trying to disrespect anyone, rather having a discussion about this video.

​@@briecruz7784h()mosexua1ity is the product of s3xual abuse. 15% is genetic according to the best research. Genes load the gun, and environment pulls the trigger. We need more research on the causes, but it is too taboo in America. Other countries like China have done a fair amount of research on this topic. They reproduce through abuse.

​​@@briecruz7784gullible? Who is repeating state ideology they were raised to believe? There is nothing logical about the political philosophy of liberalism that which America runs on. How can we be a pluralistic society and democratic at the same time? How do we have an oligarchy, with free and fair elections? Why do you people need to so heavily censor academia? Queer Theory is not scientific at all. "I identify as an x" how do you test that? If gender is not biological than how do you quantify it? It is non material, yet it mascarades as science. How do you know if I am lying? You can't verify it through material means. That is not scientific. "The transgender industrial complex" by Scott Howard will turn your world upside down. The episode of Homosexuality on the podcast "The Darwin Digest" is a must listen. It is a scientific critique of the act.

Amen, @user-uo8kb5rv7n

Gays and Lesbians come from families and we grow up and make our own families just like straight people. It kinda sounds like we agree, a loving and committed couple, gay or straight, is what children need to grow up healthy and happy.

1. "prove that your God exists 2. then prove your religion is from a god 3. Is it wrong to celibate like Jesus or the pope"

@@Alexthomas-hd4xj Jesus' death on the cross and His resurrection, all historically documented, both internally by the Scriptures and externally by extra-biblical sources. And by the way, you can know He exists personally, if you're willing to ask.

As to point 3, neither Jesus nor His disciples nor anything in the Scriptures instructed people to be celibate.

Yes he does that's why all animals have homosexuality

@@ripsanskrit3609animals aren’t made in god’s image so this isn’t a good argument.

@@lamosaures yes it is. Cause ur ignoring science over beliefs. If you think God only test his human rats why did all animals have some homosexuality percentage

@@ripsanskrit3609 Animals don’t have to follow rules, they’re just animals

​@@ripsanskrit3609all creation was affected by sin. Did you need scripture references for that?

Woke culture and confusion are the result of this!

the bible and science

@@ministermattocks7570where did you get that from in the Bible?

​@@ministermattocks7570care to elaborate?

They trying to justify their actions.

So you worship a vile and evil god that created people to torture. This alone proves your god is nothing more than a fairytale.

Being gay is the least sinful thing

There you go 🙏🏽

Romans 1:24, 26 & 28 is the definition of God's wrath. He gives them up to their own choices and they'll have to suffer the consequences of those choices. Their hearts are already hardened and God will not force anyone to love Him, Law of Liberty. We Reap what we sow.

Είναι σωστό Ήταν γραμμένο Γιατί στο τέλος δεν πειράζει Έρχεται με σύννεφα ⛅ και κάθε 👁μάτι 👁 θα τον δει 👀

Say this again on repeat!

It's neither of those. There's actually a demonic spirit behind that. You can willingly have sex with a person from the same gender for many reasons but when you start feeling attraction, it's not natural anymore. God created men and women to be attracted to each other. Anything that goes against that is the work of a devil

Well, gay people exist, God doesn’t 👋

That is an amazing insight so clear cut and concise, to bad it flies in the face of academics, scientists, and human behavioural and brain experts. For the love of the god you claim to believe in, look at the facts BEFORE condemning a whole group of people. Honestly, some bronze age middle-eastern tells you he is fine with slavery (Exo 21 : 20-21), pedophilia ( Number 31 : 1-18) spousal abuse( 1 Cor 7:4) , R-wording girls (Deut 22: 28-29) and for some reason his anti-gay stance is the one you focus on, why? You wouldn't go along with this behavior if a modern middle-eastern said it, would you? So why go along with it here? Is it because it reinforces your already preconceived bigotry and gives you a group to "other" and feel superior to? No, of course not, that would be hypocritical and selfish, right? Why do you only preach the parts you like in the bible and not the truth? Why doesn't the pastor preach against divorce and remarriage in the church, because half the church would be guilty, or scream down at the children about the evils of premarital sex, and before you know it there is no one left to preach to. It is easier just not to see the corruption in your midst, the sickness in the flock, it is easier to point at another and say "HIM not me".

Where did you get this information, was there a study I was not aware of, or did you just make this up and hope no one calls it out? Because there has NEVER been a scientific or psychological study that ever said this. You are a liar and god hates it when people use him to justify their own person hate of people. Psychologists will however tell you that suppressing your natural sexuality is extremely damaging to an person's mental health. Why do straight people never ask themselves "How would I feel if everyone told me I was wrong to like the opposite sex and tried to force me to live my life as a gay person?" Why do you never ask yourselves if YOU could dismiss your sexual urges to be with the opposite sex, or to be celibate? If you ever did you might just have a realization.

That makes no sense why would anyone praise a god that has no morality for God so live sin he couldn't forgive Adam and eve that the entire world was born in to sin

I understand you. Amen

Try rewording that, i might be able to help you understand.​@@Alexthomas-hd4xj

That'd the stupidest thing to say . Comparing being born gay to be attracted to multiple women. Even gays are to be attracted to multiple boys but still when it comes to family it's always be 2 .

@ripsanskrit3609 okay, so the idea behind it is this. Through Jesus' teachings, both are wrong. All sin is equal. Its up to you to deny said sin and let the holy spirit help work on you. It doesn't matter if you're gay or not, what matters is denying what is written to be wrong.

Go cough up your birth control, and cancel your vasectomy then come talk to me about YOUR ‘god’.

I’ve always heard the phrase “God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve”.

Before Adam and eve there was Adam and Lilith, the mother of demons. Whoops, Thanks alot God. idiot.

@@MintyFr618 that's right!

Groan...that is so old and dumb. What are you, a kindergartner?

But Adam wanted Steve

@@RobertBowman-zq3xq Well according to statistics only 5 out of 100 Adams want Steve

@@mickinetsystems I find it interesting that your bigotry toward gays does not seem to include Lesbians. I wonder why? Maybe it has more to do with your personal sexual proclivities then it has to your religion. Maybe it just feels good to condemn others, as long as you don't want to have sex with them.

​@@RobertBowman-zq3xq Notice what *ALMIGHTY GOD* did to the perverts in Genesis chapter 19 .

The bible is fake, come on.

Do you know it's clearly written that the sabath was Saturday, but the whole Catholic church sinned and changed it to Sunday? Assuming it's against the 10 commandments, that has got to be a sin, right?

@@CamCos Sounds like nonsense but can't say i'm surprised since it's religion.

True. The name for Wednesday in many languages across the globe is literally "middle of the week day". But if you look at a modern calendar, Wednesday isn't middle of the week anymore. Because the Catholic church started improvizing against scripture.@@CamCos

@@jagr06so what your logic is???? Nothing created everything? Lmfao hush

Exactly

Then why did your evil god make the Devil? Why did your god supply the Devil with supernatural power? Why does your horrible god says the Devil will win in the end? It's either a very evil god, or the whole thing is clearly made up. I'd say, it's clearly all made up.

Wrong. The greatest trick is him deceiving people to think God doesn't exist. Why do you think people go around saying that hell won't be that bad or all of us sinners will be partying

@@user-gx2wi6mj9k _Then why did your evil god make the Devil?_ That's not the question. There are actually two more pressing questions. One question is why do you think, with your being evil, you are qualified to say God is evil? And based on what are you saying something is evil in the first place?

The same exact reason why he made us. Love and because of love God doesn't destroy what he creates. the devil and he's demons will burn in the lake of fire and all the believers will live in forever love and freedom from all evil on judgement day. It's as simple as that.

LOL you know divorce, remarriage, and premarital sex are all sinful acts, right? How many divorced do you go to church with? How many teens couples go to your church that you you all can tell are having sex? Come on, be honest with yourself? Any youth pastors at your church taking advantage of underage persons in your church or was it covered up quietly? And don't get me started on the people watching porn and abusing substances. Christians have their own issues, why single out gays and lesbians? Unless it is so you can feel better about yourself by looking down on someone else. You should grow a heart and stop faking your compassion.

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true as the homophobic desire is not good

@@ministermattocks7570 No sinful desire is good.

@@chisomokonkwo4361 like the homophobic lifestyle then

Just because God made you with a flaw does not excuse your choices. In the same way, God made a perfect being in a perfect environment, and that is how Satan was born. God created choice, and choice is good and perfect. However, His creations can choose, and part of that choice is to walk away from God. As you put it, God didn't make robots. :)

Free will equals making chocie. Therefore, u choice to be homosexual and act upon with finding an alternate route to cleanse yourself of sin u were commuting Q

@@stephanyortiz6001. exactly right!

@@stephanyortiz6001🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ironically, when you become a Christian, you become a robot.

I come in love but I still havnt seen any scripture that supports original sin. God has shown me he didn't create us with it. We are born innocent and take upon ourselves to sin. Sin is a choice not a thing we can't handle.

@@shydalelewis3966That’s means you haven’t read & studied scripture. It clearly says we all fell in Adam, we all died in Adam, we inherited his sin nature. Do you need a verse?

@@shydalelewis39661 Corinthians 15

@@shydalelewis3966Romans 5:12-21 ESV You should read it.

@@shydalelewis3966We are not born innocent. If so, that would mean there’s people that would choose not to sin & wouldn’t need Christ. Your thinking is very flawed & not aligned with scripture, no is righteous as scripture says not even one.

Not really. It's 100 percent from birth for some people and a choice for others. For those born that way it's by design. It's to remove unwanted genes from the gene pool. Religion aside the primary directive of all life is to reproduce. All instincts are designed to ensure survival until able to reproduce. So obviously god/evolution is trying to weed out bad genes. Nothing in the Bible refutes this either.

Lol being gay is a not a choice. I grew up in a super catholic family. No gay friends. Always told I should be with a woman. Nothing in that environment could push me in the other direction. Yet I'm still gay. Knew I was attracted to men when I was like 11 or 12. I didn't choose to be this way. You think all of us woke up one day and said " yeah I think I'd like to be gay and go through a hard life of shame and scorn from the rest of the world". I think if it was a choice, most of us would choose to be straight

@@porkncheese1789 yeah, I am straight but I can see how being gay isn't a choice. Who would choose to be gay and why. Coming out is a choice. But choosing to be gay? Nah. No way any would would want to make that choice and be ridiculed to the point of suicide.

@TheJoestier exactly. Thank you for understanding. Some people are delusional

That's right 💯

He was speaking about himself specifically.

Ungodly behavior? Excuse me. Are lions sinners?

Actually animals will be judged and put in a room somewhere else until Jesus return so we can all be together. Also, Jesus was the Lamb.

These are GOOD questions. Logan may be trying to find holes in Christianity to make himself feel better, but these are questions I've asked as a Christian and there is no shame in fully understanding what the bible says. Cliff answers questions from non believers and people of different faiths all the time. I think the question of "why has God made people wired in a way that makes them more inclined to sin than others" is a very natural curiosity to have. I've struggled with narcissists in my life and I've wondered how is it fair they are wired to be more selfish than the average person (I am not saying they aren't accountable for their actions because they indeed still have free will). Similarly, Cliff's response to questions like why God created evil is "I don't know". I think it takes humility to accept that we can't fully understand the way God has made things.

This isn't about behavior. Your comment doesn't make sense.

Very base majority of Gay are just born

@krystlecooke2390 Amen. We need to pray for them every day. ❤

Is there any credible statistical evidence for this? Plenty of people who experienced childhood trauma grow up to be heterosexual, and there are plenty of homosexuals who were raised in loving, supportive, stable families. I don't discredit what you've seen working in the mental health field of course, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to say a high majority of all gay people experienced this growing up.

also a high majority of heterosexual people are that way because of abuse as a child. So is heterosexuality a sin now?

@@ripsanskrit3609 true

Cause it's natural. Even lying is sin but it's still natural

@@ripsanskrit3609so is murder again not a good argument. So is slavery, incest, etc.

@@lamosaures those can be controlled. But being born gay and excepting to live a life of blindness with exception is inhumane and ungodly

@@ripsanskrit3609 No one is any more “born” gay than one is “born” a thief or a liar. We are all “born” sinners. With a “natural” inclination to sin, and early proclivities toward particular sins. Each of us has a sin “which easily besets us”. You may not struggle with lying, or stealing, but do struggle with sexual sin. That’s why we must be “born again”. Born with a new nature, and the help of the Holy Spirit to “control” or die to the old nature and withstand sin. Because what is truly “inhumane and ungodly” is lying to others, stealing from them, or sexually defiling them. We must love God and each other enough not to sin against them or seduce them to sin.

​@@mrs.c.2408he is obviously not a Christian

If not, acting on a wicked desire is sin. then all the devil would have to do to make all of us. infinitely sinful is just have his demons talk to us all day about things that are sinful desires. as long as you reject this sinful desire, you are not doing sin.

Yep, that's why christ was sent

I suppose that depends on what you mean by desires. If you mean “I want this, and I will think about it and hold onto it” then you’re correct. If you mean “the temptation to do/think/say etc” then I would argue you are incorrect. The Bible says Jesus was tempted in every way we are yet was without sin. I would argue that we can be tempted and take the escape provided by the Holy Spirit and not be in sin. If however, we contemplate on it, fantasize etc etc then YES the stewing and contemplation is a sin even if we didn’t take any action on it.

@@arzer114 Exactly 💯

The devil can and does tempt people in many ways, alcohol, gambling, homosexuality and many other temptations, we can reject the attacks of the evil one and choose by our free will not to act on the temptation, so you do not sin. The temptation and intrusive thought's are not sin in themselves, as they can be planted in our minds by the devil, it only becomes sin if we choose to dwell on that sin and that may lead you to act upon that sin. Then the devil has won and the temptation was acted upon. Yet if an intrusive thought enters a person's mind and it is not what that person want's and they reject the thought there is no sin. If we are tempted as we all are in life we have the Lord to turn to in prayer and ask him to take the temptation away, he said to give him our burdens, because his yoke is light and his burdens are easy. Diabolic obsession is real it is sometimes inflicted by the devil, and can cause great suffering in people's lives.The thought is not a sin it's what you do with it that count's, we are blessed we have the Lord to turn to in our difficulties.The three ways sin enters into a person's life, is the world, the flesh and the devil. We are in a battle, put on the armour, for the evil one will often tempt people more if they are trying to lead Godly lives, he wishes to discourage us and for us to become dispondant, resist him. God is loving and merciful and he knows our struggle, as he also was tempted by the devil, when he came out from the desert after the forty day's of fasting, he is with us to help us in every temptation. if we fall, we repent and are truly sorry, we are forgiven, draw close to Jesus.

God did make people straight. He created a penis for the vagina and the vagina for the penis. So everyone is literally CREATED to be sexually intimate with the opposite sex. That's why its abominable to go outside of that. You're not just going against God's will but outside of his purpose and design when you indulge in same-sex affection. No one is "Gay" naturally.

U can only be born gay

we know God makes LGBT people

God didn't make people straight either

@@ministermattocks7570 God makes a normal people, not LGPT its your choice to choose that and finally face the outcome, For example is your mother a male I dont think so but you are here because you are born from male and female but you are straight denying yourself. There is only one Bible and God the father , people make their own god which that accepts their interest and claim that the real God says that. It is not about debate its about finding truth and fact seek the truth through the Bible not your feelings or personal views.

Ole Amen is dead, even Egypt stopped praying to him a long time ago.

@@DavidBryner-z9u It means truth and you probably don't know what that is. It's very relevant even today! Amen

so why do homophobics chose to sin?

@ministermattocks7570 The same reason any one choose, it's nature. That's why we need God's nature. We all must be born again, I don't fear gay people, I don't want anyone to be lost for an eternity, I'm more concerned with your eternal life and not your temporary life on this earth. They are no different than any other sin. We all need a redeemer, and Jesus has done that. It's up to us to receive him and choose righteousness and not our own understanding, but according to the Word of God. No one gets a pass. God's son's death will not be in vein.

@@jackiebrown8793 so why did u chose the homophobic lifestyle choice? See this is why we need God's nature. We all must be born again, more so the homophobic community who are following satan, I don't fear you homophobic people, I don't want anyone to be lost for an eternity, I'm more concerned with your eternal life and not your temporary life on this earth. Homophobia is no different than any other sin. We all need a redeemer, and Jesus has done that. It's up to us to receive him and choose righteousness and not our own understanding or our own bigotry, but according to the Word of God. No one gets a pass. God's son's death will not be in vein. I will pray for you, BLESSINGS

The Bible says all sins are forgivable except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Everyone can be saved no matter what they’ve done. We are saved by grace. It’s a free gift. You must repent, accept Jesus, and pick up your cross.

Or maybe your heart is just full of hate and you need someone to condemn so you feel better about yourself. You seem to be more concerned with the flesh then the spirit, and your hate proves it.

​@@DavidBryner-z9uThe only one I've seen spewing hate here is you. You came to this video to spread it.

@@NovusIgnis ok let's talk about love then ❤ what's the big deal if two people fall in love, want to marry, build a life together, grow old together. Don't you want these things for yourself and the ones you love? Doesn't everyone deserve a shot at love? If you truely do love your neighbor as yourself you should than be overjoyed to see people in love? The world is a very hard cruel place for us all, why remove more love from it, and create hostility and suffering in its place and only to this one group. I really truely believe we as a people can overcome this irrational and harmful need to "other"groups of people but we all have to do our part and love when it is hard and not easy. If you made it this far thank you, it feels good to say this to someone on the other end. I really do believe gays and lesbians are special to god, but we are not the only ones 😊 Some day I hope god blesses you with a beautiful and sweet and loving gay or lesbian child in your life. One that you can tell real early, a boy that's a little swishy or a girl that's a bit butch. It will change your heart, and you will be closer to god. You would be proud of that child and be grateful to god they came into your life. Hateful would be trying to force that child to be something they are not or rejecting them completely. Thank you for listening. D

@@DavidBryner-z9u Because not all love is good love. Some adults love children in ways that are not appropriate. Are you going to defend their love too? Some people love hurting or humiliating others. Is their love valid? What about people who love abusing drugs until they die, tearing their families apart in the process? These are all different loves, and yet not a single one of them is good. And the same goes for the romantic love that one man has for another man, or that one woman has for another woman. Love does not abide in sin, and God has defined sin for us both in our hearts as well as in His Word. Any sexual activity outside of a marriage between one man and one woman under God is sexual immorality and sinful, and again: love does not abide in sin. Any argument that you want to use to support homosexuality applies to pedophilia, bestiality, and necrophilia as well, which goes to show that they're *ALL* sexual immorality. The only way you can avoid supporting the things you don't like is to simply say "Oh well we cna make exceptions for granting rights to those perverts", in which case we can make the same argument to not allow homosexuality too. It's *ALL* sexual immorality, and it *will* lead to evil because it *is* evil.

I mean straight men do, avoid looking at breasts, unless of course you have no self control or not even trying to have self control. I know some people who were attracted to same same and got help and now they are doing well, married with kids and couldn't believe they used to be attracted to men.

Exactly! People are wired in certain ways. A gay person that's celibate will struggle with temptation, just like a psychopath or narcissist will struggle not acting on their selfishness more so than most people. Some people have life on "hard mode" and I can admit this is unfair, but I'm not going to presume God did this to be cruel, or have a laugh, at the same time I have to accept that I don't know why God has made things this way. Why did He make evil? As Cliff has said "I don't know".

So you expect a gay person to chose a life of celibacy and no family? While you get all the benefits.

Did cliffe have the choice to smash the toy over the other child's head? No. He said it was out of instinct and he compared that to homosexuality as the same level of sin but it's not a choice, it's instinct. It seems like he's mixing those two up and contradicted himself in the process. Do you agree or disagree and if you disagree then why?

You chose to be straight? For real? You chose to make your hypothalamus pump arousal hormones in to your body when you see an attractive woman? If you can control that you would be the first person and scientists everywhere would want to test you, but I am guessing you didn't choose it is just the way your body reacts.

Did you choose to be straight?

I didn't gay lions didn't have choice

@@ripsanskrit3609omgoodness 😂 love this comment. Just comes to show that being gay is natural.

me too but homophobics don't wish to be born again

@420, That will not fix the issue. If a gay person is depressed and crying because religion and society rejects them, you think telling them, "Become a Christian", is going to make them feel better? Uh...no. Because then you are going to say a second stupid thing, "You can be gay, just don't act on it." Back to square one.

@@KingofPepsi These people are not even christians. You can not be both homophobic and christian, they are religious people.....using religion to hurt people with.

@@KingofPepsi Bruh, we need so many people like you in this world, FR. As an atheist, I am astonished with the lack of accountability from the religious people who spout hateful, anti-semetic drivel like this. All because of a stupid fucking book that was so clearly written by men, who likely had one too many disturbing fantasies of doing horrid things to their fellow man. "But God said to do it, so it *must* be okay!" Something I've seen and heard so much from apologists, or rather, excusagists. It is so unbelievably vile.

The Bible is not facts.

Well said.

And yet gays exist. How is that possible? Cliffe even said he was "hardwired" to love attractive women and could not just make himself be gay. If he did not have a choice what makes you think gays do?

How do you know your religion is from a god 🤔

@@Alexthomas-hd4xj The same way I know a painting was made by a painter.

You're right but, we have to be born again before we realize that. It's lije anyone can say that they were born pedophile. And, the only way that this is true is if they aren't born again. But, once a person is born again. Their heart is changed, their thinking is changed. And, they shouldn't have the same desires that they once had. They should desire things of the spirit and not of the flesh. But, before that time, they are under the influence of satan. They don't know that what they are doing is a sin because it's a desire from Satan. I mean, some Christians still given in to the fleshly desires. That's called carnality.

People can not control their hypothalamus and make it stop and start pumping arousal hormones. It is impossible to dictate sexual attraction, ask any neuroscientist. Gay men's brains are also similar to straight women's brains with them both being asymmetric, while lesbians brain and symmetrical which is more similar to straight men. Explain how that is possible. Do gays and lesbians some how choose the shape of there brains, did you choose yours? In the face of so much evidence to the contrary you would rather hate your fellow man and wallow in your own self-righteous ignorance then to learn a little empathy and a better connection with god through fellowship with your gay brother. Slam the door to heaven in our faces, to be sure in the end it is Yeshua will be slamming the door in YOUR face in the end.

We're all born with a sinful nature....we all have weaknesses. If your weakness is homophobia, it doesn't mean you're free to act on it.

Those afraid of God (and by extension, scripture which clearly says homosexuality is wrong) will be saved, those unafraid will be annihilated. I can quote scripture on all accounts. You've yet to quote anything but your own "homophobia is sin" tagline.@@ministermattocks7570

@@ministermattocks7570 LOL, great one!

@kaylaledouxgary, It's rude and wrong to compare gay people to stealing and murdering. This is why many people are leaving Christianity, they can no longer stomach the hate, hypocrisy, and fakeness. And stupidity.

@@KingofPepsi POOR homophobics. They need help.

We didn’t make that choice with Adam and Eve either. Why do gay people have to pay for what people did thousands of years ago. You think it’s just to ask people who didn’t choose their attraction to just not have any companionship or intimacy in their life because of sin. But not their sin a sin that was brought in thousands of years ago that caused them to have attraction to the same sex. Do you hear how crazy that is?

People are not created homosexual. Homosexuality at its root is a spiritual issue and we live in a fallen and spiritually corrupt world and people are influenced even from the womb. Good news is we can be born again and delivered from any spiritual issues.

Yet...you skip Leviticus 20:10.

@@KingofPepsi What do you mean skip I've read the entire book of Leviticus Logan was asking for the verse about gays sleeping with one another not about cheating the verse must not of come to cliffe mind at the time which is why he didn't say it exactly

@@fxee. Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1 is always used against the LGBT, yet, Leviticus 20:10 is a more common occurrence that gets swept under the rug. That's why the religious can not be taken seriously.

@@fxee. Adultery is just as much of a sin and just as deserving of death as homosexuality. So when people use those verses to justify hate-crime-ing LGBT people but say nothing against Donald Trump who cheated on his 3 wives and porked a pornstar, it's very hypocritical and blatant cherry- picking. Not specifically you but many people of faith in general.

And leviticus 19:19 forbids wearing clothes with two kinds of fabric. I don't see anyone going on about that.

You think homosexuality is a "mental disability"? Can you be more offensive?

Mental disabilities cannot be "overcome". They stick around throughout all of life. They can only be worked around/managed. I was diagnosed with Asperger's and ADHD at a very young age, and it is quite frankly apalling that people like you don't get that.

@@switchie1987 what are you even talking about? That has nothing to do with anything that I'm talking about. I didn't say that you'll get over them. And people like me? I have chronic health and mental health disorders. Maybe take it down a notch before you go around assuming you understand what somebody is saying when you don't.

And homosexuality isn't a mental disability, so I'm not sure how this is relevant.

Gay people were around way before the Satan character was made up. Just like how the Bible writers skipped the dinosaurs in Genesis. That was a big OOPS!

Infinity isn't a number, it's a concept. So an infinite point in spacetime cannot be reached, as it would be everywhere and everything, yet also not. With that in mind, how long would it take for you to reach an infinite point in space away from where you are here on Earth? An eternity. And you'd never get there. That's what infinity *is* . With that in mind, the idea of infinite suffering/pleasure in Hell or Heaven is literally the silliest thing for ANYONE to believe in. 'Cuz infinity cannot have a beginning, and cannot have an end. "But what about the Universe itself, though?", you may ask. It's simple, the Universe didn't come from "nothing". True nothing would have to be a no-energy, no-radiation, no-spacetime, no-matter state, with no conscious beings to experience or define it. There's more I could list there, but you should be able to understand the point I'm making. The Universe, through the expansion of the Big Bang, came out of an initial state of high density and temperature. Evolution is a fact of biology, and you can actually learn a lot about it with a quick Google search. While there is yet to be a definitive answer as to why animals, including humans, seem to develop into the things you all like to call part of the "LGBTQ Agenda", I'm certain there ARE answers out there, yet to be found. However, that is not my duty to fulfill, as I am not qualified, nor have I the expertise to handle such research. Whatever scientifically verified answer I find, I add to my collection of knowledge. If it's something that cannot be trusted, or is incorrect, I discard it as such. But hey, that's just me bein' a rational-minded asshole, I suppose.

@@switchie1987 You do have some interesting concepts and I do have some answers for some of what you're saying The concept of heaven and hell are concepts outside of traditional time since if you wish to follow what is said by Christians, God invented time. thus, he would be outside of the concept. that's why he has the ability to actually predict what will happen later is because he lives outside of traditional continuity. as such, he can see the end from the beginning. The concept I was making on Infinity for his mind is the fact that he is omniscient all-knowing all possible knowledge. that could be a mind that has absolutely no boundaries. Infinity was just an easier way of describing the concept. far less wordy as well. I have never denied that the concept of evolution exists. change has to exist for life to exist. if you had pure chaos, life would not exist. if you had pure order, life would not exist. both concepts and proper balance are needed for life to exist. evolution in terms of adaptation is a undeniable completely provable concept that I thoroughly embrace, but evolution in terms of speciation is completely unproven and the way that science works is until you prove it. it's not science. science must be repeatable and observable. you don't have those two things you don't have. science, that is not a matter of opinion. that is a matter of the very fundamental rule of science. this is why science while it is a useful tool, cannot prove the origin of anything because there would have been no one around to view it and you can't exactly recreate the spontaneous generation of everything. as for everything coming from nothing, It ultimately has to get to that point, either that or some kind of creative Force because even if you believe in the Big bang if you want to go off of the concept of science you have to say well, where did the hot dense state of matter and energy come from? You ultimately have to come to either. it always was thus the universe has the properties of God. a creative being outside of the concepts of reality made it. thus, you have the concept of God or nothing made it. thus you have nothing became everything. science is a wonderful, beautiful tool, but it's only a good tool for what it's made for trying to use science to explain the origin of everything is like trying to use a screwdriver to eat soup. a screwdriver is a lovely tool, but it's not for eating soup.

@@robinjameson4261 Yeah, not reading that, mate. Probs just a lotta waffle, anyways. Should've specified, but it's not hard to wrap one's head around the idea that the Universe could've just always been, in the sense that there was a universe before ours.

@@switchie1987 If you want to say science, you can't say the universe has always been because one of the laws of physics, not the suggestions of physics. not if I feel like it of physics, but the laws of physics says cause and effect. the only way for the universe to always be is that you use magic or a god. so you're not using science anymore you're using religion

@@robinjameson4261 Y'know what, I'm done. I was already in a bad mood today, I don't need you explaining something to me that you know nothing about.

Yeah, but is there really a nice way of saying "I don't care what neuroscientist and psychologist say, I let people who live multiple millennia ago dictate to me who it is ok to subjugate and oppress." If you were so concerned about telling the truth you all would just say you hate feminine men and masculine women because you do not live in the spirit, you are of the flesh and bigotry and inequality are your truth. You can not put aside your hate of gays no matter what sinful acts you yourself commit. You always can feel so righteous when compared to gays, and doesn't that feel good? Be honest with yourself and with the world you do not love your neighbor as you are commanded to and you CHOOSE willful ignorance over empathy for the weakest among us. You should be ashamed of yourself.

You should probably watch more of their content before formulating an opinion on them. Just a suggestion.

@NeatoFox I just think it's problematic when they fail on such a critical and foundational topic like this one. Also, I've come away with a similar opinion after watching another video of theirs -- that they're more worried about offending than speaking truth on hot button cultural issues.

Thank you, and please excuse my ignorant Christian brethren found in the comments. If you watch the video, you will realize that most of the people making comments do not understand that Cliffe is speaking about them. It is self-righteous and ignorant to think that God sees any person differently than the worst sinner. For one reason: God loves Satan; if He didn't, Satan would not exist. God and Jesus will be forced to send many of His creations to hell, not because God won't forgive them, but because they are, deep down, no different than Satan. Pride, vanity, and arrogance are sadly what many Christians are known for. As proof, sinners, thieves, murderers, or even politicians didn't put Jesus to death; Jesus was put to death by His own people, the church. The Pharisees and the Jewish church were so blinded that they could not see Jesus for who He was. Also, just look at the church now. It is just like the days of Noah and the days of Jesus. To think a day would come where Christians would attack sinners by saying God didn't make them like that is astonishing. What purpose does it serve to think God needs to be defended? What He says is LAW. What He says is just by Him saying it, or by making a person and allowing them to exist. Anything else is just pure ignorance.

That just proves you don't need to be a christian to lack compassion and embrace bigotry over love

@@DavidBryner-z9u I agree, many of these people claiming it is just how God made them are bigots as well.

Love is true. Love without truth is just lust, and it WILL destroy you.@@DavidBryner-z9u

@@Michael-yl2iq Really is quite a shame, though. The fact that so, so many people refuse to see past their own nose like this..

This made my heart happy to see a believer with wisdom

but this is paul having a go at heterosexuals doing same sex acts in their idolotry cults, so how does that say anything a=on LGBT?

Romans 1:26 "That is why God gave them over to disgraceful sexual passion, *for their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature.*" Jude 7 "In the same manner, Sod'om and Gomor'rah and the cities around them also gave themselves over to gross sexual immorality and pursued unnatural fleshy desires; they are placed before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire."

@alicesamuel, Romans 1 is not really Bible prophecy when gay people have been around way before the Bible was ever put together. There's just more gay people now because the population has grown. So the Bible writers were ignorant gay haters, NEXT!!...

Lemme guess, "And so, the LORD your God had handed them over to their sin", or something like that. I don't remember it word-for-word, but I know *something* like that is in there-

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The bible says a man laying with a man as if he was a woman is an abomination. So the action is the sin. Just like killing is a sin, not having murderous thoughts.

True but because we are born through sin. We don't want to follow God's plan. The plan of one man and one woman. Instead we listen to the father of lies, Satan. And, we are convinced that we are born gay. If we are born gay then we would all be gay. But, because that were not all born gay then it boils down to Satan's lie and making that choice to be gay.

Yes he did, homosexuality develops in the brain since birth

@arandomdude4740 nope being gay is a choice God gave us free will

Babies are not sexual.​@@arandomdude4740

yet he did and has been doing so for millions of years

How does that disagree with what they said?

@@NovusIgnis It shows there's more to it than the shallow-minded takes thrown out by the religious on these matters.

@@switchie1987 Oh boy, this guy's following me around now

@@NovusIgnis What, you got a problem with that? I'm just speaking the truth!!! 🤣

Jokes aside, I hope you two are getting along well! 😎 Stay awesome! And never, EVER let people tell you that you should feel shame for who you are, or who you love!