Titan & Lightning Elite OTF; Surely there are better made budget friendly options?!

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@katsujinkenju Жыл бұрын

FWIW, I've had a Titan for a while now and it's never gone off track *knock on wood*. I was actually opening and closing it while watching your video without any problems. While not part of my EDC, I have carried it. It did have that "sproing" sound, but I applied a little bit of grease to the springs and that seems to have dampened the sound. May also be why it's been reliable.

@BenBelkin Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the overview!

@baddestmofoalive 6 ай бұрын

I was gifted a Templar OTF Dagger, and it’s an amazing US assembled knife for $80

@thenextarcher Жыл бұрын

You may want to go with a Taiwan made Lighting Otf. My understanding is that the Lighting Elite and 3 screw lightning is made by a different company in China. The Lighting otf that made the design popular is from a company in Taiwan the best way to identify it is by the 2 screw pocket clip.

@FedeBL4 8 ай бұрын

Where can you get the original Taiwan made?

@Errcyco 8 ай бұрын

I had a Lightning Elite for like a year before I gave it away. Never misfired once and was pretty amazing.. wayyy nicer than I expected for the money. It’s the QSP Penguin of OTF’s.

@Black84Beard 4 ай бұрын

China better than Taiwan.

@JonathanDawson-uo7jm 3 ай бұрын

Hey so are you saying that the original lighting is better then the elite?? I'm just curious to know and how much does the ones made in Taiwan cost??

@thenextarcher 3 ай бұрын

@@JonathanDawson-uo7jm Yes, the Taiwan made original is better than the elite. On grindworx I see the elite priced at 35 while the original is 30 so while being better is also cheaper

@SKi_Maskk03 Жыл бұрын

The Retraction issue you had with the Yellow and Black one, is the same exact issue I had with my Axial Shift Zac In The Wild Edition. They sent me a return label with no issue and I haven't had that issue yet.

@KnifeThoughts Жыл бұрын

I'm glad they fixed it for you

@SKi_Maskk03 Жыл бұрын

@@KnifeThoughts oh, me too!

@franksalem8580 Жыл бұрын

I have 2 Lightning OTFs which have never misfired. I have 3 midpriced OTFs which have never misfired. And I also have the granddaddy of them all, the G&G Hawk Deadlock, which is perfect in every way.

@KnifeThoughts Жыл бұрын

Do you think the normal Lightnings are better than the Elites?

@madhatter3640 Жыл бұрын

@@KnifeThoughts I can't tell the difference it'd be nice if they'd put upgraded blade steel to maybe a D2 blade. But I can't tell the difference other than the name,and the Titan knife action seems a lot slower.

@ilikeknafs9563 Жыл бұрын

Deadlock is the ugliest otf I’ve ever saw. not perfect in anyway ,I wouldn’t pay $300 for one of them ugly things

@undergroundexplorer8378 Жыл бұрын

I have a couple Lightning OTFs (not the Lightning Elite) and mine don’t have that issue with coming off the track. If you’re looking for a good budget OTF brand, CobraTec is pretty decent. A little more expensive than the Titans and Lightnings (usually between $70 and $90), but they’re professionally packaged and come with warranties. TacKnives offers some good budget OTFs as well.

@aliendoomsyndrome Жыл бұрын

I've had an AKC F-16 for maybe a year and a half, and it's been working great the entire time. Maybe give one of those a try?

@KnifeThoughts Жыл бұрын

And they're made in Italy right?

@aliendoomsyndrome Жыл бұрын

I believe so. That's what it says on BladeHQ anyway.

@richardhenry1969 9 ай бұрын

I have the lighting otf with 2 screw pocket clip. I’ve had it for years. Never had a miss fire. It works great an I personally like the AUS8 it is very easy to get sharp. Mine has been used it’s a great knife especially for the price. I think the Chinese ones aren’t the same. I don’t really like otf as a knife anyway. My favorite ak74 in xhp I really love that knife

@JonathanDawson-uo7jm 3 ай бұрын

I thought all lighting otfs were Chinese are they not ?? And how much does the American ones cost

@richardhenry1969 3 ай бұрын

@@JonathanDawson-uo7jm they are from Taiwan. They are a great budget knife. I don't know currently with everything costing more I paid $30 for mine years ago and it is still going strong

@JonathanDawson-uo7jm 3 ай бұрын

@@richardhenry1969 oh really ?? Or you talking about the lighting or the lighting elite?? And have you tryed both? And how much better is that elite if you know ? I'm vary curious sorry about all the questions man also I read on comments talking about the lighting saying that it's ok at first but in the long run sucks cus the spring inside is so week it breaks and the first time it does you can fix it by bending it the opisit way then once it happens again your screwed but maybe he's taking about the Chinese ones if there are any have you tryed Titan ??

@richardhenry1969 3 ай бұрын

@@JonathanDawson-uo7jm I have the lighting. I haven't heard great stuff about the lighting elite. I mean for a budget blade it's amazing. It's not a coldsteel with a tri-ad lock but it does most edc stuff without any issues. The steel is Aus8 which is ok but very easy to get razor sharp. I highly recommend it. Especially if your interested in otf. It's good to have one before spending hundreds on a name brand. If you want quality I would go with kershaw. Just my opinion. Seriously though $30 is worth trying.

@JonathanDawson-uo7jm 3 ай бұрын

@@richardhenry1969 funny you should say that I have 2 Kershaw autos the luanch 8 and 15 lol well I guess I should say I did have 2 but I lost the luanch 8 somehow I'n my own house so makes no sense but whatever I guess hope I find it man but I am a colecter to so is wy I asked you all that I still sometimes get cheaper knifes if I think they cool u no what I mean I was thinking about getting the luanch 17 next cus I really love how the Kershaw stiletos look u no what I mean ? But maybe I should try and save up to get the kershaw live wire otf ?? Have you had the chance to hold one or see one up close or anything?? Just wondering how they or and how they compare to a 20$_30$ ones especially how they fire and how often they jump track I think is what some people call it you no what I'm saying I'm sure when you have to take apart and fix and I'm wondering if there any that never mess up

@Kawasaki-qb8hh 10 ай бұрын

Take the apart polish the slide with fine steel wool. Lube the inside actuators with WD 4O quick dry silicone .,. problem fixed

@Podunk82 Жыл бұрын

CLP is your friend, a rule of thumb is if it moves it needs lube

@john1josjohn1jos 9 ай бұрын

Would oil fix the problem? I am considering buying the titan just to keep in my truck

@KnifeThoughts 9 ай бұрын

I don't think so. But not everyone has as bad an experience as I did with them.

@allstarsteinman1 Жыл бұрын

My lighting otf fails One out of five times almost straight out of the box.

@KnifeThoughts Жыл бұрын

Wow what a bummer

@Silviapepe Жыл бұрын

Mine too

@luceatlux7087 11 ай бұрын

does it have three or two screws in the clip?

@Silviapepe 11 ай бұрын

@@luceatlux7087 mine has 3 screws but after awhile I watched a video here o;KZfaq on how to fix it and now it fires every time, basicallly it was just the front blade lock spring that had to be moved back a bit

@JonathanDawson-uo7jm 3 ай бұрын

I wish they'd do a Titan vs lighting eliet or if the lighting that's made in Taiwan is best lighting and assuming that Titan is made there I'd love to see there best Titan and best lighting go head to head I've never had eather but the otf trench knife I got from this store close to. Me for 50$ it kinda looks almost like one of the Titans I've seen or I'f not then maybe another brand name look alike it don't say anything on it at all kinda weird but I have another otf not trench knife regular otf from that store and says nothing on it to

@CaptDavesSportfishing Жыл бұрын

Take your China knives apart clean inside real good with brake parts cleaner. And don't use any heavy lubrication whatsoever. Minimal oiling. Preferably a DRY lube.

@KnifeThoughts Жыл бұрын

Thanks I'm sure that'd help, it just seems like a lot.

@Errcyco 8 ай бұрын

I put Tuf-Glide all over the blade of mine then just fired it in and out. The jolt inward got the oil all over the interior. That worked like magic but Tuf Glide does that on anything with a pivot.. stuff is magic. 🪄

@CaptDavesSportfishing 8 ай бұрын

@@Errcyco but new they are dirty inside. I have tuff glide. I still take new ones apart, because I'm also sharpening them, and its easier in the Wicked Edge with a blade versus blade and handle.

@reeddoerr1213 4 ай бұрын

How about some better budget knives? Thanks

@christopherfrankovich5239 Жыл бұрын

Not the same price, i like Cobratec knives. They have a couple under $100.00. they hand assemble each knife.

@user-zw8bg5kc2u Жыл бұрын

“Hand assembled “

@mdsuave13 8 ай бұрын

Had a lightning for many many years and it has only had a couple misfires ever. Been edc'd much....

@luceatlux7087 11 ай бұрын

puling the trigger on a knife that's 30 x 8 = 240... 8x the price... ouch i guess i just wonder why our US stuff has to be SO much more expensive.

@vincentdavis8103 10 ай бұрын

Smith and Wesson otfb9

@user-zw8bg5kc2u Жыл бұрын

Best budget otf is a hifinder ultratech clone by far

@KnifeThoughts Жыл бұрын

But it's a clone so it's kind of a different category

@Errcyco 8 ай бұрын

The only thing that kills the Lightning is ironically.. fire/heat. KZfaq the dude who left his next to a bonfire he lit. Puddle of melted aluminum next morning.

@J.DeLaPoer 8 ай бұрын

As much as I love Lightnings for being a very good affordable OTF, the internal blade spring tabs are their fatal flaw. I've owned three originals since they first released, and two of them are now basically gravity knives due to the spring tabs bending/breaking so the blade will no long fire. Rebending the tabs can only be done a couple times (and won't last long) before they simply shear off at the elbow from metal fatigue. Apparently they use very mild steel with no heat treat on the inner mechanism parts, and the factory bending as opposed to machining or stamping the 90-degree angle into the tabs only exacerbates their inherent weakness. I haven't tried the Elites yet; but I mean honestly I don't care about the black accents or three-screw clip as long as they've fixed the poor tab design. All the rest is cosmetic and pointless when your knife won't fire.

@skullity3896 7 ай бұрын

I’ve been carrying around a Lightning Elite for 9 months now. It’s a more solid built but instead of 2 springs on the inside, there is only one thats bit thicker. It’s Chinese made so don’t expect much though it is good for edc uses.

@J.DeLaPoer 7 ай бұрын

@@skullity3896 The Chinese make some great higher end knives these days (see TwoSuns stuff for example), but yeah the first model Lightning needed a bit of improvement. Like I said though I just hope the spring tabs have been strengthened as that seems to be the weak point. I actually switched out my Lightning(s) for an AKC F-16 as my beater otf. Far better quality for slightly higher price, and has a modernized Italian stiletto aesthetic if you like that sort of design. Actually if you can find one on sale, the AKC Extreme EVO is I think the best "budget" otf out there right now. They're quite a bit pricier than a Lightning or even F-16, but the jump in materials quality and fit/finish is _huge_ and immediately noticeable. Honestly AKC should be making Microtech scared with the quality level they're putting out with most of their knives at a much lower price range... Their entire Extreme line is great stuff for the money.

@JonathanDawson-uo7jm 3 ай бұрын

HEY I HAVE TO ASK THIS CUS IM KINDA DESPERATE CUZ I CANT FIND ONE ANYWERE OK I ONCE WENT INTO A STORE CALLED DOLLAR WORLD ON AIRPORT IN BAKERSFIELD CALIFORNIA OILDALE 93308 AND SAW A OTF TRENCH KNIFE BUT NOT ONE LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE EVER SEEN IT HAD 2 BLADES ON IT YESS TO BLADES AND 2 SWITCHES THE SWITCHES KINDA REMINDED ME OF I GUESS SOMEWHAT LIKE A SPRING ASSISTED HOW YOU PULL THE LIL METAL THING TO OPEN IT BUT THIS METAL THING NOT PART OF THE BLADE AND HAD 2 IF ANYONE CAN HELP ME FIND ONE ID APPRECIATE THE HELL OUT OF YOU IVE LOOKED BASICLY EVERYWERE ALSO I KNOW IT MAY HAVE BEEN MADE IN CHINA BUT I DONT GIVE A FUCK I LOVED IT ANYWAY WAS 60$ OR SO

@carlsalvato8530 10 ай бұрын

Both these knives are way way over priced.

@rickledford2953 2 ай бұрын

For a budget knife. You're way two judgemental. And who would give their daddy a $30 knife!

@KnifeThoughts 2 ай бұрын

🤷‍♂️

@Lee-oq1ok 9 ай бұрын

Lightning elites are not good. Get the original. Better internals.

@FedeBL4 8 ай бұрын

Where can you get the original Taiwan made?

@samnero387 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. Budget OTF knives just seem like a headache!

@KnifeThoughts Жыл бұрын

So far they are haha

@SMOKER420 Жыл бұрын

I purchased the same knife but in a black handle. I hope my knife is Not like that. More than likely it is.🥲 I'm waiting for my knife to get here tomorrow

@KnifeThoughts Жыл бұрын

Please let me know. I hope you get a good one.

@SMOKER420 Жыл бұрын

@@KnifeThoughts I will, Thanks!