Logitech G923 TRUEFORCE Wheel - Unboxing & Detailed Review

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Timestamps:
Sexy Intro: 0:00
Overview/What's New: 01:25
Trueforce & Other changes: 04:05
Wheel & Pedals Setup: 09:44
First Use & Feel: 12:33
Pedals & New Brake: 14:24
Trueforce & Games: 17:51
Gameplay - ACC: 20:00
Gameplay - iRacing: 27:37
Gameplay - GT Sport: 29:56
G923 vs G29: 31:53
Dual Clutch Mode: 32:49
Impressions & Conclusions: 34:58
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The Logitech G923 Trueforce Sim Racing Wheel was announced and launched in August of 2020 just in time for the the next gen Playstation 5 and Xbox Series X and S consoles. Both this new wheel and the previous gen wheels will be supported on the new consoles. The G923 is of course also supported on PC. Here's my Unboxing & Detailed Review of the wheel and pedals
The biggest change to this wheel is the new Trueforce Force Feedback system. This is stacked on top of the features from the last gen which has been considered one of the best entry-level wheels on the market for the Price.
Trueforce allows simulation and audio engine data to be sent directly to the wheel for it to interpret and deliver to your hands. This means less canned effects and hopefully an easier integration for studios developing games with Trueforce SDK support.
Logitech also added some hardware upgrades to support this extra information from the SDK. Upgraded Motor Drivers, a faster polling rate, upgraded faster microcontroller and finally new firmware wrap up the hardware changes.
All of this comes together to deliver vibrotactile and kinesthetic FFB like engine notes, clunks from shifting and information about the car platform.
A new feature to the wheel is a new Dual Clutch launching mode which helps with standing starts. The Xbox version of the wheel has been improved with an increased number of inputs (from 15 to 20) as well as the addition of LED RPM gauges as seen on the PlayStation version of the wheel.
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@Kraaken_1
@Kraaken_1 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously your analysis has been the best I’ve seen for the G923. You are very adept at explaining what makes it work and the benefits and drawbacks. Looking forward to your next video. 👌
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm glad you found it informative. I put a lot of time and effort into videos. So it's very motivating to hear someone found it helpful!
@Kraaken_1
@Kraaken_1 3 жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech I have a G923 and next level cockpit also the shifter unopened. I want to do an unboxing from the perspective of a total noob lol. Any recommendations for that?
@pip5461
@pip5461 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kraaken_1 Good luck with that...
@yautjayarrington1732
@yautjayarrington1732 3 жыл бұрын
I got my first wheel yesterday at the age of 40 idk how people use these wheels, i guess it takes getting use to. I am having the most trouble with the brake it is so hard to push it all the way down, also i think my cockpit isn't the best.
@pip5461
@pip5461 3 жыл бұрын
@@yautjayarrington1732 Good luck, the main goal is to have some fun... :)
@thecrashbox3506
@thecrashbox3506 3 жыл бұрын
Ayyye Logitech.... He just sold me your wheel. First person that was able to articulate Truforce and the key differences between this and the previous generation. Well done man.
@tonymacias553
@tonymacias553 3 жыл бұрын
Finally found a video that explains everything I was looking for before buying my first wheel. Amazing.
@Skippy-id9yt
@Skippy-id9yt 3 жыл бұрын
Some advice , we all start with a logitech wheel , but end up with thrusrmaster or fanatec , I kinda wish I got thrustmaster straight away , you will find that youll want a GT3 type wheel or the sparco wheel etc and the thrustmaster wheel price is great for adding wheels on a payday and Logitech is quite limited to some only only mods you can buy and fanatec is more for bragging rights unless your a pro sim driver ...but thrustmaster is about to release a full fledged f1 wheel with carbon fibre and LCD display! .its a great wheel (G920 to G923 ) either way mate 👍
@Fizzglg
@Fizzglg 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skippy-id9yt iv tried multiple wheels of every brand and I use the logitech because it's unbreakable 😂
@bayernsa
@bayernsa 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fizzglg hmm that’s strange, to me Logitech feels like a toy, the rattling ffb, gear slipping it’s unbearable to me. I had a g29 for 2 years now and I could never play for long periods cos I would be disappointed with the way ffb is done. You get the geary feel when turning, ffb is not smooth. I’m getting a csl dd soon so hopefully that will be me set for 5+ years.
@Fizzglg
@Fizzglg 2 жыл бұрын
@@bayernsa you probably had a lemon lmao my friend has a fantec podium 2 and my logitech doesn't bother me
@psykology9299
@psykology9299 2 жыл бұрын
same here, can get these at a really good price here too (standard listings are around R10k, one of our pc e commerce sites here has them at R7k with free shipping nation wide)
@Gunsandtannerite
@Gunsandtannerite 3 жыл бұрын
you put so much effort into your reviews and videos you definetly deserve more views
@jean-pierresarti7069
@jean-pierresarti7069 3 жыл бұрын
Best review I’ve seen of this wheel, a nicely nuanced presentation of how it differs from the older Logitech wheels. I just subscribed in hopes you’ll be doing more sim hardware reviews and comparisons.
@kingghostOG
@kingghostOG 3 жыл бұрын
Just got my g923 and shifter , been enjoying it so far! Thanks for the very thorough review!
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Oh nice. Glad you are enjoying it. We sometimes put so much pressure on ourselves to pick the best or find the best deal we lose site of the goal of having fun with our tech. Happy driving!
@Makashimta
@Makashimta 3 жыл бұрын
Can u use it on the xbox one s?
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
@@Makashimta Yes. Xbox One, One S and One X. As well as Series X and Series S
@Makashimta
@Makashimta 3 жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech thankyou!
@kaoe145
@kaoe145 3 жыл бұрын
I got a g923 with shifter and stand for $275
@Aditya_Kumar7622
@Aditya_Kumar7622 Жыл бұрын
Best review seen so far for g923. Thank You!!!
@GsimRacing
@GsimRacing 2 жыл бұрын
The quality of your video is next level, excellent work!
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. It's always really good to know someone is finding my videos informative.
@swedneck9054
@swedneck9054 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty nice walkthrough!
@jwillzthrillz
@jwillzthrillz 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for such a detailed review and comparison!!! Helped me make the decision between the g29 and g923 for a starter wheel. Definitely going for the g923
@JuanLopez-oh4ul
@JuanLopez-oh4ul 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect review dude 👍 you sold me on it.
@alejandroflores14
@alejandroflores14 3 жыл бұрын
Watched the whole thing! really good bro, ty, im defo buying it
@badviper_gt
@badviper_gt 3 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about switching from controller to Sim racing wheel But I didn't know which direction I wanted to go. So thanks for your video my guy it was super super helpful🤙👍
@melvindwayne
@melvindwayne 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly detailed... 👌 Excellent video...
@rodrigopepe4630
@rodrigopepe4630 Жыл бұрын
love your work. subscribed
@xaerondk
@xaerondk 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Thank you for being so thorough. Just ordered g923 to use with ACC on pc. Can't wait
@solidious3399
@solidious3399 3 жыл бұрын
How's it going with the g923 thanks
@radioman970
@radioman970 Жыл бұрын
Just tried it myself. ACC really makes use of this wheel. Superb! Although, just got my wheel yesterday and I can't stop playing Project Cars. Incredible game. Those are so good they should work out something about licensing and relist. They deserve to be played for years to come.
@luizarthurbrito
@luizarthurbrito 3 жыл бұрын
Nice stuff. Just bought one, should arrive in a week. Can't wait to start racing!
@noahnapieraj6754
@noahnapieraj6754 3 жыл бұрын
What did it cost?
@shanm.8204
@shanm.8204 Жыл бұрын
By far best review on the 923. Mine is coming today, and also ordered a Rack for it. I hate waiting. Lol Thanks for the review.
@andycrawley8276
@andycrawley8276 2 жыл бұрын
Made it to the end..very informative I'm subscribing to your channel
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thank you for watching and subscribing!
@Afiso
@Afiso 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks sir. Now I will order this G923
@Bruschi354
@Bruschi354 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this wheel because of your video man. Great job, everything I wanted to know about it was in here. Keep up the great content, I will be subbing to help push your content to more people
@citruss5737
@citruss5737 2 жыл бұрын
to everyone looking forward to buying this thing, This is an awesome product dont worry about the table clamps the are lile glued to the table and the pedals feel amazing the only thing is that the vibration can make some noice but thats it
@opiumextract2934
@opiumextract2934 2 жыл бұрын
Gave you a like because us Brian's gotta stick together. Good video though, bought this wheel yesterday, can't wait to try it out
@lovebbqnoles367
@lovebbqnoles367 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You My Brotha! Your Expertise ARE 2nd To Nun!!! I Salute You!!
@uselesspenguin238
@uselesspenguin238 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are absolutely fantastic, I watched your video on the logitech g29 that has really helped me for Christmas this year keep it up!
@filipwawszczak4204
@filipwawszczak4204 3 жыл бұрын
Love your setup i might get a g920
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Yeah the if the G920 seems like the right wheel for you that's great. It's why Logitech is still offering the G29/G920 as well as the G923. You have choice!
@koketsopilane
@koketsopilane 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, just ordered this wheel because of your review. It really helped me make the decision and answered all the questions I had regarding this wheel.
@kujo1999
@kujo1999 9 ай бұрын
Any update?
@fireguru11
@fireguru11 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! What vibration strength and FFB settings in GT Sport would you recommend for the G923?
@maxhardy8648
@maxhardy8648 7 ай бұрын
thanks man, this was the most detailed and helpful review i could find anywhere. This helped me finally decide whether to buy the g920 or to shoot for the g923. Thanks a lot!
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. Really glad you found the video helpful! Happy racing!
@pip5461
@pip5461 3 жыл бұрын
I've just got a G923, perfectly adequate to use by any driver at any standard...
@opensource296
@opensource296 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@IsandJako
@IsandJako 3 жыл бұрын
finnaly i have found a detailed review took me long enough
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I'm glad you found it informative!
@SpaceCaptainLord
@SpaceCaptainLord Жыл бұрын
I’ve been going back and forth between this or spending more money I don’t want to on a more expensive wheel. I know this wheel isn’t perfect but you’re the first reviewer that has actually reviews this based on its merits and not just immediately said it sucked cause it’s not a direct drive wheel. You sold me on this wheel. Thanks!
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech Жыл бұрын
Glad you found the video helpful. Like you said the wheel has its flaws. Not much of an upgrade path or ecosystem. Pretty old gear FFB system. Trueforce is probably nowhere as good on this wheel as it is on the new Logitech DD. But this is a full wheel and pedals set for as low as like $350 but usually closer to $400. If you don't think the trueforce is worth it then there's still the less expensive g29/g920. But overall I think the wheel is more than good enough to have a lot of fun racing.
@wolfboy20
@wolfboy20 Жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech THANK YOU! This is one of the main reasons why i recently got this wheel! Its so much fun so far! Need more time with it though..
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech Жыл бұрын
@@wolfboy20 Enjoy your wheel and races man! Have as much fun as you can with it. If/When you start to outgrow it you can start looking at upgrades. But this wheel can take you pretty far/deep into the Sim Racing world.
@wolfboy20
@wolfboy20 Жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech Thank you so much!! & What kind of upgrades? Fanatec?
@princegroove
@princegroove 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new wheel setup! I’ll be picking it up for my launch day PS5 and gaming PC.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! If you have any questions please let me know!
@jmurr357
@jmurr357 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t spend that much on a Logitech man. That price tag just doesn’t add up for what it is. If you can find one for like 200$ that would be a reasonable price.
@princegroove
@princegroove 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmurr357 I’m kinda leaning towards Fanatec CL bundle.
@jmurr357
@jmurr357 3 жыл бұрын
@@princegroove that’s what I have now. Spend the extra 200$ you’ll thank yourself. And I mean I understand not everyone has the extra 200$. But if you can come up with 400$ you can have some patience and come up with another 200 for a far superior wheel. Even the belt driven t300-500 are way better then this “new” Logitech, and theyre 10 years old lol. Logitech just took a old ass wheel slapped a new name on it and re selling it 😂
@jmurr357
@jmurr357 3 жыл бұрын
@@princegroove I got the CSL elite ps4. It’s not the best but damn is it good
@NuriMustafa-yq5bu
@NuriMustafa-yq5bu 2 жыл бұрын
This is very informative, useful and somewhat emotional video! Your expressions regarding how doe the wheel feel in-game almost made me "feel" it too! Even though I don't have a wheel yet xD I'm only planning to buy my first wheel, and G923 seems to be a decent and reliable choice (I want to try out Dirt Rally 2.0, Forza Motorsport 7, Dirt 4 and GT 7 in future)! Thank you for your video!
@laykfenton-kerr1679
@laykfenton-kerr1679 3 жыл бұрын
100% geting one now thank you :)
@JunKeeTV
@JunKeeTV 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh imagine playing on a playstation
@Roundergaming0608
@Roundergaming0608 Жыл бұрын
the best detailed video about something Logitech would have also dont know that much about their steering wheel I think
@QTALISCHILL
@QTALISCHILL 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm considering getting a racing wheel whenever Gran Turismo for PS5 comes out
@GySgt_USMC_Ret.
@GySgt_USMC_Ret. 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! Very helpful in trying to decide between a G923 and an entry level Fanatec. Fair winds and following seas to all.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting. It's great to hear you found the video informative. Helping people make an informed buying decision is definitely my biggest goal. I unfortunately haven't used much Fanatec gear. Especially not for extended periods. I've reached out to both Thrustmaster and Fanatec and requested to review some of their products but as my channel is small and stock is limited I don't think it's too likely. But fingers crossed. As for Fanatec VS G923. The biggest bonus for Fanatec is the ecosystem IMO. It's of course higher quality gear and also more expensive. But it gives you multiple upgrade paths with 3/4 different wheel bases (CSL, Clubsport, DD1 and DD2) and a wide variety of wheel Rims. There's also the Universal Hub which let's you use a custom wheel rim and configure things yourself. If you're on PC you can use different brand pedals and shifters with a wheel like the G923. A lot of ppl say one of the most important upgrades is pedals as braking will help improve your lap time the most. Better or different force feedback can help maximize your potential but also diminished returns in terms of being faster. Immersion and comfort is important too. Price is definitely going to be one of the biggest factors. I think the least expensive Fanatec bundle for wheel & pedals is the CSL Elite PS4 Bundle which is $550-600 USD. So I think a good question to ask is do you intend to really delve deep into sim racing? Is it going to be a bit of a casual pass-time? Or a hobby you'll put a lot of hours into? Do you think you'll eventually want to upgrade past the G923 and end up with Fanatec gear anyways? Is it worth it to you to save a while longer or allocate more budget to be in a higher tier of gear that opens up the bigger ecosystem? For some people their budget is their budget. And saving more isn't an option. A common upgrade path from the Logitech wheels on PC seems to be: 1st Better pedals (Thrustmaster T-LCM, Fanatec CSL Elite LC, or Fanatec Clubsport V3), followed by upgrading the wheel base. Also thank you for you service!
@GySgt_USMC_Ret.
@GySgt_USMC_Ret. 3 жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech you do such a good job at communicating, if you worked for me, I would give you a 3 day pass. Ooorah! I've always been a PC racer. Started with a Red Momo Force, then a G25 that died right after the warranty expired. Switched to a Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback joystick for steering and the G25 pedals. The last game that worked for me with that configuration was NFS Shift 2. I had a blast running the EA sponsored Hot Lap Series for Shift and Shift 2. I'm looking to get back into racing as a hobby. From what I've seen, there is a marked difference between the FFB feel of the G923 and a Fanatec CS Elite belt drive. I wonder if the Fanatec pedals without a load cell are comparable to the G923 pedals with the progressive spring.
@TheBrennanSchafer
@TheBrennanSchafer 3 жыл бұрын
I've had both. Buy Fanatec. It's seriously not even close and anybody who has used both will tell you that. The added strength and belt drive add a night and day difference. Yeah, it's more expensive but easily worth it. So much more immersive and easier to determine the limits of the tires as the strength can dynamically move as move up and down as you push more or less G's (not to mention this makes things like S turns so much more fun!). Logitech's strength is binary. It is either softly pulling in one direction or it's not. I can't overstate how much difference this adds to the experience. After using Fanatec wheels, I honestly don't think I'd even pay $100 for any of Logitech's wheels. I race for a couple hours each night and am addicted to iRacing. Had just a Logitech wheel at my brother's house for a bit and I couldn't even bring myself to play it was such an extreme step down. Ended up buying A CSW 2.5 for his house over the holidays and I'm back to playing every night again. If you have the means, step up to a wheel with at least 6nm of force (CSL Elite is probably the best value), you won't regret it.
@motok1d
@motok1d 2 жыл бұрын
I just got a brand new g923 for $280usd and gt lite and playing gt7 with ps5 on lg cx is omg for real crazy fun. As the gt lite is quite a lite duty cockpit the vibrations of the true force go through the whole seat. My first wheel and I dont see me upgrading and time soon this is more than enough
@babochka11
@babochka11 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great review. If I go from DFGT wheel to G923, will it be a very good and noticeable change in the experience? Thanks.
@agustxm5877
@agustxm5877 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who doesn't hate Logitech makes a good video for this steering wheel
@cachidril
@cachidril 3 жыл бұрын
thank for the video it helped me a lot, I need a new wheeel and I think I will go for the 923
@louispouliot4102
@louispouliot4102 3 жыл бұрын
Go ahead, its the new model 2020 so ready for nextgen
@jean-pierresarti7069
@jean-pierresarti7069 3 жыл бұрын
One more comment: I definitely agree with you about the G920 brake pedal. It’s not a load cell, but I think it’s pretty good for what it costs. Have you tried the old pedal with the new wheel? Might have to apply the curve in-game, but maybe it’d be a good combination.
@JasperF12
@JasperF12 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I’m back again after a week. On my other comment you said what sort of content I’d like to see well can you do some f1 gameplay on either asseto corsa or f1 2019/20. Also asseto corsa compotezione that be fun anyway thx for the content keep it up 👍
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
I'll make sure I include some F1 games for sure. For this I tried to focus on Trueforce enabled titles. As for Asseto Corsa I mainly play ACC now. I have AC but don't play it much. But for the sake of testing I'll try to include it.
@Getinson
@Getinson Жыл бұрын
good review 👍
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
@gustavoberlandacarvalho9207
@gustavoberlandacarvalho9207 2 жыл бұрын
Very good your review. G923 for Xbox is as good as ever. Could you say how or where can I find information to adapt a hand brake you mentioned? Thanks
@verediano
@verediano 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have a wheel and I had doubts if it is worth. I HAD it, not anymore. Thank you for the clear and detailed explanation.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. I try to provide as much information as possible!
@verediano
@verediano 3 жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech thank you again. I'm waiting if arrive to begin my SIM life \o/
@ingamefocus3114
@ingamefocus3114 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really informative thanks, im having issues with my g923 for PlayStation, it worked great then the 2pin plug got disconnected from the power pack whilst in use and I reconnected, the true force just disappeared, the life went out of the wheel if you will, I ended up sending it back and got a replacement wheel but the replacement wheel is exactly the same, I can’t figure out other than potential patches or software changes what could be causing it? Checked all in game menus there set to how they were, recalibrated wheel, 🤔 So now when driving in a streight line in GTsport for example there’s nothing, you only feel pull and play in the wheel when cornering and going over road edges or hitting a wall, all other feedback seems to have disappeared, ghub seems to be only applicable if your using wheel on pc and currently no pc, it’s got me stumped, any info you may have would be great to hear, thanks 👍 Keep up good work
@CarlosFlores-xf2sn
@CarlosFlores-xf2sn 2 жыл бұрын
i havent owned a wheel since xbox 360 days which was a cheap $60 wheel but i just ordered this for my xsx i cant wait !
@keagandevilliers2832
@keagandevilliers2832 3 жыл бұрын
nice intro mate
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Thanks for watching!
@vorticalacorn7ok906
@vorticalacorn7ok906 2 жыл бұрын
You are the only reviewer that ive seen that doesnt completely trash on this wheel. Everyone else says "oh yeah this wheel is just a re skin and its cheap and the g29 is wayyy better." Or "this doesnt compare to my fanatec"
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. It is what it was. And it's not what a lot of people wanted to see from Logitech. But is still want to talk about it's merit and some of its short comings. I don't want to trash a product b/c it's what ppl want to hear. I just want to give ppl info so they can decide I've since used the Thrustmaster T300, Fanatec CSL Elite and VRS DFP. I'll say that True force does add something to the experience but it's not for everyone and still isn't supported in a lot of games. Generally a more expensive wheel base will be a better experience. But I don't think that's news to anyone.
@bestopinion9257
@bestopinion9257 11 ай бұрын
Truth is, the FFB is crap in some games without settings and fine tune. Maybe that's why. People love plug and play.
@jdmikeg4
@jdmikeg4 Жыл бұрын
If you have an old G29/G920 or G27 or G25 you can open it up and add fresh lithium grease to the gear mechanism. It will make it feel brand new again and more quiet.
@milsom88ify
@milsom88ify Жыл бұрын
What was the chair you was using in the video, I've just got the g923 true force wheel and a racing stand, with wheel tray, wonder if that chair is good enough for driving, thank you
@les67b38
@les67b38 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I just bought the G923 Sunday was using T150. I'm still learning. Just sign up Jan 9 2021 for Iracing. I'm learning a lot . im learning too of this true force you explain it good. Thank you Is there any setting I need to know of this wheel. Like I was saying I'm new to Iracing.
@kurok1tenshi
@kurok1tenshi 3 жыл бұрын
I´d love for them to drop the damn geardriven and switch to belt driven at least for a bit more of smoothness and bit more of torque... the extra tech is very good but the rattling, to me, is unsettling.But Awsome review, well explained and covered every aspect of the product i honestly think there is nothing else to be said after this review. pristine job, mate.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
For this gen it seems like iteration was there goal. Which it has been for quite a while now. They are putting focus into eSports but a lot of it is still in the entry-level. Hopefully if the interest in Sim Racing continues to grow they'll see the necessary potential market to expand their products and do some major changes.
@kriznelltoyoda3165
@kriznelltoyoda3165 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review of these hepatics against the TGT-II's inducer on or off in GT7, or compare the T500 against the TGT-II speed wise
@TheMullenator15
@TheMullenator15 3 жыл бұрын
Just got mine for $240. Cant wait for it to get here.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Wow that seems like a good price. Where'd you pick it up from?
@kaoe145
@kaoe145 3 жыл бұрын
Got mine with shifter and stand for $275
@AlasdairShearer-tb7fe
@AlasdairShearer-tb7fe 3 ай бұрын
I've got a Xbox Series X Your explanation has made my decision I'm getting a 923 for Forza Motorsports and ASC
@tombstonetony7789
@tombstonetony7789 3 жыл бұрын
New sub now I just bought mines from Best Buy just thinking to returning but I'm keeping it now thanks for the information
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Glad you found the video informative.
@MrChriselicious
@MrChriselicious 3 жыл бұрын
Are the two extra buttons on the PlayStation version remapable for PC? So that I can use them in games for what ever i want?
@GilDev2
@GilDev2 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting review, thank you! I think I’ll wait for the black friday to find a G29/G920 for my first wheel at hopefully around 150 € (without shifter) like it happened in the last years. The G923 is nice but too expensive (375 € here on Amazon) to justify the improvements, it’s the same price as a T300 RS GT which is apparently superior in multiple ways especially the FFB (even if it has no Trueforce, but haven’t tried it I would guess a better FFB without Trueforce is better than a worse FFB with Trueforce), aside from reliability and feeling.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you found the video informative. I'm not here to sell anyone any particular wheel. Providing viewers with the info they need to make the best decision they can is my goal. Cheers!
@GilDev2
@GilDev2 3 жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech Well I think you achieved your goal! This video helped me make my mind, and it’s great to have a genuine opinion about like the new brake pedal being a bit worse to you, because of what you explained about the pressure control being more precise. 👌
@kaoe145
@kaoe145 3 жыл бұрын
Got my g923 for 275 with shifter and stand
@GilDev2
@GilDev2 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaoe145 Okay. This comment was 5 months ago though and these were the common prices found at the time. The G923 is 320 € today with shifter on Amazon.fr, and it’s still expensive considering it’s more expensive than the T300RS GT.
@owen9997
@owen9997 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@DADRacingYT
@DADRacingYT 3 жыл бұрын
This going to be your main wheel?
@ShaffCloud81
@ShaffCloud81 Жыл бұрын
7y or something shirt...loved your review vid buddy. ty
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech Жыл бұрын
"7 Wide" and "Fast In Slow Out" are two of Dan Suzuki's slogans. He's a really cool Sim Racer. Check him out if you haven't already. Thanks for watching all the way through!
@ricardotorres1600
@ricardotorres1600 2 жыл бұрын
Great info...✌🇵🇷
@rohanleander
@rohanleander 3 жыл бұрын
I'm used to these videos cause I watch gamers Nexus and Hardware unboxed.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Well first thanks for watching! Second, thanks for mentioning me alongside those channels!
@kikoredog
@kikoredog 2 жыл бұрын
I took out the rubber stopper, but then I just ended up using the clutch as brake anyways since f1 uses the paddles with no clutch.(G920) Not sure if this was smart workaround but its what I got cuz that brake with the rubber in, renders the entire pedal system unusable without actually mounting it to something.
@barstoolpreacher7851
@barstoolpreacher7851 2 жыл бұрын
My experience don't have trueforce up full blast it causes the wheel to pull to one side 25 is about as much as you need
@hectorpcmr.
@hectorpcmr. 2 жыл бұрын
Is this plug and play on Steam for PC or would I have to do something on Steam to make it work??
@IrDnAT
@IrDnAT 3 жыл бұрын
It was really interesting feedback and now I want to buy that. But which one to choose when Im just computer guy? PS and PC or Xbox and PC?
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
I primarily play on PC and got the Playstation Version. The Playstation version has 2 more buttons. And I would like to play the new Gran Turismo soon. Most of the Xbox exclusive racing games like Forza will also be on PC.
@IrDnAT
@IrDnAT 3 жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech Okay. Thank You for the answer :D
@firebull6618
@firebull6618 3 жыл бұрын
I tried to adjust the vibration setting and nothing happened. Anyone knows what is wrong or how to increase the force feedback and true force?
@MDomi
@MDomi 3 жыл бұрын
Really nice quality of content. But you did one major mistake. 10db more means double the volume. 90db is 2x the volume of 80db.
@tunder4081
@tunder4081 2 жыл бұрын
Does anybody how to enable the wheel lights, I have had my g923 for over 4 months now and I can't find a way to turn them on, I have even tried fanaleds but it does not show up in the hardware tab. If you know how please help me I really want to play f1 2019 with the rev lights on.
@katman2192
@katman2192 Жыл бұрын
Is it smooth bro?
@jojohill27
@jojohill27 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly should I return the g29 wheel and spring the xtra 100 dollars to get the g923 is it worth the 100 dollars I went with the g29 to go with my playstation 5 and Gran Turismo 7 what are your thoughts here now in 03/2022 I would have to return the g29 and re order a g923 from best buy and wait for it to get shipped so yeah that's always tough waiting on
@haroldmaldonado4581
@haroldmaldonado4581 3 жыл бұрын
Question if you could pick which should i get the g920 with the shifter for 300 or the g923 for 480 usd i am just getting my first racing sim wheel but i am going to stick with one for atleast 5 ish years
@TheBrennanSchafer
@TheBrennanSchafer 3 жыл бұрын
For god's sake do not pay $480 for the g923! I bought it and a Fanatec CSL Elite starter kit for about $100 more (was even the same price as the G923 during the Black Friday sale) to se which one I liked more. I could not believe how big of a difference there was! And that's not even taking into consideration how many more options for wheels, shifters, brakes etc. there is in the Fanatec eco-system. After using the Fanatec, I seriously don't think I'd even pay $100 for the G923 and I'd easily pay $800 for CSL Elite. That is how big of a difference there is between the wheels and brakes despite being somewhat similar in price. I am a Logitech fanboi for most things but their wheels that are a rip-off. If for some crazy reason you can't save up for a fanatec buy a cheap G29 and a buttkicker. The butt kicker will do the same thing as "true force" but much better. Actually, I just read your last part about wanting it for 5 years. Get a Fanatec. No question. You don't want to be stuck with a Logitech for 5 years.
@Aiden-yx9ht
@Aiden-yx9ht 3 жыл бұрын
Well made video.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting Aiden!
@Aiden-yx9ht
@Aiden-yx9ht 3 жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech No problem, it's important to give credit where it is due. It's evident you put a lot of effort into your videos. I wish you the best of luck in 2021 to grow your channel as videogames become more and more popular. One question: If you have had the opportunity to test the T300 rs, do you think the TrueForce in the G923 is still worth it? Thank you.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aiden-yx9ht that's a great attitude to have l. As a smaller content creator enhancement and interaction isn't just a metric like larger creators. It's extremely motivating. I got to use the TX for a bit. It's essentially the Xbox version of the 300. Just talking about the base. The TX is belt driven so it's smoother and has more overall torque. I think the torque isn't that impressive in terms of total strength. But it does provide more dynamic range. The G923 still has lower torque so if you start to turn up the min force and have the Trueforce on it just has less range to work with. That's said the trueforce can make up for that. Oddly enough the gear driven system provides the ability to give the engine notes and road effects and curbs. Like Logitech leaned into the noise and chatter ppl hate on their wheels about. And as I mentioned in the video you get the game integration and other benefits of Trueforce. I've heard guys like Barry from Sim Racing Garage note lower end belt driven wheels have difficulty reproducing kind of high frequency effects like curbs and such. It's hard for belt driven wheels in general. I imagine that's why TM added a transducer to the TGT to give some similar effects as what Trueforce provides. Using the TX, like the G29, I did note that I had gotten used to the engine notes and extra Trueforce. Are they necessary to drive and be fast? No. But very nice to have. I think the TX is also overall faster but maybe a bit slower in quick change of direction. I'm terrible at drifting but I tried a bit with both. The TX didn't have to be thrown as much as the G929. But I had a harder time changing direction smoothly with the TX. So it's a hard call for me. TX obviously has the benefit of a wider ecosystem and upgrade path. Interchangeable wheels, a better shifter. You can get DIY wheels working on them pretty easy. Their new load cell pedals seem nice and I think cam be used with it as well. So those are pretty big benefits for anyone that thinks they'll upgrade down the road. Especially on PC. So that's not definitive but I hope it provides some points to think about.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Enhancement -> engagement
@Aiden-yx9ht
@Aiden-yx9ht 3 жыл бұрын
​@@BallisticTech Well once again I appreciate your reply. I'm looking forward to videos you produce in the future and will check out some of your older ones. I don't usually watch Product Review videos in length, and for what it's worth I had no problem watching this video back-to-back. As for your reply I think I will end up going with the G923, because I am not looking to upgrade to PC. I just want something I can have in my living room to play GT 7 on the PS5 when it comes out. Maybe once the nostalgia wears off (as I have not tried a wheel before) I could look at selling and upgrading down the line. At that point hopefully Logitech or TM will have come out with a new wheel that's an upgrade from this one having in mind TrueForce for the PS5. (Waiting for more games to utilize the DualSense controller.) I really think the DualSense's haptic feedback is going to change the industry. I appreciate the help, Take care.
@lautarogarcia1099
@lautarogarcia1099 2 жыл бұрын
hey! so ibought the wheel after watching your video. I have used it for the past week, and tried the trueforce on asseto corsa competizione, and it doesnt feell thata powerfull. I mean in your video you talk about how you can feel that the wheels have dirt in them after hitting the grable, but i cant feel any of that, i can only feel the vibration due to the motor, should i be concerned that the wheel is broken?
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 2 жыл бұрын
I was able to feel more road and curb effects after turning the gain in ACC up much higher. Doing so does make the wheel much louder. You may also have different settings for the road effects and dampening. The version of the game I was playing on was quite a bit older. There's been multiple patches including FFB changes. Lastly FFB I'd VERY subjective. What feels great and clear to one person might feel terrible and barely noticeable to another.
@Koragh_
@Koragh_ 2 жыл бұрын
Just got one for xbox and kinda frustasted had to fix the sensitive and all but still its harder than gettinf used of console after so many years of forza with the controler but overal good i guess woulsnt go for a wheel if you really arent ready curiousity woul only lead to temporal hype then you keep it in his box afterwards
@bikotheanimator6169
@bikotheanimator6169 2 жыл бұрын
I only watched a few minutes of throughout the video. Mostly about the pedal and the trueforce driving gameplay. I already know this is the best review and critique analysis of the wheel on youtube. I am trying to decide between this and the Thrustmaster T300 rs gt. I was originally going with the thrustmaster first, but it seems to be sold out everywhere and time is running out for Gran Turismo.
@bikotheanimator6169
@bikotheanimator6169 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered the wheel yesterday. Best Buy has it for new right now.
@tonynittoli4792
@tonynittoli4792 2 жыл бұрын
How is it? You end up with Logitech
@superman37876
@superman37876 3 жыл бұрын
Are the brake pedals the same in terms of force need to press? I tried the G920 before and the brake was super hard to press down because of the rubber stopper in the pedal assembly. Tried the F1 2020 game and would press the brake and would barely stop. Just wondering how far down the brake pedal can be pressed.
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
I go into pretty good detail around 14:24. With any pedal you can calibrate it with drivers or in game so the farthest you're able to press down the pedal will equate to 100% braking.
@razek007
@razek007 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I have a G920 and was suffering with the brake pedal with all racing games (Forza, ACC, PC, F1, etc). I took off the little rubber from the brake pedal and my experience has changed for the better, no more knee pain, stable driving and more consistent with lap times. Even though ballistic tech does not recommend taking it off (but replacing with softer rubber), try it out... It is a game changer.
@FrancisRobert
@FrancisRobert 3 жыл бұрын
Fast in slow out :-)
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Heeey! Thanks for watching and commenting Francis. I hope you found the video informative.
@diptapradnyana3258
@diptapradnyana3258 3 жыл бұрын
15:43 actually you can remove the deadzone if you happened to take out the black rubber thing, to remove the deadzone you just need to recalibrate your brake pedal by fully pressing down the brake pedal while you connect the usb and wait until the wheel stop spinning and ready to go
@Metalwrath2
@Metalwrath2 3 жыл бұрын
not at all
@randymarshprofessionalfarm5818
@randymarshprofessionalfarm5818 3 жыл бұрын
They need to make a g25 shifter for the g923 And why did they name it g923 when I was told the ps one is named g923 as well I panicked thin I get the ps one
@jdmikeg4
@jdmikeg4 Жыл бұрын
All Logitech pedals and stick shifters are compatible. I have a G27 and both the pedals and shifter work on the G29 as well as the G920. I’m assuming they also work with the latest G923.
@bestopinion9257
@bestopinion9257 11 ай бұрын
G27 shifter works with G29 wheel, but not the buttons on it.
@georgfranko
@georgfranko 3 жыл бұрын
G920s brake made me sell the whole wheel . I was forced to use the clutch as a break . I was just unable to break , waaaaaay to hard
@seppik673
@seppik673 3 жыл бұрын
same
@DomV123
@DomV123 3 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to the g27? that was my sim wheel of choice until I sold it a couple months ago.
@bestopinion9257
@bestopinion9257 11 ай бұрын
I will say G27 is better. Better built quality, buttons on shifter, more compatibility with old games and any game.
@mrmoncherz2574
@mrmoncherz2574 3 жыл бұрын
On social media I seldom ever see people have problems with Logitech wheels, if the do most times it’s because they didn’t have it tuned right
@koros563
@koros563 2 жыл бұрын
So should I get the g923 or the t300rs gt..
@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883
@kuvyoghmoobamelica6883 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest complaint I have is the steering wheels is tiny as fck. It needs to be almost or as big as a real car steering wheel. Other than that, the system is so good. It matches up to the thrustmaster ts-pc. The ts-pc is better because it feels like a real car, but its $700 without the shifter
@pip5461
@pip5461 3 жыл бұрын
Does the Magnetic Shifter Mod for the G29 & 920 work on the G923 ?
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I've used my 3D Printing magnetic mod and it works on the G923. Generally speaking the construction is exactly the same as the previous models so most mods SHOULD work for the G923.
@pip5461
@pip5461 3 жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech Excellent...where's the best place to buy it ...
@jasonmurray7732
@jasonmurray7732 Жыл бұрын
i just bought the logitech steering wheel, doea anybody know why it does not work on my nascar game
@bunkerspy7469
@bunkerspy7469 3 жыл бұрын
Works on Xbox one series x and ps4 and Ps5 doesn’t it?
@nailahquraniquemahakayana2184
@nailahquraniquemahakayana2184 2 жыл бұрын
whats the different beetwen g923 and g29
@sanzharseifullin672
@sanzharseifullin672 2 жыл бұрын
Sexy intro got me dying
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting!
@knifedbyakangaroo
@knifedbyakangaroo 3 жыл бұрын
ive got no lights showing in the middle when in game , is this ok?
@DissTrackTed
@DissTrackTed 3 жыл бұрын
Only certain games support it. Functionality will be even more limited on the Xbox version when playing console because the G920 never had shift lights, so developers would not have implemented it. That being said, some may have updated their games to do so. I went with the PlayStation version this time because I have Dirt Rally and GT Sport On PSVR.
@Alfredo87Na
@Alfredo87Na 3 жыл бұрын
Mi devi aiutare, ho appena conprato il g923.... ho notato che appena premo la frizione fa un cigolio tipo uno stridulo....dovrei fare il reso? È normale che stride mentre lo premo?
@BallisticTech
@BallisticTech 3 жыл бұрын
Auto-translate: Ciao. Non parlo italiano quindi questo è tradotto. Il mio pedale della frizione non cigola. Se è abbastanza rumoroso da non poterlo affrontare, forse puoi restituirlo e ottenerne uno che non cigoli. A volte prodotti come questi possono essere "rotti" e cose come cigolii scompaiono. Se ti senti a tuo agio nello smontare i pedali senza invalidare la garanzia, puoi provare ad aggiungere un po 'di lubrificante come il grasso termico. I pedali sono costruiti proprio come il G29. Quindi puoi trovare un video di KZfaq che spiega come smontare e rimontare i pedali G29. In bocca al lupo. English: Hello. I don't speak Italian so this is translated. My clutch pedal doesn't squeak. If it is loud enough that you can't deal with it maybe you can return it and get one that doesn't squeak. Sometimes products like these can be "broken in" and stuff like squeaks will go away. If you feel comfortable disassembling the pedals without voiding your warranty you can try to add some lubricant like lithium grease. The pedals are constructed just like the G29. So you can find a youtube video explaining how to disassemble and reassemble the G29 pedals. Good luck.
@Alfredo87Na
@Alfredo87Na 3 жыл бұрын
@@BallisticTech grazie
@dnugros412
@dnugros412 3 жыл бұрын
is it better than T300?
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