I refuse to believe someone hasn't made an edit of this.

OMG That would be the perfect crossover!

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They should have gone to Auschwitz. But that would be more of the TVMA not the TVA.

Archeologists finding footprints with the TVA boot sole pattern

Is it tho? Not really… it’s just volcanic activity, not some advanced time freezing technology… everything was ABSOLUTELY not “perfectly” preserved. That’s literally impossible

​@@alphamineron I guess people's positions and possessions might change though? You can go and see the bodies at Pompeii.

@@piyam5948 I think the TVA concept was that those changes wouldn’t propagate to much bigger effects due to the chaos occurring at the time. Even if people’s positions changes, none of those changes matter. At max, you’ll have a different historical museum exhibit than before. It’s more that there is a very high threshold of interference before the timeline branches… whereas in normal situations, a minor interaction can lead to a branch.

Night at the Museum.

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@@dandynoble19 yesssss!!

And not a miniature figure this time 😅

I understood that reference

Thats not correct

@@turd807 lol there were around 20,000 residents of pompeii at the time, around 2,000 died, wanna explain what happened to the other thousands of people then

Yes, didn’t Pliny the Elder set out to at first study, then to advance on a rescue mission when he was delayed for hours at the home of a friend. He was able to send observations to his nephew Pliny the Younger. The younger Pliny has given today’s world the best insight of what happened that day, as he was an eyewitness too, just further away. Generally speaking the eruption was in two main phases; a lighter phase of ash and pumice and hours later, the real killer, pyroclastic flows.

It was never about the people, it was how the town was literally erased off maps cause no one could find it after and it was a major trade settlement.

How is that less captivating? The fact that not as many people died?

British but ok

American? He has an english accent.

The way he says "vos omnes" sounds more USA than UK to me, but at that level of examination, there are multiple USA accents and multiple UK accents. Variations, you might say. Alas, the scene has no spoken words from locals, for comparison with their accents in the local dialect of Latin. USAmericans who speak Latin aloud sometimes shift accept towards British English, because that feels more formal and "old school". I try to speak Latin more or less as if I were speaking Italian, but even when I actually speak Italian, my accent gets influenced by my Spanish. Language is COMPLICATED.

@@xNaxdy he speaks latin with an american accent because he was probably taught by an american

@@user-pi3hd2bt3f NOT WHEN SPEAKING LATIN, THATS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE COMMENT.

My first thought while watching it when it came out was that The Doctor and Donna were inside the mountain, about to light it off :D

It's nice to know i'm not the only one who thought of Doctor Who as well ✊😄

@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist1why do you comment the same thing on every single comment?

Immortal. He had plenty of time to learn.

the Marvel Norse Gods innately possess something called the All-Tongue, they can speak any language they know of

Well, Tom Hiddleston can speak perfect Latin. As far as Loki is concerned, he may have learned it on one of the journeys to Earth Odin brought Loki and Thor on

The same way he and Thor speak modern English so fluently.

He's 1050 years old, you pick up a thing or two.

😂😂

Lmaoooo I love when extras mess up

Doesn'yt have to pay rent anymore

Probably a slave, just thinking "Finally, they are all suffer and die, ALL OF THEM".

​@@johnwong5317 Or maybe he wants to see whole country getting burned 😂

Isn’t that basically half the season? These two stole the show for me tbh. Couldn’t imagine it without a Mobius character, they bounce off each other so well

And with ,,Hakuna matata" )) The God of MischieF 1 1/2: midgard hillarious adventure

I think they know or at least have a little idea of what a volcano is. In the mythology, the god of blacksmiths is called Vulcan and works in the Etna.

@@lindildeev5721 that's part of the tragedy of Pompeii. They had no idea what Mt Vesuvius was. But yes the word volcano came from the Roman god Vulcan.

That would have been a great cameo. In fact, there must be dozens of time travel shows that had a "Pompeji episode". Someone should shine a spotlight on this trope by depicting Pompeji as being fully populated by time-travelling spectators.

​@lindildeev5721 The idea that mountains were inhabited by spirits, gods, dwarves, dragons or other creatures was a widespread belief that applied to all mountains. People would point out individual mountains and say "this one emits smoke because a god has a furnace in it" or "that one looks this way because a troll likes to sit on it". But I don't think they realized that there was an entire category of mountains that was fundamentally different from other mountains.

@@BrokenCurtain you also forgot to mention the "boat turn into the mountain" belief

Yep, if I was concerned about being detected by my changes to the timeline, I would be somewhere where I couldn’t change anything if I tried. It’s just that I’d choose to relive the day the dinosaurs died, in central America, instead.

not about looking but impossible to detect

Well as long you don’t leave behind something insignificant like pieces of gold or anything that can survive 3000 years.

People always find me in the last place they look, because when they find me, they stop looking!

did you not see the gas? that stuff kills you hella fast

​@@Dilllonmdid you not actually read a paper on the sequence of events before opening your slop hole. I guess that your God and have rewritten the fact that the initial eruption plugged the main vent and greatly reduced the amount of gas and ash that escaped and let pressure build up like the pressure cooker bombs from the boston marathon until kaboom main eruption wipes it all out

@@DilllonmThe eruption in Pompeii first started with tremors and ash coming from the volcano which formed into pumice stones that fell upon the town later in the day. It was only in the evening that the pyroclastic surge completely incinerated everyone.

An example is the two embracing bodies they found. Loki's interference could lead to them being separated, meaning they may not have been displayed in a museum or drawn in as big of a crowd, leading to fewer people being interested, and a greater chance of someone important making a different decision in life because they didn't spend their time looking at this piece of history.

But none of those changes would affect the sacred timeline to any significant amount. It could fester and cause more "spontanious" branchings later on, but none of the actions taken here threaten the path that leads to Tony Stark inventing time-GPS for Kang to discover- the Sacred Timeline.

And why would that matter? They would still all be corpses to be uncovered later and would still be placed in a museum Literally nothing aside from where they are found would change

@@summermelody7942the butterfly effect is much, MUCH stronger than you think. Even the slightest alteration can change absolutely everything. There’s way too many factors to account for to determine what will or will not happen as a result.

​@boobyegg2135 is the butterfly effect even something that can be estimated? Because I don't think anyone has actually established the flow of causality between butterflies and hurricanes.

so does the actor

They didn't know that, though

Not necessarily. From what I've seen of the show they seem to be running with the concept that time has a bit of inertia and some self correcting ability or at least an ability to ignore outliers to a certain extent. If it didn't, the TVA showing up anywhere would cause a branch off. Loki and Mobius just standing there in the past would have caused a butter fly effect. It's possible that the trigger for a nexus event varies in needed deviance depending on the integrity of the timeline at that point. For example Going back and moving a random patch of dirt 5ft to the right, 5 min before the castle bravo test isn't going to mean anything in the macro scale of the timeline. The bomb still detonates, no nexus event created. Just because the bodies of the people are in different places, in the macro view of the timeline it doesn't matter. They still died at Pompeii. It's a small enough deviation that another random deviation further along the timeline kicks it back into the correct position relative to everything else. I would suspect if it didn't work that way, quantum probability and stock standard entropy would cause an infinity cascade where an infinite number of branches spawn at every point in every timeline.

Don't have a definite source except Wikias, but the Sacred Timeline is actually a collection of closely related timelines. The TVA only prunes timelines that don't lead to the birth of He Who Remains. Loki's interference at Pompeii very well created branches, but they are not sensed by the TVA because the volcano eruption smothered the impact of their interference to almost irrelevance.

This was explained in episode 1 itself cmonnnn, minor variances in decision such as a guy drinking water instead of coffee do not affect the timeline but a dictator commiting genocide instead of suicide is so the tva would prune the dictator not the drinker, finding ashes in a diff location literally makes no difference whatsoever lol

In that timeline Italy has been found in 78 AD...

Yes Pompei Is in Italy, what are you so surprised about?

@@m.m.1301 In 79 AD they were called Roman Empire not Italy. I think he meant that...

Italy is applicable from 1861.@@m.m.1301

@@crawlinbacktoyou8282 We have been called Italy much before the empire existed

Thor says he's 1500 years old in Infinity War, and Loki is his younger brother. That should put his birth sometime after AD 500. That would align with what we saw in "Thor", where the Asgard/Jotunheim war is shown coming to Earth during the Viking Age. All this to say that neither prince saw Pompeii or any of the Roman era. If we take the MCU comments about Asgardians living about 5,000 years at face value, it's interesting to consider that Odin was still quite young when the Great Pyramid was built and never saw Catal Hoyuk.

I don't think The Hand is canon anymore

It is canon. Kevin Feige is just too incompetent with consistency. I mean, it’s the same guy who says the MCU is earth 616, when 616 is the main comic book continuity. The REAL earth designation for the MCU is earth 19999.

With the Defenders Saga being canon in MCU now, is curious to think that the Hand somehow was responsable of Pompeii's destruction. (They mentioned it in The Defenders and who knows, maybe they were looking for more dragon bones to keep them young).

But ultimately, that doesn't cause a different He Who Remains varient to appear so the timeline is preserved

Unless Loki and Mobius were meant to go to that moment and do what they were supposed to do. Causing those people to move exactly where they were supposed be, them being in Pompeii was the causal nexus. In the end it does not matter time travel doesn't work and can't, once you change something you'd never have to change it therefore it returns where it was.

Really puts the "time" in Morbin' time

In the comics, the gods speak the all-tongue; any mortal that hears a god speaking, he hears it in his native toungue.... so when speaking to the romans; Loki seems to spak latin, but when he adresses Mobius, we hear english... ...or, another reason is that argardiarns, visited Europe in the bronze age; taugth the germanic tribes how to speak their language, asgardian; and the germanic tribes continued speaking it for centuries... but it evolved into different diallects, and later languges: german, dutch, norwegian, swede,... and english; that for some reason, it does sound allmost exactlly as the original asgardian language (maybe Shakespeare was an asgardian who lived in earlly modern england and with his literature helped old meieval anglo-saxon to become modern 'asgardian' english)

@@dhorn4005 but wasnt thor being able to understand groots language considered an elective on asgard implying that they do indeed need to learn langauges

because of a human and a Time Lord blew up Vesuvius

Ah, yes, you have found the one non-perfectly-realistic detail of the Loki series. Could you please post the lines, re-translated into the dialect of that place in that time?

Actually it does, branching needs to affect something, so without that there is just nothing

It depends on what "Variance energy" is. Possibly, variance energy is the amount the universal timeline is disturbed by an action. Because any action taken in this time & place has little consequence in any vicinity outside the village about to be destroyed anyway, it wouldn't show up as a disturbance in the universal timeline. Now if they for example, left behind a cell phone? That was eventually picked up by archaeologists? That would definitely make an impact. But you have a lot more leeway in what won't show up just before an apocalyptic event. If it weren't about to be destroyed, you'd be absolutely right. But that change just doesn't have time to cascade into a branch.

​@ChaoticFoxxx We learned many times in this series that the only reason branches flag to be Pruned is because it will create a Kang variant.

​@@Noah-pr2orwrong, branches are pruned because they create a *possibility* of creating a Kang variant.

​@@hritviknijhawan1737 close enough

Typical Disney not paying attention.

No one understood it though. No one in Rome knew what a volcano was, there wasn't even a Latin word for it

​@@trbz_8745That is...not quite right. Romans absolutely understood the concept of a volcano, as did the Greeks before them, they just didn't feel the need to invent a new Latin word when "mountain emitting fire" was sufficient. Vesuvius being volcanic wasn't a total unknown, either, Greek and Roman writers described it accordingly before 79 AD, even if not every Pompeiian was aware.

@@RobinHood3000 It is like during a hurricane some people just stand there and watch it even though they know what it is... or fall off cliffs taking selfies or fall in acidic hot springs