London Has 14 Terminal Railway Stations. Wow!

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Күн бұрын

Australia's capital cities generally have just one centrally located railway station where regional and inter city / inter state passenger trains arrive and depart from.
So when Australians like myself visit London we are blown away by the fact that the city doesn't just have 1 'Central' station but has (and depends how you count them) over 14 'Central' railway stations. Gosh! Which one do we go to when we want to leave the capital?
This is Part 1 of 3 videos of the Terminal Stations of London. "Mind The Gap".
Note in earlier versions it was mentioned that Sir Gilbert Scott designed Westminster Abbey - however he actually only worked on an extension to it as the majority of that building existed 500+ years before Scott worked there. I have deleted that portion of the video - it will take a few hours to update on line. Thanks for the viewers who pointed that out.

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@frglee
@frglee 5 күн бұрын
Marylebone was originally the terminus of the Great Central Railway which did link to the cities of Leicester, Nottingham, Sheffield and Manchester, and later on by the LNER and British Rail regional services until the late 1960s, but the station doesn't serve any of those places these days. Chiltern Railways, which operates from the station nowadays, serves Aylesbury, Bicester, Banbury Birmingham, Oxford, Leamington, Kidderminster and Stratford upon Avon.
@user-ym1ef8rd3o
@user-ym1ef8rd3o 2 күн бұрын
Great video. Very interesting and informative. Looking forward to the other episodes.
@tomburnham5119
@tomburnham5119 5 күн бұрын
I believe it wasn't entirely the fault of the old private companies. In the early Victorian period when the original railways were being authorised, Parliament decided they didn't want railways from the north coming further towards the centre than Marylebone Road/Euston Road/Pentonville Road, then quite recently laid out as part of a ring road around the central area which was even more congested back then. This is essentially the line of the northern side of the Circle Line. There were occasional proposals for a grand central station, but these never came to anything, largely due to the amount of property demolition that would have been needed. Alan Jackson wrote a book called 'London's Termini' some years ago which details the history of all these stations. Copies are fairly easily available secondhand.
@BackTracks.SideTracked
@BackTracks.SideTracked 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the information - really interesting. I'll add that to the next videos on make on the remaining lines. And thanks for the heads up on the book. Appreciate it.
@markiliff
@markiliff 4 күн бұрын
Yep. Came here to say that. Though instead of "parliament" I was going to say "the privileged classes"…
@user-cf3cr8ki7e
@user-cf3cr8ki7e 21 сағат бұрын
Beautiful building
@eggchipsnbeans
@eggchipsnbeans 5 күн бұрын
Your enthusiastic and gentle tone, easily makes up for the little slips.
@terrencelau509
@terrencelau509 5 күн бұрын
Great video talking about the terminals
@arwelp
@arwelp 2 күн бұрын
Of course, Marylebone station is the only one that never features in the Sherlock Holmes stories, even though it’s just round the corner from Baker Street, because it was the last terminus to be built, after the stories were written.
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 2 күн бұрын
St Pancras was very different before the millennium. Direct services to Scotland ended in the 1970s, Glasgow's St Enoch terminus having closed in the 1960s. The former Midland Railway route through the Peak District to Manchester was also abandoned in 1968, and glamorous named trains and sleepers were a distant memory, leaving a connection to the East Midlands and a Bedford commuter service. Outside of rush hours, St P was a fairly quiet place, and plans to close it were underway as Victorian architecture was held in contempt by modernists. Unthinkable now, but it could have easily followed Euston to the wrecking ball.
@lordgemini2376
@lordgemini2376 5 күн бұрын
Great video. Love running into Aussies in London, there are so many of you here :)
@BackTracks.SideTracked
@BackTracks.SideTracked 4 күн бұрын
But good news for you guys, I went back home :)
@srfurley
@srfurley 4 күн бұрын
It’s really not possible to say how many terminus stations London has, because it depends on how you count them. I used to reckon fifteen: Paddington Marylebone Euston St. Pancras Kings Cross Moorgate Broad Street Liverpool Street Fenchurch Street Victoria Waterloo Charing Cross Holborn Viaduct Cannon Street London Bridge Broad Street and Holborn Viaduct have since been closed and demolished; that leaves thirteen of my ones still open. There are a number of reasons why some people came up with different numbers: Some counted Victoria as two stations. Some counted Bank because it is the terminus of the Waterloo and City line, which at that time was operated by British Rail. Some counted Blackfriars, I didn’t because it had bay platforms, which were on the East side until the last rebuild, but trains only used these at times when Holborn Viaduct was closed. Some counted Kensington Olympia because it used to have some terminal platforms, there was the !otorail terminal in the North West corner, where the car park is now. There ware also bay platforms at both ends on the East side; I once saw Bertram Mills circus loading up in one of the Northern bays, probably in the early ‘60s. Some didn’t count Moorgate because it wasn’t a BR station. There were also some long closed termini: Spa Road was a retains for a time until the line was extended to London Bridge. It later closed completely but the buildings survive at street level and there are traces at track level where there is access for engineers. Some years ago passengers were evacuated there after an accident. Bricklayers Arms became a goods station for many years until it closed. It saw occasional passenger trains, may mother remembered having caught a special train from there to go hop picking a xlikd, probably in the 1930s. Shoreditch, later renamed Bishopsgate, was the terminus of the Eastern Counties Railway until it was extended to Liverpool Street. It then became a goods station until destroyed by a fire in 1964. Shoreditch High Street Overground Station now stands on the site, with parts of the old walls and Viaduct still visible. I think one thing is certain, we had too many stations.
@BackTracks.SideTracked
@BackTracks.SideTracked 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. So interesting! I knew I was getting into a bit of mine field with this topic - as I was researching it, I was confused to how many there were - and also could a terminal station only have through platforms? I would love to use a bit of this commentary in my next video. Hope that is OK.
@KingOuf1er
@KingOuf1er 5 күн бұрын
Sir Gilbert Scott may have worked on some extensions to Westminster Abbey, but the majority of that building existed 500+ years before Scott worked there.
@BackTracks.SideTracked
@BackTracks.SideTracked 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for the correction. Yes sorry I now realise that he only designed some extensions to it. I have deleted that section of the video to avoid more confusion that he built the original structure. Thanks for watching.
@RoyCousins
@RoyCousins 4 күн бұрын
St Pancras Station and the Midland Grand Hotel in front of it was designed by Sir (George) Gilbert Scott. His grandson, Sir Giles Gilbert Scott designed the red telephone box (K2), Liverpool Cathedral, Battersea Power Station, Bankside Power Station (now known as the Tate Modern) and several major University building in both Oxford & Cambridge.
@marcuspethurst2939
@marcuspethurst2939 3 күн бұрын
You might want to clarify which Brunel built Paddington.
@trains_and_walks
@trains_and_walks 4 күн бұрын
Marylebone does have intercity mainline train services to Birmingham.
@brianwillson9567
@brianwillson9567 3 күн бұрын
St Pancras, train shed and hotel, best building in london,
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios 4 күн бұрын
Another factor to consider is that, when the railways began, London did not have a "center": It had at least two: The City and Westminster. Consequently, KX, StPan, Euston, CharX, etc. were seen as comfortably in the middle of the two centers, while Paddington and Victoria were considered suitable for access to the West End. Liverpool St., Fenchurch St., Blackfriars, etc. were seen as serving The City. Waterloo was built as a temporary terminus south of the Thames, but LSWR was never allowed to bring its trains into The City. Although proposals were doubtlessly made for connecting the two downtowns with a central steam-powered railway cutting through the center of London, only the Metropolitan and the District were ever built, and only the Metropolitan ever hosted long-distance trains, eventually even building the City Widened Lines now used by Thameslink.
@BackTracks.SideTracked
@BackTracks.SideTracked 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for the additional information. Great. I didn't know that. Appreciate it.
@pacificostudios
@pacificostudios 3 күн бұрын
@@BackTracks.SideTracked - You're welcome. In my grad school days, I came across a map of London in the 1700s, and you could plainly see that "London" was The City and Westminster connected by The Strand, and everything else around it was farms and docks to supply the Capitol. For example, a 17th century source of bawdy tunes includes one about a farm maid carrying food for sale from Islington, the first neighborhood north of The City's walls. 18th century London shows the limits of urban living before modern transportation.
@KingFinnch
@KingFinnch 5 күн бұрын
I think you might’ve meant westminster cathedral, as westminster abbey is almost 1,000 years old
@BackTracks.SideTracked
@BackTracks.SideTracked 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for the correction. Yes sorry realise that he only designed some extensions to it. I have deleted that section of the video to avoid more confusion that he built the original structure. Thanks for watching.
@visionist7
@visionist7 4 күн бұрын
And New Yorkers thought two terminus stations were a lot 👻
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 4 күн бұрын
I would add Baker Street (between Marylebone and Euston) to the list, as the terminus of the Metropolitan Railway, now the Metropolitan Line of the Underground. That it is considered "underground" rather than "overground" is more down to 1930s politics than any actual characteristics of the line, and the decision to group it with London Transport rather than LNER or LMS. The Metropolitan Railway also owned the East London Line and Northern City Line, which were later reclassified as "Overground". The South Western Railway owned the Waterloo & City Line which was considered "overground" up until the end of the Network South East era, even though it is the most underground line in the entire network.
@richardhastie1432
@richardhastie1432 4 күн бұрын
The Metropolitan Line terminates at Aldgate.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 4 күн бұрын
@@richardhastie1432 Yes, but most of the trains terminate at Baker Street.
@jimbo6059
@jimbo6059 5 күн бұрын
Sir George Gilbert Scott actually designed the current houses of parliament after a blaze that consumed most of the buildings on that land. Westminster Abbey had been there nearly 1000 years befire so he did not design that.
@BackTracks.SideTracked
@BackTracks.SideTracked 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the correction. Yes sorry realised that he only designed some extensions to it - and I should have realised the dates wouldn't have worked out. I have deleted that section of the video to avoid more confusion that he built the original structure. Thanks for watching. It will take a few hours for the new edit to appear.
@ralphgiles4754
@ralphgiles4754 3 күн бұрын
Good video......however...why do Australians end each statement or phrase as though it were a question?
@zeeh6227
@zeeh6227 5 күн бұрын
London Paddington and Liverpool Street isn't the top twi busiest train in London. The busiest is London waterloo.
@regpither3392
@regpither3392 4 күн бұрын
Liverpool St has taken Waterloo's crown since the Elizabeth Line was built
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 4 күн бұрын
Not any more. During the pandemic, Stratford took the top spot, then following that and the opening of the Elizabeth Line, Liverpool St took it with Paddington in second place.
@EElgar1857
@EElgar1857 4 күн бұрын
I can't believe you mis-pronounced St. Pancras.
@BackTracks.SideTracked
@BackTracks.SideTracked 3 күн бұрын
Thanks. Must be my Aussie accent. We barely speak English properly at the best of times :)
@EElgar1857
@EElgar1857 3 күн бұрын
@@BackTracks.SideTracked I was in a bad mood; sorry!
@chavandposh
@chavandposh 5 күн бұрын
Someone still used Heathrow express?
@BackTracks.SideTracked
@BackTracks.SideTracked 4 күн бұрын
Thanks. yes I was wondering the same after watching a recent Jago Hazzard video on the topic. Doesn't seem very good value - unless in a hurry and Paddington is your final stop.
@chavandposh
@chavandposh 4 күн бұрын
@@BackTracks.SideTracked exactly. If u ve got a train to catch departing from paddington syncronised with timetable and transfer time, it seems to b useful in that way. Whereas before because of its fastness it was somehow more useful to save sometime than Tube.
@BackTracks.SideTracked
@BackTracks.SideTracked 4 күн бұрын
Agree.. My 'day job' company's office is near Bond Street.. so Heathrow Express is likely even longer trip taking into account changing to Elizabeth Line. I wonder as GWR is the part owner (got this from WIKIPEDIA so may not be correct) they don't care - as long as they are getting a piece of the Heathrow Traffic - as if they stop its all TfL on the line? Am sure there is some 'bigger discussion' going on...
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 4 күн бұрын
@@chavandposh It is difficult to think of a scenario where that would happen, and Heathrow Express would be the best option. If you are taking a long-distance service, it is probably better to take the RailAir bus to Reading and catch the train there. If you are taking a more local service, then Elizabeth Line to a point closer to your destination would be better. Paddington is a mostly residential area with a big hospital, so people who actually want to go there will be mostly local people.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce 4 күн бұрын
@@BackTracks.SideTracked As I understand it, Heathrow Airport "own" the Heathrow Express, and contract out the running of the actual services to GWR. I'm not sure if the contract gives GWR a cut of the fare income, or if it is a fixed-price contract to maintain the trains and provide the drivers. Heathrow Airport also owns the section of track between Airport Junction and Heathrow, so TfL has to pay them to run their trains over that section of track. Hence if you go to Heathrow on the Elizabeth Line, it cost a bit more than a standard Zone 6 fare.
@matpk
@matpk 4 күн бұрын
Much better than Chi Na🎉
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