Secrets Of The Trams

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Secrets Of The Trams

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Which BBC newsreader is the voice of the trams? Why is the tram network green? Why has West Croydon station got no platform 2?
We head to Croydon and the surrounding area to uncover the secrets of the tram network.

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@tulud 8 жыл бұрын

lmao i love how this guy is so enthusiastic about tram stations

@insertnamehere5660 5 жыл бұрын

The Joker Yeah but would you prefer a grumpy old man doing the videos? I know I wouldn’t, I like the videos how they are; presented by an enthusiastic animated character. It makes the videos better for me

@gabri_maybe 4 жыл бұрын

He’s Also Love Train (and canals Too)

@lakhan911 6 жыл бұрын

I have a final in 3 hours and I live in Canada... why did I just watch all of this 😂😂

@user-vk8yq8oq7p 5 жыл бұрын

lakhan911 nobody cares

@wearethefollowed 5 жыл бұрын

Lakhan911 mood

@theyoutubeguy1 5 жыл бұрын

Because its interesting

@olitesla5891 5 жыл бұрын

TheKZfaqGuy yep same here

@cosmogal.ashella1907 5 жыл бұрын

Because Geoff is awesome

@JakeWolf00 7 жыл бұрын

I just noticed that if you take the first letter of each pop-up, it spells "Tramlink". Very clever, Geoff!

@terrotorotbart8319 5 жыл бұрын

Nice spot there. As it seems, he did a similar thing with the DLR video as the pop-ups spell "Docklands".

@cryptiic2063 5 жыл бұрын

Very nicely spotted, both of you are too smart for our generation.

@mariachrzski18 4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by pop up?

@georgeadams2555 4 жыл бұрын

@@mariachrzski18 the boxes with titbits of info in them

@unionmapping4197 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! You are right!!!

@briansivley2001 7 жыл бұрын

This guy is exactly like me. I take our public transit to one end of the line just for fun to explore.

@dx_ream9277 6 жыл бұрын

briansivley2001 Me too but I do it with buses

@huubhuijbens8816 5 жыл бұрын

That's beautiful!

@huda613 4 жыл бұрын

I do that when I feel like a lifeless loser but it’s educational

@berkhofduvedec 4 жыл бұрын

Did it in London last week. Including all Tram lines.

@OnkelJajusBahn 4 жыл бұрын

I do the same in Austria.

@rickoneillable 8 жыл бұрын

This guys really geeky about London transport but it's great

@Dosedmonkey 7 жыл бұрын

Rick Oneill He's turning me in to a transport geek and I love it.

@BrajeshKumar-qp2ez 7 жыл бұрын

@sidharthnambiath3161 6 жыл бұрын

The Newcastle Central to London Kins Cross or Edinburgh Waverley journey is awesome.

@sidharthnambiath3161 6 жыл бұрын

King's Cross*

@michaelgill7484 5 жыл бұрын

^ no ones said anything about it being bad ?

@Matticitt 7 жыл бұрын

As someone living in a city with 19 tram lines I found this video extremely interesting. I knew there were trams in London but I did not know how they operated. Thanks!

@Jocko14ROBLOX 7 жыл бұрын

Mateusz Wojtkiewicz warszawa?

@Matticitt 7 жыл бұрын

Unknown Merk Łódź

@liambasye8958 6 жыл бұрын

Let me guess, Amsterdam

@mildlydispleased3221 2 жыл бұрын

There used to be loads of tram lines in London but they were all destroyed in the 1960's and replaced with roads.

@metalswifty23 2 жыл бұрын

@@liambasye8958 One look at his name and you'd know that Amsterdam was highly unlikely, but he had already said which city long before you even commented (and an age before I commented).

@mrerkleson9682 8 жыл бұрын

The disused railway from Merton Park to Tooting was also used to connect with the Tri ang toy factory, which was the largest toy factory in the world. It was also used to produce stem guns in the Second World War. Really nice video Geoff and Dan.

@bigmanted9864 Жыл бұрын

they went bankrupt on the 70s which is why the railway closed

@alibiplay1396 8 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: The newer Vario trams, built by Stadler Rail in Germany, are exactlly the same ones that run on the Bybanen in Bergen, Norway. They are technically the same.

@JazzforhireCoUk-bands-london 8 жыл бұрын

Great video ! Always wondered when growing up in Wimbledon in the 90's why they ripped up a perfectly good railway line albeit with totally shoddy services running on it, then a couple of years later, put new track down and put funky tram-style trains on it and called it a tram ! It was very weird and exciting going into Croydon one day and this train suddenly started going down the road along with the cars !!! (But I think that the vast majority of the "tram" network is just old train lines rebranded as trams.)

@egg_mittens 2 жыл бұрын

It's always cool seeing hybrid public transport

@nickinsydney 8 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thank you Geoff. I lived in Croydon in the 90s / early 2000s (it was actually alright back then) and one of the places I lived in was in shot in your video - funny to see it! I remember them building the tram stop right outside my bedroom window, including at the weekends. They laid the rails wrong, and had to take them up and re-lay them. They still didn't lie properly, and the removal/re-laying created problems with the electrical earth made between the rail and the tram car, so they had to be taken up yet again and re-bonded into position. We kept getting apologies from the Council and the engineering company for the weekend works. I ended up moving.

@what-di8yo 8 жыл бұрын

I wonder how Lebanon Road got its name, I was so surprised when I first saw this video: ''What? A tram station named after my home country?????!''

@Ealsante 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, it's actually just named after a small street near the station called Lebanon Road. I used to live around that area. No idea how the street got its name though...

@dukenukem5768 5 жыл бұрын

No mention that Mitcham is the oldest operating station in the World, having opened in 1802-3 for freight. It was originally on the horse-drawn Surrey Iron Railway, and later was on the Croydon-Wimbledon national rail line, There was double track in national rail days from Mitcham junction to 1/2 mile west of Mitcham, but cut back to Mitcham after a retaining wall subsidence. Tramlink's double track is now interlaced at that point.

@jackhoenig6982 6 жыл бұрын

Why have I been watching all of these. I live in America. Yet for some reason I keep watching.

@yezdnil 7 жыл бұрын

25 years ago, I used to live right opposite Birkbeck, and got a train from there every morning to Victoria, and returned every evening!! So, yes, I've been to Birkbeck!

@rayinnes3562 6 жыл бұрын

Yes so did I to visit my girlfriend,

@martinjcooney4537 6 жыл бұрын

I live in Norwood and love the Tram, Hoping TFL decide to devise a plan that extends the Tram to more Suburban parts of Lewisham and Bromley. Connecting with future DLR and Bakerloo Extension proposals. ' Great Video', there's a trove of old disused railways in London; it's amazing history.

@ismoleppanen 6 жыл бұрын

Managed finally to visit Tramlink and DLR in the of September. Found them both very interesting. I am from Helsinki, Finland, where trams still are the backbone of public transport in the central parts.

@limesaviation2602 6 жыл бұрын

Ismo Leppänen soumi perkele

@unniFI 6 жыл бұрын

perkel, meinasin just kommentoida saman

@ReyanAsad 3 жыл бұрын

No moi

@veganryan 8 жыл бұрын

Fun fact time.. I once got mugged at Sandilands.

@jamesdavison1786 5 жыл бұрын

ENGLISH JONA how do you know it’s on camera

@jamesdavison1786 5 жыл бұрын

ENGLISH JONA ok then

@jamesdavison1786 5 жыл бұрын

ENGLISH JONA *you’re

@BluePuffyy 4 жыл бұрын

I love using this

@alexleo172 4 жыл бұрын

Mugiland

@robertjones9691 7 жыл бұрын

Great Vid. I'm a Pom working at Yarra Trams in Melbourne. The system also has old heavy rail assets now run by the tram network.

@keithrussell9662 7 жыл бұрын

I loved the tram trip from centrale to west Croydon station yesterday and I knew about the trams in Croydon but I didn't went on the system until yesterday

@OnkelJajusBahn 8 жыл бұрын

This rich history of (unfortunately) abanndoned railways is amazing. I really love all your videos.

@oscarhogan8181 8 жыл бұрын

Birbeck used to be my local station, the feeling of just missing a train was gutting especially with only 2 tph

@danteshydratshirt2360 2 жыл бұрын

I think thats the core issue. Its fine and dandy celebrating public transport in London but the further away you get the worse it is. Its like the govt only cares about London and if you live outside London its random if you get even a half decent service. Ironically many Londoners would call Croydon out of town. Its a little weird that Geoff says at the the end of the video hes wondering how he will get back home... theres probably services running multiple times an hour even at night taking people into London centre

@fin720s Жыл бұрын

@@danteshydratshirt2360 the reason why is says he is wondering how he will get home is because he says hes gonna ride the tram one more time but the tram network only covers 4 boroughs at the bottom of London and there are 32 boroughs and with only 1 other connection on the tram network to other tfl servives with the overground and a couple to other national rail lines at a couple other stations it makes sence he doesnt know who hes gonna get home. And you say there are multipel services an hour taking you into the centre of london, the tram networks closest point to the city of london is over 8 miles, the tram network doesnt go anywhere near the centre of london so you just havent really thought about it.

@crazysharkgaming8947 8 жыл бұрын

3:16 Adele Reference.

@jeffkwan4210 8 жыл бұрын

Hello? Oh, it's me. xD

@harrytodhunter5078 6 жыл бұрын

Hardly

@smallbigdragon 5 жыл бұрын

I used to live right near birkbeck and got the tram all the time! Probably the tram station I have been at the most.

@annie482000 7 жыл бұрын

Never been on a tram myself but when I was little, I do remember going on trolleybuses with my mum and dad. Loved them!

@Luca-ur3hy 8 жыл бұрын

"Buses on rails" sounds more like the definition of Pacers.

@KasabianFan44 8 жыл бұрын

OMG I hate Pacers so much :D

@EdJonesVideos 8 жыл бұрын

Visit Wales if you want endless pacer trains, or equally horrific doppelgängers of pacer trains.

@trainmaniacstudios8216 8 жыл бұрын

For commuting they are a pain, but when you are travelling for pleasure, they are great fun

@trainmaniacstudios8216 8 жыл бұрын

Oh yes. I can totally agree with that ;D

@poznanskiszybkowiec_official 6 жыл бұрын

luca! its not called buses on rails! thats called Bus only road. simular to tracks!

@joewalker643 7 жыл бұрын

Our thoughts go out to the families of the 7 who died at the sandlilands derailment.

@kenkemzura903 6 жыл бұрын

Greetings from across the pond on the far coast! Good show and thank you for sharing. Enjoyed my brief visit to England in 2016. Rode the North Moors and Yorkshire. Hope to visit again in the foreseeable future!

@luxford60 8 жыл бұрын

Excellent, and glad you mentioned that part of the route covers part of the Surrey Iron Railway.

@smeghead7698 4 жыл бұрын

Also,parts of that old railway were a canal originally.

@CloudmasterGaming 2 жыл бұрын

0:05 He wears green when the purple tram is behind him. Me: Unlucky geoff... unlucky...

@DoktorOste 8 жыл бұрын

3:15 That transition though

@BlackGateofMordor 8 жыл бұрын

Coming from Melbourne, where the enormous tram network is integrated into the roads, these trams just look like regular train lines to me, aside from the obviously smaller carriages.

@Rrobloxedits 2 жыл бұрын

When the Elizabeth Line comes out there should be a 'Secrets of the Elizabeth Line' video!

@paulcleary1965 8 жыл бұрын

Sorry Geoff but the top speed is 80 kph. I should know as I am a tram driver.

@Londonistvids 8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Cleary thanks Paul! we've let Geoff know, and made him wear the 'Dunces' hat for the day! now for us to ask you if the ''Gauntlet' track is still there or not just west of Mitcham tram stop ... ?

@paulcleary1965 8 жыл бұрын

+Londonist Ltd Yes the interlace gauntlet is there as is the interlace in Church street.

@yegventures 8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Cleary But there's a difference between top speed and top operating speed.

@tdaranyi 8 жыл бұрын

nakladne vlaky zvolenske

@slipperysquid1267 6 жыл бұрын

Paul Cleary is a nerd this

@zubairkarmalkar26 7 жыл бұрын

I just heard about the crash in Croydon that killed five people! I'm in total shock! How could this happen in London?! It feels so surreal to have been on the network that Londoners had already passed this world while commuting.

@richardhutchinson5546 7 жыл бұрын

Sad news, now being reported that seven people have died www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37919658

@antoniorossi9553 5 жыл бұрын

Sad news indeed, but it was 7 people not 5

@jamesdavison1786 5 жыл бұрын

Zubair Kazi no disrespect to the victims, but more people die in cars in London everyday if you include the m25

@MrFantasnick 8 жыл бұрын

Aaaah, I needed my fix of knowledge and Geoff's contagious enthusiasm! Oh London, I'll visit you one day, I promise!

@LouisOnAir 8 жыл бұрын

Do you by any chance live in Montreal?

@MrFantasnick 8 жыл бұрын

+Louis Hypothetical I do indeed. You've recognized my profile pic I see! :P

@CoolAsFreya 4 жыл бұрын

Melbourne, Australia already has a rich history of streetcar trams with tracks laid in the street, but in fairly modern history two disused broad gauge (1600mm) railway lines to St Kilda and Port Melbourne were regauged to standard gauge (1435mm) and made into lightrail connected with the rest of Melbourne's trams

@MissShellah 8 жыл бұрын

Yesss, have been waiting for this! ♥

@DreamClean 8 жыл бұрын

I had no idea we even had a Tram network in London... O.o

@wclifton968gameplaystutorials 8 жыл бұрын

its not on the tube map thats why

@-siberian- 8 жыл бұрын

+QuixoticQuaver I used to visit london quite a lot, I share your feelings, I didn't even know there were trams in London

@wclifton968gameplaystutorials 8 жыл бұрын

+bjoerkBE I think it was originally run by first group which probably explains the reason for not being on the map

@mcgrindah8967 8 жыл бұрын

+wclifton968 - gameplays & tutorials well it's ok there now! :)

@wclifton968gameplaystutorials 8 жыл бұрын

MC Grindah i know but im sure some people don't have the latest map & probably don't know about the Croydon umm i mean London Trams network; who cares anyway?

@mrkipling2201 5 жыл бұрын

Watched every one of this series. Absolutely brilliant!!

@RailwayDan 6 жыл бұрын

Brilliant, as are all your "secrets of" videos. Especially enjoy where you pick out bits of previously used stations and closed lines. I enjoy railway archaeology in my spare time and really must pop up to London and have a good snoop around.

@bushyconn 8 жыл бұрын

Well, well, well! Every thing old is new - again! I am old enough to remember tramming down the old Kingsway tunnel to Aldwych o the way to work

@mercluca 7 жыл бұрын

I used to use Birckbeck national rail alot (I still do 😂)

@TheBVE 8 жыл бұрын

Have been waiting for this for so long. Thanks a million!

@365222 4 жыл бұрын

I used Birkbeck station for 7 years when I was at school in Streatham during the 60's

@user-jp2pj5tz2j 7 жыл бұрын

RIP to those lives taken.

@SRBAnimate 6 жыл бұрын

Alexa, play despacito 2

@michaelcvlogs5581 8 жыл бұрын

Line 4 now goes all the way to wimbledon

@infoprovider4844 4 жыл бұрын

I love how a video about trams in London gets 1.2 million views! The internet is beautiful!

@trainlover123trainsrock Жыл бұрын

3:13 now things like this is exactly why I love your channel and content Geoff

@benarthur3517 8 жыл бұрын

So good I watched it twice!

@Petra44YT 7 жыл бұрын

Cool, so London has trams, just like Düsseldorf :-) Now I just need to think of a reason to use them whenever I travel to London. Which in fact I should ...

@davidhcobbald3632 6 жыл бұрын

Very exciting!! I need to ride on the trams during my future visits to London!! 😁

@mihan2d 7 жыл бұрын

Well older tram systems have lots of shared tracks in the middle of the street. I'm from Moscow and our network have many kilometers of shared track, mostly closer to the city center. This does make the tram routes using them somewhat slower and less reliable but still more reliable than bus or trolleybus. We actually have all kinds of (very picturesque by the way) tram oddities like busy tracks going through courtyards between living houses, or on the edge of the small field or a big waste ground, and of course tram streets (they are actually streets but only tram can drive on them, physically) in the middle of the forest parks, lots of them and they're gorgeous!

@mattdandex 8 жыл бұрын

You could do secrets of the buses

@EM81YT 7 жыл бұрын

mattdandex the video would be an hour long XD

@dx_ream9277 6 жыл бұрын

Well, maybe even 2 hours.

@ismatara314 5 жыл бұрын

That would take an hour long like exploring secrets of bus movie? XD

@johnlawrence2757 5 жыл бұрын

I remember when Croydon had red, double-decker trams running from Purley to Brixton

@surreytrainfilms5688 8 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for uploading this! Great Video!

@wavelen9454 8 жыл бұрын

Yes! Finally secrets of the trams! I live in Finland and i'm going to London, Beckenham in the summer so i'm sure gonna check out every secret and ride a lot of trams.

@punkypink83 7 жыл бұрын

oh gosh. sandilands at 3.59... where that tram derailed a couple of days ago...

@likethelittle3yt330 7 жыл бұрын

punkypink83 aka Emily thinking that

@OIG119 8 жыл бұрын

Remember what Geoff said at the end of the Waterloo and City Line video? It works here.

@luk3c1ary 8 жыл бұрын

It also works on the dlr video

@mogulrFN 7 жыл бұрын

OLIVER Greene ik

@YT_Epic 7 жыл бұрын

OLIVER Greene What?The anagram thingy?

@kingofficial4465 6 жыл бұрын

no the trams are not tube they are trams

@gamercoolcraft4208 5 жыл бұрын

Geoff said it as a joke but idc

@ccityplanner1217 6 жыл бұрын

The red & white livery was actually that of the pre-1952 trams. I think it is better than the current one. A couple of Boris buses on the 11 have been painted in the old tram livery.

@PGATProductions 4 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised that no one has talked about how they didn’t put the abandoned Selsdon & Addiscombe railway in the eyecard

@constancelee5675 8 жыл бұрын

Been on them there good get all the way to Croydon practical

@TheAlbinoskunk 8 жыл бұрын

I've been saying for like two years that I need to get down there and go on the trams but I've still never ventured further south than Peckham...... in 19 years of living in London..

@mcgrindah8967 8 жыл бұрын

Go down to Croydon and get a tram. where do you live in London

@Schnorbs 8 жыл бұрын

Come and see Much Ado About Nothing in Wandle Park at the end of July - an excellent excuse to use the tram!

@Macen 3 жыл бұрын

i remember the red trams :( Miss those

@tylerkochman1007 9 ай бұрын

I think the Trams get more criticism than they deserve. That said: with so much of the system using contiguous dedicated rights-of-way, and so much of that being grade-separated, it really doesn’t feel like a tram-style light rail was the best system to build. And a good a portion of the right-of-way could easily have instead been used for a District Line extension.

@brandonmartin-moore5302 5 жыл бұрын

There are no subtitles for a big chunk of the video.

@literallyjase 8 жыл бұрын

London has trams?

@Londonistvids 8 жыл бұрын

+Jason Cardoz Very much! Come to Croydon!

@louisjamescarroll2173 8 жыл бұрын

+Londonist Ltd can you do the secrets of national rail

@trainmaster1253 8 жыл бұрын

+Londonist Ltd I have been on a tram from Beckham junction to west Croydon and back to Beckham junction

@robsonwilianwinchester9726 7 жыл бұрын

Jason Cardoz yeswu!!!!! ( is like yeah )

@oparasatauwaya 6 жыл бұрын

No.

@robertparry4929 3 жыл бұрын

As a Melburnian, seeing London have a tram service brought memories of home when I was there in 2019

@Michelle_Schu-blacka 7 жыл бұрын

I had absolutely no idea London had a tram service and I've spent a lot of time in some of those areas. I always thought trams would be better logistically since they can be kept sperate from traffic, can carry more passengers and are better for the environment.

@KasabianFan44 8 жыл бұрын

4:41 "Letter codes are used to identify all tram stops" But isn't that true for all the railway stations in the UK? ;)

@KasabianFan44 8 жыл бұрын

***** Oh, I didn't know that :-)

@williammakupa5896 6 жыл бұрын

I love trams

@paulhammond1705 6 жыл бұрын

I love "Electric Rail Tram's they are very good, nice, brilliant, beautiful.

@viperhalberd 8 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks for doing it! I've been looking forward to this for a while now. Pity there wasn't more about the Wimbledon side of the line, as that's where I live, but what there is is great :) Thanks Geoff!

@mikesmd94 5 ай бұрын

Geoff: “if you’ve never been on the trams before, i say why not, what is wrong with you?” Me living 1000 miles away 👁️👄👁️

@eyeballseesaws 7 жыл бұрын

Do they still have Docklands trains in London?

@XFXRyan99QPR 7 жыл бұрын

Yes

@galactic_nerd-sk4747 5 жыл бұрын

@MusicalElitist1 Nothing stupid about asking a question. Unless it's a dumb question but that isn't

@jamesdavison1786 5 жыл бұрын

everything_is_depressing_123 it really is stupid

@sodabehaslinia740 7 жыл бұрын

I used to live in Croydon but I moved to Leicester:(

@Sensist2002France Жыл бұрын

Geoff: Oh, it's me. Geoff again: Hi Geoff, where are you

@EricaGamet 4 жыл бұрын

I was wondering why I didn't know about the trams or the overground routes...I last visited the UK in '97 and now I know they're all newer than that. Your videos are making me think it's time to come back for another visit!

@ednuttah 8 жыл бұрын

Nicholas Owens I think who was actually ITV for most of his professional career rather than BBC,

@SB-gw7cc 7 жыл бұрын

ednuttah He went on the 2006 series of Strictly Come Dancing, so he's both BBC and ITV!

@tobiasvis9379 8 жыл бұрын

This tram network is so different then the one of Amsterdam

@HenrysAdventures 3 жыл бұрын

In some ways I love how London has a nice little tram system, in other I wish it served more of London!

@rail_roadgaming677 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Geoff! I will remember that.

@montyandmaryv9340 5 жыл бұрын

I live near Birkbeck

@RoulinBrooks 7 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the duplicate version of himself is the same duplicate that we see in the Circle Line video.

@gregormcintosh4525 7 жыл бұрын

bibbly bobbly #puns

@rckoubasalah8093 7 жыл бұрын

Wow times pass quick . I remember like it was today 1997 😕 guess I'm very old . brilliant vid by the way keep them coming .great chap too

@ccityplanner1217 8 жыл бұрын

The off-white & red livery was the same as the pre-1952 livery. The effect works much better with Class 455s than the class 377s. Class 455s have a spooky slow door chime & make these constant hisses & ticks.

@railrunners 5 жыл бұрын

4:26 I can see my ex's workplace. Burn it.

@sparrow3394 4 жыл бұрын

@CityWhisperer 4 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@oly.mp4 4 жыл бұрын

the fact the she used to fucking love you.

@thegrowl2210 8 жыл бұрын

Mmm, delicious knowledge...

@CityGunzals 4 жыл бұрын

6:25 What's wrong with me for not going on the Trams? I live in Melbourne which has possibly the most famous Tram Network in the world. So I don't need to travel to London to experience the awesomeness of Trams.

@CoffeeOnRails 8 жыл бұрын

Omg this is like I use this every freakin day. This is cool :D I'm surprised you didn't mention the odd ticket machine thing with the selector dial

@davidyoung5114 8 жыл бұрын

Now I'm wondering....do you consider the costs of all the traveling that you do as a business expense that can be deducted from your income tax?

@Dazzalinco1 7 жыл бұрын

Fact: Melbourne, Australia has the biggest tram network in the world

@xmsre 6 жыл бұрын

Fact: London's transport systems are the most consistent and efficient systems in the world!

@deanl4575 5 жыл бұрын

Fact: Always delayed and slow.

@megapangolin1093 6 ай бұрын

Great video, packed with history and facts. Enjoyed your enthusiastic, clear narration without too much "look at me which is getting common now". Well done. Now subscribed.

@cantbants 8 жыл бұрын

I live in North London and have never been on the trams and still I'm excited this video is out.

@SimonS44 8 жыл бұрын

0:45 captions: I think you confused London with Croydon. The system with the numbers up to 2529 was obviously a London-wide network, not just Croydon

@namzkhan5708 4 жыл бұрын

Vitc

@sjokomelk 8 жыл бұрын

Did you know that the new trams was actually built for Bybanen light rail in Bergen, Norway? But TfL was able to get Bybanens trams, and Bybanen took the ones for TfL that wasn't built yet.

@sjokomelk 8 жыл бұрын

Three of them were ment for Bergen - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variobahn#Variobahn_trams_for_Croydon_Tramlink

@antlucl2599 7 жыл бұрын

sjokomelk Actually, they are also going to be used in Denmark, in a town called Aarhus. (Starting services in May 2017)

@sjokomelk 7 жыл бұрын

The Transport World Yes. The VarioTram/VarioBahn has been in production for over 20 years. But some of the trams were actually built for Bybanen in their orange and black livery, then repainted in green and blue and shipped to London.