Long Range FPV Flight

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Mac Aw

Mac Aw

10 жыл бұрын

4 FPV Monitors compared. Once again...sunny and windy in Singapore

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@Ericdamwhite
@Ericdamwhite 10 жыл бұрын
How did you get your iosd to show the battery percentage %? The furthest I've flown is 1400 meters with the stock setup, fpv fatsharks Imurance 600.
@coreyperez13
@coreyperez13 10 жыл бұрын
Mac Aw, Was there a specific version you purchased? I've started looking around and seen numerous different "camera" versions listed and significant price differences between them. Thanks, Corey
@drone-paulista
@drone-paulista 10 жыл бұрын
Good evening friends, how long the flight Phantom2 makes the fpv and gimbal?
@KFmotorsport
@KFmotorsport 8 жыл бұрын
Hello @ D701 how did you set with the small dip switch (frequency) on the transmitter and on the screen? Do I need in the Go pro also set what it works?
@RobertR2007
@RobertR2007 9 жыл бұрын
I guess you used 2.4G transmitter to control the quadrocopter, but could you please tell me how you manage to move the camera in this setup? I'm searching for a long range configuration for a phantom 2, the vision+ they offer cant be set up with a high power 5.8G transmitter so I must buy parts seperately, but then I'm confused on how to move the camera as only a 5.8G downlink exists and the 2.4G (as far as I understood) is only to move the quadrocopter, not the camera. thanks a lot!
@ToumalRakesh
@ToumalRakesh 10 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but your test has a few issues: 1) You seem to be mixing linear and circular polarized antenna. You have to use the same type as on the TX side. 2) You use the same antenna orientation for both paths for each monitor. Also not a good thing, especially with the two monopoles on the boscam. Do a 90-degree angle, and also angle the cloverleaf antenna so you always have one of the two at a good angle for optimum sensitivity. 3) Also if you want to compare the receivers you should use the same antenna on each of them. Then perhaps do a separate comparison for the cloverleafs if need be. As it is now this setup is inconsistent and, considering you're mixing fundamentally different antenna types, not helpful in receiver comparison.
@ToumalRakesh
@ToumalRakesh 10 жыл бұрын
Also please don't take this as discouragement, but as a suggestion for improvement. PLEASE redo the test, with the points outlined above in mind, that would be really helpful for anyone who is looking for a FPV monitor!
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
Hi, many thanks for your comment. You are right abt not mixing the antennas. Quite honestly, this compare wasn't meant to be published. It was my own objective to try out different permutations cos of a project onhand. I've already been trying out different setup this vid trying different setups (swapping ant). The goal is to get the best FPV setup for myself. You will notice that everything is really quite stock i) The DJI AVL58 comes with DJI stock clover. ii) The D701 comes and tested with its stock rubber duckies iii) The boscam comes and tested with its stock with rubber duckies. iv) The only exception was BlackPearl...quite honestly when I used it with the stock rubber duckies in my earlier tries...It loses connections at abt 20m. I swap it with clover in my final test.
@pepitoaus
@pepitoaus 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Rui, what transmitter you used on your phantom? is it the DJI AVL58? How far can you go? I just purchased the 701 but now I'm quite worried it won't work with the immersionRC 600mW tx :( does the 701 works well with DJI AVL58 Tx? Btw the Ikan has no integrated receiver? thanks! :) I wish you could make a detailled video of your equip ;)
@09ironman1
@09ironman1 10 жыл бұрын
for a beginner, how would I get set up with a video screen to watch my unit when I can not see it on the ground, so I know it is pointing in the right direction where I want the pic being took. thanks
@peterpressure
@peterpressure 10 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@Vemitachannel
@Vemitachannel 8 жыл бұрын
which type of antenna preferred to use with bascom 832 ?? (rhcp ,lhcp) any link please
@TheMegajupiter09
@TheMegajupiter09 10 жыл бұрын
Man you need FPV ear muffs for that noise..lol! Now which brand won the rage test?
@ankushtikroi
@ankushtikroi 9 жыл бұрын
DO YOU HAVE THIS PRODUCT ?CAN YOU TELL ME SPECIFICATION ?
@BuskingTV
@BuskingTV 9 жыл бұрын
D701? I would like to know the exact model name
@8dcphoto
@8dcphoto 10 жыл бұрын
I get approx 1 km using immersion 600mw with clover leaf tx on the Phantom 2 and clover leaf rx plus rubber duck on the Black Pearl.
@julianfierro5606
@julianfierro5606 9 жыл бұрын
Hey mate can you post a build list including the radio you use? Cheers!
@jdiez6830
@jdiez6830 9 жыл бұрын
A better description of what systems are you using, will help people to not get confused.
@eagleye271967
@eagleye271967 10 жыл бұрын
It seems the D701 is much better in receiving the signals. On the other two monitors you don't see much after 400m. Is the difference really that great? I cannot believe this huge difference.
@markgiles8527
@markgiles8527 7 жыл бұрын
Why are the Distance and Height Icons flashing?
@bmazz007
@bmazz007 9 жыл бұрын
Hello Nice vid! who makes the D701
@benirodriguez9516
@benirodriguez9516 9 жыл бұрын
it seems its a chinese unbranded fpv monitor ;)
@virajde8149
@virajde8149 9 жыл бұрын
hello mr mac av may i know which drone ur flying and what is the flying time on its?
@osullivanstudios
@osullivanstudios 9 жыл бұрын
Your using a Circular Polarized antenna on the drone (I am assuming because thats whats on your FPV setup) and linear antennas on the three monitors, of course this test isn't going to work right.
@euantaylor8022
@euantaylor8022 10 жыл бұрын
what 2.4GHz radio are u useing, im planing on doing some long range FPV and can find long range video transmitters but no controllers
@yellowbluerc5047
@yellowbluerc5047 10 жыл бұрын
i recommand for cheap but effective use a 9x or 9xr with dragon link got the samething 9x flashed with a mod and dragon link an easly hit 24,56 miles but then my video stopped soo.... its great off course you can change the radio to whatever one you prefer and i would not recommand 2.4ghz for long range his radio looks like a futaba 8fg super
@TheWillz02
@TheWillz02 9 жыл бұрын
what osd is this?
@kidagocreative
@kidagocreative 10 жыл бұрын
Does the Ikan display the blue screen when the signal is lost? I can't get an answer anywhere for that! Thanks
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
Yes....it displays a blue screen. However, allow me to clarify....it will only display the blue screen only when extreme maximum distant is reach. If you want no blue screen you need to choose an FPV monitor. To me it makes no difference, cos in my test...the screen of the FPV monitor will go sudden black out too!!!!. I like the Ikan as it is a colour reference monitor...plus it has a really good high contrast screen. Watch the vid again...you will see the sudden blackout of the fpv screen.
@PILOTGABUS
@PILOTGABUS 6 жыл бұрын
I like it
@jackhammell1926
@jackhammell1926 5 жыл бұрын
Could you please do another video with 5 monitors all with mismatched antennas? Thanx
@kidagocreative
@kidagocreative 10 жыл бұрын
What set up is the monitor on your controller. That seems the best
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
It's the Ikan VK7i with IPS screen. very bright, very high contrast and you don't need a hood. I'm using the DJI AVL58 rx with it.
@svadobnevideo
@svadobnevideo 9 жыл бұрын
D701 the exact model name and where to buy ?
@AlvinYeoh
@AlvinYeoh 10 жыл бұрын
Is the DJI AVL58 receiver compatible with the RCLogger transmitter? The RClogger Receiver is really short range...like 100m short..
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
No, they are not compatible. RClogger's running on Band B whereas AVL58's running on Band E. You need a 32 channel video RX to read the RClogger Vid TX
@FPVPortugalTV
@FPVPortugalTV 10 жыл бұрын
Wow great video, very surprising to see the black pearl didnt get any image at leat at 1000m, i have flyed at 700m with nice image, maybe the antennas are not the better, DJI ALV58 System works great. :D Thanks for this review.
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
I'm using the ikan monitor VK7i ips monitor with an external DJI video tx. The ikan is extremely bright with the in plane switching screen. Can see without a hood in very bright daylight.
@eagleye271967
@eagleye271967 10 жыл бұрын
But is the D701 also connected to the external DJI video tx/rx? Or is it using its internal antennas? Because it seems the D701 is not much worser than the VK7i an much better then the other two monitors.
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
eagleye271967 The D701 is using it's internal rx and it's stock antennas. The prowess of the Ikan is it's screen...very very bright and contrasty, something most FPV monitors can't beat. I will do a compare video soon
@tatupebadalagoa
@tatupebadalagoa 8 жыл бұрын
+Mac Aw your receiver used with ikan is very good, very sensitive!!! you mean ikan + DJI video Rx? what your rx exactly ikan? and what your video tx? 1000mw, 500mw 200mw, dji? Thankyou very much...thankyou!!!!
@ThomasKim558
@ThomasKim558 9 жыл бұрын
Singapore!! I'm also a phantom user and living in Dover Road :D
@kcg795
@kcg795 9 жыл бұрын
My Boscam monitor still had a clear picture at 345 meters when I flew the other day with stock antennas. Maybe the stick antennas don't do well with whatever antenna you might be running on your transmitter. I'm running the ImmersionRC 600mw transmitter on my Phantom. Yeah, I hope people don't take this comparison the wrong way with the Boscam monitor. For the price, it really is a great monitor.
@jesus_wasgay
@jesus_wasgay 8 жыл бұрын
You can't expect a LP antenna to perform well when the signal is CP.
@ozon8r
@ozon8r 10 жыл бұрын
It looks like the Ikan monitor is the clear winner in this test. However, I cannot tell if there is a separate receiver providing input to that monitor. Can you confirm whether the Ikan monitor has a built in receiver or if you are using a separate receiver? Thank you
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
The Ikan does not have a built in rx...I'm using the DJI AVL58 with it.
@per79
@per79 10 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. Phantom 1?
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
Its a Phantom 2 with H32D gimbal
@Thunderbyrd.
@Thunderbyrd. 7 жыл бұрын
No one likes to watch the video's and comments to see so many experts giving their criticism, talking about what they would have done and what the person in the video should have done. I suppose it makes them feel better about themselves by talking about how smart their were and how much better they can do themselves.
@Soldier53flyer
@Soldier53flyer 10 жыл бұрын
That was a good test,
@MrLeejisang
@MrLeejisang 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Mac Aw I AVL58 Tx, Rx, and clover antenna is used, the use Roy can not exceed a height of over 500m 10m what's wrong with it?
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
Disable height limit from DJI software assistant
@Ericdamwhite
@Ericdamwhite 10 жыл бұрын
What kind of setup are you running?
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
you mean the FPV setup?
@Ericdamwhite
@Ericdamwhite 10 жыл бұрын
Yes your fpv setup.
@waqarpac1
@waqarpac1 9 жыл бұрын
Antennas? Herro?
@353flyer
@353flyer 8 жыл бұрын
hmm some on stock antennas some on mushroom clover leaf.. how is that a fair test
@thorjourdan
@thorjourdan 10 жыл бұрын
How did you put percentage on the osd? Is this an update?
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
The % should be there. 1) Update your iosd 2) Ity could be hiding at a corner becos of the aspect ratio you set on the monitor. Click left and right adjust in the IOSD assistant software.
@FrameOneVP
@FrameOneVP 8 жыл бұрын
only phantom 2 percentage becase intelligent batery and fly control tecnology.
@GabeDavid
@GabeDavid 10 жыл бұрын
one more thing :) Im almost bought a black pearl couse they said this is great. I was asked them: the battery and charger included? they said NO. commoooon! 300 euros, plus battery ( big ugly) plus charger???? its around 400+ euros. for this price I can buy a laptop.... so, THANK YOU FOR YOUR VIDEO was veeery useful!!
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Rui...I was hoping either the BP or Boscam holds up good (like the integrated 5.8ghz and built in batts cos no messy wires). Looks like I have to stay with an external RX.
@marbleshark6
@marbleshark6 10 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with the Boscam, I have the same and with a 500mw TX I'm getting 10km+
@timhiggins2445
@timhiggins2445 10 жыл бұрын
marbleshark you mean 1 km?
@WREPIC
@WREPIC 9 жыл бұрын
My black pearl fpv monitor goes so much further. I wonder why?
@hollyandoso
@hollyandoso 10 жыл бұрын
Why aren't you testing with the same antenna type? Rigged...
@rerewergergerg5824
@rerewergergerg5824 8 жыл бұрын
nice
@Hofstader007
@Hofstader007 9 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should test all recivers with a cloverleaf not just two of them
@alasdair4161
@alasdair4161 9 жыл бұрын
Remember, the tx is probably circular polarised, so the vertical whips will reject that signal quite well, also, some of those monitors may generate spurious noise which can affect others too close by, and he may also be one channel off too, and i have found some cheapo CP antenna's like Aomways to be as effective as the centre pin of a sma plug. So, put the same fatsharks on all, or one antenna distributor to feed each receiver to make it half believable. I regularly fly beyond 3km with boscam & 400mw using fatsharks, so this video looks a little skewed. Also, the CP's on the black pearl may be RHCP with the tx LHCP.. You must also be able to confirm that the connectors are right, like RP SMA in a SMA socket will give exactly that result too, so.. Who knows.
@jbx907
@jbx907 9 жыл бұрын
which one of the monitor had better range? what brand?
@marcusthian1230
@marcusthian1230 9 жыл бұрын
***** monitor brands does not increase your range.
@jbx907
@jbx907 8 жыл бұрын
yeah it wouldn't. dont use the the built in reciever, they're all the same, but those have recievers, so they vary, IQ man
@gasparzinhorb
@gasparzinhorb 9 жыл бұрын
I liked the setting, could send me the file .OSD , firmware , charset. please
@NicLewis
@NicLewis 9 жыл бұрын
Just got my PB this morning using the Boscam with 5.8GHz Parsitic Disk Helix, 1K. Still had a clear video image but ran out of balls.
@TobiasSchorr
@TobiasSchorr 8 жыл бұрын
What will you guys do if you loose signal or there is a suddenly breakdown of the battery and the copter crashes from a altitude of 140 m on somebody or into traffic????? This is NOT fun anymore!
@Butters69Channel
@Butters69Channel 8 жыл бұрын
+Tobias Schorr What will you do when your brake line bursts, and you are hurtling toward a red light where there is a motorcyclist stopped, and you don't grab the E-brake in time? (or maybe you drove with it on too long so it's not there) My point is that you can't band-aid the world. Most quads can be set up to return home upon TX dropout, and it's the pilot's responsibility to avoid flying over populated areas.
@sonnyphan75
@sonnyphan75 9 жыл бұрын
i have the boscam and a black pearl, with the right antenna you can get 2k+ on both. so it all boils down to what antenna you use. I tested with the ImmersionRc flat panel also ibcrazy helical antenna, both are pretty good for long range. my only issue is the RC transmitter goes in FS after 2k but still has a clear picture. I just added an antenna booster for my transmitter and will test it out this sunday. I'll post some videos.
@alexmattes2065
@alexmattes2065 9 жыл бұрын
what antennas do you have for your black pearl.
@sonnyphan75
@sonnyphan75 9 жыл бұрын
ibcrazy 10 turn helical black cannon bluebeam ulta immersionrc panel
@sonnyphan75
@sonnyphan75 9 жыл бұрын
tested with the booster it went 2.5k without losing fpv. next test will be adding tplink 9dbi panel antenna for the RC
@alexmattes2065
@alexmattes2065 9 жыл бұрын
what is a booster? sorry I'm a noob
@alasdair4161
@alasdair4161 9 жыл бұрын
Sonny Phan Another good trick is to stick your booster and antenna on a tall pole, buy a quality 3mtr sma extension lead, and with 2 watts you will get 30km with a frsky l9r, or 15km with a telemetry x8r, just using a 5db whip with 3metre elevation in clear LOS space. Forget holding your TX at ground level, trying to keep it straight, not tipping the antenna, its too risky when your way out. Mine returns constant 99% rssi at 5km, i just need more flight time to venture further. You can also sling a separate battery to run the wifi booster independently too. Using the lead before the booster, back to your radio overcomes the loss issue, as the booster improves RX gain as well as TX, which being buffered, minimises cable losses in that config. Don't just extend the antenna and leave your booster on the TX.
@Ericdamwhite
@Ericdamwhite 10 жыл бұрын
What kind of drone are you flying?
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
The fpv footage that you see in this vid is from the Phantom2. I have installed the avl 58 on both my phantom 2 and tarot so they share the same FPV freq setup.
@Ericdamwhite
@Ericdamwhite 10 жыл бұрын
Oh ok how much flight time are you getting?
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
Also to note....if you are taking off from a moving vessel (watch my other video on the 300m long LNG vessel)...you need a more robust flight controller like to WKM. Its tricky taking off from a rocking supply ship using the Phantom 2
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
Eric White Wow that was fast...I thought we are in different time zone. I'm getting bat 25min flight time on the Phantom....and bat 9 min flight on the tarot running 3S 8300mah lipos. For most of my work the Phantom does a fantastic job. But to take aerial vid out in the open sea, look into a bigger craft.
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
A Phantom 2 with DJI H32D
@juliussalovaara9787
@juliussalovaara9787 6 жыл бұрын
My system/setup wont go further than 4 meters for some reason XD
@johnclarke7938
@johnclarke7938 10 жыл бұрын
Didn't seem to be a very fair comparison as the Boscam had the std whips meaning they are verticaly polorised and yet you have the other video screen with what looks like a ScewPlaner and a cloverleaf and I believe that your running a rotational polorised antenna on the TX from the multicopter which dosen't work with a verticaly polorised antenna like the whips!.This is born out when the copter is coming back and is only 50 meters out yet the only video feed thats working is the one on the left (your base station rig) which is running a independant RX with a circular polorised antenna with the white plastic capping so the review is Null! Put some matching antennas on all of them and compare with each other but leave out your base station video as that has an unfair gain over the onboard video even with diversity.Can be a very good comparison if these changes are implemented. Fly Safe Fly Hard Fly Heaps jcinAuz
@philliprporter
@philliprporter 10 жыл бұрын
not a fair test the boscam has whip antennas on it, they are good for maybe 50 meters, retry test with same antennas, this was a waste of time.
@GreyhatInfiltrator
@GreyhatInfiltrator 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice, by the way, I knew it was an Asian behind the controls. Just make sure you don't crash it, buddy.
@zerkalka
@zerkalka 9 жыл бұрын
I think its a mistake in naming. Its not "D701", I think its "DV701" For example search link: www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20150527042324&SearchText=dv701 Looks EXACTLY like in this video.
@EstebanTorres530
@EstebanTorres530 10 жыл бұрын
Where Can I Buy the D701 or can somebody tell me who makes it?
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
checkout foxtechfpv...I believe the D701 is being replaced by D702. Minor changes. Better monitor shades
@EstebanTorres530
@EstebanTorres530 10 жыл бұрын
Mac Aw Awesome thanks for the fast reply! thats the website I was looking at but didn't see D701 mentioned anywhere. Wasn't sure if it was the same brand or not. Do you know if works well with ImmersionRC 5.8GHz 600mW Tx?
@kwaw310400
@kwaw310400 10 жыл бұрын
Esteban Torres The D702 should have the integrated 5.8GHz RX. It will run with the IRC TX...all you need to do is to set the correct band and freq on the monitor
@hippopotamus86
@hippopotamus86 9 жыл бұрын
Would have been better to be using the same antennas on all screens. Linear antennas shouldn't be sold with kits, let alone used.
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines 10 жыл бұрын
The Dipole anttenna on your Futaba TX is being compromised by the metal frame carrying your flashy ultrabright Monitor!!!!! A solution to this is simple...throw away that Dipole antenna on your TX and replace it with a 2.4GHz Patch or Helical antenna....Your control range will double at least since they are directional...You guys only fly out and back in a straight line anyway....LOL...Its not like you will fly outside the beam...You guys make me feel so clever, truth is, Its not me who is so bright....Elephant is in the room, can you see it?
@danie2008lgui
@danie2008lgui 10 жыл бұрын
Hi,Mac Aw i think you are not on the good channel is not possible to loose the video at 20 m... i have one black pearl spironet and one original antenna on the Video RX Black Pearl and the same spironet antenna on the Video TX with the futaba 14 SG and i can confirm i lost the RC before the video and it comute on FS RTH but the video Signal link is ok all the time. the max distance with futaba14 SG is around 1.5km at 200 meter high.
@theuberduck01
@theuberduck01 9 жыл бұрын
>Circularly polarized Tx >Uses linearly polarized antennas on Boscam >Boscam must be shit >wot m8
@aryowiediarko2505
@aryowiediarko2505 8 жыл бұрын
20m on boscam & black pearl....? something going wrong there.... fair test....who knows..... :D
@Butters69Channel
@Butters69Channel 8 жыл бұрын
+aryo wiediarko The test doesn't claim to be scientific, but you can see clearly for yourself that each setup has a different antenna pair. There's too many variables for this to be a valid experiment.
@anthonyserio3828
@anthonyserio3828 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah... This video is not helpful lol
@Krampus5150
@Krampus5150 10 жыл бұрын
your using the shittiest antenna except for one of the ones on the pearl...and the one on your controller...dunno.... i get 5 miles with the pearl and a 5 turn helical... laters...
@TeamIcarusRC
@TeamIcarusRC 10 жыл бұрын
That isn't long range...
@MuahMan
@MuahMan 10 жыл бұрын
This is depressing, i get better range on my FC40 and iPhone. Sucks, I just ordered the Black Pearl today.
@philliprporter
@philliprporter 10 жыл бұрын
not to worry, the test was no good, the black perl will have lots of range, its all it the antennas
@AirFlights
@AirFlights 9 жыл бұрын
1.2 Ghz will be better.
@GabeDavid
@GabeDavid 10 жыл бұрын
PLEASE! Someone tell me how can I connect my Android device or ipad or ipod, iphone etc to a receiver??? Or realy need to buy some shitty old designed, bad resolution, huge, heavy ugly monitor, plus a battery which is big like 2 potatos, and a lot of wires around. Seriously. HALOOOOO it's 2014 not 2004! PLUS a brilliant android Galaxy tab 3 its 150 euro, and you can watch hours in HD quality. Or a ipad for example etc. PLEASE someone tell me how to connect Im realy appreciated! THANK YOU! ps: Im not that stup.d to buy a dji wifi for 1350 euros, or buy a controller with some small shitty monitor for 3000 euros. seriously. common.
@user-bu1qv6vo6s
@user-bu1qv6vo6s 9 жыл бұрын
1) it would cost more to connect to ur phone than to just buy a monitor 2) the low resolution you see isn't from the monitor, it's from the transmitter.
@user-bu1qv6vo6s
@user-bu1qv6vo6s 9 жыл бұрын
Also, there are monitors like the boscam that have integrated batteries and rx.
@Ryuuken24
@Ryuuken24 9 жыл бұрын
Your setup kinda sucks. You're not using a helical antenna, you mad, bro? A diversity receiver would the best solution for flying near residential areas, thanks to Wifi pollution and possible cell towers.
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