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this guy goes straight to the point instead of rambling for 5 minutes, i like it

you forgot 1 thing..the outpost has no malus effect on the rogue since he collect trophy not items you can also place those adjacent to the starting node to gain 2 guards to soak the boss damage

I used this build with fantastic success. I made it to monster level 25 and filled the whole board before i decides to cash out. This was on tier 3 map. There were a few things i had different though. 1. I put an oblivion card in the deck to zap the splinter fucks that spawn from the thickets. I noticed they really become problems to deal with in the later levels and kept being my killer. 2. Added temporal towers. I added this mostly just to farm for the Astral orbs. I do highly suggest not dropping these down until you are already slaying thing quickly as if you drop them too early you might not be doing enough dmg to kill them in time and they would just be buffing shit that would cause more headache and in most cases kill you. 3. I used Outposts on both sides of the campfire to have the extra bodies to hell distract the boss. I found that it looks like the guards dont take the boss loot. Also you can place these anywhere on the map if you want as a rogue since you dont get raw item drops ;). 4. I try to aim for the skilled architect trait early as it allows insane snowballing. The 8x loop experience per building added to the map is insane. You level so damn fast and just stack up the traits. That is about all I can think of as far as my modifications but if i find something i missed i will add it. Hopefully this helps!

About to binge your Loop Hero playlist. Thanks for the vids. This game is awesome!

Thanks for this man, I'm new to the game and didn't have the River card unlocked. Followed this strat without the river card and still Killed act 2 boss and got all of the orbs I needed!

My brother said he just can't keep HP on the rogue but I sent him this guide and I know it is going to help. Again, I have to say that Alex is awesome and is a great content creator.

So couple things I’ve found: the river multiplication actually stacks. Not sure if that’s a bug or not. But what I mean is that a thicket with one river is 4% but with 2 it’s 8% and 3 is 16%. Not sure if this creates better layout potential for rivers. I haven’t gone super nerd with this game and done math yet. Another thing is, because of the stamina bar, attack speed does start to lose value over time. That’s actually a hidden benefit of the oasis since it disproportionately affects enemies while also reducing the amount you lose stamina. Buuuut a final thing to consider is actually reaching a certain attack speed value and then going all in using Storm Temples and forests (not thickets because they actually have the same effect once burned) to stack magic damage. Ordinarily, magic damage isn’t super impactful, but it’s a way to scale your damage that doesn’t cause you to lose stamina at a faster rate. Still gonna have to do my nerd math to see if dunes and oasis is better than magic damage at certain attack speed values. This game is surprisingly complicated for an auto battler.

Amazing guide! Thank you!

Ty for the video! Just finished 3rd boss with this build.

I honestly prefer using exclusively thickets, and no dunes. The difference seems to be that my +attack speed can reach well over 250%, easily killing enemies. That's also with using bookeries to quickly swap cards to get more spider cocoons, rivers and thickets. Lastly, I like to use villages, and there is a nice trick where, even though a bandit camp will spawn every-other time you place a village, if you occupy both sides of the path tile where you're going to place the village, for example with a spider cocoon and a bookery, no bandit camp will spawn, removing the need to add obliterates. On the other hand, keeping obliterates in the deck allows destroying the "village?" tiles which occur with every 10 thickets. Obliterates appear much less frequently than the other cards, so I've never had an issue with getting too many of them.

Very well done and useful video:)

The river doubling seems to stack, so I think your river gap should be 1 tile tighter as I believe the maths works out that you can actually get more value out of it.

The Flesh Golem is a big problem in this setup, especially on later acts, because it doesn't die until it does its attack, gains crit chance when it gets hit, and has thorns for when you hit it. Honestly, with the amount of damage that thing does, it might not be worth it to use the Blood Grove.

On rogue I prefer to go more crit focused with about 50-75% atk speed as your stamina gets drained fast above 100% especially if you have a good bit of evasion and counter

Two corrections: 1 - the Rogue cannot get more vampirism, it's not available on any of their equipment. You get 5% vampirism at the start and that's all you'll ever have. 2 - you slowing down is not a debuff. That's you running out of Stamina, the small blue bar underneath your health and attack bars. When you use all your stamina, your attack speed and Evasion chance both drop by 50% until your stamina fully regens

Need the arsenal card!!! Thank you for the video, really good! Do you know if one day we can unlock the two broken item slot?

Thanks for this guide. Could u make a general warrior guide? I struggled at stage 2.

Does this strategy still apply with the tiles update?

what about burned forest? (forest+storm temple) you can do temple in the corner and add forestes. i think that additional magic damage will help you with armored units, however its will come by sacrifice of AS and faster boss. also, because of high AS you stamina depleting at cosmic rate, and when it fully depleted you loose i big chunk of your AS and dodge

One thing I notice about videos that talk about attack speed that gets missed. Characters have stamina, you can attack so fast that you apply to yourself a tired debuff, which is why in vanilla legitimate playthroughs you want to hit certain caps and then focus on other stats to scale through each loop. This is less so a problem for necromancer because summoning does NOT cost stamina.

These videos are great thanks! Also, are villages not worth it?

Zig-zagging the river rather than making long straight lines can help you make the most out of your thickets. After running some simulations, I can get over +400% attack speed from thickets alone just by being clever with the river, maximizing the number of thickets that have 2+ adjacent rivers. One run I had over +750% attack speed.

to get more vampirsim as rouge you want to use multiple count chairs each one adds a percent so 5 chairs would bring you to 10% total. Also if you have a tighter u the river will buff again the same tile especially the tiles at the bend getting buffed by 3 river tiles

When I place a thicket next to a sand dune, it turns into a maquis. How come this doesn't happen to your thickets in the video?

I actually have a much easier boss fight if I used rock instead of sand dunes. I rather had more HP than bother lowering the attack speed of mobs. You might wanna check that out buddy. Great videos so far!

Hey man, excellent video. I noticed that you didn't include any supply suggestions for your rogue or necro guides, do you have any recommendations?

I actually killed the second boss my first necro run. Just unlocked him. I didn't even use any tricks, just got a lot of attack speed (no river) and 5 summons lvl 5, 30% quality. I also had 4 snakes attacking from the 2 row, because I had ruins right next to the camp))

ty for the video! Has there been an update since this guide was released? Putting thickets next to dunes creates maquis now.

Forests, deserts, village, wheat field, chrono crystal, spiders, vampires. No need to be too picky, just spam everything. Fill the world with spiders and vampires for good measure. You can use other road tiles, but villages are free sustain and extra rolls for decent gear early on and much of the road is filled with spiders anyway. Outposts are helpful too, lets you place more mobs on the map more greedily since the start. You'll be looking at 100+ trophies per round by loop 10-15 depending on how quick you get the ball rolling and by that point you'll be getting a full inventory of overleveled orange gear every loop to choose from. It doesn't take much to absolutely faceroll chapter 2 on rogue.

Thanks a lot for your loop hero tips, they helped me a lot! I tried this build in chapter 3, it worked awesomely, the only problem was that it took forever to fill the bossmeter, because I tried to not build deserts and forests. So eventually I built just everything to fill the meter and the boss was soooo easy. One question: Why doesn't the dune transform the thicket? for me this does a transform

Hi, I don’t know if is being asked before, but when I put a dune next to a thickest is become a maquis, why is it not happening to you?

subbed keep it up

is there a reason to take grove when u can also place blood grove next to forest land card?

you dont need a grove for the blood grove you just need to place a thicket or forest near where you want the blood grove to go

Skeletons tend to drop good "loot" yeah but that loot is better stats on items. Which you don't get since you collect trophies. Trophies are all equal, just the amount matters as Rogue. You don't need Oblivion to make a Hungry Grove, at least currently. You just gotta place a Hungry Grove next to a Hungry Grove with no Grove, Forest or Thicket next to it. Nex to that, you don't need Grove to place Hungry Grove. Forests and Thickets work just as well. An Oasis does not double the effect of adjecent Lanscape. It just does the negative attack speed debuff. You didn't say that but it wasn't clear. Also, ever since the Update, Forst or Thickets near Deserts or Sand Dunes turn into Maquis, which have a different effect.

Why are you putting the sand dunes opposite of each other? Do you need 2 of them for an oasis? Otherwise you could use 1 per river and double your oasises?

how can u get vampirism with rogue,i never drop any item that have it

Doesnt the river lose its double effect when it becomes an oasis?

how do you get the smith's forge?

Does the boss reward keeps forever or just for the run?

Might be good that you mention on what expeditions these strategies are good for.. different expeditions are going to need different approach.. also spider are not as easy in the 4th expedition as they are in the 1-2 or even third expedition, there they are pretty much fodder but 4th they get really nasty poison abilities and they hit fast and they are EVRYWHERE since the spawn 1 every day.

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Blood grove is kinda bad for rogue. Because of the blood gollem that quite strong but because of how rogue did get the items it's less worth it. Also more dangerous because of it's ability. Those gollems are good if you ask for equipment. For the forge. Not that worth it, the living armor could give a good loot but again it's kinda useless because of how rogue get items. And also rogue kinda struggling with "payment" for the equipment. But I agree it's buff are useful for rogue.

I love your builds and guides, but every one of them depends mostly on river-utility_card combo. Maybe let's create something for beginners, like - "I've just got a gymnasium and gathering all of the resources for the river is going to be long process but I still wanna be quite stron with my deck and strategy".

How are you surviving without the village cards tho?

Yeah...I just unlocked the rogue and suck with it, come here to take a look and this guy has like 3x as many cards as I do.

It's... problematic that you're on loop 15 when priestess is spawned.

Why you dont put more Beacons?

Smith's Forge really sucks on the rogue. You get +20% defense. Since defense on the rogue normally hovers in the 2-5 range, you get at most 1 temporary defense point at the price of a ton of resources (and at the price of a better card in Smith Forge's place).

Rogues dont get vampirism from items.

The BEST rogue build BARELY wins?

This guides are outdated. The game doesn't work like this anymore. For those like me who are new playing the game cause epic had it for free. The desert tiles will turn the forest into something else with a bad debuff that counter this strategy. Making the the opponent faster and weaker. So this build doesn't work as intended. Need to tweak it a lot .