I kinda wish you *did* do this one later so you could've talked about *Skull Island*

I like the relationship between Kong and Ann in the 05 version. The ending is heart wrenching because of how invested these two are in each other.

I unironically love the 2005 Peej version. Maybe it's just because it's set in the depression era instead of trying to modernize the story, but if I'm being honest I think it's because the thing is so damn beautifully flawed. It is totally unashamed to be what it is: a pure, sprawling, overwrought Hollywood epic. Honesty and purity of purpose can make up for a LOT of sins.

I think you should do a Loose Canon for Peter Pan.

In 2011, I made a cut of the 2005 Kong film which was just the Kong scenes as a Christmas gift for a friend. He was a huge fan of Andy Serkus and had talked about wanting a cut that was only the scenes with his motion capture. I taught myself how to edit movies to do this. I may have had a bit of a crush. A lot of a crush. ...You know you really like someone when you spend hours learning how to put together a custom monkey movie based off what was probably a passing whim.

I like how she takes our knowledge of Dungeons and Dragons terms completely for granted

Is that a monument to man's hubris in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

Please do Godzilla especially how America view him differently than Japan.

Hot take: The video game adaptation of Peter Jacksons King Kong is straight up a great game and maybe the best version of king kong

The 2005 version is one of my fave films, it's goofy but dark, funny but tragic, anatomically accurate but zoologically ridiculous! As a student of palaeontology, WETAs work gives me chills, and still looks amazing. As for the whole natives thing, you find out in the art book that they once inhabited the interior of the island, hence why Kong lives within a temple. They were on par with the Aztecs, however the geological instability of the island messed with their great wall and pushed the wildlife into their city, forcing them to live on the peninsula that housed their mausoleums. Generations of inbreeding basically drove them all mad... or something like that, it would have been nice for the movie to mention this.

The "Let them fight." bit killed me. It's true. Human nature is to watch cool shit happen.

With Kong: Skull Island just released, you think we could get a short little peek of that movie compared to the others?

I love the Jackson King Kong. I wasn't even aware that the runtime is that long. My eyes are always glued to the screen the whole time and it's over in a flash.

One correction I'd like to offer, and I sincerely hope you don't mind, is that the Godzilla series wasn't actually going strong by the time of King Kong vs Godzilla. There hadn't been a proper Godzilla movie since 1955 and the series had in many respects been put to pasture. In fact, it was King Kong vs Godzilla that really revitalized Godzilla and laid the groundwork for the franchise to become more family-friendly and driven by spectacular monster fights. The film wasn't even originally planed to feature Godzilla, it began as King Kong vs Frankenstein if you can believe it. Anyway, great video and I'm looking forward to watching the other recently re-uploaded Loose Canons.

If you ever do Godzilla, make sure to look closely the Japanese version of the original. The subtext about nuclear weapons is really well done.

I really wish this had come out after the most recent movie. It's a very different take on the character. And no symbols of man's hubris are climbed!

Have to note that the scriptwriter for King Kong '76 was Lorenzo Semple, Jr., head writer for the Batman t.v.series. Yeah, it shows.

I love Lindsay :,) On an absolute binge during the lockdown and she is so uplifting & interesting to watch

1:50 "Cuddle up with your favorite, helpless kidnappee; as we take a look *glances off to the side* at the history of...King Kong" I see what you did there, Lindsay.

The 2005 Peter Jackson Version remains my favorite Kong film! Awesome video essay as always!

That subtle look to the side when she said “favorite kidnappie.” Priceless.

I mean, he's a loose adaptation that definitely changed a lot over the years, but I feel Donkey Kong deserved a mention here since, the fact that he's a giant ape and his last name aside, he made his debut by kidnapping Pauline (Jumpman/Mario's gf) and scaling . . . uh, a bunch of platforms and ladders which I suppose stood as monuments to man's hubris somehow. Like the fact that he was supposed to be the video game equivalent of King Kong is pretty blatant tbh

Thanks for the reupload! I wonder how this year's Kong film fits in. It's clearly a kaiju film rather than something close to Cooper. It's a lot faster paced than the 2005 film, but it doesn't really use the 33 film's ideas at all.

Yes, please work Tom Hardy into everything.

After watching episodes of Nerdwriter and Mister Amazing and Every Frame a Painting and even Movies with Mikey, there's something really nice and comforting about Chez Lindsay's realness. The production is more relaxed and the performances are much looser and a maybe a little silly. It makes the whole show way more approachable and seems, in the end, profoundly un-pretentious. Sorry if it sounds like I'm saying it's more ramshackle, cuz that's not what I mean. It's just a really refreshing show! So thanks for making it!

One of my favorite youtubers just uploaded a whole bunch of videos. Today is a good day.

yes, finally someone who likes Jackson's King Kong. I love this movie so much.

You're free of Channel Awesome's old channel completely now. 😁

When I was very young, I watched the original King Kong while visiting my grandparents in Brooklyn NY, the next day we went to the Empire State Building. The original has been one of my all-time favorite movies after that. Thanks for the analysis!

The 2005 Kong movie was part of my childhood, it’s this movie along with its video game that made me a Kong person!

I'm guessing this predated Kong: Skull Island. I would have liked an honourable mention for Mighty Joe Young. Oh Well.

Linds, loose canon is so fantastic! Yet another wonderful installment!

"Ahhh, relive my trauma, if you insist." My, isn't Ann plucky?

Uncomfortable racism aside, the English dub of King Kong vs Godzilla is one of my favourite guilty pleasure movies. It's just so stupid and hilarious!

Never before have I seen such an apt use of royalty-free ukulele music

I saw skull island last night in 3D and it was UNBELIEVABLE!!! Omg..... this movie was so good. Visually, this movie was probably the best I have ever seen. Go see it while it's still in theatres. Don't wait for it to come out on blue ray. See it now.... it's worth the price of a ticket

Congrats on getting your stuff back.

On the Netflix show, you also missed the 2000 animated series where Kong has a technologically-enabled telepathic link to the show's actual protagonist, who genuinely considers Kong as his brother, and they fight bad guys because it's an early 2000s kids animated show and that's just sort of what you did. And for some reason it's all officially available to just watch on KZfaq...

05 Kong was a great movie. You needed to see it in the theater to fully appreciate it but yeah it was just badass.

Random fact: In Denmark he's called Kong King and kong is Danish (and Norwegian) for king...

you can't help but love Lindsay's sense of humor

that last line is why im in love with lindsay ellis

Notes on king Vs Godzilla. In 1963 Godzilla had only ever been two movies, the original and Godzilla Raids again, a movie that was released less then a year from the original in 1955. The Godzilla serries wasn't going strong it didn't even exist yet. The only reason it was made was because Willis O'Bian couldn't get anyone to make his dream "Kong Vs Frankenstein" because the budget was to high. He eventually went to Toho figuring suit-mation would be cheaper than stop motion. After a lot of negotiation and rewrites, and a small bit of worry over the international rights to Frankenstein, Godzilla was given the place of Frankenstein's monster. Another note that is lost on many American viewers is that O'Brian and Toho were not trying to revive Godzilla and make a monster movie. kong Vs Godzilla would lean even further into comedy than Son of Kong and become an almost parody of the general. Several famous japanese comedians were added to the cast and some of the plot elements were intentionally silly. With it's all star cast and unique flavor it was a bit in Japan, and would hold box office records for decades. In spite of it's success it was decided that it would need some major changes for the international release. While Ichiro Arishima was a big draw in Japan, it was worried that the slap stick and dry humor of the film wouldn't translate well to the American sensibilities. The movie was rearranged, new scenes were filmed, and a lot of the humor was cut to make something more in line with the giant monster creature features that were more popular in the States. In the end the movie did quite well stateside due to an extensive advertising campaign and the star power of Kong and Godzilla. This convinced Toho to give Godzilla another shot and they went ahead and green lit three more films. Meanwhile Toho had planned a few Kong sequels, but they found the rights to be to costly, and changed the first planned sequel into a Godzilla movie (Godzilla vs the Sea Monster), with minimal changes to the script. They thought they were done with Kong for good untill Rankin-Bass (the animation studio behind Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer) approached them again with an offer to co-produce a Kong solo film basses on their King Kong cartoon. Since Toho still had most of the suit (it had been modified and lent to Tsubaraya for use in their Ultraman serries), and wouldn't have to pay for the rights for Konng they agreed. Rankin-Bass insisted that Kong Escapes hedge closely to the cartoon as possible, and while Toho did get away with some changes to the human cast, the film was a pretty faithful adaptation of the children's cartoon, including the use of a robotic Kong to work as Kong's nemesis. The film didn't do quite as well as Rankin-Bass had hoped and talks of any sequels were shut down quickly

When the Peter Jackson version came out on DVD, I hosted a Kong-athon covering four films (1933, 1976, 2005, and "King Kong Escapes" from 1967). There were three of us who spent nine-and-a-half hours watching giant ape movies.

I love that you match your outfits to the topic.

This was a fun episode. Thanks Lindsay!

Did not know there was a 2016 TV series about Kong fighting robot dinosaurs, but looks likw Kong: King of the Apes came and went without making many waves.

GREAT VIDEO, I REALLY ENJOYED THIS. YOU ARE SUCH A GREAT HOST AS WELL.

I want a loose canon for Godzilla sooooo bad!

king kong's family relative and cousions Donkey kong Diddy Kong Cranky Kong Dixie Kong Funky Kong Candy Kong Wrinkly Kong Kiddy Kong Tiny Kong Lanky Kong Donkey Kong Jr Dread Kong Swanky Kong Bluster Kong Karate Kong Kong Fu Ninja Kong Sumo Kong

That musical is now on Broadway haha

I'm curious about your thoughts on Skull Island as I found that movie to be a more modern update of Moby Dick. Just with Sam Jackson and King Kong.

As a guy who was in the Navy for awhile, we arent Lawful neutral. Chaotic, at best.

"Cuddle up with your favorite kidnappees..'' I think I'm gonna start using that line

Interesting thoughts all around! I never realized the Paramount Kong was that fishy... kinda don’t want to see it now. As for Peter Jackson’s version, well... it *might* be my favorite Jackson movie? It’s a toss-up between it and Return of the King. But your critiques of Jackson’s Kong are rather spot on; it’s a film that’s very in love with itself, but also paradoxically too long and too short. And the stuff with the natives is pretty weirdly handled; Jackson doesn’t even give us a sympathetic moment when the sailors crack out the guns on them. It’s a weird marriage between old and new standards for acceptable portrayal, and that’s why I like analysis like yours: it puts a spotlight on how far our world as our media has come, and helps us understand the nuance so we can keep striving for better. 💯

I agree sooo much about the Jackson-version! i mean, I was 13, but I honest to god remember shedding a tear at the end, as probably the first and only human to ever do that during a goddamn king Kong movie!

Love your videos! Was really hoping to see you do something on Mighty Joe Young.

Heh. Almost wish she'd added the cartoon to this. I remember watching that series a lot. Don't remember if it was any good, but i remember it existed.

hey lindsay, how does the skull island kong relate to these? kong doesnt climb a symbol of hubris instead, the hubris is concentrated into samuel l jackson

I just realized that this was done before the Skull Island movie or the news that there is going to be yet another Kong v Zilla movie :) Loved the Jackson version myself.

Wow, the end of that introduction was rough :P. I loved it!

a loose canon the would be interesting to see is the depictions and stories we have written about the Manhattan project compared to the actual history

Great vid. Gotta admit I liked the scores to both the 76 and 2005 versions

You're good at this!

awes-enine is a very powerful word that I intend to now use daily, but that might mean I have to talk about the 1976 King Kong more than I would like to

I loved Peter Jackson's King Kong Film. it was just beautiful.

Loving your reviews and analyses. You're funny and profound lmao!

Yay! You got your content back!

i saw king kong vs godzilla at this creature double feature when i was about 13. it was incredible, the crowd there was a complete riot

As a woman who is in love with Godzilla. I get it. Also that Netflix show was garbage.

I would love to hear what you thought of the 2017 Kong movie, since it differs greatly from most of the other Kong movies.

Kong Lives was the first one i saw back when i was 9 i think and i kinda loved it. I may have to check out its predecessor; that looks AMAZING. Tried to watch the original, or rather my parents tried to get me to watch it since i loved Lives so much, but having grown up solely on stuff from 1977+ at that point i just couldn't get past the dated effects. Upside though. Whether by lucky accident or brilliant epiphany, my dad double-featured it with The Planet of The Apes, and coming straight off the first half-hour of King Kong allowed me to completely look past the prototypical ape makeup, and i was able to fully appreciate the movie. For the moment Peter Jackson's is my favorite with Skull Island coming in a close second. It's long yes, but i agree it still manages to leave one wanting more. Even the extended cut of Jackson's King Kong never feels padded to me, but then I'm one of those people who can watch an entire trilogy in a day without feeling worn out. I even own the Extended Editions of The Hobbit and prefer them over the theatrical versions.

Points for D&D reference :)

The first and third acts of Peter Jackson's King are just fantastic. The second is... quite dull and mostly oddly pointless.

this is a wholeass two years later but King Kong is actually on Broadway now...I went to see it yesterday! It’s good, but some of the vocal songs are weird. and there’s also two parts where dubstep plays as King Kong’s puppet is swung around with Ann in slow motion. It’s cooler than it sounds, but still weird...

11:57 Kong: Skull Island: “Allow me to introduce myself”

Please come back. you are a beast of a content creator

Not to detract from your brilliance and humour, but just have to say that you look beautiful as always! Thanks for your channel! I really enjoy your insights!

Lindsay is both my favourite kidnapee and my favourite monument to Man’s hubris, so I guess that puts me in a decent place

I liked skull island because of the after credit clip tying it into the Kiaju-verse. Legendary Godzilla from 2014 is coming back in Godzilla: King of the Monsters in 2019. Then Godzilla vs Kong in 2020 (skull island Kong and 2014-2019 Godzilla). I loved this shit as a kid. Thought it was dumb when I got older. But now I'm hyped again. I think it's because there is an effort here at some continuity building where Kaiju never really had that before and were previously taken in all sorts of directions. It's a slow build, but their doing with Kaiju what Marvel and DC did with their universes on the big screen.

I love your channel.

Why no reference to Mighty Joe Young movies?

A future Kong fighting against robot dinosaurs? That's so badass, I wanna watch it!

I saw the 70s version of KK in the theater as a young kid. Watched it again with my kid a few years ago and was totally in shock over the Deep Throat/porno references shortly after "Dwan" is rescued. And given the news the last week or two, clearly nothing has changed.

I quite liked the "Chaotic Neutral" reference. Hey, if this whole making-money-thing doesn't work out for you, you'll always have a place on my table. I both love and fear you. Good luck to you, Lindsey.

Part 2! Part 2! Part 2! Part 2! But yeah this time definitely wait until the movie everyone is crapping their pants over comes out. Might mean not getting the episode out until 2025, but hey, you'll have plenty of time to give Jackson's King Kong another chance(personally it's my favorite. I cry right along with Anne when the planes are coming in for their final run). Heck, you could make it a series and do full reviews of the whole franchise.

We NEED a loose canon GODZILLA PLEASE come back we miss you

Fun fact I just learnt in film class: King Kong (1933) was the first live-action talkie film to use non-diegetic music! (ie, music that doesn't exist in the world of the characters)

Peter Jackson's King Kong is one of only three movies I ever fell asleep watching. Calling it long and boring is an understatement.

It's been six years and I'm still waiting on that video about Godzilla.

Don't forget the sci-fi version _"Steve Buscemi in: King Kong - IN SPACE!"_

The Godzilla series actually wasn't really going strong at the time of King Kong vs Godzilla. The second Godzilla movie, Godzilla Raid's Again underperformed and Toho experimented with other types of monsters which is where Mothra and Rodan came from. King Kong vs Godzilla was the first Godzilla movie after a hiatus for several years. So it was kind of a reboot.

The closest thing to that quote would be the part of the Epic of Gilgamesh where Enkidu the wild man is charmed and tamed by the priestess.

It's too bad you didn't go more in depth about KKvG, since it's arguably the only one played as a comedy. Also it has some pretty anti-capitalist stuff in it (like Mothra vs G).

4 years later and still no Godzilla video from Lindsay :(

Can you please do Tarzan

9:54 "I'm giving up. Godzilla's probably dead." Don't know of the sub directly after that clarifies

King Kong vs. Godzilla... AKA Donkey Kong's and K. Rool's respective ancestors fighting each other.

Im curious to know what you thought about the newest Kong movie?

Poor Adrian Brody he's in direct to DVD movies with Bruce Willis now