"Why would I want a white kid playing me? I am a black man. A proud black man" -Michael Jackson

" I Can't Help It" it is one of the most sampled songs by Hip Hop artist and one of the best songs on Off The Wall

it's funny how they could have a white actor play Michael Jackson but white people go crazy when Idris Alba wants to play James Bond smfh

off the wall was like that awesome scene in movies when the hero first discovers his super power (montage) and thriller is the scene when he fights the villian

1.Dangerous is my personal favorite and I feel was him at his creative peak 2. Off The Wall may be his best all around album... Definitely his best produced album 3. Thriller is his most versatile and every song was damn near a hit 4. Bad was his peak as a solo pop star 5. History was his deepest and heaviest album... Very lyrical too 6. Invincible was great vocally... He was singing like crazy on that album

Off The Wall was Spectacular but Thriller pushed Michael Jackson's creativity to another level. In terms of making songs and film-like music videos, MJ did it on a different level. Lord Jamar speaks nothing but truth in this. One of my jobs is being an MJ Tribute artist and really do look like MJ from the Off The Wall era and sometimes the Thriller Era. In my line of work, most MJ tribute artists are white. I'm literally one of the few Black MJ tribute artists. The fact I look like young MJ actually makes me more successful than the rest. If it wasn't for me being proud of my race and not surgically enhancing myself to look more like the less black looking MJ's out there, I wouldn't be as successful as I am. Embrace your culture people. Black is Beautiful.

I definitely prefer Thriller but Vlad needs to get off that "it's the greatest selling record" shit every time he debates the albums. Sales have no place in a better album talk. Go on about how every song was a jam, how it's mostly flawless aside from The Girl Is Mine, how adventurous it was with the reinventions of genres, how it took the Off the Wall prototype and perfected it. Who cares which album sold more? Thriller is the better album because it's more consistently great track by track. But Lord Jamar is right in saying that there'd be no Thriller without Off the Wall.

Off The Wall is leaps and bounds better than Thriller. Thriller was more pop which translates to mainstream. Off The Wall was more soulful, which translates to urban. MJ himself stated that creatively, he was more comfortable with Off The Wall. But I fuck with both.

"thriller wasnt black enough for me" lmao jamar is ridiculous

Off The Wall artistically, was a much BETTER (and soulful) album than Thriller.

I mean it's not like Thriller was a flop,blk folks loved Billie Jean. I mean what blk man can't relate to a woman trying to put a baby on em lmao. MJ was timeless

I'm not on either side lol. They're both buggin'. Burn this Disco Out is one of the livest songs on Off the Wall and one of my favorite closing tracks of any album. And Lord Jamar dismissing Billie Jean as just "iight"? Nah.

So bc he lightened his skin and changed his face, that changed his genetics?LOL He was still the person he was born, regardless of his appearance. He WAS born black. Omg are ppl stupid?

All black people feel Off The Wall is better than Thriller.

C'mon Jamar..."I Can't Help It" is the gem on "Off The Wall" album written by Stevie Wonder...and you were humming the break to "Blame It On The Boogie"

Off the Wall is more soulful. The reason why Thriller and Bad were well received because fans also connected with Michael Jackson's art. The artistic videos and dance took those songs to another level. It gave the songs a little more life and interpretation with the videos. For example Beat It and Bad on face value are just average crossover songs. The video is a different story. The first time we all saw Billie Jean when Michael walked on the glowing sidewalks. Legendary.

Off the wall is WAY better than Thriller. Thriller is michael jackson crossing over into pop

........"The Lady In My Life" is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard

Stevie Wonder wrote I can't help it!!!

They're both great... but Thriller had everything... rock, pop, soul, quiet storm, funk... and there is nothing as electrifying as Billie Jean... however, there's also nothing as poignant and vulnerable as She's Out of My Life... both are great on their own terms... let's just leave it at that.

Both Albums are Great But Thriller Shook The 80's.

Girlfriend is one of the best songs on Off the Wall

People so like to disregard MJ's music after off the wall or thriller. Like thats when the dude was just getting started, Dangerous and History were more personal albums especially History after he went through all the media bullshit. It wasn't a commercial album more personal even though it was marketed as one because its MJ. If you're talking about pure pop gold Michael Jackson then Off the wall and Thriller is as far as you'll go But I feel MJ was more than that imo Stranger In Moscow is his best ever song, like thats actually him as an artist saying what he's going through, Who is it and They done care about us are criminally underrated but because its not the classic afro perfect pop black michael jackson everyone wants to disregard him. I'm not saying Off the wall is not his "best" album it probably is but MJ was still a great artist several albums later whether people wanna ignore it or not.

Off The Wall Michael Jackson's best album simple. No question, no debate necessary. Regardless of sales etc. The better album musically OFF THE WALL because the album was off the wall!😅

black people like soulful music and at some award show all michael won was soul awards and he said he wanted to win awards in other categories

Off the Wall is better. Thriller is whiter. Facts.

Off the Wall was most cohesive but Thriller is flawlesss.

I LOVE both "Off The Wall" and "Thriller". Anything with Michael Jackson on it I LOVE. He's the King of Pop, for God's sake I can't discriminate!!!

Off the wall has better music, but Thriller was the more popular album. Just like Pac's biggest album was All Eyes On me, but Me Against the world was better music.

Off the wall wasn't weak, just raw. The rawness made it authentic. Off the wall was better to me. All of it is just a matter of opinion.

i still be bumping "get on the floor "

Thriller is better because it showed that a black artist can do any genre he or she can do. R&B, Funk, Disco, Rock, and Pop. No black artist did all of the above especially in one album. Off the Wall was the Album of the times, but Thriller was an album ahead of its time. It never became dated. Off the Wall unfortunately is a dated album as a whole. Thriller has more iconic, influential and innovative tracks than Off the Wall does. The production is more advanced and complex than Off the Wall. Thriller is the blue print of not just Pop music but pop culture in general. Thriller is a symbol that shows that black artists can do it all. Especially with Rock and Disco being predominantly white at that time. Thriller was both a middle finger to racism and a sledgehammer that broke the racial barrier in the fine arts and pop culture

Song for song, THRILLER as a pop album beats OFF THE WALL. As a soulful r&b record that reflected the disco era, jazz, soul and dance it was definitely geared for a certain audience. MJ had goals to reach the world, and to transform popular music. To do that, it took, taking risk and thinking beyond the boundaries of what people called "normal". Beside all the personal things he had going on, if we focus ONLY on his music & his business mind, we see a man that is exceptionally gifted. He wanted to be #1 and he accomplished it. Period.

The day before a Michael Jackson album would come out I remember seeing people lined up outside the record stores wanting to be the first ones to get a copy. I've never seen that happen with any other artist.

Off the Wall was great but the Thriller album was Magic. No recording artist has ever reached the status Mike did with Thriller. This was Mike at his peak no doubt

Actually his hate made me go back an listen to both albums,Thriller runs laps over off tha wall from start to finish!! Off tha wall still tha chitt both#Classics

MJ's Dangerous is the best album ever IMO!

Why do black people continue to forget that "rock music" started from us! It is black music! Granted Thriller is more mainstream than Off The Wall but it's not any less black because of it. How Jamar gon sit up here and deny the funk, soul and blackness of "PYT", "Wanna Be Startin Something", "Baby Be Mine" and "The Lady In My Life"??? I do prefer Off The Wall but let's not act like Thriller wasn't the shit. Plus I personally believe that Michaels music remained very black throughout his life, no matter what genre he ventured into and dabbled in...there was always still an element of soul and funk either through his vocals or sonically. And why TF do people stay forgetting Bad? I prefer Bad and Off the Wall to Thriller. Bad is the edgier, mainstream cousin to Thriller but with better videos, songwriting, creativity, sonic exploration and hits. The fact that it is so underrated compared to OTW and Thriller makes me love it more

1.) Thriller 2.) Bad 3.) Off The Wall 4.) Dangerous 5.) HIStory 6.) Invincible

Okay y'all are sleeping on Burn This Disco Out , that shit is straight fire

I Can't help It still is my Favorite MJ song.. Fuck what yall saying.. Michael Jackson infact is a Genre I'd say.

Forget Thriller or Off The Wall personally I think Bad was his best album

this Negus said human nature was soft. that's by far the best production song known to humans

the difference between the two is that off the wall had more soul and thriller was more of a crossover album to take Mike to the next level

i just realized dj vlad doesnt know alot of things

I love Thriller and that album made me a Michael Jackson fanatic but years later after listening to Off The Wall I can say that OTW is better than Thriller musically and sonically.

Off the Wall > Thriller. 1000%

Jamar knew more songs from Thriller because it was bigger than off the wall. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's better than Off the Wall . Off The Wall is a r&b masterpiece and Thriller is a pop masterpiece. If you like r&b more you'll like off the wall if you like pop more it's probably thriller .

''STOP WITH THE BULLSHIT CRITERIA VLAD!!'' LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

The production on “Off The Wall” is absolute 🔥🔥🔥

Quincy Jones went in with the production

I can't help it- written by Stevie Wonder... man that shit WENT and STILL goes hard...

MJ's Thriller will and forever be a classic. and for what they did for up an coming talent changed the way we looked at music videos

This man said I Can't Help it was "okay" smh.

Off the Wall is better. More authentic Michael. Thriller was good but it was so popular because it crossed over to a white audience.

Off The Wall was his breakthrough album..Thriller was his arrival.

14:14 Vlad was so passionate about the Thriller album when he hit that high note

Vlad: "Lord Jamar what do you think slim Jesus's favourite M.J album was"? Lord Jamar: "Definitely bad cause his beyond white"

I can't help it was fire tho

I Can't Help It wasn't weak... that's a classic hip hop loop

Off the Wall is easily better.

Jammar was bugging about I Can't Help It being merely "aight". That joint was some straight lover, have a baby with your girl type shit. De La Soul turned that joint into a classic.

Off the Wall is a great album, but Thriller is Legendary.. Literally an album of #1 hits.

I prefer Bad over off the wall and thriller

Off the wall IS better.... no debate here

the white guy came outta vlad when he said "he's a singer" lol

First time I highly disagree with Lord Jamar, Off The Wall is a great album from 1-5 and fall off 6-10 except for I Can't Help It. Thriller is great from Wanna Be Startin Somethin to The Lady In My Life. Every song on Thriller could've been a video.

Bad is Micheal Jacksons best album. Bad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any album MJ ever put out

I agree with Lamar Jamar that Off The Wall was his most acclaimed album. Just as far as the Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson's stamp and Brand.That Album was stupendous for both of them.The Black community embraced it and mainstream as well. It was a progressive in the sense of taking a so called Bull Gum young superstar,and ascending him into adult hood in the music world ,was an indelible transformation musically for his career. Thriller was just complimentary which subsequented the success of that album.Plus the world already started to change once that Album came out.Maybe not in sales,but as far as the musical choices.,made Off The Wall to me one of his greatest efforts. He never sounded like that again. Although Michael made wonderful albums after that,but from A-to Z I LOVED ALL THE SONGS ON Off The Wall.R.I.P MJ

The Making of Thriller actually made the Thriller Album popular and biggest selling. The actual footage behind the scenes was bigger than all the songs. Off the wall was hot!

I can see Lord Jamar's point. Off the Wall feels distinctly planted in black culture of the time. The tracks from this album are tracks you could dance to in the club. Thriller saw Michael's transcendence into another realm. You could enjoy Thriller and Beat It and share in the spectacle of both. However, you were really dancing to both of those songs in the same way as the songs from Off the Wall. I see his point. Though, if you listen to both albums side by side one might enjoy Thriller better. Those songs from Thriller feel larger in scope.

I thought I was the only one!!! Off The Wall is def > Thriller

DJ Vlad "So Lord Jamar, Slim Jesus or Michael Jackson" Lord Jamar "This is why Blacks are still slaves" DJ Vlad "Ahhh Slim Jesus"

Off The Wall without a doubt

At first I thought Off The Wall was better.... but I had to look back at not only the impact of Thriller, but the innovative sonic sounds of thriller, to the dance moves it incorporates to the music videos. There's no way Off The Wall is better than Thriller. Billie Jean is like one of the greatest songs of all time! To me ( and to Rolling Stones Magazine😉) Off The Wall is still a classical disco/ funk album! But Thriller sorry :)

the thing with thriller and off the wall is that off the wall is definitely much more black. it has that motown feeling taking to a all other level. thriller was branched out, that the genius of it, you cant make a huge crossover album just catering to black people, so thriller gave you a bit a everything, and it did it also in a amazing way. very different albums at the end of the day, with off the wall very bright album, versus the dark and gloomy thriller. at the end of the day michael was breaking music boundaries, as he did throughout all of his career, and just reminding people that music has no color.

Gabe-bri-elle Union? Nigga gab-rielle. What the fuck lol

Off The Wall is my favorite MJ project, Thriller just sold more

So he didn't listen to anything after Off the Wall? Wow.. He's deprived himself of a lot of great music! Also, Michael's music has always been soulful so I don't know how it wouldn't be "black" enough.

Vlad: "I can't help it" Jamar: *SINGS BLAME IT ON THE BOOGIE*

I can't lie Thriller & Off the Wall are pretty neck to neck! The Off the wall song from the album is my favorite on that album. It was so soulful I've never heard Michael sing that good like on that album! His vocals were inhumane!

I know all the songs off "Thriller & Off The Wall" Paul McCartney wrote "The Girl Is Mine"

Okay but Thriller broke racial barriers, to show that black artists can be mainstream pop. MJ's Thriller is the reason why black artists today can be in mainstream pop.

Jamar has way less knowledge of the material on "Off The Wall" than "Thriller" but claims "OTW" is the superior album. Definitely not one of his finest 'debate' moments lol!

Michael Jackson was a co-composer of "Off The Wall" and "Rock With You" with Rod Temperton who was a keyboardist and leader or co-leader of the late 1970s group, Heatwave, and was a white man born in Cleethorpes, England. However, I still totally get Lord Jamar's points with respect to the 2 M.J. albums discussed.

thriller was pop. off the wall was the origin of rnb

Off the Wall and 1981's Triumph with the Jackson's are the 2 greatest MJ albums of all time!

Thriller and Off the wall were both instant classics.

off the wall had more SOUL IT PROVES WHO likes it

Man these people are ignorant. "Rock With You", "Off the Wall", "Burn This Disco Out", "Baby Be Mine", "The Lady in My Life", "Thriller" all written by a white guy.

Put it this way. Off the Wall was great because it solidified Michael as the biggest black solo artist in the USA and broke him out of his shell as just the leader of The Jacksons. Thriller however, put him on another platform as solidfying him as the Greatest solo artist in the world. period! Thriller had a way stronger impact on the music industry and the world musically. Michael Jackson owned the 1980s.💯

I was riding with him until he said human nature "soft shit"

Lord jamar lookin like the black rocky balboa with that outfit on.

I listen to Off the Wall much more often than Thriller. Off the Wall is just insanely good - the thumping, funky bass lines, staccato horns, the beats. The FREEDOM AND ABANDON with which Michael sings is at it's peak on this album. He sings as if he has nothing to lose. With every record after Off the Wall, I feel Michael was always slightly more restrained, because he had an agenda to produce a record that would give him the props that he felt he had been denied with Off the Wall. Not to discount how good his later albums were, but his vocals on OTW are just crazy good. Just my opinion.

Thriller: Wanna be startin' somethin' Baby be mine The girl is mine Thriller Billie jean Beat it Human nature PYT Lady in my life Off the wall: Don't stop till you get enough Rock with you Workin' day & night Get on the floor Off the wall Girlfriend She's out of my life I can't help it It's the falling in love Burn this disco out Off the wall was more pure and soulful BUT thriller changed the way people viewed music in general, you can't speak for a whole race my guy... I love thriller as much as off the wall but I really can't choose; there's really no wrong answer when it comes to MJ's best album

Its hard to compare Off the wall with Thriller just for the fact that it was two seperate decades, Michael Jackson has always been original, so to label his later music white isnt really accurate, Jamar says the industry pushed the songs on to the people, but it was the people that chose to accept the music, and to buy the album, 80s pop was bigger than alot of other genres, for record sales, its fair to say that Michael Jackson went pop more than soul, but pop music had both black and white at the time.

Off the Wall and Thriller is kinda the same album. Thriller is Off the Wall amplified....both flavors

What about Bad? or Dangerous? wait we forgot history and invincable!!! You know what? Fuck it this is impossible, All them albums are great. That's why Mj is the best ever. and this is only record wise, we not talking dance moves, stage performances, fashion etc.... Michael Jackson is truley the Greatest Entertainer to ever do it

Public Enemy/Hip Hop culture was a reaction to NOT wanting to be like Michael Jackson. "We wanted to destroy music" - Chuck D

I have enjoyed and agreed with probably 97% of Lord Jamar interviews but he lost me on this Off The Wall/Thriller debate but that's cool you can't win em all. Still my favorite Vlad speaker along with Charlamange and Star crazy ass. But uh... THERE IS IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM that OFF THE WALL IS BETTER THAN THRILLER. That's becoming like some cliche shit to say. Song for song on the playlist THRILLER is better than OFF THE WALL. Example: What song is "It's The Falling In Love" better than on Thriller? What song is "Girlfriend" better than on Thriller? What song is "Burn This Disco Out" better than on Thriller? What song is "Get On The Floor" better than on Thriller? What song is "She's Out Of My Life" better than on Thriller? Ya'll wanna keep talking this Off The Wall is better than Thriller nonsense? I wish somebody interview me on this shit cos i'll shut that debate down. I love Off The Wall but THRILLER IS BETTER. Every song on Thriller is the shit INCLUDING "Baby Be Mine" if anything that song is underrated like a mufucka. If that's Mike's least favorite song on Thriller then it's better than other mufuckas BEST SONG. That's real talk. And since when is THRILLER a WHITE ALBUM? Thriller ain't no goddamn WHITE ALBUM, white people just couldn't resist it's dopeness. There ain't NOTHING WHITE about THRILLER. "Beat It" ain't even WHITE, that shit is the best black rock joint since Jimi Hendrix. Hell it's probably safe to say it was the ONLY black rock song since Jimi Hendrix at that point and black people invented Rock N Roll anyway so "Beat It" ain't white. I'm from the projects on the south side of Chicago and niggas WAS BUMPING THE THRILLER ALBUM. PERIOD. In fact, when the Jacksons came to Chicago's Comiskey Park for the Victory Tour back in like 84' I think it was, niggas that couldn't get tickets were standing on top of the State Way Gardens Projects (which were on the other side of the Dan Ryan looking down into the stadium) with binoculars trying to look at that shit so I don't know what black people Brother Jamar talkin about not loving Thriller but black people in Chicago was on that shit. Wasn't nobody standing on top of projects for Off The Wall. Michael Jackson performed "Billie Jean" on Motown 25 and it was pretty much over for EVERY SINGER ON PLANET EARTH and it was over for OFF THE WALL as well. Again, I love Off The Wall but NOTHING is better than THRILLER. Not Off The Wall not Purple Rain, not Songs In The Key Of Life, not Aja, not The Joshua Tree, NONE OF THAT SHIT. Thriller is the greatest like ALI.