My favorite character of all Kung fu panda is Lord Shen! , And you ?

But we are in February, it will be less than a year.

Kimberly D Viveros * shows knife

Right now? Cause it’s... the middle of the year.

Bruh, its year of the rat

Churchill: How....how did-how...how did you do it? Hitler: Well I convinced you guys that the Ardennes were impenetrable, got around the Maginot- Churchill: No, not that. How did you create a military? I took away your colonies. Everything! I humiliated you for life!

@@antonioferrari241 "that's the thing Winston, lives get better"

@@Lenny-ue8hk "no no they don't worlds get better"

@@katwilliams3399 "oh yeah, what do lives do? they... end I guess?"

@@Lenny-ue8hk I don't care what lives do

Yeah lol

69th like here. Just to mention. Also, yeah, Shen is Dreamworks' Scar

if you think about it, he's very similar to Voldemort: > had some large amount of power and an important bloodline > some unreliable prophecy told him that a certain person would kill him > attempts to destroy that person, who is saved by his mom, who dies; the prophecy is made true by this > goes into hiding for long amount of time before reemerging out of the shadows with newfound power > takes what is "rightfully his" > the hero from the prophecy rises against him despite the odds, and decides to face that hero in his arrogance, leading to his doom. except Shen was deeply menacing, had great dialogue and greatly scarred the hero emotionally at a young age, and also had better written motivations with one clear goal in mind.

@@atocanboi409 Except Voldemort wasn't neglected by his parents because of Leucism

Hmmm what other villain has a non English word for god as their name *cough Dio

I'm pretty sure someone else in another video already said this

does that mean that there will be no more kung fu panda movies?

@@martinhalvorsen46 well.... it was a trilogy i dunno if they make quadrilogy

Martin Halvorsen they want to make 6 movies and I’ve even heard rumors of 9 but I’m pretty sure that 4,5 and 6 are confirmed but aren’t coming out soon

@Cecil Abbott thanks for the great News. Im now very excited to watch the other movies, but i do Wonder. What is the other Key components to kung fu

They made him scarier than a snow leopard that had half a films worth of build up on its side. Shen should honestly get a movie or movies. Considering that Kung Fu Panda still doesn't have a film related to its universe in production theres a fair possibility we will. Especially if dreamworks sees that there is demand for Shen

@Instinct Oh yea thats true. Shen however did the same thing but in a different way. Yea he was still very powerful at Kung Fu but Shen had a weapon that not even Shifu, Master Rhino or Shen himself couldn't stop it literally made Kung Fu obsolete to all but the most powerful ones such as Po and most likely Oogway. Shen wasn't even set up to be invincible he was even shown to be at some points to be afraid of Po. Or at the start battle when Shen demolished 2 masters of Kung Fu to be stopped by Master Rhino shattering his knifes

@Instinct He does know Kung Fu i jut forget the certain type he uses but its the style using metal fans

@@jammygamer8961 I think the first villain was pretty cool. Shen was amazing in every way. but the last one... was so underwelming it's sad :(

@@sofialaya596 Yea he was. By disney villain standards he was pretty decent tho

“You insolent fool! RAAAAAH!!” -master storming Ox

"You are simply no match for our Kung Fu!" -Master Thunderstorm Rhino

"I agree, but this is" -Shen

*BROOOF *Splat

In the end, *Shen's hindsight was true.*

yeah pretty much

Well Shen was always one step ahead Of Po, he was prepared, and in the end he knew he had gone too far to give up.

@@llamabomb9375 Yeah, it wasn't like they were just going to forgive him if he stopped. He'd probably be executed. So even if he knew deep down that he had already lost and that it was pointless, he still had to keep going.

Yeah po is fearless he isn’t afraid to lose or die but when going up against shen he had everything to lose not just his life... his identity

@@aliyarubinstein6587 it wasn't only because of himself knowing the world won't forgive him, but also the victims who he had killed and sacrificed and all. Truly well made character.

“The cup you’ve chosen to fill has no bottom” -soothsayer

@@averongodoffire8098 DESTRUCTION 100

''The more you take, The less you have.'' -Master Oogway

@@rhubarbo5744 pewsent is gift ugwai

@@rhubarbo5744 pewsent is gift ugwai

I definitely agree. The two best villains I can think of from Dreamworks are Tai Lung and Shen just because of how they are built up and developed throughout the film. Shen specifically is animated beautifully, especially how he perks up his feathers during battle to disguise his next attacks and distracts his opponents. They made a peacock intimidating not through brute strength, like Tai Lung, but with a wicked intelligence and apathy for those he needs to kill to reach his goals. He's able to go as far as commit genocide to secure his life, only to give birth to his greatest adversary. He is the yang to Po's ying, and is the best villain by far, with Tai Lung a close second.

It could be argued that Shen isn't arrogant Arrogant is "having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities." He clearly isn't like that with his abilitys as he agreed he was no match to the Kung Fu of Master Croc, Master Ox and Master Rhino. He didn't act as if he was as important as anyone else either from what i remember

@@jammygamer8961 He wrecked Croc and Ox though. Master Rhino meant "kung-fu in general."

@@ForsakenDreamer7 Na he said "Our Kung Fu" Croc and Ox could of easily gotten back up and then the 3 of them would hack shen to bits.

@@jammygamer8961 Yet they didn't even after battle was over.

Austria Hungary I second that

I say the same, although I consider him the best villain of Kung Fu Panda in general

@DeustyPixel Definitely the best character he needs his own movie

@DeustyPixel He did. He threw 3 blades into boss wolfs neck and face for them to fall off and drown. He also killed Master Rhino

@DeustyPixel Oh i get what you mean now. He is still the best character tho

Ugh a little bit more

this be a mood though

Fun fact: white peacocks actually exist My cousins used to own peacocks, and one of their females was white and she wasn’t an albino.

*gorila grunts*

Samurex Atlas a little more

Po's story is over and 3 more films are on the way. We may eventually see Kung Fu Peacock

@@jammygamer8961 I hope! That be really cool xp

Tell me about it! They had all these great villains with great backstories and motivations but they were effectively forever ruined by jack black...as a panda

@@austinwilson7373 You forget Shen is the only one who wasn't banished to the spirit realm and he also attempted to kill himself. At the end of Kung Fu Panda 2 you see that can that hit Shen sunk along with him before the boat began to burn. Now considering Shen is strong enough to be hit by a war hammer so hard it shatters the knifes he is holding with hitting them its safe to assume he is very powerful. Its likely that he just got smashed through the very heavily damaged wooden hull and into the water. Shen is likely to of survived

@@jammygamer8961 hopefullu well see him in kung fu panda 5. The character is so awesome, but we only got to really see him fight two Times in the movie. The way he battles, and uses his tail while fighting is so satisfying. The best villiain in kung fu panda ever. Maybe even best character.

(Brandishes a blade) “And this is the year,of course, of the peacock. Happy new year, sir!”

wolf boss is the goodest boy, you cant convince me otherwise

@@MelindaColden well he did smack po in the face with a hammer

@@thegamingraptor3573 and sacrificed himself rather than firing on his own men

@@mikephelps9238 *“Get the wolves ready, we’re loading the ships now…NOW!! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!”*

In my personal opinion both Shen and Tai lung where not truly evil people. The only truly evil person in this trilogy was Kai

@@jammygamer8961 One could make that argument for all 3 (Kai was Ooguay's brother-in-arms after all). The problem Kai had is they didnt really delve too deeply into setting him up like the other 2, which is why most folks feel like the third movie is the worst.

@@KiraSilversoul Lol thats not the problem with the film. The reason i say Kai is evil because even after hundreds of years being trapped in the spirit realm he still wanted to control Chi and wanted to ruin everything Oogway has built because of Oogway beating him before. He showed no remorse but infact pride when he exclaimed he was the maker of widows while Shen and Tai both only did what they thought was needed.

@@jammygamer8961 Shen and Tai Lung are more human than Kai figuratively speaking

That's what I hate the most about our dubbed version. It was all gone and Shen was just... average villain :/

Kapp*

69 likes gamer, not risking liking it

1000000000000000000000000000/10

agree

No other VILLAIN. In Kung Fu Panda 3, Po kills himself and Kai. And when Kai and Po are in the spirit realm, Kai nearly takes over his soul. But I still think Shen is the best :p

X2

Agreed

Best Character excluding Po himself

Well ya

No Kai is

RenDemn he agreed to po’s point but couldn’t let go of his hatred losing his sanity in the process

@@mikephelps5454 Yea. He couldn't find peace and that destroyed him

Like the Witch of Anna's Quest, the hand was extended, but he was too far gone, and chose his own destruction.

And sadly that's how it works in the real world. When represents a more realistic type of villain

@Maria Samhoun i wish he just got his body messed up and covered in splinters

That’s what I really liked about it, how it was a darker tone than your typical kids film. Dreamworks got a lot of hate though from parents about how dark the film was so they made the 3rd film much lighter and campier.

It had a more serious note yes, but that made the story so much better. War has to be taken seriously even or maybe especially by animation. They fleshed out the world so much woth the second part, we got to see that there actually is a kingdom, shogunate or however the chinese form is called. Most animation movies these days sacrifice a good story for cheap laughs. That is sad, but that makes the rare good ones even better.

Too bad they don't wanna expose their kids with dark cartoons like this. Parents also need to show their kids the harsh reality too to make them realize that once they grow up, it's not all sunshine and rainbows. The second movie taught a valuable lesson too. No matter how hard you went through, achieving inner peace is always possible if you embrace the hardships and let it flow. The past cant be changed. Dont hold deep grudges, or inner peace would be impossible. Shen didnt learn this, so he was shocked as to how Po managed to achieve it despite being scarred for life of losing his family throughout his life (before kfp 3). Man, i wish if they make another movie, they would make another that could par the first and second movie. The third movie seemed to lack something and it felt less weight than the first two films. I hope they take the risks, if it means we get a good story plot and not listen to negative comments. That is, if they make another kfp movie.

@@souhiyori8032 I mean what is it gonna do? Tell the kids that war isnt all glory and fun? That is why a majority of people nowadays have become so vulnerable, often having a weak and easily manipulable psyche.

@@jennymarie6591 ugh why do the Karen and kyle parents have to ruin everything. I would have loved a serious version of KFP 3

Want to see them again!

I also love how his first fight shows he is a capable warrior but can be beaten quite easily by an experienced master. It helps explain why he builds up his army so much and makes him somewhat vulnerable.

@@majava5282 and he knows this too

He one of favorite too.

its chica!

Oh yes gamer.

Invasion Begins sounds like Kimbara outback tho..

The first one got me chill.

Nice

Po defeats Shen is my favourite and wow you must be a real fan of this movie. ;-;

Katika Harris everything he does in the movie reflects the feeling people sometimes get where they start to breathe heavier and tear up with anger or passion, I feel bad for Shen

Cody Bender you should. Shen may have been dangerous and heartless, but deep down inside that monster is a peacock that is blinded by his ambitions.

He thought his parents hated him because they banished him They only did that because they loved him and wanted him to become redeemable which ended up killing them

Just Like Tai Lung and Kai.

Shen is a sociopath and fight for kill while the other villain from kung fu panda fight for their pride. Thats why Shen is scary and intimidating

Hmm I picture Shen having a death metal band

@@gamechanger8908 Or even liquid metal! His voice has enough range and volume that he could rock being a screamo singer

I mean the propechy did say a Black and white dude will kill him, It might not even be a panda.

@@theshycryo You’re not wrong! Shen has a lot of black and white, so while the genocide of the Pandas was the catalyst, it ultimately was Shen’s inability to forgive that killed him. That’s actually a really good point!

I think the difference between Po white(and black) is to represent the yin and yang while Shen white is death

Dying was like redeeming himself somehow, accepting his failure and paying with his own life.

Him accepting death despite being able to dodge the falling cannon was one of the best move dreamworks did for him. He was already fucked up to begin with, what more could he do to "redeem"? All his efforts will just go to waste, might as well finish the job. I love it ✨

The only part of him that could still be redeemed was the part that knew he didn't deserve it. He chose to die as himself rather than sacrifice his pride to accept a salvation he hadn't earned. Was he selfish, petty, narcissistic, and callous? Absolutely. But he was also a warrior, and though he died a villain, he died a warrior as true as any other.

I don't know if it would have ruined it, at least for me personally, but I still think it's better and makes more sense for the character that he ended up dying. Just wish he had more screen time ;)

So sad seeing everything this character was being forgotten in the new movie

Shen is a death metal fan pass it on

Also Red and White roses. And Po's has more black than white while Shen is the opposite. It could be seen as that Po has more of a Bias to one side of the Ying and Yang while Shen is Biased more towards the other side

They had there own theme actually Po: always appear in dark And always wet everytime you see him His Main element is water and wood(plants) Bonus: his final battle where he redirect the cannonballs he is standing on a boat(wood) and sorrounded by water around him. Lord Shen: however always appear in bright and dry themes everytime you see him His main element is fire and metal Bonus:his weapon breaths fire and spits metal. Make much more sense

@@michaelkwee7704 Basically Shen is Po's Anti

@Jammy Gamer, @Michael Kwee how much research have you two done on this movie xD

Schaff would like to point out that the Fairy Godmother exists lmoa

you mean symbol as in prophecy?

@@joseph8298 HIT IT! But I feel like Shen is way more interesting than the fairy godmother even though both are great in their own way

Yeah he couldve killed Po, but he didnt because he finds his stupidity mildly amusing.

Shit you right tho, that PTSD was strong in Po and PO didn't even know why

@Stormgem Thunder Grimmel was the best villain, because he was Hiccup if Hiccup decided to kill toothless. However you are right he could have been written better.

@@Darksaviour I would pick Drago for best villain (he was so close to conquer berk and their dragons!) we had stakes with him. Grimmel was interesting but his writting felt as if he had to be there just to be an antagonist. We needed more development for him! Also, he was precupied with Toothless so the stakes did not feel that huge to me as with Drago.

sisters8a Drago did have the highest stakes. But a story doesn’t have to have a big world ending event or fate of everything hinges on one moment. Sometimes personal stakes are just as escalating, especially if it’s for characters we love like hiccup and toothless.

I think drago was simple but well executed. Those shouts were phenomenal

How to Train Your Dragon also had an antagonist who wasn't that bad in the form of the Red Death since it was just an animal following natural instinct

HOLY CRAP, remember the intro to this movie when the soothsayer was narrating Shen's backstory? She said something about how fireworks brought beauty and joy, but Shen discovered that he could use it for evil.

Well, as a child, I was actually afraid of peacocks even without seeing this film.

@@hunnitbaehunnitbae8804 not really for evil. but more of how it can be used as a weapon

@William Lacy and of Death

Clearly you haven't been to pakistan then 😂 when I went to visit my family, I was attacked by two peacocks. My life flashed before me eyes and suddenly all I could imagine was this guy.

If anything Shen vastly overestimated the pandas at first, he massacred them out of perceived self-defense

I mean, he literally brought a cannon to a fistfight.

He actually acknowledged his enemies strength and knew his own limits. That makes him so much better than most animation villains.

I know righttt. He's one of the smartest villains to not underestimate their enemies/the hero. He overestimates them so that he can plan ahead and make back ups if it won't work. And him bringing a cannon in a fist fight is not cowardly, it's playing smart. There arent rules that states you cant bring one, right? That's why he's deadly. He plays or fights smart.

And yet, just like the rest of the villains, he failed in front of Po's true super power: Plot Armour.

One of animations

He really reminds me of Grimmel from how to train your dragon...

Cameron Curtis grimmel was almost a Human version of Shen

Yes both are psychotic I mean Shen already is and Grimmel hunts and kills dragons for pleasure

Ikr

We shall!

sammy lawrence the bendy fan Shen destroyed his own self....it seems unlikely but could happen that Lord Shen returns

It's the shen cult uprising

@sammy lawrence the bendy fan Shen wasn't a kung fu warrior, though, so would he even have considerable chi to harvest? He was just a martial arts master, but he didn't need spiritual alignment to be a formidable opponent. Also he was a genius who invented the cannon, so there's that.

All of China will bow before us

I simply agree with you. They might have been thinking some "what-if" questions while they were making him. That's what I would do for my stories.

*Tai-Lung has no connection to Po* *Kai has no connection to Po other than Po literally only knowing Oogway* *Shen literally gave Po PTSD and Po can’t even remember why*

@@bayonetonazero2535 They all connect to him in one way. Tai Lung wants to destroy Po because he wants the Dragon Scroll and wants to defeat him to become the Dragon Warrior. Shen wants to change his destiny and kill Po out of his paranoid nature. Kai saw that Po was chosen by Oogway to stop him and then, seeking to prove Oogway wrong and take revenge on him, he wanted to kill Po.

Shen's connection to Po is personal. Shen committed genocide on Po's village, Shen is the reason his mother was forced to orphan her son so he wouldn't die. Shen had the most impact on Po's life. It's why Po has PTSD. Had Shen done nothing. Po would grow up in his village with his biological parents. He might not have become the Dragon Warrior.

I love that they also thought ahead in making sure NO other pandas appeared in the first movie apart from Po himself. Indirectly establishing the rarity of pandas in the audience's subconscious. Brilliant foreshadowing.

It's just Dreamworks being Dreamworks 👌✨ **Chef Kiss**

That can be argued because Tai lung is scary in every scene he is in except the final fight and with shen you feel kinda sorry for him especially in the end where he just accepted death, and with the voice acting and his actions you can tell he was scared of Po especially when he gets desperate

@@banana_joe557 if you think about it all the actions he took were because he tried to avoid the fate that terrified him. When you think about the situation he was faced with while i or you wouldn't agree with it, you can understand why he did the genocide

6:42;Lord Shen:"Search the farthest Villages, *FIND MORE METAL!!!* China will be mine."

Wait... Isn't it Hitle-

@@shamalak4820 Well yes but actually no

Bacicly peckok hitler

Bacacly peckok hitler

Lol 2 times

Me.

how they made a literal _peacock_ (one of the more ridiculous-looking birds of the avian world) intimidating is beyond me, but somehow, they did it.

@@hobomike6935 ridiculous ???

Fun fact: I actually took a job at a zoo working around peacocks because of this mzn

@@hobomike6935bro how ridiculous? They are so beautifull.

Po*. Btw I totally agree.

It's definitely more Chinese (unsurprisingly)

Both Chinese and Japanese music sound very alike (I’m Japanese so I grew up listening to Japanese music). They use a lot of the same instruments, although Japanese music tends to have softer notes and more wind instruments than Chinese music.

What about Kai’s theme.

Chinese : Major Japanese : Minor

@@tayjoan3684 you are damn right (i m Chinese)

Yet another masterpiece that the Academy Awards ignored let me put this alongside Avengers Endgame, Infinity War, Harry Potter, and Snow White and the Seven Dwarves

Dream works makes some great movies but by far the two best series are: How to train your Dragon & Kung Fu Panda. Both could be nominated.

and it lost because of rango

@@adityabhalekar3506 Rango was also really good as well.

@@sran438 but I feel this was better overall

Holy sh*** you opened my eyes....

Proceeds to fire a cannonball at Po sending him flying across the river.

13:04;Po(Slow-mo):" *SKADOOSH!!!* "

He saw the error of his ways and finally let go of his hate and killed himself. Him having a second film trying to better himself and come to terms with his past would make a lot of sense. having 2 films showing the one above and a prequel to KFP 1 showing the events that took place and how the boat that baby Po was put in that was completely beached somehow unbeached itself would be rather interesting and seeing Shen and Soothsayer together would be fun

@@jammygamer8961 nah he didn't let go of his hate as he still attempted to kill Po even when he told him to let go of his past and the whole ''killing himself'' thing was Shen accidently cutting down the ropes holding the cannon in place and since he couldn't escape in time he accepted his fate by closing his eyes so in other words you saying Shen changed his ways is wrong while him ''killing himself'' is kinda true even though it was an accidental and blind choice made by him which led to his death

@UCE3s4TGUESv6NFcOBi66QoQ i see your hypothesis as well though out and with good explenations but Shen was injured from the explosion and seemed in to be caught in a rage when fighting Po and that basically murdering Po's family and village in an act of homicide has given Po some serious trauma that HE OVERCOMES WHICH SHEN IS SHOCKED AND FURIOUS ABOUT IT thus results in him going into a RAGE cutting the ropes and ignoring the cannon falling, also the cannon ended up destroying the whole boat and caused an explosion so he couldn't have escaped due to the INJURY caused BY THE EXPLOSION and he used as much strength he has left as a final attempt at murder, couldn't realized it in time DUE TO HIS RAGE have OVERCOME HIM and becoming HELLBENT in KILLING PO also Shen going into a rage would be obvious since he may be cunning, intelligent and a strong fighter but he's also paranoid and a sociopath over a fortune that he DESTROYED AN ENTIRE VILLAGE, MURDERED PO'S MOM, KILLED ONE OF THE GREATEST KUNG FU MASTERS AND IMPRISONED 2 OF THEM, KILLED HIS OWN PARENTS, USED FIREWORKS AS WEAPONS etc so there you go

@@rometkoemets3669 who you replying to? If it was me yes Shen was injured but he was still fighting perfectly fine so its extremely unlikely his injury caused a problem. Secondly he noticed the cannon coming

@@jammygamer8961 u

let alone in animation, which, since is thought for kids, disregard things like a good villain in favor to make movies "kid friendly"

I honestly hate the 3rd film

@@codybender5332 yeah I felt it was too light. Like part 1 we had Ti Lung who wanted revenge at Shifu and the dragon scroll for himself but he was pretty intimidating. Shen was a much darker villain and threatening to Po and China. I felt that 3 didnt feel that good compared to the first 2 films.

Thai lung was so fucking weak as a villain

Shen is a sequel villain.villains like him had more sense of reality more than all disney villains combined. Dreamworks had the guts to include a dark content like genocide and suicide like shen did.

What abaut Frollo

@@i.r.c3337 Frollo isn't as complex as Shen

@@noeteves5050 They managed to add something dark, like you said genocide, and yet also having it okay for kids to watch.

@@chadpeterson5698 hella cap, his internal conflict and justification for being “better” and “good” when his actions fall further and further into the depths, how he even believes it’s not his own faults that allowed him to become that way but god himself is at fault for allowing human depravity .. Frollo is a TOP TEIR kid’s movie villain.. no contest on that.

Yes

Let's not forget 9:41

Agreed

@@nutsandbolts1264 Oh yeah thas gud

It gives off a sense of raw power and wrath but connected so cunningly its evil

Hans Zimmer has his songs in rising beats...FOR THE EMOTION!!!

*john powell

@@mrdoggo3569 Hans Zimmer also worked on the music in this series.

It’s like the strength of the ark intro

I know

NO WAY MY GUY.

Shen is too dark for Coppa to handle

@@chadpeterson5698 South Park episodes got Coppa'd. You sure?

@@justascarecrow6988 Shen basically committed Genocide

I think it’s most likely due to the fact that this is for entertainment purposes only. Actually Shen probably had his cannon pointed at KZfaq headquarters.

@@jacqueslochs2114 more like Shen has a multitude of canons pointed at the people behind COPPA

Well, he should. He has to let go of all that stuff from the past, because it just doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is who he chooses to be now

Even his jokes are dark and show his inner mental turmoil.

"Spongebob Squarepants" refrence?

10:17 is just the iconic part that almost make you cry

i agrre

Fire Dragon_DK 10:17 was beautiful

@@diegomarquez520 i agree with you

@Derin biri Ah yes that part

Calculative*

“Greetings panda at last we meet! No no no no (does dramatic moves) “we meet at last!” Yes that’s it.”

LMAOOO you aren't wrong!!!

This guy should join the akatsuki

it's ironic cuz what Shen says there is more directed to himself, especially after hearing the truth from the soothsayer about what his parents thought of him.

Kynam Van I realized the similarities between Shen and tai lung: they were both wronged by their father. (Shifu and shen’s unnamed dad). But The difference is Shen was power hungry while tai lung became arrogant from shifu training him.

Shen was the best villain tai lung was the most badass

The reasoning why Kai was shit was because apparently 2 was "Too Dark" so they had to make 3 more kid friendly

I love Kai purely because of the potential for his character. They could have done so much with him, and the proof of that ability is through how amazing Shen was. They peaked at creating Shen. I was actually kind of insulted at what they did with Kai, especially with the overly comical final fight.

Well Kai would have been awesome if it werent for some shitty parents saying that shen was too dark for children

You insolent fool!!🐂

@@dipdop9734 🐂🔨🦚🔪🔪🔪🐊⚔️

Indeed, because the Shenists are rising!

Hmmm, that's explain all of these viruses.

@@thegreatestshenfan6484 LMAO

@@adityabhalekar3506 You know of the Shenists?

@@thegreatestshenfan6484 I've hear of em edit:*heard

Agreed

I think Kai just has too weak of a characterization. All he is is just an angry bull who is still mad at Oogway over his defeat 500 years ago.

Tai Lung was motivated by hard work and dedication. He was destroyed by the belief that hard work can do anything, which is not in and of itself a bad philosophy but without ambition being tempered and understanding that fine line it can lead to a crisis of self when you meet a brick wall. Tai Lung couldn't accept his loss and to a fair extent, it was his father ambition and philosophy that failed him. In Shen the story is reversed. Shen fails his parents with a new philosophy of aggression and his own ambition in his creation, canons, and his willingness to invest in its future at any means possible. Not realizing that on that day he a had a choice between family and creation. Tail Lung made no new path in himself. He trusted his family. Shen did and lost his family trust. In the first one po is tempted by his father pessimism to be a simple noodle merchant but by his own luck-and actions...unintended as they were- he becomes the dragon warrior. With shen story, po finds himself drifting from his family in search of identity much like shen did. For different reasons, but at the core the divergence is there. Both of these characters are also dealing with a loss of family. One taken, one ejected from. My point is. Both of these stories had interconnecting themes and trials. I don't remember the third one at all because at his core Kai was just a bad guy martial artists but for some reason the theme of families were continued-with po village- also they ruined the mysticism of it all by literally turning kung fu into shiny green powers. In 2 inner peace was an exalted state that could be argued just as much within the user as in usage of soul jucii or whatever.

while true Shen and Po's conflict was of the mind, while Kai and Po's was of the spirit

@@draekalloy3673 actually he was mad at oogway for betraying him even when he supported oogway and saved him. Both oogway and him were warlords then, and they would enhance they're power to get revenge on the people who ambushed them. But oogway saw that as breaking the code or something, because he was harming the same pandas who helped them

But Kai's fights were cool

EXACTLY! KFP LOA IS A COMPLETE MOCKERY OF THESE MOVIES!

Right when he escapes po through the window,you can even hear his cry

Y

Peacocks are also a symbol for immortality. In winter they shed their beautiful feathers, making them look dark and sick: but in the spring, they grow back shinier and more beautiful than before. They look almost... reborn.

It's my favorite too. Shen's battle theme I would say the song screams how desperate and relentless Shen was in his final moments against Po

Your past doesnt make who you are its who you choose to be

YashPlayz thanks... Oogway

Feel ya. I had hard times at school too😭😭😭

Which joker!?

he does probably dislike/regret the actions he took but he probably believes the end result will make all he has done worth it. Soothsayer mentions this wont be the case which Shen just doesn't respond to.

...set soothsayer free...she’s no longer of use to me

And I Will Take Mine

Your mom too

"They loved you. They loved you so much, that having to sent you away killed them..."

..."The dead exist in the past and... I must tend to the future...Set the Soothsayer free...She is of no use to me..."

@@orlandolee4438 "goodbye Shen. I wish you happiness..."

@@lilmisstaquera8593 "Happiness MUST be taken! And I will take mine..."

Sorry for the late reply I was at school

before that you saw him quietly looking at the ship wrecks before he suddenly starts breathing heavily just for Po to show up. Shen was probably about to break down

i guess he believed that by stopping all the misery he caused for nothing and that having China would make all he did worth it. Soothsayer saying the cup he chooses to fill has no bottom. I think she was half right, Shen was instead trying to get happiness through power which simply wouldn't work

What’s it about peacocks that you like so much

I already liked peacocks but after shen now I love them (I have a hand fan and now this reminds me him )

reminds me of the veruca salt song from the first charlie and the chocolate factory movie ♪"don't care how, i want it noooowww!!"♪

@@greenfromrainbowfriends1528 lol