He’s also closely watching her table manners! No stonemasons daughter would have the same education and mannerisms as Arya is showing

I think this is where Arya removed any doubt that she's not the low born girl she claimed to be. Unlike Arya, Tywin knows all too well that smallfolk never "eat a lot" as she put it. And if they somehow did, they would certainly never mention it so flippantly in his presence.

@@scottavenged7xAnd that’s why I think she’s not AS smart, she makes many small mistakes.

@@AdamFeueraugewell, she’s still a kid after all lol she’s like 10 here. She’s smart for her age

I think that's also the moment he confirmed that the food wasn't poisoned as well.

His fatherly instincts kicked in.

i think the real issue with tywin is he saw the worst in each of his children in Jaime he can see his fighting skill but not the smarts to use it with Cersei she is just hateful and arrogant with a bit of smarts but too incompetent because of her ego and with Tyrion he sees his ferocity and his intellect but Tyrion also has tywin's vices which i think is what makes him hate Tyrion it isn't the fact he is a dwarf or that his mother died for his birth it's the fact he has the exact same flaws and vices tywin has and tywin doesn't like the fact he has a living reflection of all his quality and defects just a bit shorter it's like tyrion says in the books i am you writ small and it's true he is basically tywin but a dwarf who hasn't' become as cold as tywin yet even tywin admits it internally but will never admit it to Tyrion because he despises faults in himself that tyrion basically broadcasts for people to see

@@lordsathariel4384 Tywin also blames Tyrion for killing his wife during birth. It's not fair, of course but definitely understandable.

Tywin sees himself in Tyrion, but because he is a dwarf, he sees him as a mockery of himself. Like the gods are saying, "look what a small man you are Tywin" . Killing his wife on birth, was the cherry on the poisoned cake.

Tywin is like that manager at your workplace who hates every single part of his job but still does it because he's better at it than anyone else could be and the place would go to complete shit without him around

😂That would have been crazy

🤣🤣🤣

Knives Out

😂😂😂😂

Im totally going to make this alternative universe fanfic.

“You remind me of my daughter.”

she would of made and old man proud as his daughter.

Lol ​@@user-xq1jx2nd7m

​@@user-xq1jx2nd7mbut two things could be true at the same time. You could be smart and also not as smart as you think...the trick is to know what you know and understand what you dont.

@@thediaz07 and that is the lesson. His daughter never learned.

Think of this whenever that work zoom meeting goes on longer than scheduled :D

​@Vik-711 with zoom you can put it in your coffee mug lol

@@rickDArula Ikr xD I'm doing a 24months online course to become a programmer and I absolutely love that I can do whatever the hell I want. Wear no pants, get high, chill in bed. It's almost too comfortable because I've always been a lazy fck and suddenly there's no pressure to keep me going. But I'm still glad that I don't have to commute everyday and waste my time and energy doing so.

@@devanov3103still give all your effort though. Don’t be complacent because it’s convenient. Reach your goals my guy!

Everyone needs a friend, ngrtt. Even tywin. If you can't make a friend with a person, their are always trees.😉

@@Christrulesall2 i piss on trees like a dog

That’s because he was always surrounded by fools. This cupbearer was a refreshing change.

Arya was smarter than his banners, literally she could read better that the generals and that was before she turned into the most deathly assassin on the 7 realms

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

Agreed. I also love the Hound scene when the gaurd asks if he is going to die over a chicken and the Hound takes a long pause and says, someone is. Awesome.

Catlyn "I've know men like you my whole life" Jamie's response almost with sadness in his voice, " There are no other men like me." The dude knows his assignment

My favorite line is “Habit”

@@jmmichael188 You've lived your whole life for the king and now you're gonna die for some chicken ?

agreed. I loved how he took a measuring look at her and summed it up, "You're a sharp little thing, aren't you?"

facts

plus arya and the hound! maisie had incredible chemistry with some of the actors

And yet we got season 8 instead..!

@@wavemaster181 Same people who wrote season 8, wrote this

@@staticcharm3808 back when they had some book material and weren't working on star wars

Yeah it was said that only his wife could make him laugh. Arya did that though. If Arya would have grown up a Lannister he would have most likely made him his heir. They were a lot alike and had a certain kinship.

I like how his laugh is more of a grunt

Uhm she actually said idiots. Mandela effect much? 🤓

Love Tywin's guffaw at Arya's sass. A fatherly moment, to me.

@@lilott1 doubt it, i honestly belive Tywin was like that with Jaime and Cersei when they where young and he was present, but of course kids always grow up and need to know they have responsabilities when that happened Tywin stopped treating them as kids and started treating them as adults. So in my honest belive if Arya had been a Lannister yes they would have gotten along but once she grew up she would have to do as he said and follow his command. Plus when a kid is not yours sometime people tend to enjoy them more.

And that’s y he’s the goat

One son, wouldn't do the same for the other.

I guess he wasn’t a fan of liberal parenting...

Amen!

He also paid a bunch of soldiers to rape his other son's girlfriend

I bet he still fks hard

So do you wana screw him?

Glad he wasn't in the show in the later seasons. Didn't end up debasing himself the way the rest of that excellent cast was forced to.

@@L1Run I really like your take on this. I'd not given it any thought until you wrote that. Thanks!

@@L1Run he died in the most undignified spot imagineable but still died with his character intact wich is more dignefying then those who had there characters frizzle up into nothing

I agree that he for sure thought she was. Which is surprising because he also believes she’s a northerner. Surprised he didn’t have her questioned.

​@Nanobot1989 I think he only didn't let that cross his mind because he assumed Cersei still held Arya at Kings Landing, and Cersei never mentioned she escaped. Had he known that, he wouldve likely instantly knew it was her and had her captured and returned. Lucky for Arya, Cersei's too proud to admit a mistake, and Tywin didn't meet her before, or she'd grown so much she wasn't recognizable

@@kitsunefire1yeah I’ve seen a lot of people complain that Tywin should have known it was Arya. But last he heard, she was in kings landing missing. He also likely had never met arya, so besides uncovering that she is a highborn northerner, there’s no reason for him to believe it was arya. As well as u mentioned that Cersei never told him, because she didn’t want to admit a mistake

Tywin was one of the sharpest minds in that world. I've always held the suspicion that he was well aware of who she was, or at least strongly suspected. It was definitely within his character.

@@diogenesesenna9323 personally that doesnt make sense to me because if he knows arya is who she is, then hes an idiot for letting her go and not taking her with him everywhere to keep an eye on her. because arya would be a very valuable hostage and probably stop robb from attacking. but i dunno, he could, but he also couldnt

If only he had a child who was quick witted, decisive or calculating... Alas his 2 children did not inherit these traits.

@@SuperHongTay I take your point. But Tyrion was tainted in his father's eyes. Saw him as a little monster.

Clearly the perfect child Tywin wished to have came out as 3 living beings. For Tywin it's a curse.

@@SuperHongTay Tyrion could never be that Lannister in his father's eyes for being the reason his wife died. Tyrion's fault regardless of the circumstance that will always be the stain he wears, his outer appearance was just the constant reminder and his undeniable forever affliction. But for him I suppose Tyrion never really saw it that way because of the circumstance, but Tywin's mind would never change. Add Tyrion's hedonistic habits didn't really help lol. Just so happens he was really damn smart and witty, those books aye. Only through the GOT time line did he start to recognize his youngest's abilities in said capacity. But Tywin would never accept him for his true status as his best son.

Tyrion had all those qualities, but Tywin hated him for reasons he had no control over.

this is some of the best scenes original to the show in the whole series. Actually humanizes Tywin quite a bit. He even respects her a bit. She is clever and just trying to get home (half true) and doesn't feel any hostility to her trying to get home. Heck he might even expect she was a member of the Stark household staff at KL but doesn't care.

​@@davidlewis5312KL?

@@M_marks_th3_spot Kings Landing

Yes... chemistry doesn't always mean romance. This is more captivating than any romantic scene in this entire show. Ned and Catlyn were a great couple though, ngl

@@zvezdoblyat I think Jon and Ygritte were amazing too

I've been coming back to these early season scenes. The last few seasons really soured me on the show, as it did many people, but there's a lot of gold in the early seasons. Despite how it ended, it is still a great show.

it's a fantastic scene like many that they added early on because it basically condenses most of the exposition and character development that couldn't really be directly adapted from the books since they had to cut scenes and trim dialogues. The problem with the later seasons is precisely that they stopped writing scenes like these which make it so exposition is either delivered in the most stilted way possible or entirely skipped and character development is just nowhere to be found. That leaves the audience feeling like we have no idea what characters' motivations and feelings are anymore and the larger plot is just a foggy mess beyond the immediate events being shown.

Agreed. This was much better than her interactions with Roose Bolton.

I think this is the best 'off book' contribution to GOT. It really made me wish the scenes had happened in the book.

D&D were really great writers when it came to adapting a story someone else had written. the ending made them a laughingstock but people forget that the first 4 seasons are some of the best adaptations of any source material put to screen. the problem is that they can't plot out a story to save their lives. these intimate moments are where they shine, so long as the big picture is imagined and mapped out by someone else. once they ran out of books and had to start moving the pieces around for themselves, they fell on their faces. of course, this is all GRRM's fault for refusing to finish his goddamn books

Also the deleted scene with maester Pycelle.

Don't forget Lady Olenna.

The saddest thing is Tyrion is the one who came closest to his intellect out of all his kids. Sadly he hated him for something he never actually did.

Now all I can hear is him talking like Scar😂

tyrion was sharp but tywin hated him

1:15 Instant replay

That mini-pause before he says ".... YOU IDIOT!" was hilarious. Perfect delivery. It's like he was a little impressed that Arya had disguised herself, then remembering he had to insult the guard.

Same here 😂😂😂

@@Kncperseus he did that with the follow up of "Smart! More than I can say for this lot..." especially with his expressions 🤣

Charles Dance... actually very similar characterisation as his Benedict in Last Action Hero where he calls his mafia boss "you spaghetti eating twerp" which I dont wonder was improvised by him as I cant imagine an american screenwriter using the word twerp.

Danarys is the big villain though

no @@josephmelton4721

one of the all time greatest things in this show, considering this wasn't even in the books

@@blubberbernd2347 This is honestly what made me hopeful for the rest of the show. If D&D kept up scenes like this throughout the show, instead of basically dumping it out and ditching GRRM, it could have been one of the greatest. Seasons 1-4 will still be remembered though, but its sad.

@@user-pt8xx8bp8uIt's honestly super ironic that the writers created this original dialogue between Arya and Tywin, intricately woven between the scenes of the plot-moving writing to provide more depth to these characters with brilliant writing. It's ironic because DnD could write good nuanced dialogue between two characters that captivated the audience, but could not write a grand closure to the series that seemed consistent with the pacing of the earlier seasons. Also logistically a lot of it didn't make sense either, and a lot was left unanswered. I guess DnD should be criticized more for their laziness and lack of ambition towards closing the series out than they should for their writing ability. Given the time, I think they could write well, but they just gave up

The hatre for tyrion is unjust but he did everything he could for jaime and cersei.

Mind blown...thank you for this

Damn never caught that

Woah, and here I thought he was strangely nice towards her. Thanks for pointing that out 👍🏼

If he respected her as a person why would he kill her? why not get one of the other slaves?

Damnnnnn I never picked up on that!!! Brilliant. Catch!

Lol that was the most light hearted thing Arya has ever said

Honestly it was probably the line that gave away her noble status to Tywin. Other than general speech stuff, being a stone mason's daughter of qutie a young age who's consistently eaten enough to make a statement like that? You can kinda tell that he picks up on it as more than amusement

@@Bloodjen Also when he said his father died of loyalty, it was a dead giveaway. What kind of stonemason died of loyalty and taught his little daughter how to read and history. That's too far-fetched in this setting

That's tyrion too 🤣🤣🤣

@@timy9197it’s a line that really made me realize “oh yeah Arya is still a little girl” and there’s these moments in the show that bring that up because of the brave and smart face she puts on

I always enjoyed that moment because I assume he thought "He's too stupid to realise he's stupid, better drive it home"

This isn't even a reach, you're stretching out to damn Neptune

@@j.p.westwater2334 🤷

The old lion and the she-wolf stare each other down.

@@Crichjo32 no. If that were true, he would have had her killed. it was much more complicated.

@@jv-lk7bc well she was staring at him with a death stare, because she knows who she is and who he is. However he doesn't know who she really is, and may have interpreted it differently. You get the sense he's a bit chilled by her words and stare, but his admiration for her grew.

@@Crichjo32 I also interpret it as Tywin was a bit insulted(But fascinated by it if that makes sense). A commoner refusing to let go of eye contact with a lord is unwise.

That is one part, looking back on it, that shows how cocky tywin can be in his own way. He just heard her admiration for Robb, and the northern host, and then she makes that comment, and he still keeps her around as his cup bearer, knowing full well what she meant by that comment lol

can't say I ever met an 8 year old badass........

LOVED that part!

@@BrendanDormanMMA Have you met many 8 year olds?

@@Solidsnaik careful now, Rob. I enjoy you, but be careful.

For real. She is a baby at this point and yet is incredibly talented.

I don’t think I’ve seen better chemistry between two actors. I love that one is old and one is young. Incredible talent on display.

@@exposett246 this alone tells me youve never been drunk

Omg how breathtaking is it? It’s almost like it’s her job and the reason she got hired to play such a major role. Crazy

@@Ozzie-OH-OH isn't it obvious? Charles Dance is obviously a very experienced actor, while this is Maisie's first major role ever. The fact she could keep up with someone like Charles Dance like this is a sign of insane talent.

"Why is he such an awesome grandfather when he was such an awful father?" -bart simpson

Had he married Olenna, Westeros would not have had a chance.

Cersei is intelligent no doubt, but her cruel nature often overpowers her ability to think

@@-THE_META Can you imagine the monster they'd raise together? Cunning, intelligent, disciplined.

@@anirudhsilverking5761 so true. He cruel nature caused her downfall

That was beautiful! (Slow clap) 👏👏

I kind of feel the opposite. He's Tywin God Damn Lannister. He can't talk respectfully and openly with anyone important, he always has to be playing the game. The feeling I get from these scenes is that he enjoys having small human moments with someone, and that someone has to be a lowly cup-bearer because there's no-one else.

@@pavarottiaardvark3431 He'll look weak in front of his bannerman if he spoke like a human instead of an invincible machine to them after all his power is based on fear

I wouldn't say he respects her, but he enjoys her. A little tit-for-tat. He's playing a game, letting her think he is fooled by her "I'm just a commoner from the North" game. And instead of freaking out and crying when she gets busted for her act, she continues playing. I suppose because the moment he thinks he's "won" (pointing out her obvious lie about being a commoner) she knows that she is winning -- even as recognizing she's high born, he doesn't realize she's the Stark girl he's searching for! The Stark girl he could use to take the North.

He has nothing to gain from her and has no expectations for how she should act and I think that’s why he’s the most genuine with her. It’s actually out of character for Tywin to leave her the way he does given how sharp she is, but it would make a small book deviation huge for him to do that. I also think he understood on some level that she wanted to remain unnoticed and respected that, even if he didn’t know why. Best scenes in season two in my opinion

@@koolaidman6251 was reading your comment and just thought What if Tywin knew who she was Probably not canon but would be cool like his sort of atonement or smth

best dynamics absolutely, but 'relaxed' isn't quite the right word. Neither of them was capable of ever being completely relaxed. 'comfortable' would be closer. the fact that they shared that and so many other characteristics made for a precious sliver of comeraderie which neither had with anyone else.

This! What always surprised me about their interactions with each other was the fact that Tywin spoke to her of unguarded thoughts that he could not or would not share with anyone else. He recognized her breeding,intelligence and the lengths she would go to stay alive and was intrigued enough to open up to her and give her some of his hard fought wisdom. Life made Tywin hard, but he could relax enough with Arya to be a grandfatherly influence. As long as he kept an eye on her she was safe. Would Arya have killed him if the opportunity arose? I wonder.

I'd argue that these scenes were some of the most tense in the series given the consequences of either Arya letting slip her true identity. It was hard to tell how close he was to figuring it out and every time she overstepped the tension rose further. Not to mention the undercurrent of her looking for an opportunity to kill him

Thats was im saying, they had amazing potential to shift the whole show to them being frienemies. That would be fun to watch

I'm convinced that he knew she was high born just that he has lots of bigger things to attend to, to give it much thought

Pretty surr he knew, but didnt know which house, he wasnt thinking it would be a stark more likely a minor house of the north still a noble one

I always thought he knew but assumed that she was from a very small noble house. Or maybe a high ranking servant’s daughter.

Tywin probably asked her that on purpose to see what she would say.

"I eat a lot, I just don't grow" was just part of the cover. It was not proper etiquette to ever let on to a Lord, or anyone else really, how poor you were. It can be interpreted as ingratitude, or just be looked upon snobbishly in a classist way. It was common (and still is) for peasants to act richer and better fed than they are. Not really fed nowadays as most people are well-fed. But now people do it with flashy cars they can't afford. I heard of a guy who lived in a village in Africa, working for the Peace Corps, who said he knew a family that bought expensive vegetables nobody in the family actually liked just so they could avoid the perception of being poor.

Because they have similiar features.

Arya vs Tywin and the Hound when all she has are her wits were her best scenes. Emo faceless assassin Arya was just annoying.

I always thought they nailed strong female roles in the show. It can be hard to get right without it seeming patronizing.

"Hah! You remind me of my daughter" I wonder if this was the first time we see Tywin joyful. Does anyone know?

@@derfderf0 because arya is at her best when she interacts with other characters around her, in the books she's constantly making friends with braavosi people while training with faceless men, the show never understood her character - idk why she's constantly wearing that smug self satisfied smirk

Yeh but dragons

Wym cgi dragons, u want real dragons? LMAO

Agreed

During that time most girls were idiots. But I guess that’s because of lack of education

And also Tywin's calm, friendly tone when he said ''Now, go on'' sounded just like a father would say to his child.

This isn't from the books though. They made this bit up themselves.

@Damien Thorne feeling stupid now hmm? :D

@@pavarottiaardvark3431 even so, the books guided them. The writers of this show excelled when - and only when - they had material to work from. Once it was gone, they completely lost their way.

@@MrSameion Well they're not wrong. Somehow the quality just bleeded into stuff, that diverged from the source material. Suppose them having to follow the broader plot of the books meant that changes they'd make had to organically bounce off from that and rest is just down to actors across the line being solid as fvck.

@@MrSameion ? This fits with exactly what he said lmao. He didn't say it was copying the books. If they were copying the books, it wouldn't be worth praise. The show did a fantastic job at individual scenes and pieces of dialogue. It did a terrible job at overarching plot. When it had an overarching plot to follow from the books, it did an incredible job fitting original scenes like this into it.

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like... in 25 years? xD

you mean after S4

@@kool4209 nahhh s5-s6 were still good

lmfao explain. @@BaggedBread

I actually thought of that. Arya ate like a commoner (coz she was starving) but the part where tywin handed her the utensils. She took the knife with finess.

I figured he suspected his food was poisoned, or suspected she knew it might be and wanted to gauge her reaction. But your theory ties together better I think.

he could teach tyrion everything, he just rejected him. You people are idolizing his character because you're simply taken away by his charisma. He bewitched your mind with his acting hahaha.

Cersei and Tyrion are not stupid and inherrited and learned a lot from him. But they didn't agreed with him on everything. They weren't willing to dismiss their personal needs only for a legacy. They disappointed him at 40+ adult not as children. He compares Arya to Cersei with a positive intention. He very likely wasn't disappointed with them as children. He is also very likely someone you can never ever statistify and he will always criticse you for pushing more forward.

My take is that Tywin had expectations of of his own children, but Arya is a pleasant surprise. That's why he's able to have such great interactions with her. Tyrion was deformed (in his mind) and Jaime wasn't smart enough and Cersei's cruelty takes precedence over her intelligence.

like Iroh and Toph?

@@saudude2174 well we appreciate a good and well written villain with just as many redeeming qualities as ones that make us hate him. But I agree, his disdain for Tyrion was his greatest weakness, and had he only embraced him; they would have washed everything and won. He knew Tyrion didn't kill Joffery, but saw it as his opportunity to get rid of him. Which honestly boils down to pride. Jamie was the ideal son, but was a bit of an idiot, he couldn't stand the idea of Tyrion being the one to carry the Lannister name.

Yup. This was the show at its peak. Good thing Charles Dance's character died before he could live long enough to watch everything become a clown college.

That little smirk sells it. Yes, she's been told. No, she doesn't worry about it.

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The "Yes" was for the question "has anyone ever told you that?"

It's just masterful writing. I love it. Such depth to characters that you can't just write any of them off. Even as despicable as Joffery was, when Margery came into the picture he suddenly became the manipulated one. God I would kill for this to have been properly completed by RR Martin.

The only real evil in this story are the Boltons and *maybe* the Night King. The rest are antiheroes. Not even many of the horselords.

​@@PRubin-rh4sr and the Mountain

The mouthful of food makes it 😂❤

So cute

She gave herself away as not a commoner though

You can tell she wants to be bigger because she's such a tomboy. She sounds as though she ruminates on it often... perhaps even over eating in an attempt to grow! Haha.

@@zerjiozerjio but she lived when there was food. Not during the time mothers smothered their babies because it was ‘winter’….

I think he believes she's the daughter of Lord Dustin, that reaction he had to her saying her family served House Dustin and was able to list off everything he had asked for.

There’s also the fact that Tywin plays the long game. He knows she noble northern born but not sure which family. No matter what family she’s from if her family is killed and she’s alive and remembers that he was “kind” she would be the one in control of the noble house and would be able to help spread the word that the Lannisters are kind and merciful once Robb Stark is killed. He wasn’t banking on her being Arya. Arya was dead. He needed more of an in to the north than just Sansa, he needed nobles coming home singing his family’s praises so they would willingly switch to his side

It’s so crazy that such a valuable hostage was right under his nose for weeks and he had no idea. Was Jaime captured at this time? If so, this was his golden bargaining chip and she’s just filling cups and clearing plates. Obviously this is fiction but makes you realize in the world before social media (any media, actually) , it would be so much easier to hide/get away with things. Everyone may know your name but few have ever seen your face

@@lindsay9838 Jaime was a captive at this time

I like to think he suspected it, or at least was one of the possibilities crossing his mind. The look on his face when Arya talked about her father, as if he could acknowledge the pros of Ned as a family man in the way one can respect a formidable enemy. Also, why would one of Robb’s banner-men bring his daughter down south to war? The number of northern noble girls down south must have been pretty limited at that time. I guess if he considered the possibility, he preferred to have her close so he could better keep an eye on her himself. Although I’m assuming Tywin was aware of Arya being a fugitive, which I don’t remember if it was the case.

It also foreshadows when he speaks with Tommen about what makes a good king. reference: /watch?v=doY0IjisBlk

Kind of reminds of how it’s stated somewhere that Cersei believes Tywin doesn’t respect/trust her with power because she’s a woman, when in fact it’s because he recognises that she simply isn’t intelligent/ competent enough to wield it

It’s been a while but wasn’t Bronn knighted by Tywins orders? You could argue it was a power play to give Bronn less reasons to stand up for Tyrion but Bronn was very competent at defending Kings Landing in the Battle of Blackwater. Showing how Tywin values competent people.

Him and the actress that played Cersei were an absolute treat for me acting wise. Such perfection and elegance in their tone, and facial expressions and mannerisms as they delivered lines was everything!

He's in the new Netflix series The Sandman. I'd recommend it. He's not in it very long but perfect casting !

You mean Tywin Lannister was a near perfect casting for Charles Dance?! (xD)

All the Lannisters were perfectly casted

@Jermy Wermy but can you imagine someone else being so fucking good at it

I agree. I would have loved for him to have lived and then meet the new improved Arya and find out she was a Stark.

I think that he believed that she was the daughter of Lord Dustin, a minor lord whose daughter's capture wouldn't really make much of a difference to the war. He clearly doubted that her father was a stonemason and her mother a servant to Lady Dustin. He didn't believe she was low born because of how well she spoke, my lord instead of m'lord, nor did he seem to believe her explanation of her mother teaching her to speak "proper...properly."

He knew she was of Noble heritage.

It was odd but made for such great scenes. And Maisie did such an amazing job keeping up with Charles, for how young she was and new at acting. I love that even though these two seem to actually enjoy conversing because they’re both intelligent and not gross (she’s been with only men for a while, most of them either dirty, cruel, or vulgar so his company was probably a weird relief), they would’ve turned on each other in a nanosecond if the opportunity presented itself. Like the scene with the knife, even during a casual chat, she never lost sight that he was at war with her family and looked for any opening to help them. And she would’ve been the perfect hostage to get Jaime back. He would have her tortured without a second thought until his son was home, had he realized who was sitting across from him.

I think I prefer how he never knew who she really were

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He can relax a bit with her, as he doesn't play the game with her. Every character he meets has an agenda or he needs to project power. With a little girl he doesn't need to be careful as much, she's just an anonimous person with no real importance.

This and his talk with Tommen. Though the fact it was in front of Joffrey's corpse was weird.

@@alexk6343 Yes. He very much needed someone like this in his life, someone he could relax his guard with and even talk casually about his family. The conversations of these two are my favorite scenes in the whole saga. Small, quiet, and clever.

He was very likely not like this with his children when younger. Strict yes, but he said you remind me of my daughter in a praising way. They disappointed him as adults not children. And many wouldn't be willing to sacrife their personal happiniess only for a legacy. I doubt Arya would have.

@@kursor52 He also put his hand on Tommens eyes when Joffrey had been dying. He had to take Tommen away before Cersei gives him wrong ideas and to put her in place. Quite cod hearted but that is how he is. Duty over feelings for the sake of the Lannister Legacy. However in the end he overdid it and it led to opposite. But this a quite common fate for many GoT characters.

To be fair, it wasn't personal. And it wasn't like Arya did not do the same later on. She was his finest pupil. Even enemies can respect one another, admire one another, and even love one another.

He was one of the few characters that I’ve seen pull off the “lawful evil” character alignment so well.

Ruthless and cruel are two very different things, Tywin is ruthless without being cruel

mentor is too strong a word.

He cant help himself, his instincts are to talk and pass his insight to everyone who shows promise. He is frustrated so much by his bannermen and children it's a miracle he is not just pick random people and having them listen to him!

He cant help himself, his instincts are to talk and pass his insight to everyone who shows promise. He is frustrated so much by his bannermen and children it's a miracle he is not just pick random people and having them listen to him!

i think all his kindess towards arya served two purposes. when he first met arya, he was definitely impressed by her wit and had her work as his cup bearer. but when arya slipped up by not knowing her pretend house's banner, he realized she was faking an identity. later on when she picked up the book before he told her where it was, i think that's when he knew she might have been a highborn. and then finally, the food bit. while yes, it was a gesture of kindness, it let him be alone with arya and also let him poke her some more to see if she really is highborn. it lets him see her table manner and hear her manner of speech without having anything to get in the way. and i think thats exactly what happened when he corrects her pronunciation of "my lord". he heard that and all the pieces fell in place for him. too bad he didnt realize it was arya lol

LMFAO

Exactly.

If its poisoned, hes saved. If its not, he just fed a little girl. Win-win for TyWIN.

For real. Seems like the writers just fell off a cliff

Ned Stark killed an innocent peasant despite telling the truth in the very beginning. He also supported his friend Robert Baratheon while the Targaryen children should have been the rightful successors of the throne. GoT is fantasy but it is a universe like in realistic medival times and realstic portray of humans and not plain black and white we are way too used to. There are very few characters in GoT which are 100% villians like Joffrey, Roose and Ramsey Bolton and the nightking. You could pprtray the story of Tywin in his favor. His family story is kinda tragic.

@@kidaria1333 The Targaryens lost their rights to the throne when Daenerys' father started burning people for fun. He wasn't called the Mad King for nothing. When Robert claimed the Crown, he took it by right of conquest After that the Targaryens were pretenders at best, there is no rightful heir to the throne

@@ASillyHistoryBuff They didn't lost anything. Moral has nothing to do with how aristocratic inheritance law and geopolitics works. And a child cannot be taken responsible for the behavior of the father. They should have arrested the mad king and get the oldest child in power. It was very stupid behavior of both Reghar Targaryen and Robert Baratheon to cause a war because Lyanna (but of course Rhegar the most). Yet if Robert Stark truely would be a 100% men of right and honour he wouldn't have supported Robert in getting after the life of Targaryen children.

@@kidaria1333 It isn't to do with morality By the laws of feudal contract, there are certain expectations from a king or queen, including justice, fair government and protection for his/her subjects Aerys violated it in every way: he arbitrarily ignored the law for example during Brandon starks 'trial by combat' by burning Lord Rickard Stark. Aerys mismanaged the realm after he dismissed Tywin, routinely violating the rights and customs of his subjects, for example trying to spite Lord Tywin by naming his heir apparent to the kingsguard- alienating and antagonising one of the most powerful vassals in the realm. Finally, Aerys torture and murder of subjects by burning them to death with wildfire made him a tyrant. By his own actions he effectively dug his own grave. And forfeited his right to the crown, along with the rights of his children. The Targaryen children have a claim to the throne but its one of many You forget, Robert Baratheon has Targaryen blood through his grandmother, hence how he is able to usurp the throne. The throne belongs to the person who rules the realm justly yet firmly with a strong hand. Aerys was not strong or wise, but a weak, jealous King

Agreed. These were the scenes that got me hooked on the show, which led me to read the books.

"My brother has his sword, and I have my mind. And a mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone."

“You will marry Night King and that will be the end of it” said Tywin to Cersei calmly.

I wonder if Tywin would have ever sen Night King and his White Walkers, not to mention wights, would he still maintain his cold and astute demeanour? I believe he would be scared

@@dominykasrudokas4034 I don't know about that for certain. But if it did, he'd make every effort not to make it visible.

It isn’t necessarily his fault I blame the Targaryens, he was perhaps the most loyal and he was treated like absolute shit and a joke they delve more into the books

He was always suspicious

I don’t know if he knew she was a Stark he could’ve used her against Robb but He obviously figured out she wasn’t who she said she was and was from some noble northern family

@@mysteryjunkie9808 Well, just because she posed as a lowborn and was discovered not to be, doesn't mean she is noble. There may be a few classes in between.

He used the comparison to Cersei in a praising way. His children disappointed him as 40+ adults not as children. He very likely wasn't disappointed with them as children. He is also very likely someone you can never ever statistify and he will always criticse you for pushing more forward. Also if people would do their research on the character they would know why he is like he is and even form this scenes it should be obvious: his father was nice but a fool and people laughed at him with disrespect and he nearly ruined house Lannister. It is also very likely he would cursh with Arya because I doubt she would follow everything only of the sake of a legacy. The big question is more how he was when is wife still lived and if he would have been that ignorant to his children emotional need ifshe hand't died.

In her youth, Cersei was like a tomboy. Wanted to be a knight, just like Jaime.. But Tywin didn't allow it

@@Patrickbatemanharvard Yeah, but how does Arya feel about being compared to the woman involved in her father and his men's death?

@@hansolobutimdead she felt honored

@@gottago1885 Ah yes, I would too feel honoured if someone told me I was just like the person second on my hitlist

Disagree on the irrelevance part. Tyrion is still around and there are millions of Lannister cousins.

I thought u were gonna talk about the show, how it was the best and now a blasted ruin😂.

No the house is still around and he accepted Tyrion in birthtright. If not he would have killed him like he once said and wouldn't let live the luxury life he lived with Lannister money. He challanged him but he also gave him opportunities which he most of the time ruined. He also never plant to kill him what Tyrion didn't know though.

Somewhere in a beautiful place out in the country

@@Joker129 Nope because the ending was good if you undertsood the themes and characters of the show.

I really wouldn't say his bad side, because that's what required in that era. Even the net Stark is a perfect character of a nice person; however, people like them win survive the game. So Tywin had to be like that because of the survival of him and his family.

@@anenglishmanplusamerican7107 agreed

Good and bad are relative.

He's a bad guy depending on the side you choose. In my opinion he's a winner and legend.

@@nikssu His not a bad guy He knows how to survive in westeros and how to maintain power I do agree when you say his a winner When i say bad guy which is wrong his not, he is capeble of doing what needs to be done like being feared cruel to other houses and ruthless to keep the family alive and to keep their power

I would like to learn history from him :) or at the very least, just listen to him tell stories over a meal. He has that kind of voice and underlying charisma that makes you want to keep listening - kinda like Morgan Freeman and Sam Elliot

@@myladynaynay I actually had a history teacher who was very much like him. Not quite the same gravitas but he was a well-spoken, severe older gentleman who stayed sharp with constant study and travel. Very memorable experience.

What if he wanted to tap dat

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Yes I do too...they had such a powerful dynamic. I think he knew when they had the conversation about Her Father and His Father. "What killed him... Loyalty... you're a sharp one" I definitely am in agreement. I think he knew it was Arya.

I never even considered that idea...

Nah that is not tywin lol

Me too. Arya’s smart but Tywin’s smarter, with decades of experience in reading people. Little clues kept giving her away and she didn’t even realize it. If he did figure out who she really was he may have seen her as a potential bargaining chip, albeit one whose company he truly enjoyed. Maybe he thought if she didn’t know that he knew, she’d be more manageable. He obviously hadn’t known her long enough to know better. 😄

I disagree. I think this was one of the great subtleties of the series. Review the tape. "A man just tried to poison me, I want his head". "Your supper sir." You eat it. No, I eat later as a servant. No. You will eat as I watch. Arya became Tywinn's food taster. Tywinn, who believed that an expert assassin just tried to poison him. He then orders his servant (a 12 year old girl) to eat in front of him as he watches to see if a poison takes effect. He has never asked this 12 year old girl to eat food until someone tried to poison him. Tywinn, genius Machiavellian, used Arya as his food taster, to watch if she was poisoned. Tywinn, was watching a 12 year old girl to see if she was poisoned. (Little did he know that she was responsible for the poisoning and the target was the man who was actually poisoned). Watch that scene again, include Tywinn chastising the Mountain, then watch Tywinn watching a little girl eat to see if his food was poisoned. If Tywinn hated mutton, he would have told the cook. This was Tywinn at his most genius and cruel.

@@mikeburke7053 i like how you explain basic things in a very detailed and thorough manner to the people in the comments. They seem to need it

@@mikeburke7053 She is expendable to him incase of a potential poisoning, sure, of course. yet he also seems to genuinely enjoy her company and their gamesmanship conversation.

@@Baratheon. Sure, he enjoyed the conversation. As a matter of fact the only time Tywinn laughed during the entire series was with Arya. "You remind me of my daughter". He was impressed with her and thought her smarter than most of his staff. He also seemed to like verbally sparring with her, until he thought she crossed the line. But in his mind she was simply the daughter of a lower unimportant Northern Lord, or perhaps even a bast+rd, not someone important enough to ransom or use as a tool of war/politics. She fooled him in that regard as she was actually one of the most valuable children in all the seven kingdoms. But that does not change the fact that he was willing to poison her and watch her die, using a child as a shield in case someone was trying to poison him again through his food. That's cruel and perhaps one of the most immoral acts of the series, but genius, as she did not guess the real reasoning of why he ordered (not "invited", ordered, he did not accept her refusal) her to eat in front of him. Perhaps his action was even worse because he actually liked the innocent child he was willing to poison.

@@mikeburke7053 Yeah, basically what i'm trying to say is Tywin has never been hand-rubbingly evil like a cartoon villain. He's willing to dispose of anyone to further House Lannister, except his heir, Jaime. Despite being fond of her, this girl is dispensable if it saves him from poisoning.

He isn't really too fond of kids who eat a lot, yet do not grow, though.

@@Dickie6990 That's why you will never be his child

He had that in Tyrion but didn’t nurture him. Ned was just a better dad than Tywin

@@lilze Much better. There’s zero doubt Ned was the best father figure in the entire series. All of the children he raised (which includes Jon Snow and Theon Greyjoy even though not his children by blood) loved, respected and admired him greatly. And the lessons he taught them played a huge role in their own character arcs. Most of the other Lords were terrible fathers (albeit in different ways) - Tywin, Robert Baratheon, Stannis Baratheon, Randyll Tarly, Walder Frey, Roose Bolton, etc. The only other Lords who might be somewhat decent as a father and show their children love and compassion from what we saw was Mace Tyrell and Oberyn Martell.

Yea, he secretly mentioned of his disappointment of their child thou. At least we can feel it :D

Season 8 doesn't exist, it's ALL a figment of our imagination.

@@jarrequevandermerwe3948 There’s a season 8?

It's also monumentally stupid to have the character that traveled the world and saw more of it than anyone else speak like some idiot who never once left the house they grew up in. Sansa's the one who was betrayed by so many she thought could be trusted, she's the one most likely to distrust and dismiss strangesr. Arya would find shit out, not just assume. But since D&D decided who would say what by spinning a wheel or some shit all characters are interchangeable

What was that even about? Lol it didn't make sense, she literally asked if he knew stonemasons

@@ripvanwinkler1548 its called subtext. She was basically calling him out of touch. Saying that as a Lord how the bloody hell would he know if the average stonemason could read or not.

Tywin did. It was mentioned the books the moment they met. “Talk like marbles in your mouth”

Indeed. And Tywin is known by his cruelty but he ignored Arya's position willingly. Perhaps his only weakness caused him the biggest trouble in long run but he respected the intelligence. Very sharp point in here..

He 100% knew Arya was a noble born

I take it as a strong hint that he EXPLICITLY told her that he knows IN THIS VIDEO at 9:45

Its from a book like all great tv shows and when the book ended the show tried to do its own thing and thats the disaster you see in seasons 5-8

Season 5 was actually still based on the books but you could tell they were starting to run out of material. Jon’s death is where the books have been for a decade so season 6-8 is when they started making stuff up

@@Betroid I read somewhere this whole conversations between Arya and tywin are not from the books, and many more too which proves show was in better hands before 6th season, from books or not.

@@ajaydeshmukh4317 Yeah it isnt in the novels. She is the cup bearer for Roose Bolton instead, iirc.

@@ajaydeshmukh4317 Yeah this is true. The problem mainly was with the writers that around season 7/8 they began working on the star wars movies so they rushed game of thrones in order to focus on it. Especially season 8, as they were told by george r.r martin that they could do 10 seasons but instead they put 2/3 seasons worth of character developement in about 2 episodes and rushes way too much