sorry, she was cursed with WRATH at birth?? that's just like. sentience.

"the only way to get out of an abusive situation is getting married to a man. a very old man." LMAO????

I wonder if Rachel had some issues with her mother and projected it onto Demeter because the Demeter slander in this comic was unbelievable.

That ending sucks. You can tell they gave up on the plot a long time ago.

My reaction was ‘It’s over? Good riddance.’

A "feminist retelling" is annoying as hell because it literally isn't feminist if you strip it down.... it was so disappointing; Like what part of this woman's whole life obsessing over a man is feminist? Is it because she cuts her hair short??????? THEY COULDNT EVEN ACCESS THEIR FULL POWERS WITHOUT A MAN WTF RAECHEL!!!!

I'll never forgive what they do to Ares. He's the least problematic god, never SA anyone, the father of the amazonas and true lover of Aphrodite. And they make him a sexist creeper who make Aphrodite miserable???? Really it's seems the creator didn't MAKE ANY RESEARCH

The problemly with modern tellings of the Story of Spring is that they focuses on Hades and Persephone as a romantic couple. But the original myth isn't really about them, it is about Demeter being forced to watch as the men in her life treat her daughter as a bargaining chip. It is a story that countless mothers had to live through across history.

It will never not be weird to see Webtoon comics that were advertised on here SO heavy a couple years back are now falling off hard.

I’m Greek and I have to say I hate what they did to persephone’s mother. When I first heard the story in history class I loved it. I saw it as a grown man taking a girl manipulating her and her mother is trying her best to protect her but no they made her into the bad guy here like I hate it😭 Edit: another thing, I just realised is they call it “a feminist retailing” and it’s the furthest thing from that the original story is much more feminist than this thing It reminds me of how they tried to rewrite Frankenstein, the modern Prometheus into “a feminist retailing” as well and it ended up being extremely misogynistic (yes, I’m talking about poor things) when the original story was extremely feminist on its own Like bro, it was literally written by a woman😭

I also was kind of upset that Rachel made it seem like persephone's hair was some important character thing and just dropped the ball by the 2nd season and it's not explained further about her (RADICALLY) different hairstyles in the later seasons. last big scene she's in has a gorgeous long hair style, next one is a pixie cut with no warning, and then back to long! if it's to show passage of time, there are better ways of doing that.

as much as i dislike this comic hearing "i dont like how hades is her love interest, hes creepy" is fucking funny considering that they are a real couple in Greek mythology, Lore Olympus just did a shitty ass job portraying them

Rachel CANNOT draw side profiles on her male characters

Her wrath eyes make her look mega-stoned.

I stopped reading shortly after the SA scene because it felt like such a disgusting use of SA, it was literally used as a way to justify Hades being the main love interest because at least he wasn’t a abuser. As a fan of Greek mythology I was also horrified by how much they villainized the infamously bisexual god Apollo… in general this comic is just really gross ethically and kind of bastardizes Greek mythology, I hope people don’t take this as cannon mythology.

I hate how the comic was advertized as a sort of feminist retelling when it's fuking not it's almost like a love letter to misogyny: - Glamorization of innocence and naivety and thus objectifying Persephone because of it. Because she's so unaware of how attractive and "sexy" she was (which was kind of the message I got when we saw Hades's POV and even Hares). Quite litterally the embodiment of born sexy yesterday. - Slutshaming characters like Minthe, Aphrodite mainly. - Putting women against each others for petty reasons like how Aphrodite got mad one of the three gods, frogot who, said Persephone was prettier than her (I know it's like an acutal thing that in the myth Aphrodite doesn't like being called second prettier to someone but I mean c'mon she's beefing with a 19y old and best thing to do to get back at the person who didn't do anything is to get her wasted). - Characters focusing their blame on the wrong person, or just yk the author putting most of the things on poor Demeter who was literally looking out for her child who was barely and adult and had very valid reasons for her to no want to marry a man who was to be in his 40's (He's like 2000y old but most theorize he'd be there). - Romantisation of grooming because a relationship between a 19y old and a 40y old is gonna be a huge power dynamic and imbalance. - Making most of the female characters fight over a man. - Very poor handeling of heavy topics like the SA of Persephone now I'm not saying the depiction of it when it happen wasn't clever it was actually beautifully sad. However it's how it was handled afterwards that bugs me, yes people can feel shame after such a traumatic experience and thus is why they wouldn't want to talk about it. But it confuses me why Eros ( whomst fucking turned into a background character ) didn't tell anybody or even Artemis because we saw many times Persephone trying to subtly bring up the subject but everytime the plot was like nu-uh. And the end of it being like "you're gonna tell everything because of magic or whatever" just felt so rushed. Also it bug me that Persephone just kinda became dick-obsessed while she was stuck in the mortal realm ? Like it felt so sudden and at first I wondered if her trauma cause her to be hypersexual but it didn't feel like it was the case here. I also doubt Rachel would actually give that kind of debts to Persephone plus she already slut shames characters who have a sexuality because they want to so imagine how poorly handled it could've been if it was hypersexuality. I think that's most of what I could remember from the comic which I haven't read after the trial because I was so over it back then

Ok I am mad of all the missing plotline. I was interested to see how Persphone deal with the aftermath of the assualt. Like you can't just brush off SA. Agree with minthe comment

actually i could see the apollo being zeus' son reveal being shocking since all the male characters have the same face

I actually hate how Rachelle writes every single god and goddess they really feel not like themselves, and she really doesn't know shit about the gods she writing, not of their duties, or their qualitys, like screamed of rage with Thanatos portraing I was already mad with Demeter and Apollo's character assesination but Thanatos, WHY IS HE TOUCHING PEOPLE one of his main qualities was the fact that if he touches anyone, god or mortal, they die, because he have the power to even kill gods forever, that's why his wife Macaria is a Dead Goddess, god damn it I hate every single character in this comic I swear

I hate how it's said to be a feminist retelling but so many women were unnecessarily portrayed in a villainous way just because they caused a threat to the relationship of hades and persephone. (hera, minthe, leuce, thetis, demeter and probably more) Not that women have to be heroic all the time for it to be feminist, I actually think a well written character has to have negative characteristics as well, but most of it felt so random. Especially when there's a literal rapist in the story that should be considered the biggest threat. (I also hate how Zeus was used as a comedic relief chracter)

i honestly stopped supporting it when she got mad that a fan cosplayed as Minthe instead of Persephone which i wouldn't be surprised if it was some sort of self insert due to her reaction. just gave me off vibes in general which im glad i made that decision ;b

The artstyle carried the webtoon, let’s be honest. It may not be your preference, but the colour scheme and how everything was so cutesy and pretty with some nice contrast when darker things happened helped tremendously to keep this afloat

They did my girl Demeter SO dirty. It is so incredibly ironic and infuriating how so many #girlpower "faminism" retellings often villainise her mother while painting her kidnapper in a favourable light.

I stopped reading some time when Leuce came back. Fun fact! In the original myths she WASN’T just another copy and paste of Minthe. Sure,she was still a mistress to Hades but in general she had a different ending to her story. In one of them she actually dies and Hades gets to turn her into a tree. THAT could’ve been interesting…Persephone teaching Hades him an important part of her,and using it to immortalize someone. INSTEAD,Rachel adds her in JUST to make Persephone look stronger,despite the fact she literally broke into some random nymph’s apartment (if I remember correctly). I’m pretty sure that’s when I fully stopped reading the comic because it was so embarrassing to read Rachel’s incompetence as a writer. How I would’ve written her INSTEAD would’ve been for her to be an unknowing innocent and naive person,just like Persephone once was during the earlier chapters. And she technically does have a fling with Hades,but he was instead under Kronos’ control (or he could’ve just been conscious the whole time,idk,either one works kinda). She tries reconnecting with Hades but instead runs into Persephone. Obviously she isn’t aware that Hades and Persephone are together at this point so she’s a little dismissive. And when Persephone ACTUALLY gets to talk to her in a PEACEFUL manner…Leuce apologizes,and explains her side of the story,WITHOUT Persephone interrupting her. That is what I genuinely wish would’ve happened.

The sucky part is looking back and recognizing this Mary Sue-esc personality given to her, she had a point where she was a little interesting, but then... Also, to me, her SA ended up being irrelevant a lot of the time and with LITTLE agency, and begins to feel more like either as a stepping stone for her and Hades' relationship, or a plot point to make her character more interesting for her lacking a lot as a character. It sucks because I waited SO LONG to see her speak up and tell her story despite the odds, I sincerely thought she was going to have a moment of bravery and coming forward despite it...and hopefully have other potential victims of Apollo come forward. But NOPE, have the r**ist come forward about it, because that way she wins, everyone wins, right? But that NOT what happens in real time, abusers don't just come forward like that on this kind of act. Also dude gets a slap on the wrist in the end after EVERYTHING, so...what kind of message is taught here...? Overall, it could have been something meaningful, until it got drowned in the fluff and romance, a plot point like this can be used for romances, but don't turn it into whatever Lore Olympus did here, do better if you are a writer planning to put SA in.

Cursed Princess Club was amazing! Wish it was more popular.

i didnt even process that they changed demeter creating winter to persephone creating winter and much of a wasted opportunity that is. Imagine how impactful it would have been if all the times Demeter was ignored it wasintentionally written that way and if it was something the readers could go back and see the setup and be like "Oh wow! I never noticed how ignored she was! In hindsight her going apeshit makes sense!". Imagine if Demeter got consumed by grief and sorrow which was amplified by her fertility powers and she got stuck in a slumber (kind of like how its shown Persephone did in episode 129) while surrounded by walls of ice and other stuff. Imagine like the tension of the other gods being like "shit. somethings happening in the mortal realm. What the fuck. I've never seen something like this before" or maybe theres an influx of souls in the underworld. I think itd be cool if it was introduced because a character accuses Hades of doing it and that's how Persephone and Hades find out about how bad it's going in the mortal realm. I'm just imagining what a good cliff hanger it'd be if after a few episodes of the characters investigating different gods and trying to find a cause, there was a cliff hanger that ended with "There's only one person left. Demeter" AND THEN THE READERS (who. supposedly dont know basic greek mythology/hj) COULD BE LIKE "OHHHHHHHHH THAT'S WHY SHE HASNT SHOWN UP IN 10 EPISODES". And then the finale or like final arc could be Persephone trying to reach demeter. Maybe like, in the snow, there's different obstacles and challenges that are supposed to mirror interactions or fights they've had in the past and Persephone can reflect on them and it can hint to the readers Persephone's at the center of Demeter's grief. Maybe as they keep going, characters that were travelling with them can't follow anymore because it's too hard or they get blocked off and even Hades himself gets blocked off eventually the closer they get to Demeter's body and Persephone's the only one left who can reach her and they have a heart to heart and Persephone through the obstacles and self reflection realises how isolated her mother's been feeling and idk instead of the therapy episode, we get this. They both open up and apologise to eachother and maybe Demeter opens more on her past trauma and how that affected her and reveals she's the secret fertility goddess and she did everything she did (even wrong things sometimes) because she was terrified of people finding out persephone's true power and abusing it. And the two reconcile and create spring and boom, the arrangement in the og myth happens. Also ideally, they discuss and acknowledge how co dependent hades and persephone are and try to work on and the finale ends with Persephone saying bye to hades and that she'll visit or send letters as she heads off to the mortal realm so her and her mom can make their verison of spring TOGETHER. idk. sorry for the mild rewrite. This is still flawed but the wasted potential is killing me

It also had really weird pacing

Honestly I stopped reading fairly early on because I was more interested in Persephone telling Artemis what happened and that was seeming to be dragged out. I remember saying that I felt that that her attack was going to be handled poorly after and I hate how right I was.

Oh that “Gift of Wrath” part probably pissed me off. Right next to the 10 years later BS.

at the end it just feels like they slapped a bunch of therapy terms in a sentence and said 'good enough'

I cracked up so much when I saw a person posting the thumbnail of this vid on twitter and someone qrted it with the picture of WWII soldiers reading newspapers with "Hitler is dead" at the front page😭

This story derailed the original tale about about a powerful mother and daughter bond and instead retold to be about an oversexualized wattpad protagonist getting taken advantage of by an old man :/ I mean why does Persephone ALWAYS have to be the center of attention in every frame? Her clothes always tight, skimpy, or low cut....the constant shots of her body, the demonization of "manly" feelings such as wrath and jealousy, anything negative. Persephone is above all of that. Persephone can basically do no wrong. Any time a woman gains the slightest bit of independence and agency, it is quickly added it wouldn't be possible without a man. Or she's villainized. It's sickening how this narrative pushes a sexist ideal of women. It really is no better than most manga/anime...if not worse Rachel is still battling the internalized mysoginy that was perpetuated in our middle school/wattpad era.

Am I allowed to say that the Supergiant game HADES has a better showcase of Persephone's and Hade's relationship then Lore Olympus?

Crazy how Lore Olympus was one of my first webtoons ever and as I grew older I realized how weird some things are

Thank you. I never got far into this comic. It's nice to hear news of it's ending. Rachel seems to me, like an illustrator who wants to do comics. But doesn't look up references on how to get better as she works on it. Because I'm an artist that does comic, but falls into the "I'm just chaining together illustrations with speech bubbles." That might be one reason to why the fight scenes were so stilted. Rachel could have had the gods fight with who can dress the sickest and have the best poses. 😂

watching this with no knowledge is wild because the images are in chronological order but the style, the anatomy, and persephone's appearance is different every time

I hate how much rachel was trying to make demeter bad. Girl was going all out because she wanted some shitty romeo and juliet story for hades and persephone... whats even worse is that in the original myth hades KIDNAPPED PERSEPHONE. i don't have anything against retellings but this was one i REALLY hated.

I think I stopped reading After the wedding ? as much as I love the start of this series i really Loved the build up of characters and what at first felt like a slow burn romance with Hades And Persephone’s But then I realized No They are speedrunning Everything NOW!!! Cut to the wedding !?! and all the side characters Gets forgotten. And every nice sandcastle they sat up gets knocked down immediately. I guess im just a little bitter, this actually got so popular for what was only set-up to a good story. And after all these years is like Rachel and her editors mocked us for giving a hoot about this nice sandcastle they started on!!!

I’m sure Persephone is the creators self insert 💀

Can we have more talk about how Hestia and Athena, two virgin goddesses end up being put in a fucking ship? It pisses me OFF.

A mythos detail I'd like to add is the fact that historically, Demeter and Persephone (or at the time called Despoina, it's really complicated but it's something most agree on) outdated Hades as a god. And her oldest version was described as a dark mistress whose real name was forbidden. So I think it'd be interesting for future retelling (or could've been used to make this comic better) for Persephone to be older than Hades. Just a thought.

I stopped reading after Demeter (I think?) trapped Hades in a bell jar when Persephone went to visit. I'm glad I did. I stopped liking Persephone as a character during the trial because it felt like she was trying to say what she did wasn't bad. I didn't think that made sense because she tried so hard to hide it AND she tried to help lost souls on the shore when she went to the underworld. I wish she would have come clean because unless those mortals were plotting like, world domination or mass carnage or something, she went way too far. There would have been a moment where Demeter pushed her to feign innocence as she had been before, showing the toxic side of her love and Persephone setting boundaries. They could also bring up other acts of wrath to highlight a double standard. The wrath thing made no sense because everyone feels that way sometimes and I doubt it came into being once Eris was born. That gift does not in any way excuse Persephone for doing what she did or Demeter for hiding it. I also don't like the time skip because everyone supposedly developed while we weren't looking. I would like to have seen Persephone grow and change instead of, look she's 30 now. She just became ruder and more set in the mindset that she did nothing wrong. I also hated the wrath eyes. They were cool to see when she would stand up for herself in the earlier chapters but now it just feels like her new default is jerk. The relationship with Demeter also upsets me because they could have worked through their pain together. Persephone was naive and Demeter was overbearing but they could have worked on fixing those issues in TEN YEARS. I'm sure it could have taken longer, but not even a little bit? It's like Rachel wanted a time skip but also didn't. I did initially like the relationship between Hades and Persephone but it started to feel surface level. I wanted them both to have a healthy relationship but I'm not sure thats what they ended up getting. The bonding over where they came from was supposed to strengthen their relationship but it didn't do anything in my eyes. Giving characters trauma doesn't make them good people, and while I feel awful for them both, they aren't worth rooting for. I'm not saying they should work through trauma in isolation, they could definitely do couples therapy. They could go alone with the intent of being better partners, too. They just don't make progress in a healthy way, they just feel more and more attracted to the idea of being together. I remember struggling to think of ways Hades loved Persephone from the start. I ended up thinking he just thinks she's hot and doesn't hit him so it must be better. With Minthe, I will say she deserved to lose the relationship and be talked about but not the rest of what happened. She was abusive and she needed to get a taste of her own behavior. It doesn't matter how little you think of yourself, it doesn't excuse regularly treating your partner like garbage. I didn't mind seeing her grow when she was on earth and I was glad she got away from her awful friends. The girl that was having an affair with Zeus was awful and she deserved worse than Minthe but last I saw, she had a kid with a human king and was doing just fine. Thanatos also ended up fine, too, and even if he isn't as bad as the other girl, he still deserved something. I'm disappointed in how the series ended up. Being based on myth doesn't mean you have to keep all of the main bits the same. The age gap is a huge issue people complain about so they could have made one of them older or younger. I mean, she changed the family dynamics to avoid incest and added Apollo's.. actions. I don't like media that tries to be feminist retellings by just making every female character a girl boss. The supposedly all powerful fertility goddesses literally need a man, what message is THAT sending? It could have been used to talk about generational trauma and overcoming old patterns, like how kids these days react with horror when they hear how their mothers or grandmothers were forced into marriages. It had such potential, and I remember being excited to see how the very messed up source material would be altered to today's standards. I don't doubt that Rachel faced a lot of pressure because of how popular the got, so I'm not surprised she dropped the ball in places. It will always be popular to hate on popular things, whether it's deserved or not, so I will give her props for keeping it going and ending it kind of. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. There are other, way better webtoons out there like Sweet Home, Melvina's Therapy, Ghost Teller, etc, that I definitely recommend

Its suprising how many "feminist" stories take so much autonomy away from the female protagonist. They either make them so powerful that they have no character growth, or they make them rely on men or a love interest to be a cool and strong woman. Im not against love interests in stories but this is just ridiculous. Is it just me or did the ancient greeks have better "feminist" myths than what we have now? They werent much better than us but at least their female characters in myths had more independence.

Cursed princess club mention!! Love that webtoon~ My experience with this comic is similar to yours, the trial made me really fall off the comic

WAR IS OVER

The pacing at the end drove me up the wall. Problems happened and were resolved in seconds, I didn’t like the Hera Echo relationship because they just basically told us they liked each other with minimal build up, (all my favorite creators keep doing that and it’s making me unhappy) nothing is given room to breathe and settle before the problem is resolved and we are yanked into a new situation

I remember I started reading this when it started out and was very deep in when I stopped coz it just felt like the mc was completely different from the begining in a bad way

The worst part of the end for me is that the last chapter opens on Hades’ POV. Persephone’s story told through the eyes of a man till the end

They did my girl mintie so bad😢

Romance webtoons can be good, but if you’re trying to juggle too many plotlines and other realtionships and loose sight of what was actually compelling ruins the story Edit: also I thought it was weird how they kept changing Persephones body shape, from a curvy girl to skinny to skinny with big boobs back to curvy and back to skinny with big boobs it really threw me off

Honestly this comic sounds like it had a lot of good parts, but did not mesh in a cohesive way. This could have been a comic that addresses generational trauma and how that affected everyones relationships with each other. It just sound slike she started off with a good plot thread, but drops it halfway for a different plot thread irrelevant to whats happening now.

@17:15 If she was so desperate to include Hera, she could've made all three sisters count as the fertility goddess. Since their creator was a fertility goddess and all.

As a mythology nerd, I read 2 chapters of this webtoon and instantly got the ick. I don't think Rachel knows anything about the actual greek myths

I dropped it a year ago but the weirdest twists is the fertility goddess being Hera is nonsensical

I'll forever be annoyed with their portrayal of Apollo in this series

I thought this comic was GOLD when I was a teen, a few years ago I tried re-reading bc i lost track and... Gosh it was disappointing, to say the least. I started reading Lore Rekindled some time ago, and it's honestly so refreshing to see the characters *cofPersephonecof* act accordingly. Also the pacing and storytelling are MUCH better imo... definitely give it a go if someone hasn't read it yet!

one of the things that mad me mad about the ending was that Hera and Zeus got divorced because they could never because Hera is the goddess of marriage and swore on the river styx to stay by Zeus's side

Finally this mid "romance" will be off the top spot and other, better works can shine. I'm so tired of seeing it at n.o 1 every dang week

I was also disappointed with Lore Olympus. But I don’t think Rachel is fully to blame. Numerous WEBTOON Original creators have spoken about WEBTOON’s predatory contracts like the creators of Let’s Play and Boyfriends. There’s this pressure for creators to meet insane deadlines for abysmal pay. They will pay you almost nothing while they pocket the profit off your work through physical books, marketing, merch, etc. Also WEBTOON pressures authors to change the story to what WEBTOON thinks is marketable. I think in Rachel’s case, she was trying to meet deadlines and was forced to turn the story into something that is nothing like the beginning.

This comic is what made me realize that just because someone can make pretty art, doesn't mean they can write a good story...

Blehhhh… I’m gonna go reread nevermore to cleanse myself

YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT DID 'I FORGIVE YOU' BETTER? GOOD OMENS.

Something irks me is that Lore Olympus turned Demeter into an evil controlling mother. Even if in the original myth Demeter is worried about her daughter because she was kidnapped by a god who conspired with his brother for that. And how some point out Hymn of Demeter, was most likely a story to comfort mothers who lost their daughters due to arranged marriage and how women in that time had no rights to refuse due to being treated like an object. And yeah, the hymn of Demeter was also a way to tell how the seasons were made

i havent read the story, but this sounds like a bad disney channel plot tbh

I always was creeped out by the age gap. 19-2000?! Like what does Hades really have in common with a 19 yr old sheltered girl? Also she was infantilized AND sexualized so badly and it was super uncomfortable.

Hades has a weird trend of going after women in vulnerable positions I’m not saying that him or Minthe’s were both innocent in the relationship. They both had their issues but we can’t sit here and act like their relationship wasn’t full of power and balances just like Persephone and Hades. Hades was of a higher social status. He was her boss. He was the reason she had a home food money, not to mention, dealing with racist remarks from his family that he never once defended her on , I honestly think that the slap was assassination. He basically controlled her entire life, and she was being trashed by everyone around her for being fucking pissed off about it. Plus having a shitty childhood on top of it. Don’t even get me started on Persephone and Hades. They have every single power imbalance going. They’ve got pointless age power gap. They’ve got a money power imbalance probably status power imbalance because she’s just a daughter of a queen and he is a king. I don’t know, but it’s gross. He’s weird. He’s creepy. Persephone had so much promise and I hate that it was taken away. She was a naive young girl in a new place with little friends and here he comes. I hate the age gap so much cuz it’s so pointless large I’m not saying they couldn’t have one. Make Persephone like 500 or something. Significantly older than humans but still significantly younger than most gods jeez

Thank god. It's been on the leaderboards far too long

Honestly, Persephone was a really likeable character in the first few chapters because she was portrayed as an actual person. Just a normal person trying to live her life the best she could even with bad things happen, the main one being Apollo. She just feels like such a Mary Sue in the later chapters. Like, cool, you're the queen of the underworld, that doesn't mean you can do all these things just because of your station. Also, this is just a me thing, but I just wished she didn't wear so much black. She looks amazing in everything, but I miss her light colors. (Also, I fricking love this video. I truly love the comic, but I love hearing people be actually analytical of the comic and not just praising it for the toxic views if promotes.)

I have no clue why I read it for so long, it’s like a drug, you know it’s terrible but at the same time it’s addicting

I started webtoon for Cursed Princess Club too! So sad its ending :')

Thank God this butchery is over. I’m gonna enjoy the true “modern retelling” of this myth…. Hades and Hades II.

My gf at the time introduced meto this webtoon. I mostly read it cuz she said that hades reminded her of me.

idk why but reading the comic and going 'damn finally its over' and then seeing this review feels like a fever dream of what I felt. Good video.

The only thing I know of this comic is the controversial plot of a almost-literal child making a grown man cheat on his future wife (who's supposely the villain for caring)

Rachel had a master piece in play had she actually understood what feminism means and what type of characters she was writing. Here is my take on how this story could’ve been better: - NO WOMEN VS WOMEN STORYLINE: I honestly loved how Hera was very protective of Perse and wasn’t a jealous crazy lady like her original myth. Aphrodite was also very sympathetic. This should’ve been extended to Minthe too. Minthe was insecure, even before meeting Hades we see that she struggled a lot and she had an awful friend that fed into her insecurities. She tried to find security in money and power using Hades who was equally insecure and incapable of a healthy relationship. I think instead of Minthe being an antagonist through and through, I truly believed that Persephone and her should’ve been friends. Imagine if instead we see how Minthe is treated by society from the very beginning. Maybe she is mistreated and Hades does nothing and Persephone with her rage puts the abusers in their place, comforts Minthe and later yells at Hades for not doing anything. Minthe gets to see that Perse isn’t competition and that Hades isn’t a trophy. Perhaps Perse takes her out and she is still bitchy and whatever but Perse is so sweet to her and makes her feel cherished for the first time in her life. She realizes she doesn’t need a man to be of value and decides to go solo, maybe even switches sides and is telling Perse she’s too good for him and Hades has to actually grow and gain Minthe’s approval and her, Hera, and Eros are just the Perse Protection Squad. The same with Demeter and Persephone. Perse was very sheltered and had a helicopter mom. Having Perse understand her mom’s trauma and Demeter understand how she has been pushing her daughter away by holding on too tight would’ve served as a great moment for healing, and rekindling their relationship. This way they become each others allies and protectors moreso like the original story. Also wtf was the whole thing with Hestia just being jealous of Perse?? It was so random Persephone’s trauma: ok ok Perse gets Angry and gets red eyes blablabla murder blablabla guilty… you could keep that as a B plot but this shouldve FIRST AND FOREMOST BEEN A COMING OF AGE STORY. Perse’s story should’ve been about her experiences living alone for the first time. It should’ve been about her dealing with her r*pe and hownto deal with her abuser when your roommate is his sister and it should’ve 100% culminated with her finding her own power, exposing Apollo and bringing him to justice. I really liked the subplot of Hera and Hephaestus trying to find out what happened to Perse and when they find the pictures, going to her and telling her what they discovered and deleting the pictures for her. Continue building this support group for her and make the message about how we can’t heal alone and need each other idk. Persephone and Hades: have Persephone call him out more when he does something stupid and not immediately forgive him. Hades loves Perse initially because she is clever, strategic, and confident. She keeps him on his toes and is truly an equal to him in the battle of wits. Making their relationship be more about how Perse is just “sweet, gentle, and motherly” towards him makes the age gap extra bad and the dynamic extra weird. Show Hades put a crap ton of effort not only on Persephone but all his other relationships.

Apparently getting Over with S Assault part of the Story 🗿

Thank the Lord!! It's finally over... Did Greek mythology dirty

In the actual Greek metrology Persephone and Demeter actually had a very good relationship which is weird how the author made it a bad relationship(Persephone literally wanted to be with her mother in the real story). But the thing with hades and Persephone that is actually how it was it was not the author it’s actual facts.( if you don’t trust make your own research). But I do agree it was written poorly but it is a webtoon we get what we get.

Honestly the more I learn about Ancient Greek history and society the more I dislike modern “feminist” retellings of the Hades and Persephone myth. They all seem to miss how in Anciet Greece women had no say (on average) who their husbands would be and when they married they were often separated from their family and could be sent to different cities never to see their mothers/sisters/friends again. Demeter and Persephone isn’t a story of a mother preventing true love, it’s a story of a mother and daughter getting to stay family even after the daughter’s marriage- something that wasn’t possible for many real Ancient Greek women. It was a tale to give women hope. And Hades and Persephone’s marriage likewise was faithful and gave Persephone a lot of power (becoming a respected queen) because again it was supposed to give women hope.

I stopped reading around the time skip. My faves were Hephaestus and Minthe. They felt like characters Who had an actual story and felt like they were very dimensional compared to some of the characters who become super static as the story continued.

this is how i find out both cpc and lore olympus ended 😭

It always bothered me when people in the comments HATED minute for ‘stealing hades’ LIKE WHAT?

Fuck it, I'm going back to reading that cursed princess club comic

I remember just how popular this shit was back then, my girlfriend fell in love with it but I didn't really see an appeal so I just read my Monster and Punpun, Later on in a few months, she was like “Just give me your manga volumes, I'm not in that anymore” with a frustrated look on her face and I didn't know why, but now I know lmao

I’ll say this I can’t stand how rushed the ending of Lore Olympus was and I feel like there’s still some stuff that wasn’t answered.

Love love love your commentary as someone who used to read this when I was younger. Watching people talk about all the flaws I notice is so much fun

Cursed princess club is my absolute fav webtoon, you have good taste!

I really could have done without the whole "dream jumping to find Kronos" thing. I didn't underor follow any of it. It was so uninteresting to read

I’m really hung up on the “reveal” of Apollo being Zeus’ son- like of course he is??? It’s a well-known fact that he is Zeus’ son. There’s a whole myth about his and Artemis’ birth, and how many hoops Hera made Leto jump through to give birth to them BECAUSE she was upset at her husband’s infidelity. Why would that be treated like something shocking??

Man kudos to yall getting this far in the story. I stopped after the court case LMAO. Can't believe it got so much worse after that. I'm SO disappointed they didn't continue building Minthe up after destroying her for the sake of a mary sue's comfort.

My biggest issue is how many plot points weren't actually resolved from season 1. I was really interested in the secondary characters and their struggles. I was excited to see Persephone grow up and be her own person (I felt like a time skip was going to happen without her and Hades actually being together, but I thought we would see more of Persephone and Hades growing as people and meeting each other where they were both healthy and happy without a love interest. Then they could get to know each other organically and grow). I wanted Persephone to be a young adult in Mount Olympus, repair her relationship with Artemis, see Eros be happy, have Aphrodite become more confident, etc. All of the characters genuinely were presented as not perfect (regardless of the emotional abuse, it wasn't cool for Hades to emotionally cheat), but they all had room to grow and be better people. I wanted that story. I speed-read through the romance parts in chapter 1 to get to the other story. And at some point all of that stuff I was enjoying just disappeared. But it all just got thrown out the window and we were told "oh yeah, they're happy now". I dont mind if the likable characters were shitty, but I do mind that their shittiness is brushed under the rug. Also I'm sorry, I don't have *as* big of a gripe about the age gap as other people, but putting that aside? Hades has no personality outside of his relationships. It's presented as a flaw, but the "resolution" is Persephone Relationship is his personality. I would have liked the time skip to have happened because both him and Persephone realize they need to figure themselves out, that they are romanticizing an idea of the other person, and they aren't in a place to be together right now. Giving Persephone agency rather than "they can't be together for 10 years because external reason" would make it less creepy to me because it would be recognizing how problematic it is that the two are in different seasons in their life, and deciding it's not the right time. Then when they come back and are closer in maturity (Persephone living as an autonomous adult, providing for herself and maybe having a couple relationships herself), they could fall in love on a deeper level. As it is, it's incredibly shallow. Also, Demeter can be overbearing AND right. Like that's how a lot of toxic relationships function. It isn't all insanity, there is sanity mixed in there. It's why it's so insidious. It sucks it couldn't be portrayed with nuance.

I loved Lore Olympus, it was the webtoon that got me into webtoon, but after season 2 it kinda just became one of those “how NOT to write webcomics” examples for when I start my own comics

Minthe is still my favorite character. I had a so much fun following her! I never had any beef with LO, and following it happily up until the end, but my love of the series tapered off the when minthe’s plot line wrapped up

I only know this story through video essays and I’m glad it’s ending

i’m so glad i dropped it in 2019, as a history major who liked myths it gave me the ick, i was expecting more

fucking finally it's over 😭😭 there was definitely some projection from rachel in the comic cuz goddamn

A small nitpick I wanted to add, even if it was less relevant compared to the other flaws of the series: Looking back, what makes Lore Olympus feel less mythology-accurate was how heteronormative the storytelling itself was. The author didn't really seem to explore the bisexuality of all the Greek gods that much, like maybe except for that scene where Hera and Echo kissed and presumably started dating after that. But other than that, it felt like all the gods and goddesses were pretty straight. Also, after a little more research on Apollo I realized that the version of him in the comic feels a little tame compared to the actual one. I won't info-dump too much, but from a documentary on him there were some things I heard: - He granted a woman with foresight, but she was cursed so that no one would ever believe her predictions (after he found out that she didn't love him back) - Apollo actually dated a man, this was Hyacinthus (where the flower gets its name) and Zephyrus (god of wind) killed Apollo's boyfriend because he also liked him and was jealous of their relationship - Apollo had a music contest against a mortal who claimed he was a better musician than the gods themselves. The condition was that the winner could do whatever they wanted with the loser. So Apollo strung the mortal up by the foot and skinned him alive.. (yikes) If Apollo was as unhinged in the comic as he is in the actual mythology, I bet we would have a completely different story... Point is I think a lot of the wrathful acts in the comic were mainly by Persephone, which is cool, but I think that emotion could be applied to just about the entire pantheon

This webtoon dissapointed me greatly towards the end, you can tell rachel set it up for another season or 2 but ended it either out of contractual obligation or laziness

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