She knew enough to keep it secret until the kids were found. She knew enough to collect social security knowing they were dead. Give me a break

I’m tired of the “Lori is mentally ill” defense.n. Lori knew exactly what she was doing and what she was doing.

Her statement was pure blasphemy. Disgusting and truly turned my stomach. I am so sorry your family had to hear that.

Her whole speech was what a narcissist would make. It was about how innocent she is, how misunderstood she is. She also insinuated that her purpose on this earth is far more important than her kids lives and purpose - they were just extensions of her. They were not important in her plans. It’s terrible. So much selfishness and self centeredness.

As a mental heath professional, I agree with the Uncle. If she were psychotic, she would have rambled but her statement was organized. She is a narcissistic personality disorder. They are extremely dangerous people if the have power of any kind.

She's not mentally ill - she's evil.

I literally gasped when she described her dear friend Tammy…she can say all she wants but that statement there tells everything we need to know. How many sins are on her soul…all of them. Her entire life has been spent achieving all her stupid fantasies

Lori basically admitted her guilt with her defense speech. She defended Tylee’s death. She basically said Tylee is better off in heaven than here on earth because of her painful pancreatitis. Horrible. An innocent person wouldn’t justify their daughter’s death!

Take religion out of the equation and you have a dysfunctional family that: LV's relatives keep emphasizing what a good mommy she was. Here's an outsider's view: She was married 5x; Tylie's father was never proven to be a child molester!!!!! (early LIE); She never earned much money as a hairdresser (big deal) but married huzbo #3 and #4 who were rich. Once she was sick of huzbo #4, she killed him for money. My point is, she was exhibiting sociopathic/narcissistic behavior LONG BEFORE she was in a mini-cult and murdered her 2 kids!

When Lori brought up suicide, drugs, etc referencing the deaths of her children and Tammy, I just about fell out of my chair. OK Lori, if that were the case, WHY was JJ bound, mouth taped shut and buried, and Tylee burned, dismembered, and buried? Jesus sure does know her! He knows she's a murderer! The devil knows her, too! Sounds like she sold her soul to him.

I thought her statement was absolutely disgusting.... No remorse whatsoever!

I was disgusted by what Lori said, and I don’t even know the people involved! The part that disgusted me the MOST was her saying that Tammy is her friend!!! Tammy never even met her!!! I hate when people bring in Jesus and religion into heinous crimes!!! 🙄🤮

Summer made a good tribute but summer is in denial about lorie still blaming Chad lorie was screwed up way before chad

She actually spoke on behalf of her butchered children, and actually had the audacity to say her kids are well and they told her not to worry ??? Really? Have we not read the autopsy report of the manner in which her children died? Her daughter taken apart piece by piece with a axe. Her son. His dog taken away from him. Duct tape wrapped. Burried Alive. Marks under his finger nails because he tried to fight his way to breathe!!! She is sick. She got off easy in my opinion. She doesn’t deserve to be on this planet.

Lori is so brazen. She said "Jesus knows what happened". Yeah Lori, he sure does, and he's pissed!

It’s hard to believe Lori’s hit man brother died of natural causes, and it’s hard to believe Zulema wasn’t a part of his death.

What she did, not only the murders, but after them explicitly, is just disgusting, she went back to the same city in Hawaii where they lived as a family to dance, play the guitar, have a beach side wedding all while her kids were dead by their hands, so sick

The fact that Lori "cherry picks" what she says and to who is evidence that she's manipulative. Lori is not delusional nor does she have any disorder.

Please people! Personality disorder is not a mental one. She is a narcissist histrionic. No medication can help this kind. Just cognitive therapy telling her, "You aren't all that".

I love Rex! He’s so kind, so honest, so real.

Alex would have killed Brandon given half the chance and stolen his children, too. How did Melani slide out from under responsibility in this mess?

Her talking like she has some special direct line to heaven was so upsetting. Denying that her children weren’t murdered was beyond disrespectful to the court.

Lori is NOT mentally ill, she is fully aware of what is happening. I am convinced her behaviour yesterday is a ploy she is hoping to use down the track.

Yup, disgusting , nauseating, sickening, repugnant !!! This woman is not delusional she is a criminal and all the characters that goes with it.

I think the fact that she was moving place to place probably made it difficult to connect all the dots...The people that could've rang the alarm bells were truly Melanie Beuadrox, Melanie Gibb, and Zulema Pastenes, but once the police caught on, they all ran for the hills and protected their own butts! I truly believe it was in their power to prevent this tragedy from happening...Anyway, my prayers go out to all the victims, may you some day find peace...🙏🙏💕

Lori Vallow achieved exactly what she intended to do. Her statement was so outrageous that it completed overshadowed the impact statements delivered by the other folk. Her nonsense has been broadcast over and over on many channels, giving her the publicity that she craves. She must be well satisfied with her performance.

Absolutely. I felt rage from her speech also. She’s a disgusting disrespectful soulless evil empty woman. I’m sorry anyone that was involved in what Lori did to Tammy, JJ and Tylee had to finish off this night mare case with her last words. Key being LAST!

I have no pity for Lori Vallow at all. It’s hard to imagine the hell she put her own family through along with other families connected to the victims. Her deplorable actions speaks volumes for itself along with her depths of narcissism.

She never spoke of Alex …. Her close brother through all of this, but thinks Tammy was her best friend . She has no remorse…no empathy. That’s how she functions.

And Chad's children should be ashamed of themselves, no intrest in their moms murder its pretty sick

If she were mentally ill she would be messing up in jail. If she doesn’t know right from wrong why is she behaving so well and being a model inmate as the judge stated she is? She’s a monster.

Justin your integrity during this case has been amazing. Thank you

Rex and Justin, thank you for correcting the narrative about Joe. The reports and court records speak volumes. This poor man had his life made into hell. Thank you.

She isn't mentally ill because she knew she had to lie about how the kids died. If she was really mentally I'll she would have stuck to her story.

I have a sister who is kind of like Lori. My sister didn't kill anyone that I know of, but what is noticeable is that she is never wrong, never apologizes but expects others to bow and scrape before her. My reaction now is to cut off all communications with her. I pray for her but I do not allow her to abuse me any longer.

I give everyone in that courtroom credit for not jumping up and tackling her. Her lack of Empathy and no remorse made me sick. She actually tried to gaslight the world.

Lori's sister, Summer, said she'd never heard the story of Lori "dying" in childbirth before. Lori talks like she's still sermonizing her silly friends and thinks regular people believe that nonsense. I wonder if her lawyers were cringing along with the rest of us?

Lori’s parents are nuts - sorry….

The mother is as sick as the daughter. I’ve seen those same narcissistic traits in the mom’s interviews.

I was disgusted and I’m so sorry the family had to hear it. Outside of being a narcissist and an egotistical evil person she knows exactly what she’s doing.

I feel like Lori's statement at the trial was her last podcast. She took the platform and preformed one last time. No remorse, acting above and superior of us all.

I think it’s so remarkable how Lori’s, Chads and Charles families have united during this horrific situation. They have all been through hell and have still stepped up and supported each other. It must’ve been really hard to do that.

I’m glad he said mental Illness isn’t an excuse. Personality disorder is not a mental illness as well. She’s trying to play crazy and she tried it up to the very end. Talk to the inmates who have come across her, they’ll tell you she doesn’t have a disconnect with reality. I don’t believe she ever did. I believe like the judge said, that she used the bizarre religious stuff to justify her actions.

What blow's my mind is she actually believes after everything thats happened, after everything thats been exposed, what she has to say holds value. She still think's she can manipulate and dupe people. That's how big her ego is. Lori's narcissism and ego still push her to try and convince people she is spiritually superior. I believe she actually thinks people are falling for her lies like they did before. Mind blowing!

Rex, those of us who have followed this tragedy from the beginning and have listened to interviews of family members and podcasts genuinely wish restoration and healing for all the family to the greatest extent possible. We understand that Lori is beyond hope for those purposes, but the rest can still improve relations with one another. Best wishes

Note to all: this "mental illness" used to be labeled "character disorder".... crazy my ass

Did anybody else notice that when she addressed the court she began her lies with that little girl baby voice? Also, please tell me how you can end yourself or OD then butcher yourself so you wind up in a bucket then set yourself on fire, or climb into plastic bags and wrap yourself in duct tape.

The police in Arizona totally dropped the ball and I wonder how it might have changed the outcome for Charles, Tylee, and JJ!!

Thanks Justin.. Love all your videos. Although everything she said was fantasy I am glad she did speak as her own words did her in.. You could see the Judge taking notes as she spoke and he put her in her place in the end.. So glad he came through

She is willfill...not mental . Shes a mouthpiece for darkness and is so proud about it..true willful deception.

Narcissists are masterful at playing the victim and savior at the same time. Lori isn’t mentally ill. She took measured steps to methodically isolate Tylee and JJ - to use them as pawns to achieve her plans of biblical domination. For Summer to tarnish Joe in her statement was irresponsible. Lori manipulated every situation involving her wants and needs especially to control the narrative that she’s the ultimate victim. How do we know that these bouts of pancreatitis weren’t brought on by Lori? How better to fulfill your God complex than a sick victimized child? I think it makes everyone feel better to attach mental illness to these murders, easier to understand if we frame it in such context. But this isn’t that. In fact labeling evil as an illness is an attempt to make sense of it all. But there’s nothing that’s going to make it make sense. Lori killed everyone in her way then wrapped it in the guise of religion. Until everyone stops calling these violent acts mental illness - Lori gets a pass for committing murder. Stop. It’s a disservice to everyone especially Tylee, JJ, Tammy and Charles. Give them peace.

I agree with other posts. She is a full-blown narcissist, not delusional at all. Narcissist never admit they are wrong , can be covert because they socially need everyone to get on board with their campaign whatever it is. She was always a narcissist. Narcissists go to great lengths to get their way, whatever that may be. You see this with spouses who kill their partners because they are leaving. She is not only a narcissist she is malignant, meaning once Charles died, she needed to feed off someone, and Chad was a malignant narcissist too. It's really no surprise that she killed everyone for money because Chad was trying to feed off her, like he had done for years with Tammi. Two malignant narcissists who left their feeding grounds and needed food sources to do that. Predators, really.

Ask him if he thinks Melani-niece should be charged. I'd like to hear what he has to say about that.

Lori’s speech made me nauseated 🤢 and I wanted to throw up 🤮

Lori's statement was nothing but another attempt to justify all those murders, no matter what she says, murder is murder ...Now its Lori's turn to be 'happy' and 'busy' in the prison world....😂😂😂

The family thinking that 'hurting Joseph Ryan' was acceptable is disgusting. At what point does the law not mean anything? This Cox family is shocking, and they had many years to protect everyone around Lori, it did not start with Chad. Yes it's disgusting and to think she would have said anything less cruel to her victims families, is not at all a surprise. The judge needed to hear it.

Alex was completely controlled by Lori! How that came about is a mystery. He goes & shoots at Tylees Dad to protect her, then he ends up being involved in her murder. WTH! 👺

The worst was when she referred to Tammy as her Best Friend! That was so low. The whole thing was exactly what I expected her to do and I wasn't even surprised she still has no remorse.

Personality Disorders, which both Lori and Alex had, develop in childhood. Something is very off with their parents and their upbringing.

This man has nothing to contribute ! But here he is once again . He did nothing to help Charles ! But now, speaking up benefits him !

Shes a masterful manipulator. She knew she'd be able to spew her lunacy without anyone being able to ask her any questions or contradict her. She knew she'd face cross examination had she spoken during the trial.

Summer needs to stop pushing that Joe Ryan abused Tylee complete BS

Don’t forget the attempted murder of Tammy before they successfully killed her a little while later.

Did anyone else notice that when Lori made her statement and pointed out her relatives/loved ones that she communicates with from the afterlife that her brother/co-conspiartor, Alex was not mentioned to be one of those? Hmmmm! 🤔🤔🤔 Does that mean that she doesn't see him in heaven? Freudian slip?

It has to be tortuously difficult for the family members to still be navigating this because they still expect to see a remnant of the Lori they once knew. But there isn't anything left of that Lori. She has gone completely over to the dark side - her will now is to thwart truth and torture people with her lies. She's enjoying this.

I agree. She should’ve got the death penalty as she as a mother killed her own babies.

I thought Joseph Ryan was cleared of those allegations, Lori still spouting it and so is Summer.

I feel so bad for Lori's family and everything that came along with her horrid actions. I truly hope they can find peace.

I have so much respect for these families and the dignity and goodness they keep up in the face of the evil they have encountered through Lori and Chad. Despite of all her " angel hair" Lori's face expresses now the uglyness she has within. What she said may be a sign of "mental illness"- but also some mad story she makes up to excuse her from having to admit to her evil deeds.

Justin Lum is such a great interviewer and remembers everything, it’s refreshing! Keep up the great work.

Although Summer is greatly affected by the actions of Lori, there is something about her dismissiveness, an odd haughtiness and a constant throwing shade at others who cannot defend themselves. Lori, Mel P, Janice and Summer have this odd way of expressing themselves that I find most disingenuous and haughty. You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can NOT fool all of the people all of the time. When the finger pointing stops, blaming others stops, then a true healing and new peace will result. You can’t put smoke back into a cigarette….it is futile. Lori opened Pandora’s box.

I was enraged when I heard her bring religion into it and saying all the reasons they could have died then justifying their death saying how hard their life was was so disgusting I hope she gets prison justice

Not mentally I’ll, Evil

He said, “she’s consciously aware of right & wrong”. She absolutely is! The judge said during his sentencing how well Lori has behaved in prison never having caused any problem or had any disciplinary problems. If she can follow the rules in jail she can follow the law & know MURDERING her CHILDREN is UNACCEPTABLE!!

How do the family feel towards melanie p now? Knowing she was into all this and that she had pretty much agreed to kill at least one of her own kids from text messages between her and Lori....???!! Or have they brushed that under the carpet as well until she does something horrific at some point?!?

When my BIL and nephew were murdered, the killers mother publicly apologized to our entire family. She didn't have to do it, but she was so devastated by the fact that her son could have committed such a horrendous act, she felt it was her place! It showed us her true contempt for his act! I am yet to hear this from the Coxes! It's not their place, but it would go a long way in healing for so many people. Instead they write books and start podcasts.

Rex is absolutely right, Lori will continue to stick to her belief system, that’s why she keeps smiling and saying the things she does. I’m a member of the LDS faith living in Germany and I have been following the trial and of course the sentencing this week. How anyone can distort the faith so much, especially while going to the temple, is pure evil! My heart breaks for these two beautiful children, for Tammy and for Charles. I’m sure there is more to come in the Arizona trials, until everything is said and done there will be no closure.

Rex, my heart breaks for you and your family. Lori is a narcissist so I was not shocked by her delusional speech. Much continued Healing for all affected. 🙏💙🇨🇦 Thanks Justin. 🌞

I think Rex is such a beautiful human being. I’m so glad he chose to have this conversation. Thank you Rex 🤗

Her statement is typical of narcissistic collapse. Even at the end they don't take responsibility. She looks the part. Prison eyebrows. Prison mop on her head. The Good Lord will bring peace to your family.

Disgusted is a good word.

Thank you Justin for all of your hard work, compassion and dedication.

That speech was absolutely infuriating and still to this day shows no remorse and no emotion except for herself. Personality Disorders are there since a very young age. Looking back at many things she said and did way before meeting Chad makes her personality disorder evident.

Personally - i think all that BS she spewed yesterday was taking direct digs at Kay and Larry and others by saying that she could still communicate with JJ and Tylee. Its just one more way for her to prove that she still has ultimate control. JMO

I think all of America was disgusted by her statement. I can only imagine how her victims felt. It was one shockingly disgusting sentence after another. From her quoting Scripture to calling Tammy her friend. Lori thought she would get the last word, but thankfully Judge Boyce had the last word.

I feel so sad for the uncle. It’s hard to have a family member who killed their own children.

Lori is one bizarre lady! The nerve to give that speech in the courthouse!😮

Do you think maybe she planned it to get the "last word"? Of course the judge had the last word, but i think you know what I mean.

Strange how Janice said she didn’t have contact with Lori about Charles email… but yet she gave a statement to say she spoke to jj in Octoberrrrr hhhhmmm

I'm glad you are seeing this you are right lorie does know everything she is doing I listen to Meagan Connor she is very truthfully about all lorie has done she is very honest more people should listen to her

I didn't feel anything for her because I don't take her seriously at all. I place as much value of what she says as I do the dust on the floor. I am elated that she is being held accountable. A life sentence has to be worse than the death penalty. Plus her peers are going to want to kill her.

Thank you for this interview. Thank you for openly sharing your feelings.

Absolutely disgusting statement by Lori..she knew exactly what she was doing and what she had to do to get away with it. Let’s not forget that Alex was also a serial killer and made conscious decisions about the murders and attempted murder.. this isn’t mental illness.. it’s delusional religious beliefs. Their religion gives them the belief that they can be gods.. and as active members of the LDS Church in good standing.. they were so “sane” that they didn’t even raise alarm bells within the church that they were attending daily.

I’m assuming Rex is is Megan Conner’s dad. Her lengthy interview on Hidden True Crime a few months ago and her tribute to Tylee last night are both amazing. She is clearly the healthiest member of this highly dysfunctional family.

TY uncle Rex!! 👍😜. I felt the same way!!! She enraged me also!!! It was ALL about herself!! It didn't matter justice was served!! That Judge buried her consecutively!! Also told her wat everyone else was thinking.

Remember a Narcissist knows exactly what they are doing it’s a choice they make. She was obsessed with the greed she thought she had a million dollars coming too her after Charles died. When that failed she moved on to collect from her children.

It’s interesting that the loved ones statements had to be accurate. But Lori statement could be whatever craziness she wanted to say. No rejection by the court on her statement.

She was definitely on a path to become a cult leader. Her statement to the court about the wild ideas concerning religion, the spirt world, and talking to her dead children's spirits are a glimpse into that.

Lori as stated is not mentally ill. She is completely sane lol 😹 She appears to be extremely narcissistic!! That is how she rolls☠️☠️That mindset keeps her high. My prayers 😇🙏 are with you 🩵

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Thank you Justin & Rex!! I’m so sorry for everyone in both families, but I hope the end of this chapter will bring renewed spirits, recovery, & rest to all.